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the judge also wants a review of five boxes tied to the president located in an off-site storage facility. otherwise, he will restore the contempt finding and apply it retro actively. news continues tonight laura coates and "cnn tonight.." >> anderson, thank you. who knew post-it notes kwoo make an appearance in the courtroom. thank you so much. i am laura coates and this is "cnn tonight." the question really is, are democrats now out of moves when comes to trying to salvage roe v. wade. for all the speeches we have seen, all the rallies we have seen since draft opinion leak. tonight, democrats seem powerless to come up with a response that would do anything to buffer the impact of a potential alito' ruling. president biden speaking a short time ago, that if the supreme court overance turns roe v. wade, other cases like same sex marriage and contraception, they
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very well could be next. he also went further ripping the republican party as, quote, petty and extreme. saying it is, quote, coward by trump. well, he is obviously angry with senate republicans. all of whom, blocked -- voted to block the women's health protec protection act this afternoon. this is the bill that would he ensure roe's protections. the president vowing, quote, we will continue to defend women's constitutional rights to make private reproductive choices as recognizes in roe v. wade. and my administration will continue to explore the measures and toll tools at our disposal to do just that. look, tonight, it is immediate knot immediate apparent what those tools and measures oob could be. a democratic-controlled congress seemed to have nowhere close to 60 votes. in fact, they didn't even get 50. and while the president does blame republican, keep in mind a member of his own party did side with gop because he believes the bill went way beyond keeping the
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status quo. it is not roe v. wade codification. it is an expansion. it wipes 500 -- 500 state laws off the books. it expands abortion. and with that, that's not where we are today. >> now, joe manchin has described himself in the past as, quote, pro-life, and proud of it. unquote. meanwhile, the senate's topl republican went further with his argument against the bill. >> legislation would allow abortions of viable babies in the ninth month, with no waiting period or informed consent, at the hands of a nonphysician, taxpaye taxpayers could be forced to pay for it and kalgt lick hospitals doob forced to perform it. >> here is what the bill actually saysisms it says there will be no prohibition on
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abortion prior to fetal viability, which is around week 23 in the trimester framework. that was already the law of the land under roe and the subs subsequent supreme court ruling. now, after that point, it says abortions can't be prohibited if a medical provider makes the call that, quote, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk of the pregnant patient's life or health. unquote. that is also althe law under ro and the language actually mirrors what many states have on the books right now. but you see, this bill was not the only oproe posele that was on the table. in fact, fod rate republicans, susan collins and lisa murkowski, well, they are pushing their open bill. this one called the repulktive choice act. now, their ledge lagz would also codify roe but much narrower terms. so the question is, what is
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left? do you stand on what you see as principle? when ultimately, the final product of getting a vote secure to clear it will result in nothing? and be clear, what we saw on the senate floor today was a bill that many predicted would actually die before the first vote was even cast. yes, it did put lawmakers on the record, that's true, that was one of the goals. but many are now asking, what is the good of the symbolic vote, it seem, if the result was going to be the same in the end? now, of course, there is pushback. it was more symbolism. it was an attempt to try to actually get the lenl insulation passed. but some think house democrats did, in fact, try a, well maybe a symbolic hail mary in the other chamber of commerce. with progressives loudly marching over to the senate. >> my decision, my body! >> my decision, my body! >> my decision, my body! >> but, you know, even with
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this, what you were seeing on the screen here, democrats in congress, they didn't appear to be on the same page. apparently, senate staffers who didn't know what the noise was about well in a post-january ev6th world, they briefly called in capitol police. a small but perhaps symbolic example of a party fighting for united, effective response on any pront. and now, democrats will have to decide if the abortions rights' battle is a winning km campaign strategy for the fall, even if roe becomes history by then. innen onthat notion on campaigning and of course what will come if had fact roe v. wade is overance turned, i am joined by jose garza, who is district attorney for travis county, texas. and all eyes have been on texas quite some time on the abortion front. he joins me now. jose garza, thank you for being here today. you know, you and i share something in common, as both being prosecutors, myself a former one, you obviously a da. and one of the big concerns if
