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even with their support i couldn't wait to leave to prove i had to succeed in this world. i felt like i could go anywhere and lay down a foundation. you become a culmination of your experiences, and now i can't stop moving. hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and around the world. you are watching cnn "newsroom," and i am rosemary church. finland and sweden say they are ready to drop neutrality and join nato, spurred by the war in ukraine. we are live in london with details. plus, you are looking at scenes outside a basketball game
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at wisconsin and a grocery store in new york and a flee market in texas,and what should be safe spaces but instead the sites of four mass shootings over the weekend. and then kim jong-un calling in the military to help with covid. live from cnn center. this is cnn "newsroom" with rosemary church. >> good to have you with us. we begin with a seismic shift for european security as russia faces its consequences on the war in ukraine. on sunday, finland's government formerly announced it intends to join nato and then hours later
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sweden followed suit. they are widely expected to endorse the nation, and nato leaders said the approval process could move very quickly. sunday's announcement mark an historic policy change for two countries that remained neutral for decades, and it's likely to anger vladimir putin who has long-time considered nato expansion a threat to russia. finland's ambassador said russia has changed the calculous. >> the situation has changed rather profoundly, and we conclude that we have to increase our deterrence, and the next step is to join the nato. >> ukrainian tanks and artillery are moving in to reinforce the
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eastern front amid reports russians are suffering significant losses. the ukrainian military says in some areas russian units are down to 20% of their original staffing, and british intelligence says russia's losses amount to one-third of the ground forces it committed to ukraine, and russian troops are pour into the region, and the russians are accused of firing on civilian targets. the ukrainian officials said sunday the russians shot at a hospital. for more we want to bring in cnn's claire sebastian live from london. good to see you, claire. next hour sweden and finland
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will work toward an application to join the western alliance. what is the process ahead for both nations and how long will this likely take, and especially with turkey insisting on additional guarantees from nordic nations. >> once both parliaments have ratified the decision, which the swedish ruling party announced only this weekend, then the talks will take place in brussels. it seems to be clear they will move ahead. they already meet most of the criteria, and very modern military thriving democracies, for example, and then it moves to the nato members themselves, all 30 parliaments had to ratify the succession and they have to have unanimity.
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the one potential is turkey, he is accusing them of housing kurdish terror groups. having said that, the nato general secretary does not see that as a block, and nato is holding further talks with turkey, and this could move ahead. it could take up to a year for those two countries to succeed to nato, and this would double nato's land border with russia. >> thank you so much, claire sebastian, joining us there live from london. all right. joining me now from los angeles, cnn european affairs correspondent, dominic thomas. good to have you with us. the irony here is one of the
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reasons vladimir putin invaded ukraine was because he felt threatened by nato encroaching, and he will have nato right on his doorstep if finland ends up joining the western alliance, which looks likely. putin threatening retaliation. what form do you think that retaliation might take, do you think? >> rosemary, that's a really great question. it's very hard to predict what that will be, but it's clear as you just mapped out that everything putin suddenly claimed as his justification for further incursions on ukraine and it backfired, and he has people more committed, and more committed to an increased defense spending with public support behind that. as we saw with the situation in ukraine, the fact that ukraine was not a member of nato or the
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european union, it meant the western alliance set a red line that they were willing to provide equipment support, but not troops on the ground. and given the fact at this particular moment and the russians have not crossed over into eu or nato territory whether the talks of finnish and swedish succession, there's other ways in which interference could take place, from cyberattacks and retaliation on the energy policy forcing these countries to make decisions at a moment when the eu in general is struggling to go along. those are the sorts of things we will have to look at. strangely enough there has not been a specific and forceful reaction from russia. at the moment, these particular
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announcements, we are sitting and waiting to see what that might look like. >> and the ukrainian war is now into three months, and it's resulting in humiliation for putin, and significant losses for his military. how much do you worry a cornered putin with no off-ramp to save face might turn to a nuclear option as sweden and finland looks to become part of nato in the days ahead? >> for president putin, nato in large part has been a problem, and an attack on one is an attack on all, and we therefore see this as the motivating
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security and determination for finland and sweden. what is also there, of course, is article 10, which is about the open door policy, which is a nato repeatedly stated in the treaty, and it's an organization that is dynamic that will bring in countries that is committed to the euro and atlantic alliance, and that's why it has gone from 12 to 30. putin's actions have given oxygen to rejuvenate nato that shifted dramatically from the post second world war and cold war kind of identity. having said that, what we saw last week with these bilateral discussions taking place, for example, between the uk and sweden and finland to provide security support with either automatic succession or a gray
