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around mariupol, kovs skating passports holding them in conditions so unrealtime that ukrainian call them a ghetto. the russian military calls them filtration camps. people forced together to sleep on the floor. horrific conditions there. we've more to come on all this in a moment. in the wake of the bombshell draft opinion that could overturn roe v. wade, cnn's brand-new poll finds most americans do not support that. 66% say that they don't want to see roe overturned. but what happens if that happens? what happens? so we've got to look at what could be -- who could be prosecuted and where. coming up. plus we have lots of new developments tonight on the manhunt for the alabama corrections officer and the inmate she is accused of springing from jail. their escaped vehicle found abandoned in tennessee. they apparently tried to spray paint it.

a tow truck driver saying the suv was in the road blocking traffic and look like someone had broken down and left it there. >> we're sort of back to square one as far as the vehicle description right now. as i said we're working on trying to see if there are any stolen vehicles in that area. i'm hoping that we will get a break in that. >> i'm talking to the sheriff tonight. i want to get right to the new information coming out about how russian forces are trying to put their stamp on what remains of the city of mariupol. putting up a statue of a woman with a soviet flag in her hands and changing road signs from ukrainian to russia and as nick paton walsh reports tonight, this is only part of what is going on in russian-occupied ukraine. >> reporter: escorted by armor, curtains closed, inside are said to be some of the latest civilians to evacuate the unbridled hell of the azovstal steel plant in mariupol.

yet these russian troops escort them out, not the united nations who helped evacuate earlier in the week. ukrainian soldiers here friday said one of theirs died and six injured in an evacuation bid. and while ukraine said it began a new operation to get people out from under this, the savagery of russian bombardment at the factory, the u.n. said friday a total of 500 people had got out since their efforts began this weekend. many, many more desperate to flee. battered and unhabitable, as much of mariupol is, still ahead of monday's victory day, it appears the city's drama theater, ivrts basement packed with children when bombed by russia, killing hundreds, is now being cleared up, excavated. the satellite images first on cnn showing rubble visible in april gone in recent days. vehicles lined up and the ground around the theater cleared to

make it more presentable. it's not clear why they are tidying the scene of what many called a war crime. the warped world of what russia calls liberation was also on view here in these rare images filmed inside a filtration camp where ukrainians are held before forced to go to russia. passports taken, sleeping on the floor or in chairs, illness from the cold, all part of the experience of liberation, according to one woman whose father was there. and thin staged visit, evidence of russia's rush to assimilate what it's columnsly torn off ukraine. this is kherson, the first city captured and the man in the beard is dennis pushillan a separatist leader, suggesting kherson under russian occupation where protests are crushed will also be declared a tin pot people's republic soon.

it has the whiff of ementire. here he sits discussing transferring food from kherson to the separatist areas. water melons and tomato. he might call it trade, ukraine abfood heist. but moscow is from having its way and the costs are heavy. these images cnn confirmed were filmed in a graveyard in raizan the flags for the russian par troop division, the eliteneno and many in one city. these are the dead behind the propaganda with so much rubble in russia's tiny victories. now, don, in just the past hours, the mayor of kyiv has issued a stark warning to the residents of kyiv to say that hon the 8ing and 9th of may they should be extra vigilant and stay indoors and be wary of missile strikes. especially saying those two days the day of and the day before vladimir putin's victory parade on what they call victory day in

russia there could be escalated risk of strikes. everybody in ukraine possibly around the world wondering what exactly the kremlin head will announce on that day to either end, pro long or draw some kind of narrative together for this unprovoked and exceptionally brutal russian invasion of its neighbor, don. >> nick peyton wahl be. i want to bring in cnn retired analyst and colonel cedrick clayton. good evening to you. ukrainian officials say that russia is hoping for a grand victory maid of the victory day celebration where do you the expect fiercest fighting. >> this is the area we're going to see, the northeastern area, possibly some of the donbas region. the area basically from kharkiv through to ision where i expect to see most critical fighting. >> do you think they're capable of overtaking any of these major