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this were to return back to the states and, obviously, it would go back to the states but it would go on the disk of a prosecutor. and you have already been quite clear iffer you were tasked with a role trying to enforce a law like this, you wouldn't do it. you wouldn't prosecute those who would fall under that violation. tell us why. >> well, i was proud to join prosecutors across the country to stand up and make clear we will not be prosecuting women for seeking abortion services. we will not be prosecuting healthcare providers for providing those services because the number-one job of any district attorney, of any prosecutor, is to keep our community safe. and criminalizing and prosecuting women who seek abortion services would do the exact opposite. we made that pledge because we do not want to see women suffering or dying at home, too afraid to go to the doctor for
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fear of being arrested or prosecuted. um, we have a -- a glimpse into what it -- what things were like before roe and to revisit that reality would be terrifying and so i am proud to stand with prosecutors to ensure women and family wills continue to be safe. >> to seek the healthcare services they need in our community here in travis county. >> you know, attorney garza, it strikes many people as the idea of perhaps counterintuitive. that a prosecutor would engage in a kind of civil disobedience, really exercising your discretion, let's be very clear. you have discretion to prosecute cases, not prosecute cases b. you i wonder if from the perspective of one of the things and the concerns that people have had about this particular case being overturned is it would create a patchwork of different states where some would have more rights depending on geographic boundaries. it is entirely foreseeable, i
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ge, that in some areas of texas, there might be das or who are more willing to pursue these charges and perhaps a bit of a luck of a draw for which type of prosecutor one gets. when you think about this and the pragmatic approach to being able to enforce it, i know one of the concerns you shared is i to don't anyway how you prosecute without running afoul of one's privacy interests. is that one of your concerns a as well? >> absolutely. when you think about what it would take to prove these kinds of cases beyond a reasonable doubt. it would require law enforcement and prosecutors to delve into the personal health-care choices of women and families all across this country. that patchwork that you described would create ip stability all across our nation, and we know that instability is what makes us less safe.
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um i also fear greatly that it is working-class women and workin working-class families who would suffer most as a result of this kind of draconian return to pre-roe times. it would be women and families who tonight have the means to travel to jurisdictions where they could seek healthy and safe abortion services that would suffer ask that would page our community less safe. >> just so we are clear, just the weight and grafb tass of the statement you are making, along with other prosecutors really across the country who some are in areas where they are in a state where they don't have the trigger laws, even if roe v. wade were to be returned to their state, it likely would not have the same effect of what you were saying. texas of course, we knew from last summer, this very controversial ban. the mississippi davis case. but the one involving open being
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able to have a fofrm of bounty, form of civil vigilanteism on those who have paid aided and abetted an abortion. when a hasn't be the purn back for somebody in texas, like yourself, a da, elected official, by the wairks in terms of having this very clear statement about what you will not do? has there been a lot of political pushback for you! well, as i said our number one responsibility, my number one responsibility, is to keep our community stachlt safe. um, i am incredibly fortunate to -- to represent the people who live in travis county, in austin, texas. and they know our community is safer when women and families can seek the healthcare services they need. as i mentioned. >> we know we have a sense of what life was like before roe: we know more than a thousand women a year died because of unsafe abortion services.
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we know that -- that worldwide, that somewhere in the neighborhood of 23,000 women die every year because of unsafe abortion services. we know that if we push these healthcare services into the shadow, into the black market, that is where the criminal element thrives. and so i am not worried or focused on the politics or the pushback. my job is to do what keeps our community safe and not prosecuting women who seek abortion services will keep our community safe. >> jose garza, thank you for joining the programs today. very interesting to think about, particularly, in a world where we are talking about those who are soft on crime, is the allegation. we will be curious to see how this man pans out ultimately across the country. listen. biden administration is also trying to deal with the pain of inflation and an even scarier problem for families? the baby-formula supply crisis.