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area, it might be an incentive for putin to come to the negotiation table before more join nato, and it's uncertain in terms of how president putin will react to this as it plays out on the domestic front for him. >> yeah, that's a real concern. i want to mention, too, that turkey is very worried about finland wanting to be part of nato and said certain conditions need to be made, and they need to provide clear security guarantees and lift export bans on turkey if they want to join nato, and what is that about? how might this slow the process of membership down? >> as with all of these organizations, like the operations of the eu, and the fact that you have 30 members
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and you need unanimous votes, and it means it's a slow time-consuming, incredibly complex, diplomatic and political effort. when it comes to the reasons the turkish president is giving right now, i just don't buy those. they are distractions from the bigger issue, and that's that putin's actions have created such incredible geopolitical uncertainty, that the turkish leader, he's very important on trade relations with russia, and finds himself in a very interesting kind of geopolitical situation, a member of nato and not a member of the european union, a bridge culture between the two spheres. and there's no such thing as neutrality, and you are either
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with the russian leader or against him. he's trying to see how this will play out and work out, and paradoxically waiting to see what his reaction will be. >> always great to get your analysis. appreciate it. the potential expansion of nato comes as russian troops are facing setbacks on the battlefield. on sunday nato secretary general said the conflict is not going the way moscow planned, adding ukraine can win this war. suzanne malveaux has a look at where things stand right now. >> reporter: it almost looks like fireworks, but these explosions aren't for show. they are incendiary munitions. it's fire pour aimed at the bough sieged city of palestinian s -- mariupol.
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an aid to the mayor says up to 1,000 vehicles arrived in zaporizhzhia, which would be the largest single evacuation for mariupol since the fighting began. one man says it was a harrowing journey. >> we barely made it. there were lots of elderly people among us. it was tough. people went through hard things before, and they were nervous. the trip was devastating but it was worth it. >> meanwhile, further east, russian troops are zeroing in on the town of donetsk, where 15,000 people still live. the ukrainian military says russian forces have suffered significant losses as they try to push through the donetsk and.
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these are major set pwarbgs for the russians. >> they are pulling back from around kharkiv, and their major offensive in donbas has stalled. russia is not achieving its strategic forces. >> 600 chechen fighters are on their way to the war zone. they have played a prominent role since the war began. still to come, a community in mourning. buffalo, new york, is reeling from a racist shooting over the supermarket over the weekend. the latest on the investigation just ahead. there were other dead reshootings in the u.s. on sunday, including one at a california church. we will have that plus details of gun violence that took lives
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a day after a mass shooting in new york, and california authorities say one person is dead and four others critically wounded after a gunman opened fire in a church in laguna woods. the suspect believed to be an asian man in his 60s is in custody. the church goers took his guns and tied his legs with an extension chord before police arrived. and then a shooting at a flea market left two dead and three others are hospitalized in critical condition, and two suspects were detained and one of whom was taken to a hospital. new details are emerging about the racially-motivated shooting at a buffalo, new york supermarket. we learned the 18-year-old told authorities he was targeting the black community.
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investigators are reviewing a 180-page manifesto posted online and attributed to the suspects. in it he allegedly details how he had been radicalized online and believes white people are being replaced by others. he made a generalized threat at his high school, though that threat was not racially motivated. on tuesday, joe biden and first lady are set to travel to buffalo to visit with the victims' families. >> the city of buffalo describes itself as the city of good neighbors, and now dealing with 13 shot and ten dead in what police are calling a hate crime.
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people here can take small solace in the fact that the attacker came from outside the city, driving almost three hours to inflict these atrocities on buffalo, new york. the governor of the state speaking at a memorial service here in buffalo on sunday said in her view there's another possible contributor, social media platforms. >> i am calling out the social media platforms where this hate can be spewed and people are learning how to create guns and violence and weapons. what this dissemination, this virus called white supremacy, white supremacy and nationalism and this idea of replacement theory. you have heard of this? if you are watching fox news you are familiar with it, because they talk about it all the time. >> and the picture of the victims come into focus now, and one woman in her 80s and
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described by her family as a church lady whose husband is in a nursing home. also, a security guard who tried to stop the shooter but failed, and he was described as a worshipper and lover of god that attended the church of christ, and she was in her 70s. joe johns, cnn, buffalo, new york. and joining me now, director of 97%, a group working to reduce gun violence. thank you for being with us on this very tragic day for the united states. america, it really has a very real gun problem, doesn't it? four mass shootings in the u.s. just this weekend. ten people killed, three injured in the buffalo supermarket shooting on saturday.