cities, colonel? >> well, i think that's going to be a pretty big deal for them. if we go down south, real quick, donne, what i would say if they try to do something in kherson -- they've got that city. if they move this way they run into ukrainian opposition here which is strong. i don't think they'll get to mikolaiv, president zelenskyy's hometown. if you go to the donbas region, this is where they perhaps have a bit more of a chance. this would be the area here. perhaps in here. the area around kharkiv, i expect shelling in kharkiv and in kyiv. but i do not expect them to be able to dislodge the ukrainian forces in those areas. >> you know, we have heard reports that at least 50 civilians were evacuated from the say zov staal plant in mariupol. president zelenskyy saying he is

working on a diplomatic option to get the defenders out. is that the only chance at this point. >> i think it probably is, don. because when you look at everything here related to the adove staal plant, this is the grounds of the plant. there is no way out. the sea is blockaded from, you know, from any type of action there where they could possibly leave, unless supported by u.n. or nato-type mission or red cross type mission. that is not going to happen, i don't think. the only possibility would be to get them out, you know, with the russians consenting to it. and the only way to do that is if there is an agreement to do that. and the russians have been very on and off about those kinds of things. so i am very pessimistic about that possibility. >> listen, colonel, quite honestly this war has seemed largely stalled in the eastern region since russia withdrew from the area around kyiv. what will it take on either side

to see a significant breakthrough. >> let's take a look at this. this is, i think very interesting. you see russia controlling all the areas in march. then you start -- the beginning of april you start to see ukraine taking over all of this area right in here. so what we're looking at, don, is the possibility of a stalemate in this area right in here basically in the don egts opinion at louhansk region, these areas i think we're seeing a stalemate, world war ii type scenario. there is a possibility that they might try something by moving some of their forces. they have 2,000 or so remaining in mariupol in this area. there is a possibility of something there. but if they rain shells on kharkiv and try to do the same thing in kyiv, that is going to be more of a symbolic show than anything else because they don't have the troops to back up renewed assault on kyiv. and if any try to do kharkiv

they could have more chance of success there. but i think it's unlikely that they will be able to prevail at this point in time. >> thank you, colonel. i appreciate it. see you soon. >> you bet. >> i want to go to cnn krornt terrorism analyst and counterterror official phil mudd thanks for joining us. >> yes. >> russia is trying hard to change what the world sees on the ground in ukraine. we are seeing in mariupol where they are trying to put a stamp on the city with changing road signs to russian. but the reality is the city has been destroyed. what is the point and the purpose of this propaganda? >> well, we've seen this for hundreds of years. the point goes well beyond what you are talking about, that is signs. think about things what does a kid learn in grade school about history. the language the kid speaks where where does the kid go to high school and learn about what happened in the war? how does a kid think about ged getting ahead in government. getting ahead in college and what the his language he speaks at home and what the neighbors

say about. if you want to russify, the russians have tried to do that for centuries in ukraine. street signs are flog. you have to take decades and make people think they are not ukrainianen you have to think in terms of many years. >> why are they doing it, just for the russian people? why are they doing it? >> because they think it'sing to work. if you live in a bubble, whether arlgd bubble, russia bubble, north korea bubble if you live in a bubble among people who confirm what you think, the people in moscow are going to think for years and vladimir putin said this for years and centuries there is no ukraine. ukraine is part of the greater russian empire. therefore they should not excise aso exist as a separate entity we think as westerners that's a crazy idea. i'm telling you the psychology of that bubble confirms to people like putin that his ideas that ukraine is fallout ukraine that it's russia, he thinks it's

right and everybody is telling them the same thing. >> gotcha. russia has faced a lot of setbacks. is putin trying to frame anything he can as some kind of success in order to prevent anger back home? i understand what you said. sort of reaffirm in the mendez of russians that ukraine is not ukraine, that it's russia. but what about on in end? is is he trying to prevent any anger back home from people who may resent the war? >> i think so. i think he is also confirming to people who support him that this is succeeding, not just a military operation. this is a political and cultural operation to absorb in area, just as crimea was absorbed. i think there are a lot of people in russia underreported who think this is the right move. i also think there is something called the intel business. confirmation bias people are looking for good news. vladimir putin in a closed media society is giving good news. we are winning on victory day we