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take on your wild world in style. ♪ so in the wake of the leak supremed court draft opinion, which we are not is not final by john roberts, democrats vow to fight for abortion access but as expected, today's effort to codify roe v. wade has failed. so, what does that mean for their fight now? joining me now, democratic senator ckatherine cortez she actually co-sponsored bill that was in fact defeated today and run for re-election. senator, thanker you for joining tonight. you know, senator, one of the things people have been talking about is this word symbolism and the idea of was this a symbolic vote that was an exercise in
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futility. you say no. it was about actually trying to codify roe v. wade and trying to get those votes. what you do you see it tonight? >> well, i think it is the same way. listen, laura. think we all agree in this sense that -- that the individuals who voted for that legislation tonight is it is about women's rights. it is about giving women and trusting women this country to make these decisions and pro-choice decisions we know for the last 50 years, women have been living with when it comes to reproductive freedom rights. that is what he this is about. so it is really a clear distinction of who is going to stand for women's rights and stand up for women and who isn't? and that's really what is at stake right now. and i know in my race in nevada, i come from a state that in the '90s, codified roe versus wade and in that vote alone, almost two-thirds of the voters supported roe verse wade. so this is about trusting women.
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and giving -- making sure we are not taking away women's rights when it comes to their healthcare and unfortunately, we ve seen mitch mcconnell and farg far-right extreme republicans don't trust women and they want to take away their rights. >> senator, are you concerned speaking of the idea of bipartisanship, are you concerned that maybe the vote, by fact that it was 49-51, with in fact senator manchin joining with republicans, does this give some fodder and -- and -- and ammunition for the republican party to say, hey! not only did it fail, it failed an a bipartisan basis. undermining what you are saying. what is the tort to say this is not to be considered a bipartisan defeat? >> this is clearly what we have happening here. and we have seen it from mitch mcconnell who is ebeen very clear about this in our previously defeated president. this idea they need to take away women's right to choose. with a majority of this country
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when i know in my state, we have protected women's rights. so what is at stake here is electing candidates and individuals who are going to protect a woman's right to choose, and it shows that this election is so important. listen. i have an opponent who is running against me. i have no doubt, um, would take a woman -- away a woman's right to choose, would actually support mitch mcconnell's decision to pass some sort of federal legislation that would ban a woman's right to choose, and further restrict women's reproductive healthcare in this country. there is no doubt about it. so, elections matter. and at this juncture, we need to make sure we are electing candidates that respect women in this country. >> it is interesting, senator, about that noigds of senator mitch mcconnell, he did try to walk whack a little of that notion talking about a nationwide abortion ban, dhld make sense given the fact that if the alito' opinion is to bleechbed, it is trying to return to the states to have
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members electorate actually weigh in on this, and having a nationwide ban would really remove that particular premise of that opinion if it is to the to be to be believed. do you that statement of mitch mcconnell saying the quiet part out loud in a way that gives some levere to those seeking election or democrats in germ, to say hold on, he just said what he would intend to do. believe him the first time? >> well, believe him the first time and look at what's happening across the country. if -- if the supreme court's draft preponderance becomes the law, there are already 18 states that pass trigger laws that would outlaw abortion. and there is no doubt over half the states would follow and further restrict abortion in this country and that's getting ready -- those states are really following suit of the supreme court. mitch made it very clear that he would really follow -- further follow, um, and pass some sort of federal ban restricting women. i mean, i have got my colleagues
