watching it here as well as representatives from the state parties have been watching the process here. but we're very close but not quite there yet, wolf. >> athena, thank you very much and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room," erin burnett, "outfront," starts right now. "outfront" next, ukrainian commander says troops are making major gains against russia tonight as the united states gets even more involved in the war. plus, the head of the fda slammed over the baby formula shortage, democratic lawmaker calling the response a, quote, d dereliction of duty, i speak to a mother struggling to find baby formula for her child, and investigating a new case of monkey pox, cases of the serious virus popping up across the

globe so what is monkey pox and how is it spreading? let's go "outfront." "outfront" tonight, the u.s. opening the floodgates for ukraine. a massive $40 billion aid package about to be signed into law, so that brings the spending from the biden administration and the united states to $54 billion in just 60 days to aid ukraine. it sounds enormous and i want to be clear, it is enormous, in fact it is more than the united states spent on the entire foreign aid budget in 2019 in 60 days to ukraine. it is important to note, this is a bipartisan thing, the ukraine aid bill, and once the bill passes will be flow to seoul so president biden can sign it in his trip to asia and tonight, president biden pledging more aid. so the money coming at a turning point in the three-month war, ukraine's top military commander saying tonight, and i quote, tonight we are not just defending ourselves, we have conducted a series of successful counter attacks. so russia controls mariupol and

the war is waging on, shelling killed 12 people today and more in eastern ukraine, apartment buildings hit and burnt out, and part of a city where people have been living in underground bunkers for weeks. we've seen some of these across ukraine. no power, no light, little food, little water, and to the south, in mariupol, there is still a message of defiance from one commander who is still holed up in that steel plant. >> translator: an operation is underway, i will not give any details. i am grateful to the whole world and ukraine for support. >> it is believed there are still hundreds of ukrainian fighters in the asovstal steel plant which may surprise you because you heard of a lot leaving, in fact nearly thousand left in convoys organized by russia. we have reporters in ukraine tonight, i want to start with sam kiley, live in kramatorsk

ukraine, what is the latest tonight? >> reporter: i think in the last 48 hours or more, perhaps, there's been intensification, erin, of the fighting here as the russians continue to try to punch through the ukrainian defensive lines, just as you were talking to me there, i heard the distant thump of some kind of artillery, going around, difficult to tell, but a completely normal aspect of life here at the moment and more normal, more horrific but normal is what's been happening in donetsk where apartment buildings and hospital have been recently bombed or attacked with artillery and rockets. and at the same time, over the last 48 hours, have been this concerned thrust coming in from the east, due east, the territory, since 2014, held by russian-backed rebels. they've been trying to push through, hitting very hard against the town of bacmut, now

that is a very important regional administrative center, it is as a military, very busy there, obviously civilian administration there, there are important hospitals treating people. coming from donetsk and that town itself. this morning, there were at least three air strikes. a number of apartment buildings were killed, at least three people reportedly killed in that town and just an endless rolling thunder of military exchanges in both directions and rocket launches as the russians are trying to make that breakthrough. >> sam kiley, thank you very much on the frontlines there in ukraine and in a courtroom in ukraine today, widow confronts the russian soldier who killed her husband, first war crime trial and the war gets underway, melissa bell is "outfront" from kyiv. >> reporter: from the start, russia's invasion of ukraine, stalled. like here, on february 28th.

these pictures shared exclusively with cnn by ukrainian armed forces show a column of russia's fourth tank division off to had hit a landmine and soldiers had fled. one of those soldiers on thursday facing both justice and grief. >> translator: why did you come here? did you come to defend us? from who? did you defend me from my husband you killed? >> translator: achman gave us an order to move in as a column. i didn't know what would follow. >> accused of killing katarina's husband, an unarmed civilian in the village. cnn has located this video where his unit hit the mine as being just two miles from shpakivka,

the ukrainian armed forces then say the russian soldiers fled and killed local civilians. in court, the prosecutor says shichimarin and four other soldiers fled the scene in a stolen car and shichimarin was given an order. >> translator: it was very stressful, i was under great stress, he shouted at me. >> a version of events corroborated by another russian soldier who was traveling in the car that day. >> translator: the war officer ordered valim to shoot with the justification of the man could be reporting on us. vadim refused to do it and the man ordered him to do it. >> a glimpse into the chaos and fear of the early days of the war on the russian side as well. >> translator: can you please tell me, what did you feel when you killed my husband? >> translator: shame. >> translator: do you repent? >> translator: yes. i acknowledge my fault.