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the biggest mass shooting this year. the next day, another mass shooting at a church in laguna woods, california, where one person was killed and four injured, and then another mass shooting in milwaukee and the other in houston. what is happening in this country, do you think? >> it's scary. i think what is happening here, rosemary, we have gun sales in the united states, they were huge before the pandemic and increased tremendously since the pandemic started. we have hundreds of millions of guns in this country. was talked about it, and your correspondent talked about it before, we have all these conspiracy theories and hate popping up, and the combination of maybe people that should not have a gun and all of this hatred is what we are seeing now in the rise in gun violence, and two-thirds of the death from
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guns is when they commit suicide of the guns, and most of the gun deaths in the country are suicides, and then mass shootings shootings as well, and the numbers are going up but not down. >> the buffalo shooting suspect, only 18 years old, and allegedly a white supremacists radicalized online and casing out that supermarket before his attack, targeting a predominantly black neighborhood. authorities say he was motivated by racism, and bought into racist conspiracy theories and posting that 180-page manifesto online. how should the u.s. be dealing with this type of online radicalization. what more needs to be done to take some of this material down. is that even possible? >> well, rosemary, i would say that's not my area. my area that we focus on is gun violence and what to do about gun violence, and we talk
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specifically about bringing people together. gun owners, and people that don't own a gun, and gun owners and non gun owners feel the same way about the issues. last year this person threatened to shoot up his school, right? what could have happened in buffalo, and it's called a red flag law in new york. are you familiar with that term? >> yeah. >> that means the police or the school could have petitioned the court to take away that person's gun, and they did not. that's a law that exist that people do not use enough, and gun owners favor red flag laws, and we need to use the laws in place to prevent people from doing something like this. there's a law in new york that could have helped in this case and it was not used. >> why do you think it was not used? >> great question. glad you asked. people don't know the laws are
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on the books in many states. last year there was a shooting in indiana and they had a red flag law and it was not, and now they changed the laws and made it to where more people know it exists. where i am, people don't know that some laws exists. red flag laws are favored by two-thirds of gun owners, for example, and in many cases that would be helpful. look, rosemary, we are not getting the numbers of gun deaths down to zero, but we could stop these types of mass shootings by using common sense gun laws. we need to get together, right? what we have been doing so far is not working. we need to bring people together around this issue, and that's what we are trying to do. you just named four mass shootings in the last two days. it's crazy. we need to do something. >> the polls show that most americans want to see more gun controls put in place, they want
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to see something done, and yet there refuses to be very little political will to do something about these mass shootings particularly when assault weapons are involved. that's the problem, isn't it? at this point we have reached enough is enough, but the politicians have not done so? >> yeah, and the truth is that gun owners and non gun owners previous it in to the same level, and it's true on red flag laws, and people don't realize it, and legislators don't realize it, and gun owners in boston, gun owners think 25% of gun owners favor red flag laws when the number is 66% that favor red flag laws. legislators don't believe gun owners favor these laws. we need to talk to gun owners. what we are doing so far is not working. we need to talk to people and
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bring people together around these issues. it's unbearable to be afraid to leave your house. i mean, you probably have seen from friends of yours in the urs sz -- united states who say the same thing. and the amount of hate you are talking about online, and the people that have weapons that should not, what are we going to do? >> it's a terrifying situation. something does need to be done. we have reached the point of enough is enough. thank you for talking with us. appreciate it. north korea won't say exactly how many of its citizens contracted covid-19, but kim jong-un is sending the military to help with the so-called fever cases. those details in a live report from the region. we're back in just a moment.
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welcome back, everyone. north korea is ramping up efforts to find hundreds of thousands of what it calls fever cases after reporting the first outbreak of covid-19. kim jong-un has ordered the military to help stabilize the country's medicine supply. state media said he strongly criticized the cabinet and public health sector for its handling of the crisis. what more are you learning about this, blake? >> well, rosemary, just a few days after north korea identified or admitted it's first ever case of covid-19, fever cases in north korea are surging with 400,000 cases
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reported just this weekend. the outbreak started in late april and since reported in more than 560,000 people are still being isolated with symptoms, and 50 people have died, although it's unclear if those deaths or fever cases were caused by covid-19, and the reason for that uncertainty and the reason why we are calling these cases fever cases instead of covid cases is because the level of testing is extremely low in north korea, and the vast majority of those people showing symptoms in all likelihood have not been tested. according to the world health organization through the end of march, only 64,000 people in north korea had been tested out of a population of more than 25 million, making matters worse, experts say the country lacks significant health care infrastructure and there's also the fact that almost none of the country's 25 million people had
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been vaccinated. kim jong-un has been wearing a mask and has declared a national emergency and ordered all cities to lockdown. >> keeping a close eye on that, and joining us from his vantage point in tokyo. appreciate it. taiwan is emerging from the covid pandemic and returning to a more normal every-day life, after learning what not to do after seeing china's lockdown policies.