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already in the back room somewhere, are republican colleagues, looking at how to restrict abortion in this this country in the hopes the supreme court will overturn roe versus wade. that he is why it's important for people to come out and stand up for women's right to choose in this country. again, it basis gs back why don't we trust women to make this decision on their own? >> well, senator, i know you appreciate the legally issues at stake here, as well, given your background on these notions. and i do -- i know you have expressed concerns about um data privacy or how one, if it were to be overturned, how would one have their medical-health privacy and their data privacy actually maintained and preserved? is that something to consider going forward? >> well, here is a couple of things that i absolutely know. if this -- if this is overturned, we already have a texas law ha that pits neighbors against one another, and turns
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them into bounty hunters to -- to really focus on those individuals they think are violating women's rights. um, and it again -- this is an issue that will just take to the next level. think about this. everybody that has a phone can be tracked geolocation. and that information is tracked. and where i go can be tracked and actually is collected and can be used to determine where -- where you are and if you are seeking healthcare or not. i mean, it goes one step further and thooz are things that we should be thinking about because if we already have bounty-hunter laws in this country because of what texas has done and the supreme court refused to strike it down, we're going to get even further down the road here. and -- and again, at the end of the day, this is about a woman's right to choose. why are we taking away the rights of americans and individuals in this country? clearly for women when it comes to reproductive freedom rights. >> senator katherine cortez
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masto, thank you so much. >> thank you. so as we discussed, the senate vote didn't go the way democrats hoped which means that if alito's final-majority opinion is anything like the leaked draft that we saw, roe v. wade is likely to be struck down. you know, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion the minute that happens. leading to a whole patchwork of abortion laws in this country. in fact, several already have trigger bans that would criminalize abortions, possibly even for the patient. anyway, look. as a former federal prosecutor, there are so many wes that come to mind but it begins with this. how would one go about enforcing a veeliolation of that law? it is the prosecutor job to charge and prosecute those who break the law. we obviously have a burden of proof and we have to prove our ca cases beyond reasonable doubt which requires evidence.
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we have to arrest that person. and i am curious as to how will that arrest happen? anonymous tip? is it monitoring surveillance cameras at medical offices? is it word of mouth? already, there are reports of a firm selling location data of people who visited abortion clinics. and there are growing concerns that maybe even menstruation-tracking apps could have been subpoenaed to show when a pregnancy starts and stops. could that help prove someone s had an abortion? and how would prosecutors -- i am asking this seriously -- how would prosecutors obtain medical records without violating privacy laws? would those trump? will they have the probable cause to search a woman's home for medication perhaps or gynecological records or proof she was no longerer or at one time was pregnant? will it be a violation of fourth
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amendment right against reasonable searcher or seizure? do you question the nurses and reception ingts about the patient's medical history? how about her statements to her doctor or relative or maybe a spouse? would spousal privilege attach to those statements? and who would own that privilege? will i be required to have a practitioner perform a medical examination to confirm that she was pregnant, and has had some sorm of medical procedure to terminate the pregnancy. i mean, is there any way to have this crime on someone's record, so to speak, without violating medical-privacy laws in the long run? would she be required to consent to an kpangz? or are there be a fifth-amendment issue related to her rights against self-incrimination. i can tell you, having been asked if i was pregnant wifs when i have just been bloated, how would i overcome the possibility of a false accusation? and let's just say i am able to get all of the information to
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bring this charge. how will i prove that her pregnancy was not the result of a rape or incest? because if she is in a state where there are exceptions for either one of those, it is going to impact my case against her, right? do i have to have a mip kwli trial before hand? or will the burden be on her now to prove that she, in fact, buzz the victim after i have given my case in chief. and let's say, i could actually prosecute. how do i voir dire my jury? will we be inclined to strike every juror who is pro-choice or pro-life? do i ip quire as if it were a case of somebody being a victim of a crime themselves? or a police-slofl involving shooting, whether they or someplace someone they know has had an apportion? and what do i do with that answer, as a voir diring prosecutor? and what is the sentence i would be asking for is it akin to