won. i wouldn't be surprised if he said we annexed the places. he is telling them we're winning and people will believe him, don. >> let's ask you about victory day. it's monday. what do you expect putin to do and does the russ i fi indication help further his aims. >> i think it does. i mean there are tactile pieces you talked about interintense fiks of missile attacks. you can show those on friendly russian tv to explain how powerful the russian military is. despite the setbacks they faced. this in my mind the pass months have been an embarrassment for russia. but as you suggest there is a broader story that says after the embarrassment of the fall of the wall, after the embarrassment, the humiliation of 1991, the disillusion not just of the ussr but the russian empire, the entire empire is back and look 2014 crimea, 2022 another step forward. this is vladimir putin as the

new czar of russia. i think it's pretty simple. >> there have been reports, phil, that russia wants to organize a referendum in kherson where zroents vote on whether to make it an independent republic we saw this done in louhansk and donetsk in 2014. is this a bogus effort to legislate myself control. >> sure, i think it is. there are people voting for him but of course they control the ballot box. the interesting things goes not not just with the ballot box or the vote but years and months ahead. let's say continue with the annexation, continue to see the tremendous will of the people in ukraine. do the americans start to say we will flou start to support an insurgency among the ukrainians in areas that the russians say they control, including, for example, bombings of government buildings? i'm looking a at what happened in afghanistan when the russian

invaded and lost and what's happening now and saying is it not --? going to transition at some point to a non-conventional war where people can vote to become part of russia but the americans and the ukrainians are going to start challenging them and saying no, with guns. >> phil mudd, always a pleasure, thank you. >> thank you. mariupol officials say vladimir putin so-called filtration centers are nothing but a way to cover up war crimes. what's going on in the camps and what's putin's aim? when i'm on my hands and knees and i'm digging through the dirt, i feel something in me, like a fire, that's just growing.g. i feel kinder, when nature is so kind to me. find more wayso grow with miracle-gro. my mental health wamuch better. my mind was in a good place. but my body was telling a different story.

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♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ russian forces reportedly taking civilians from homes around mariupol. ukrainian officials accusing them of forcing civilians into so-called filtration camps with can conditions so dire they're being compared to ghettos. an adviser to the mayor of mariupol releasing video that claims to show the conditions in one facility roughly 19 miles east of the city. and you can see dozens of people there forced to sleep crowded together on bare and dirty

floors. another part of the video highlights the unsanitary conditions showing a single working sink that everyone held there is forced to share. the adviser releasing the video said passports and other identifying infection have been kovs it indicated from the people. he alleges no medical care is provided. one person contracting tu berk low sis. the russian military claims these are for screening civilians seeking to go to ukrainian territory. joining me to discuss this cnn national security analyst and former director of national intelligence james clapper. director, good evening. thanks for joining us. so the mariupol city council claims the camps are another way russia is trying to cover up war crimes. what is putin's goal here? what's he supposedly screening for exactly? >> well, to me this is an attempt to have some temporary

field expedient gulag. in the day historically the russian army was permeated with political commisars who dealt with political issues. i don't know if this is an attempt to brain wash, propagandaize ukrainian citizens before they are shipped off to russia against their will. i really wonder just how widespread this is. because i think it would be very difficult for the russians to run these on a large scale. so this is -- you know, it's kind of standard historical russian soviet and now russian again approach to reeducating, air quotes, an adversary. >> as you've been saying this is not the first time russia has done this. you said it's out of their playbook and they've been exploiting filtration camps. what's he got out of them in the past that's making him employ

them, again these camps? >> well, that's -- i mean, putin in my mind is a religious statist. that is, his religion is the state, the great state of russia. and so this is -- it's almost knee jerk reflex to impose this sort of thing on the ukrainians. they've done it in the past. and not with any great success. but this is part of the dogma of the russian state. and so somebody in the command chain has been given a direction to try to do this. and here is an example. again, i question just how widespread tvl be. in the case of the ukrainians, it is not going to be effective. in fact if anything it's going to make the animosity, if that's

possible, even worse that the ukrainians have for the russians. >> director i have to ask you since you are here -- i mean, this is your wheelhouse. but about all this back and forth precisely over what the united states is sharing pentagon john kirby saying this today. listen to him. >> the intelligence that we provide to ukraine is legal. it's lawful. it's legitimate. and it's limited. we give them information. other partners give them information. en a oh, by the way they have terrific intelligence of their own. they corroborate all that together. and then they make the decisions they're going to make. and they take the actions they're going to take. >> so walk us through this. it feels like he is walking a fine line between saying, you know, not much intelligence -- now, much intelligence has helped ukraine and being unspecific and how it has helped. >> well, first john is exactly right if in what he said. i think the way to think about this, don, is consider -- in