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starting on monday super markets and pharmacies and other businesses are set to reopen. and then a stark contrast with taiwan's covid policies. >> zero covid chaos captured on chinese social media. shanghai factory workers in a frenzy, and friction fueled likely by long weekends of lockdowns, and panic and fear, on a day that shanghai reported less than 300 cases, and on the same day in taiwan more than 36,000 cases, 140 times more than shanghai that has a bigger population. here in taiwan, the mood is calm and not chaotic. and the island emerging from almost two years from pandemic seclusion. taiwan's former vice president, a leading epidemiologist says the goal is no longer zero
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infections, but effectively controlling the virus. >> the policy, it's very difficult and a mission impossible. >> what is possible, he says, maximize hospital capacity, and boost vaccination rates, and most adults in taiwan have two doses. only about half of chinese's elderly are protected by the vaccines, and homegrown vaccines are often less effective. and hospitalizations and deaths in taiwan, relatively low. businesses bouncing back. >> people have to live normally, and go to school normally and work normally when we are ready to live with the virus. >> even as taiwan's cases hit record highs, no mainland-style
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lockdowns, and diners fill the table here at this restaurant. >> i think we need to overcome our fares, and tread carefully step by step. >> not everybody is ready to relax the rules, especially parents of young children still not eligible for vaccination in taiwan. >> translator: i feel the government has not considered children in the move towards living with the virus. >> translator: if we still have harsh restrictions like the mainland after vaccination, it will be painful and no point in getting the vaccines. my brother is in shanghai and it's tough for him. he has been under quarantine for 45 days without being able to leave his home. >> tough times in china described as cruel. the island's leader says life will go on, even if it says learning to live with the virus.
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>> taiwan's reopening further isolates china as essentially the last major economy in the world to cling to the approach the vast majority of experts say is not possible, and the omicron variant is too contagious, and i can tell you living here versus living in zero hong kong, they are positive with covid and there's not a sense of fear and people are staying home and riding it out and going on with their lives. >> what a contrast. for our international viewers, "world sport" is up next. everybody here and in cananada, will be back with momore news after a short break. stay with us. what's on the horizon?? the answers lie beyond the roads we know. we recognize that energy demand is growing, and the world needs lower carbon solutions to keep up.
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call 1-800-miracle right now and experience a better life. welcome back, everyone. u.s. democratic senator, kris van hallam, announced he suffered a minor stroke over the weekend. in a statement the senator said there are no long-term affects or damage as a result of the stroke but he will stay in the hospital under observation for the next few days and plans to go back to work later this week. senator van holland is not the
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only senator to suffer a stroke lately, but fetterman also suffered a stroke. >> hey, everybody, as you can see we hit a little bump on the campaign trail. >> yeah, it was on friday. i was not feeling very well so i decided i needed to -- >> i made you get checked out. >> yeah. >> because i was right, as always. >> here's more from cnn's, jessica dean. >> lieutenant government john fetterman suffered a stroke that was caused by a blood clot that came from his heart, he says, being out of rhythm for too long. he's now in a lancaster hospital recovering. the good news is doctors say
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he's expected to make a complete and full recovery and did not experience any sort of cognitive damage. they were able to get in there and remove the clot and reverse the stroke, but we are very close to primary day in pennsylvania, and that's set for tuesday and he had to cancel events on friday, saturday and sunday. as i mentioned, he's still in the hospital. it's unknown at this point when he will be able to get back on the trial, and in a video on twitter he talked about wanting to get back on the trail soon, and his wife saying under doctor's orders and her orders, he needs to take a rest for a little bit and the question is how long that rest will be, and he was supposed to host a night on tuesday, and that's unclear, and the last 48 hours critical in a run-up to an election, and
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that's when we see candidates trying to get as many corners of the state as possible to see as many voters as possible, as they head to the polls in the next couple of days. fetterman not able to do that. what the ramifications will be politically, we don't know, and he is considered to be the front runner but we will have to see how it plays out on tuesday. he said he is recovering and trying to get some rest. we will have to wait and see when that will be. jessica dean, cnn, washington. a former fda commissioner says a shortage of baby formula may have been less intense if one of the country's producers had more oversight. one doctor told cbs if known issues had been resolved