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homicide as some skbjurisdictio under their trigger lawing? misdemeanor or manor manslaughter? and what about a prosecutor we already spoke upon to who exercised their discretion not to pursue the charge? or what if one prosecutor in the office decides to prosecute women but another declines to do so? is it, in fact, luck of the draw for the accused at that point? not exactly equal application or justice under the law. all these questions, i am wondering, does zsh do these render the law as symbolic, perhaps, as today's vote has been accused of? you see, overturning roe -- it may put the focus on the judicial branch and today's vote puts the focus squarely on the legislative branch. but as a prosecutor, i was part of the third coequal branch, the executive. and our job was to enforce. so, how are prosecutors supposed to do that? it may end up back in the states
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spin point to the fact they aren't going up as fast. prices rose by 8.3%, compared to last year, according to the latest consumer price index and that is down from the 8.5% annual increase in march. that is maybe little consolation, when everything from the cost of gas and food to used cars and a roof over your head is still way higher than a year ago. talk about how we got here, and what can be done with cnn economics commentator, catherine rampell. look, catherine, we know in part how we got here. i mean, higher demand. you have got constrained supply. shortages in price spikes but i think what people are really wanting to know about, more importantly, what can really be done about it? are biden's hands tied? can congress do more? >> that is the million-dollar question. i mean, the main tool available is the fed raising interest rates. it is the fed's job, by law, to promote maximum employment and stable prices. they have been raising interest
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rates for exactly that reason. uh, the goal is to make it a little bit more expensive to get a mortgage or a car loan or, you know, have a higher interest rate on your credit card bill, et cetera, which should tamp down demand a little bit. hopefully sot so much we goat a recession, but that is a whole separate question. now, in terms of what the president can do or congress can do, there are some limited tools available but my view is they have sort of been reluctant to use them. they are things like repealing some of the trump-era tariffs or getting our immigration, legal immigration system, more functional again. so far, they have been dragging their feet. >> why? >> i guess, they see a lot of political risk? i think, for too long, democrats kind of dismissed the economic and political threat of inflation itself. they were sort of in he he denial about all of this. they did bin nguyen dough dressing kind of thing like wan rant ranting against corporate greed or you know, things that
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sounde sou sounded nice that didn't are do very much. i think therapy worried upsetting organized labor, for example, if they repeeled some of these trump tariffs or get abused of open borders if they made the legal immigration system broken severely by trump and covid, if they made that functional again. so they haven't really pushed hard on the levers that are available, and they have -- they have instead lean on these other things that are -- that are not as effective and now they are finding themselves a little bit tardy in trying to figure out how to make a difference here. i mean, they have done some other stuff too. trying to get ports her functional but again, not making a huge difference. >> is there an ability if you don't focus on the fixes, rather than trying to assign blame or have sort of umbrella-talking points that sound good on the campaign trail but ultimately don't lead to what you are talking about in terms of results? >> i think there is a sort of fatalism moopgest democrats right now, regarding inflation and the risk it poses for them in the midterms.
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again, there is not a ton they can do so i want to be very clear about that. the president doesn't control prices. incident control gas prices. he can make some changes on the margin that can maybe help a little bit. at this point, um, even those little things that are still available to them may not kick in soon enough to make a big difference heading into the midterms. they really have to shope the feds get rates high enough, not so high with a recession that would doom them in the midterms but it is out of the democrats' hands at this point. >> you wouldn't know that of whose hands it is actually in. dagt ring rample, thank you so much. thank you. >> let's get person for a second on the infant formula shortage emergency. this could actually be a life-squhf death situation for many families. this mom just wants to feed her baby and she is not alone. we are going to talk to her, next. five professional benef. one sisimple step.