i understand that you will not be able to forgive me, but i am sorry. >> shelapova said she wanted shichimarin in prison for life. the only alternative, she said, an exchange for the asovstal prisoners of war now in russian hands. >> reporter: erin, a reminder there that this extraordinary war crimes trial getting underway even before the war comes to a conclusion is now taking place in the context of these 1,700 asovstal evacuees now being in the hands of russia as prisoners of war and that extraordinary development here tonight that you mentioned that video released by one of the asovstal commanders saying that he is inside the steel plants with his command, not giving much more detail but vowing to fight on. we hasn't known how many were left, hasn't known what their state was, now we know perhaps one or several of them still in there intending to fight, erin. >> melissa, thank you very much. very hard to watch that trial.

really trajigic on all sides. hard not to be moved by her or him. up now, retired general james spider marks and general, much to talk about, we talked at the top of the program, united states has spent $54 billion committed in 60 days which is more than the entire foreign aid budget for the year 2019, amount of money and aid and weapons absolutely stunning and president biden now promising more, specifically, 1,815 millimeter howitzers, 18 tactical vehicles for them, this is just another specific to-do list. show us on the map where that sort of ordinance can make a difference. >> yeah, erin, it's really wonderful reporting and it really shows you how nato, led by the united states, is really cov covering down to make sure this continues that there's a sustainment of this fight. clearly the handoff takes place in places like this but where

those systems will be most effective will be with ukrainian units that are right here in contact with russian units. what the artillery provides you with, and these are smart weapon systems, not dumb rockets. these are going exactly where the ukrainians want them to go. you -- the ukrainians will be able to get into the rear area of the russian units. when they do that, the ukrainians now set the tone of the engagement. the fight along these lines where ukrainian units are engaged with russian units is absolutely critical. that's the line of contact. that's where troops are in contact. you hold them there and then you put your artillery in the rear and then the russians cannot continue to eschalon forces forward so the forces got to get from here up to these loekzs to continue to reach deeply into the russian rear. >> right, and of course, ukraine, all of that crucially depends on rail which the russians periodically missile and ukrainians then rebuild as

quickly as they can. it's unclear tonight what's happening at that besieged steel plant in mariupol, you know, melissa laying out the confusion because it appeared ukraine surrenders, thousand fighters taken from the plant from russia, now, though, it seems a few hundred still inside and the comm commanders we heard one saying the fight continues. so general, what does russia do now? is this, you know, got nearly a thousand of them out but a few hundred still there fighting. how big a thorn in their side is this and why is it so important? >> sadly, i don't think this is a thorn in their side. i mean this is a blow-up of where the steel plant is located. you can see that it's got russian forces completely surrounding. let me blow it up here. this is where mariupol is. russia, really, if they're at the point where they think or estimate are 200 plus remaining ukrainian soldiers, god love

them, god bless them, these are incredibly, a high will to resist. this is amazing morale, but there's little they can accomplish other than to remain in place and the russians don't have to do much. all they have to do is surround the place like they've done and they just need to be able to wait through at the various exits and at some point raise their hands and say it's time to come out. what the ukrainians can do, though, erin, is if they had forces here, would have to -- that's what makes it so difficult. they have to have a break-through here and some type of link up with these folks if they can bust out. that's incredibly hard to do. >> not anywhere near where they are now. all right, general, thank you so much for your time. and next, the baby formula shortage now in its third month. if three months is an turnt when you're talking about a baby on baby formula and i'll speak to mother whose story we've been following, how much she needs to keep her baby alive. plus the january 6th committee now zeroing in on a

capitol tour a member of congress gave one day before the insurrection. and covid, breaking through north korea's defenses spreading through wildfire in unprotected population, infections and deaths sky rocketing in a did i l , dilapidates hehealthcare syst that could be on the verge of collapse.