this context, in a war context intelligence as another weapon system. so we give -- we give the ukrainians javelins, the kill vehicles. we give them stingers to kill aircraft. give them long-range ar it will tillery and radar to determine where the russian artillery is. so it is with intelligence. and we don't attach strings to that. you know, we don't say to the russians we're giving you this intelligence we have confidence in we think it's pretty good. but please don't use it to kill russian generals or sink russian ships. it isn't done that way. as john points out, the ukrainians are pretty capable themselves. there are others besides us helping them. and i would also point out the huge impact that commercial overhead imagery is having, which of course, the ukrainians have access to. so i think it's -- i have to say as as well, don if i might, as

an intel guy, you know, i'd just as soon not see the discussions in public. but they're out there. and having -- having it exposed, again i think the best way to think about in is intelligence a weapon system as well, just like javelins, stingers, et cetera. >> director, thank you. be well. >> thanks, don. one state looking to classify abortion as homicide. another wants neighbors to snitch on each other. the bills that could be law if roe v. wade is overturned. we'll look at that straight ahead. sell his car stat. little things like getting a real offer in two minutes really make roger happy. so does s carvana's customer advocate caitlin picking up his car r at promptly 10am. hihi, are you roger? berglund. with the honda accord? yes i am. it's right over there. will i be getting? and he loves that caitlin pays him on the spot. yep, rog. it's the little things that drive you happy. we'll drive you happy at carvana.

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our new cnn polls shows -- poll shows 66% of americans do not supreme court the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. that comes on the heels of this week's leaked draft opinion showing the court may do just that. putting power back in the hands of individual states. striking down roe could also lead to a growing number of legal fights in states. cnn's jessica snyder reports now. >> we want to outlaw apportion in the state of oklahoma. >> reporter: nearly two dozen states on the brink of banning abortion and it will happen many will immediately if the supreme court overturns it roe v. wade 13 states have trigger laws, abortion bans in effect once roe is off the books.

nine states have sitcom by laws, abortion bans once roe took in 1973. the bans go back into effect if the conservatives on the court eliminate that constitutional right to abortion. >> that very moment prosecutors around the state could begin prosecutoring doctors and i would argue potentially women as well. >> michigan's law makes no exception for rape or incest but would allow abortions to save the mother's life. but the republican running for attorney general in michigan says he would prosecutor even if abortion was performed in an effort to save the mother. >> well what about the life of the mother? okay, you have conception. i said i do not. because there is literally no medical diagnosis that says that if the mother's life is in danger abort the baby. >> that's one example of how

uncertain the enforcement of statutes could be. in wisconsin the attorney general is already saying he will refuse to prosecutor and will instead it to local district attorneys. >> it's my view that we have problems that we need -- our law enforcement to be dealing with like violent crime and drug trafficking. we don't need to shift the focus from those important empties to -- to going after people for allegedly violating a ban that nobody had understood to be enforceable for almost 50 years. >> the wide ranging prosecutorial approach reflects just how uncertain and uneven the legal landscape would be in a post-roe world. >> i think the most important and difficult question is going to be whether states can reach out of their own borders to prosecute people or whether states prosecute patients as louisiana is doing. >> louisiana passed a bill out of committee this week classifying abortions as homicides leaving the door open

for patients to be prosecuted. and then there is the question about how officials would find out about illegal abortion privacy advocates now raise the alarm that people's google severance could be used against them or even their own cell phones. alan butler leads the electronic privacy information center and points out third parties can buy data from google and perform reverse severance enabling law enforcement to track who was at an abortion clinic and when. >> if a prosecutor goes and gets a court order to get this data or they try to buy this data on the open market for example which is another thing that happens, then they would know information about the devices that were there, the i. dichl of your divorce. >> legal experts are scrambling to understand all the implications of a post-roe america. and many say rather than the vourt likely decision being the final word it could instead spur a flurry of state by state legal fights in the years ahead. don. >> jessica, thank you very much. for more let's bring in