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babies. look what you are seeing on the screen right now. in eight states, do you realize that more than half the baby formula is out of stock? there are actually 28 other states that are looking at out--of stock rates between who and 40 and 50%. and the problem is there is an already tight-supply chain breaking down after recall of three brands of formula that were forced a production facility in michigan to shut down. that plant still waiting on the fda to approve them to re-open. but in the men time, mothers like my nb next guest, cary fleming, are hunting hours and paying extraordinary prices to do so just to feed their babies like her approximate month old daughter, lenny. how beautiful is this little girl? cary, i am glad you are here tonight. we should be talking about, frankly, this beautiful, young daughter of yours. but instead, you are ought outtrying to find formula just to be able to give your daughter the nutrition hee she needs.
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tell me what it's been like for you. a 3 month old. this should be the time you take a thousand pictures and having nothing but joy and you are trying to figure out how to feed here. tell me about that. >> hello, laura. first of all, thank you for having me on to share this. um, this has been one of the scariest things as a parent to encounter, not being able to get the formula that my daughter needs to survive. >> i can only imagine. i mean, i am a mother of two myself. and i remember the times and i can see emotion in your eyes and i can -- even though my children are older -- i remember the desperation of figuring out if your child was getting enough of what he or she needed. and to know that this is about not having what you even need available, how much time are you spending? and it's not just you. it is co-worker, family members, who are trying to help you get this formula. what do people need to know? in particular, members of congress and the government,
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about what is this doing to your family and families like other? >> this is a massive issue. this should be the nation's number-one priority because we're literally right at crisis mode. i am learning people are just now finding out that there is a shortage of formula. i have been dealing with this for, like, a month and a half. and i have been beg and calling all over the united states to try and get formula for my daughter. and i am not only want to be able to feed my daughter. i want the rest of these families to be able to feed their babies. >> it's pretty shocking to think about this conversation happening between you and i in the united states of america. the idea of, when any country, frankly, it should never be happening. but particularly, a country like ours where we pride ourselves on the ability to provide. and the idea of being able to have the nutritional values available.
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what has it meant to you to see what you're going through, and -- and the prices, by the way, it's you are talking hundreds of dollars for nominal amounts of formula. what does it mean this is happening in the united states of america? >> to know that this is where we're at -- that, you know, we can go without a nice, fancy dinner for a night or two. but our babies literally do not have the formula that they need to survive -- it's -- it's unbeknownst to me how this could possibly happen in our nation. why is this happen something how do we not have a back-up plan to make sure this never happens? like, what'ren a we going to do? >> cary, how much formula, if you don't mind me asking, do you have available?
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i mean, bhauf what you have in your current supply, how long could you realistically feed your daughter? >> right now, i have about three-to-four weeks. and truly, after that, i don't know what we're going to do. we are literally having to look at alternatives for my daughter, which, you know, i don't even know how her little body is going to hand those, to be hospital. >> alternatives like what? i mean, what? you are trying to portion out or dilute. we know recommendations are to dilute, to have concerns at purchasing things online at times. is this going through your head? >> of course it is. like, as any parent, i just want to be able for my baby to get the nutrition that she needs. and i have already been trying to cut back a little bit on how much formula i give her. but i am looking at other al earntives because she has severe allergies. um, possibly looking into breast
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milk banks, and looking at goat's milk alternatives. i mean, these are literally situations i am facing every sipg single day, knowing that i have a small supply and that other families out there have even less than i do. and this just can't continue. >> cary, this is the story of one mother and one beautiful, little girl. busy but as you have said, the fact this is happening anywhere and multiplying in my lead, all the parents who have these concerns as a mother, i remember so much what it was like to hear my babies cry, because they were hungry and trying to get the bottle in their mouths fast enough. i am so sorry you are dealing with this and i certainly hope those listening and watching, if this is a revelation to you right now, i hope it is not for those for those in positions of power to do something about it. cary fleming, my best to you and lenny and your family. >> thank you so much. totally unbelievable think about this. coming up, elon musk vowing to
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>> reporter: the voice is not a pilot but a passenger radioing for help. audio captured from live atc details the communications between the plane and the control tower at fort pierce in florida. >> what's your position? >> i have no idea. i have no idea. >> reporter: air traffic controller robert morgan was on break from working in the tower when his colleague said he needed to come back, fast. >> there's a passenger flying plane that's not a pilot and the pilot is incapacitated. they said we need to try to help them land a plane. >> reporter: morgan is a 20-year veteran controller with a flight instructor with 1200 flying kp experience. >> what's the situation with the pilot? >> he is incohorerent.