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before we're back to normal. >> now, califf says that abbott, the company at the central of the baby formula recall at the heart of the shortage will have the company plant back up but after that, it's few weeks minimum before we get back to more on shore shelves so we're looking at a couple months more and shelves were short because of the supply chain issues to begin with, but people get upset when you're blaming, this is a problem, it's completely unacceptable that you're taking this long, a major supplier go offline three months and ago and now three month levels are we actually having a freak out at the government level, that is bogus and unacceptable, it impacts a massive number of families. 70% using baby formula until babies are 6 months old, and now, brooklyn daughter depends on specific formula because she

has a rare genetic disease that requires her to be fed by tube and we've been following her through this crisis, you may have seen her speak with adrian through the special report and anna, i really appreciate your time. gosh, my heart goes out to you. i know brooklyn was in the hospital recently, had to be put on life support and you shared some photos with us that are difficult to look at but we're sharing them because you wanted to show them to people so you can understand what this is like. how concerned are you she could end up back in the hospital if this shortage of what she needs to live continues? >> honestly, i'm extremely terrified because the hospital is a last place an immunocompromised child needs to be. >> so what is her situation now? >> so my daughter has a rare genetic disease called spinal

muscular atrophy type 1 and she can only tolerate one formula, it's an amino acid-based formula and because of her disease, her body cannot break down animal fats and proteins so she has to have this amino acid-based formula. right now i'm having to scour the internet to get this formula for her so we do not end up back in the hospital. if i'm unable to keep her formula in stock, and she goes through one can every two days so if i'm unable to keep, you know, her nutrition going, she's going to have to be hospitalized for tpn iv nutrition. >> so this must consume your life everyday, what is it like everyday trying to go online to find formula so you can get her another couple of days? >> it is so exhausting. and not to mention, no matter where i look, the formula is price-gouged so badly. just to put it into perspective,

on the manufacturer's website, a case of four cans, which is an eight day supply for my daughter normally costs $168. right now, i've been having to pay upwards of $300 every eight days and have family members help and, you know, have had some help from outside sources but it's ridiculous that it's costing that much. especially for my daughter who has a prescription for this formula and we're unable to obtain the prescription. >> wand, because of where you'r sourcing it from? >> so normally, she would get her formula shipped through her dne company and the dme company is unable to get the formula in stock. they haven't been able to send her formula prescription in three months now which has left us scrambling and looking, you know, franticly for the formula just to keep her home and if i find it, you know, like for instance, a few days ago i found a shipment at a wallgreens

local, medicaid denied coverage of the formula at the walgreens because it's technically not a drug and it's over the counter so they wouldn't cover it unless it's coming from the dme company leaving us to pay out of pocket for 13 cans which was, you know, $600. so thankfully we had -- >> and obviously, this is unacceptable and not sustainable and i hope that gets respectified, going back when this is resolved. obviously -- but the fda commissioner says it's going to be a few weeks but obviously it's already been three months, now it's this urgent thing and saying it's going to be a few weeks if it is moves urgently. is this good enough? >> no, the second the babies were without formula should have been a national crisis, because two weeks, three weeks, to them is nothing but to us, a family like me who is already medically, have a medically complex child and i'm already financially strained, that's,

you know, a couple thousand dollars for formula that i can't afford right now, during a pandemic. >> angela, thank you very much for explaining all of this. i hope people hear you and hear, you know, as you use the word frantic, that you're franticly searching and what you're going through financially, it is unacceptable and i thank you for sharing this and sharing those images of your daughter, i know it's hard to do. my thoughts are with you. >> thank you, i appreciate that. next, all eyes on the crucial race putting trump against mike pence and we're just days away from the vote. and officials in new york city investigating possible case of monkey pox, what do we know about this virus spreading across the globe you're now seeing so many headlines about? nation's top epidemimiologist i "outfront."