emily baslon, "the new york times" staff writer and fellow at yale school. thank you, emily. good evening to you. you heard in jessica's piece there if roe is overturned nearly two dozen states will ban abortion between trying are laws and laws on the books. talk to us more about what a post-roe world might look like. >> i mean, let's just start by recognizing what a huge change this will be in american law and in american life. i'm not sure in our country's history we have seen a rollback like this of a constitutional right that so many people depended on that lasted for 50 years. which was then taken away. and it's such a -- it's hard to predict what will happen. it's true that prosecutors in a lot of states are facing real choices about how to exercise their discretion. states are going to enact different kinds of bans. some are not going to impose

criminal penalties. and it's going to be really important not to scare more than is necessary under the law. but some are going to try to do that. and i think that some state officials are going to try to scare women out of having abortions, try to scare providers out of doing abortions. and so we're going to have to watch carefully to see what happens and to see how much resistance there is. and i'm -- what i'm talking about is civil disobedience. >> do you think this draft could change, emily, and they may end up restricting abortion inof getting rid of it outright. >> it's completely possible. the draft is soenl as good as the paper it's printed on. the justices still have complete power to decide the case. i think there is a way in which for the conservative majority it might feel like the draft is frozen in place, because now that it's been reported that there are five justices, everybody is going to know who changed their mind if somebody

does. but it is such a dramatic change that i think there is a good reason why we all keep wondering if maybe there is some way this could be moderated, because this seems so extreme. >> so you mentioned prosecutors. it is clear that prosecutors will have a very big role if roe is overturned. do you think they're going to prosecute, women, doctors, how do you expect them to decide who does or doesn't face criminal charges? do we even know? >> well, we don't know. and it's sort of head-spinning we're considering this. remember when former president trump ran your office and he mentioned the possibility of women being prosecuted. republicans got upset with him. that was saying the quiet part out loud. they pulled away from the idea of going after patients of going after women. and so at that point the focus of anything was on preventing providers from doing abortions. so surely that will happen when

restrictions and bans go into place. and i think most providers will close up shop. and then the next question will be abortion with pills. because that is a veryive is a and effective method. there is research showing people can manage that at home. but if we're worried about surveillance and women are worried about people opening their mail or looking at their google severance, then that's opening up the possibility of criminal penalties. but only if states are really willing to go to great lengths to punish women for having abortions. >> it's really a predicament, a bizarre state to be in, you know when it comes to this issue. texas is a trigger ban state. current law encouraging people to sue someone if they expect abating with i abortion services if person from another state to assist? a borings, the question is could they face prosecution? you talked about women being afraid of, you know, google severance and opening mail. but can someone from another state face prosecution?

>> so, there are 19 states now that either ban or restrict telemedicine abortions. and so that has at this point prevented american doctors in blue states from providing abortion by pills over, you know, teleconferences and through the mail. however, last week, connecticut, which happens to be where i live, passed a bill that would protect abortion providers from being prosecuted in another state as long as they did the abortion in compliance with connecticut laws. and that is a really important form of protection. it's also a really big deal. it means that connecticut is saying to a state like texas, we are not going to extradite our doctor even if you charge them with a felony. we haven't seen that kind of battle over, you know, jurisdiction and extradition between states. maybe since the civil war. i know that sounds dramatic. but it's hard to think of a

parallel to that. again, it's just hard to know how it's going to play out. but states like connecticut really can do something to try to help abortion providers prescribe across state lines. >> thank you, emily. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. what a week at the supreme court. a bombshell draft decision, unprecedented leak, some justices being blamed. other justices defending the court. where does it all go from here? we're talking about it next. customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. if anyone objects to this mamarriage... (emu squawks) kevin, no! not today. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liliberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ the mosquitoes are just all over the quiet please. okay. wow! [light bulb breaks] hey! i said get a pro. i did get a pro. an orkin pro. [mosquits buzzing] i got you. got mosqtoes? don't call any pro, callhe orkin pro. orkin. the best in pests. get help managing your money for the life -- and years -- ahead. with fidelity income planning, we'll look at what you've saved,