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he's out. >> push forward on the controls. >> reporter: controller morgan had not flown the specific type of plane so he pulled th ed up photo and talked the passenger through it step by step. >> i knew the plane was flying like any other plane. i had to keep him calm, point him to the runway and tell him how to reduce the power. >> reporter: data shows the flight's path. the first challenge, locating the flight and pointing the passenger turned pilot to the airport. >> maintain wing level and try to follow the coast north or southbound. we're trying to locate you. >> 10-4. you located me yet? >> palm beach he's telling me he's about 20 miles east of boca
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raton. just continue north bound over the beach. >> reporter: morgan's instruction paid off guiding the light to landing at palm beach. they call it a remarkable feat that left other pilots listening in stunned. >> you say the passenger landed the airplane? >> that's correct. >> oh, my god. great job. >> we got a controller that got him down, a flight instructor. >> reporter: he went to meet his student pilot. >> i feel like it's probably meant to happen. >> this story to me is so unbelievable. i remember when my own father got his private pilot license and was practicing and had the hour log. i can't imagine the idea of having that cool demeanor. the idea that not one person seem to be screaming. i can tell you how i would be on plane, by the way.
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i fought for freedom abroad. i'm not going to allow anyone to take away women's rights here at home. abortion is effectively banned in texas, and at least seven other states only have a single abortion provider. we need leaders in congress who will stand up to extremist politicians, and protect our right to choose everywhere. and i will fight for pay equity, too. i'm emily beach, and i approve this message because nothing is more important than standing up for- - [all] our rights. right now. under district attorney gascón, i prosecuted car break-ins. all repeat offenders, often
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in organized crime rings. but when chesa boudin took office, he dissolved the unit and stopped me from collaborating with the police on my cases. now home and car break-ins are on the rise because repeat offenders know they can get away with it. chesa boudin is failing to do his job. there's a better way to keep san francisco safe. recall chesa boudin now. another important story we're following tonight, the house select committee is investigating the january 6th and is still finalizing the witness list as we speak right now to figure out who will be able to testify publicly. we're learning more about this as the first hearing is less
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than a month away. it will be a broad over view of the investigation and set the stage for more hearings. the question is what was then president trump doing as the riot unfolded. the presentations will feature video clips from the day as well as the nearly 1,000 interviews the committee has conducted behind closed doors. among the witnesses whose testimony was video taped, donald trump junior, ivanka trump and jared kushner. one fact witness, so to speak, who has been deposed behind closed doors told the panel they will refuse to testify publicly if asked. among the witness expected, today aides mike pence, including former chief of staff, mark short and former general counsel greg jacob. it's unclear if the committee will ask pence to appear but people familiar with the investigation say they would be
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surprised if he testified. th thanks for watching. i'll be back. don lemon tonight, starts now. hey, don lemon. hi. we have more on that story. i hope this never happens to you. there's an incident on the plane and the pilot is incapacitated and they say, ma'am, we need you to step up to the cockpit and fly the plane. what say you, laura coates? >> probably a series of beeps and then i would do it. i wouldn't be as calm. i would like to think of how i would be in that moment but if you and i were on the plane together, we would exchange a glance. it would be expletives and we would jump to the actual job. >> okay. >> what would you do? >> i would go do it. i think i'd be calm about it. >> okay, yeah. >> let's hope that doesn't happen. the calm was i hope that never happens to you. >> i hope it never happens to anybody. if it does, can we have that person on speed dial to say i
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