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barr tentatively agrees to give testimony to the january 6th committee, that as the committee is investigate a capitol tour a republican congressman gave the day before the deadly insurrection, they believe this could be significant, telling, laudermilk was one of the house republicans that voted to overturn the election on january 26th, so tell me about mr. laudermill, what do we know about this tour. >> reporter: at the very least, suspicious, and want to know who laudermilt was giving entrance on the complex day before the insurrection, this comes as mikey sheryl of new jersey in the days before january 6th mentioned in a town hall, republican members were giving what they called reconnaissance tours, she never gave evidence or named named so this is the first time we had a congressman associated with any type of tour

that took place the day before the insurrection that could come into question or at least be a part of the january 6th investigation. now laudermilt pushing back, saying a constituent meeting with member of congress in the mission is not a suspicious group or reconnaissance tour. family never entered the capitol building. they're pushing a false narrative that republicans conducted reconnaissance tours on january 5th and republicans have been very critical of this accusation from the very beginning. done an investigation of their own, where they claim they poured through thousands of hours of video tape that did not demonstrate any kind of suspicious activity so this is essentially become the word of the committee against the word of laudermilt and keep in mind, laudermilt was somebody who kept in touch with mark meadows on january 6th, sent a member of

text messages on the chaos happening here on capitol hill, doesn't look like he wants to cooperate with this investigation but certainly someone the committee now focused on. >> what about bill barr? obviously, subsequent to january 6th, you know, has written a book, done a lot more media, talked to the former president, who do investigators think he will be able to shed light on if he testifies? >> the big question is just what did bill barr know about the mood in the white house in the period of time after the election leading up to january 6th? barr of course left the administration after january 6th but made it clear to officials in the attorney general's office and the president himself he just did not see enough evidence to think there was enough fraud to overturn the election results so the mood, just the activity that was happening in the white house at that particular time is of great interest to the committee and could be part of their investigation if he does

come forward and speak. >> all right, ryan, thank you very much reporting from capitol hill tonight. also tonight, all eyes on the next big election, just days away. these primaries becoming so crucial, this one literally, fits election denier backed by donald trump, at the core of it, against incumbent backed by pence and george w. bush who signed off on the entire results in georgia, that's bryan kemp fending off challenge by david pu purdue the two could not be further apart when it comes to the 2020 election. >> the election in 2020 was stolen, bryan kemp will allow democrats to steal the election. >> what i have done is followed the law and constitution, what david is doing is trying to go back and litigate an election that he lost. >> like i said, cannot be more stark. so if you view how a republican sees the 2020 election as the

litmus test, georgia is, and we're just hours, days away from that primary. jones, former special adviser to president obama, and commentator here and kasic former governor of ohio, as we show the latest polls, kemp now running away with this, the margin here is 32 points in favor of points over purdue, that's the latest poll from fox news. is, what do you make of that? and obviously, as goes georgia doesn't necessarily go the overall country but what does this say about that litmus test? >> i think that's very significant and a real blow to donald trump if in fact the margins hold up for the incumbent governor and as i've thought about these things, erin, what i've concluded is if you have an incumbent who people know and people essentially like, it doesn't matter what donald trump does. here in ohio, donald trump never

waded into that, he couldn't win that, and in georgia, people like kemp. they think he's done a good job and regardless of what trump says they don't really care and david purdue is trying to do whatever he can to sound like trump. now in a race where there's a scramble like the senate race in ohio or what's been happening in pennsylvania, when there's a scramble, then i think trump has a larger impact than he does whenever we're talking about an incumbent who is known or whom people have an opinion. so if kemp wins this, it's a big blow to trump, no question about that. >> then it also is not necessarily what the democrats want in terms of what they will be an easy to win race, right, if you get an election denier, that's a lot better for the democrats because they think they can get more people in the senate so whoever wins this is going to be up against stacy abrams so should democrats be concerned if kemp incumbent,

popular guys, runs away with this thing. >> i think stacy abrams is a strong candidate, would rather run against pure dodue, but rea, if anybody can stand up against the red wave it's stacy abrams and remember this is a rematch so a chance for her to go back and beat kemp, it's almost a motivating force. >> yeah, okay, so governor kasic, kemp has gotten big endorsements from the republican establishment, bush, former vice-president pence, chris christi, to be clear, he's backed by trump, so what happens at this point, if purdue loses against kemp does this damage trump's endorsement at all? >> well i think it's pretty clear as i said earlier, erin.