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listen, obviously an unprecedented week for the supreme court after the leak of a draft majority opinion that would overturn roe v. wade. with big decisions on other major issues on the way what comes next for the court? let's discuss now cnn legal analyst preet bharara is here good evening to you. >> good evening to you. >> this week we have in

unprecedented leak, a draft decision many see as starkly political and anti-precedent. senators saying that justices misled them or outright making accusations of fraud. and investigation is happening now. and a country that, you know, is wondering what happens next. what has this week done it the court? what is going on here? give us the big picture? >> well, it's obviously an earthquake that we're being told is about to happen. the other odd thing is it's draft opinion. the chief justice john roberts echdsed it's not final. the kwort emphasized also that they will not be bullied. sam alito said that in the last day or two. we expect that's the decision. a majority decision. although we don't know that quite for certain. we had just justice sam alito -- justice clarence thomas saying in the last day, i think maybe even today, that people need to get used to accepting outcomes.

and that's -- that's a good statement as far as it goes if you're detached from history or speaking in a vacuum. but when you have an outcome that people think is tainted in some way, because there was cheating in some way or bad faith in some way, or the methodology or the arguments made in favor of the outcome are things that are unusual and perhaps even unprecedented and in in constitutional history then people have a harder team dealing with the outcome and maybe you'll put up the quote in a minnesota it's ironic coming from clarence thomas when the outcome in the country, the political outcome in the country that has been most resisted with violence and other means has been the election of 2020, which, you know, has raised a lot of controversy because clarence thomas's wife was in communication with people with respect to january 6th and has been a proponent of the big lie. so i think you're correct to say as others have been saying, that there is going to be a reduction

in the trust and faith and respect people have for the court. it's been on a slide for a while now. i think approval of the supreme court some years ago was about 60% now it's at 40% and below and it's getting worse because the other thing about outcomes, since clarence thomas is talking about it is, if you engage in an outcome that lays the foundation and opens the door for other bad outcomes as and emily were discussing a few minutes ago, that's also going to make people not want to abide by this particular outcome, the overruling of roe v. wade. the basis of the reasoning in that opinion opens the door ---en ai know some people having a debate about in intelligently and academically but the door is open if that opinion stands to the withdrawal and taking away of other rights. so it's an easy thing to say in a speech people should abide by outcomes. but it's now how it works in practice particularly when it's gone this way. >> let's talk about what clarence thomas and exactly where he is. he was speaking at a judicial conference in atlanta, pretrial, saying that government

institutions should be, quote -- shouldn't be, quote, bullied into delivering what some see as a preferred outcome and added that you can't have a free society without stable institutions. so, i mean, is the supreme court being bullied? that's -- that's quite an accusation on his part. >> i believe -- i believe that in the constitution speaking of the supreme court and constitution there is an amendment, the first one, and people are allowed to express dismay and disagreement with supreme court decisions. that's how it works. you know, the ironic thing about the -- the other ironic many ironies about it but one of the ironic things about the thomas statement about accepting outcomes and not being bullied think of the conservative reaction, the anti-abortion reaction has been to roe for 49 years. were they accepting, tolerant of it, not resorting to bullying of the court and figuring out ways through the federalist society and by cheating merrick garland out of a seat on the supreme

court, and by rushing amy coney barrett to a seat on the supreme court when the election was days away? were they accepting the outcome in roe v. wade they were not it's the height of ironies bordering on ridiculousness for that kind of statement to be made. >> cnn's own joan biskupi offering stark analysis of job roberts role saying john roberts appears suddenly ineffectual, gone is the confident jurist whose views prevailed and the man all crowing controlling of the operations at the court building. what can he do to get back in control of the court? is there anything he can do? >> you know, i don't know how much in control he has been. he has clearly projected the image of being in control. for periods of time being the potential swing vote. the problem is i think twofold. one is the country is very, very divided. people don't like their institutions as much as this

they did. don't respect them as much as they did. two things maybe three things. the court is now 6-3. and if you're a chief on a more evenly divided court i think you have more ability to push the court shape the court govern the court to the extent that's hein a possibility. and be a powerful member of the court as the chief. there is six votes on one side, even if roberts goes the other way from time to time or wants to have a milder or more nuanced opinion or reaction from the courten on abortion or anything else, he is outnumbered. i don't think the ability for him to take that control and the way some people thought he had it is really in the cards in the near future. >> pretrial, thank you so much have a good weekend. appreciate you joining me. >> you too. >> the latest on the effort to bar marjorie taylor greene from the ballot now the georgia secretary of state is weighing in. what he ruled. next. to freezeze your pain and your doubt. heat makes it last. so you'll never sit thisis one out.

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