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earlier, a shortage may not have happened. >> these were consistent problems handled poorly, and certainly by the poorly, and there were known problems with that facility going back many years or findings on different inspections, and there was serious allegations that there was data falsification and information withheld from inspectors. these should have prompted more aggressive action earlier. >> abbott is also drawing the ire of u.s. transportation secretary, buttigieg. >> this is a capitalists country. the government does not make baby formula, nor should it, and companies make formula, and one of the companies that has 40% market share messed up and is
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unable to confirm that appear major plant is free and safe from contamination, and the most important thing to do right now, of courses to get that plant in michigan up and running safely, and that's the work going on between the company and the fda. it has to be safe and it has to be up and running as soon as possible. >> he went on to say that the u.s. formula industry is a series of monopolies and the government should only be responsible for making sure the product is safe. vaccine misinformation got people killed in the united states. that's one takeaway from a new study that found better vaccination rates could have prevented half of covid deaths since the vaccines became available. it concluded that 319,000 lives could have been saved between january 2021 and april 2022 if peak vaccination rates were sustained across the country.
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d dr. anthony fauci says the country needs to stay alert and the pandemic is not over yet. >> we are starting to see surges of cases, so protection against the infection, and we know what the highly transmissible variant, we have to make sure we don't make a wrong decision that we are finished with covid-19. we are not. >> a cardiologist from scripts research joins me from california. >> good to be with you. >> the u.s. is approaching 1 million covid deaths, and as we just heard from dr. anthony fauci, covid is not over yet
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with surges in many cases in many u.s. states due to waning immunity, and dr. fauci says that's why more americans need to be vaccinated and boostered, and how do you agrievchieve than there's information out there from stopping them from getting the critical boosters? >> critical is the word. we as a country did not make this message so clear last fall when the booster campaign started. for people who have not had a booster and are just relying on their infection immunity, it will do nothing to protect them from their omicron variants we face today. we have to make a much stronger effort to convince the people that the boosters are essential.
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of course, as dr. fauci pointed out, too, even the primary vaccination were only at two-thirds of americans, and we should be far greater, and especially in the people who are of the advanced age. >> yeah, and that's the problem, and then trying to convince people that they need to do this. and of course, these surge in covid cases, amid rising hospitalizations, and is it inevitable mortality will rise if people don't get their shots? >> as you mentioned, 1 million deaths, and to think a few hundred thousand of these were preventible if we had the proper vaccinations and boosters in the country. we will see a rise in deaths because right now we are seeing a 20% increase in hospitalizations, and nothing what we have seen with the omicron variant, and we may get
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to 40 or 50,000 hospitalizations before the current ba.2 is finished with us. that doesn't mean that the pandemic is finished even at that point. >> doctor, the u.s. is now saying more than 100,000 reported cases per day, and many people are taking the home tests and not getting counted in that tally. could those infections be significantly higher, do you think? >> not only significant. i would say we are at least 500,000 new cases a day, because of what you said, rosemary. that means that we are at the biggest wave of the whole pandemic in terms of spread, infectiousness, accept for the omicron wave in january. if you talk to people in communities throughout the
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country, the transmission rates are exceptionally high, and that's why we are on the rise with hospitalizations, too. >> of course the problem is, certainly from where i live, you see that people are much more relaxed and people are not wearing their masks anymore, and people are not as worried and don't feel as threatened biy omicron and the sub variants, and so how do you convince people we are at a dangerous stage again? >> right. i heard about the capitulation, and we have the notion by the cdc and the government that we need to live with covid, and that's the case in many countries around the world, and in fact we don't have to live with covid like we are now because it's inducing a lot of harm. instead of the idea that we should, as you say, stop with all the mitigation measures, they do have an affect and help us, but also invest in the
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things that we need to come up with vaccines that are far more protective, and nasal vaccines that block transmission, and much better pills and a whole of medications relying on just the current paxlovid. we could do so much more to put the pandemic behind us, but we are not doing that. >> very unfortunate, isn't it? always a pleasure to talk to you and get your perspective on these matters. appreciate it. stars and fans alike came together on sunday to celebrate the life of music country icon, naomi judd. some of the biggest names performed at the tribute to her.
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