if you are incumbent and people know you and quite like and are doing a decent job, it's very hard for donald trump to come in and disrupt. if you have like five or six people in the race and nobody knows who they are like we saw across the country, then i think an endorsement by trump or even endorsement by a republican party can make a difference. but, you know, i think this holds out. now let's just assume that in places where there's a scramble and one of trump's candidates wins okay, like in pennsylvania, the race for governor, i think it's really an open question as to whether that person can win in the fall. so, you know, it's, you have mixed results but i think what i've just laid out is a formula that can allow us to decipher trump's influence. make no mistake about it, still has a lot of influence, but, you know, it's also based on the fact that the republican party

has become more populist, it's different, and we may be in a realignment of the parties, both republicans and democrats, if we're in the middle of it we'll have to wait to see where it comes out. >> and also van, not as simple in georgia as i laid out, raffensperger remember on the other end of the phone any president trump he was the one who took the incoming on this. kemp signed off but raffensperger -- that was a contesting election primary with the trump-backed candidate. >> i think that was actually more important because if an election official in this country does the right thing, stands up to the pressure, and then is hounded out of office, that tells every other election official in the country, not just in georgia, if you do the right thing, you may get thrown out of here. so i think raffensperger, if he gets knocked out, that is a very troubling sign for american democracy. >> and that is a crucial one and, you know, it's amazing where to point here and as you

say -- >> but that's a race, but erin, i have to say, that's a race, you look individually at it. this guy, he's pretty well-known in georgia, popular radio show and has a name to himself. people don't know what the secretary of state does, i agree with van it's an important race but kemp in fact, if, that's the one trump really went after and getting his clock cleaned down there, trump's pick. >> the sbirnlinternal dynamics republican paerty, but for the country, i think that's very dangerous. >> and ben raffensperger we should say life-long republican but has stood up, published transcript of the call, spoken up about it, of the truth. thank you, appreciate it. next one case of monkey pox confirmed in the united states and potential case being investigated in new york city, how is it spreading? and a covid outbreak

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tonight new cases of monkey pox popping up around the world, new case in france portugal, i confirming cases, spain, one case reported beginning of the week. here in united states, one man in massachusetts in hospital with confirmed case of monkey pox and new york state hospital investigating a case within the hour, largest outbreak of monkey pox, here with the epidemiologist from harvard, i've been watching your twitter on this the past couple days. in light of the where the world is and what people have gone through, people are noticing this and are concerned. can you tell us more about what monkey pox is and how it is transmitted? >> sure, let's start with what

we know. erin, thanks for having me on the show. monkey pox is a disease caused by a virus related to smallpox which has been causing out breaks of increasing size in africa for several decades now. as you say, this is the largest outbreak we've seen outside of africa and you just named a bunch of countries. we just found out in the last few days about it spreading to more countries than we have ever known it spread to before outside the african continent. how it's transmitted, we're still learning. we don't know enough about it because most of the studies that have been done have been done in africa and the work there has been woefully under funded, you'll hear droplets like we had from covid but to be entirely honest we'll learn a lot more in the next few weeks. >> right, you talk about large respiratory droplets but i learned from covid a lot what we were told at the beginning was incorrect and we learned more. obviously it's transmitting in some form. you heard a case here and there,

that was ebola which did not end up spreading widely, that was covid which changed the entire planet. so how worried should people be right now and obviously, it is a pox, right, so you're going to have the global population basically unvaccinated for it, no one vaccinated for smallpox essentially so what are the chances of getting severely ill or dead? >> well the risk of getting severely ill or dying do not right now seem to be particularly high but they're not particularly high with covid and covid still managed to cause, you know, havoc. the most crucial thing people should understand about an emergic infectious disease is whether or not it transmits before people are aware they are infected and if this is like other pox viruses, then probably we'll be able to do some symptom monitoring and slow things down pretty quickly, but if that's not the case, things could be very different. we'll learn that in the coming weeks. >> all right, well professor, i very much appreciate your time. thank you so much.

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as president biden is on his way tonight to south korea, there is growing evidence that north korea is fueling up an intercontinental long range missile and preparing it for a test launch, this as north korea faces a covid crisis the severity of which is frankly, still unknown to the outside world, will ripley is "outfront." >> reporter: the mood is triumphant, the crowd, massive, most people not wearing masks. at last month's military parade in pyongyang, kim jong-un promised to protect his people from hostile forces like the u.s. protection from the virus that would soon ravage his unvaccinated population, nonexistent. weeks later, a devastating fever believed to be undiagnosed covid-19 infecting and killing some of pyongyang's most forgive l , privileged citizens. it was a super-spreader event and we know they flew in

citizens from across north korea. >> some from the chinese border region, a place i visited five years ago. a literal stones throw away from the outbreak in china. pledged to battle the outbreak, the kingdom's border apparently breached by the highly contagious variant. two years of pandemic isolation, two years of sacrifice, gone in one parade. that's the perfect petri dish for this virus to spread so i think that parade will go down in history as a very bad idea for north korea. a colossal miscalculation and experts say the likely cause of north korea's explosive outbreak. an unprecedented nation-wide lockdown, sky rocketing infections and death, a dilapidated healthcare system lacking basic medicines and equipment. millions of malnourished north koreans at severe risk of infection. i think it's going to test his

leadership certainly and create some urgency for very creative story-telling in the north korean propaganda apparatus. north korean propaganda, crucial to keeping the kim family in power, even during times of crisis like the deadly famine of the late 1990s when citizens ate tree bark to survive. heavy surveillance, restricted movement, and brutal political prison camps. >> they strengthened social controls because they had the fear that, you know, if there is an outbreak of it, if there is a crisis, that was what happened in the 1990s, that, you know, the police, the secret police, the military, they all went hungry. >> now they're getting sick. state media says around 2 million fever cases in one week. a crisis of kim's own creation, potentially devastating hardship for the north korean people.

>> and it's pretty incredible. you're talking 2 million cases in one week. and that's -- that's just kind of the estimate. who knows how bad it could be, right? how do you even know what we're hearing out of north korea is the truth? is there any other source of information that you kind of deem trustworthy from all your long experience reporting on and in the country? >> reporter: i can tell you, erin, the only time i really got the full true story was when i was sitting in pyongyang having a coffee with my contacts. and that's when they can speak a little more candidly. if you're trying to email or phone call you're not going to get anything because all of the phone lines are monitored. every home has somebody listening in to all of their phone calls and the rooms in their home. so, this is how the kim's have essentially maintained power, erin, because they'll arrest people if they even hear them saying something controversial.

>> it's absolutely unbelievable. 2 million in one week. and that's just what we're hearing. will ripley, thank you so much live from taipei tonight. next, the biden administration expected to lift an immigration order days from now that has the department of homeland security and residents bracing for impact. ♪ at fidelity, your dedicated advisor will work with you on a comprehensive wealth plan across your full financial picture. a plan with tax-smart insting strategies designed to help you keep more owhat you earn. this is the planning effect.

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tonight the u.s. just days away from what experts warn will be an epic rj surge of migrants at the southern border. president biden set to lift title 42 on thursday, which is the trump era policy. that's going to lift. and biden's own homeland security officials say that could mean up to 18,000 additional migrants crossing the border every day. ed lavandera is "out front." >> where are we headed. >> we're headed towards the river. >> reporter: for seven generations, roberto escobar's

family has farmed the land on 75 acres near the edge of the rio grande. >> often times i walk this way. my ancestors came and settled right here. >> reporter: migrants have crossed the river and through this property for decades. that's not new. but escobar says what is new is the staggered number of migrants crossing the river now. escobar represents the vocal opposition to the biden administration's efforts to lift the covid-19 pandemic era policy known as title 42, which allows immigration officials to block many migrants from staying in the united states for public health reasons. >> it's going to get wild here. we don't stop immigration right now and then by lifting that, it'll get worse. >> reporter: u.s. customs and border protection says in april there were 234 now apprehensions of migrants along the u.s. southern border. the department of homeland

security says that acounts for about 7,000 migrants being caught every day. but dhs is also bracing for a worse case scenario if title xlii is lifted of capturing 18,000 migrants per day. for more than 40 years, jorge has run mcgowin sports, a custom apparel and trophy business. the shop is just blocks away from the prominent shelter taking care of the migrants passing through this border town. >> many people feel like we're over the pandemic, but many people still want title 42 kept in place. does that seem hypocritical in my way? >> it helped. if title 42 is helping to slow that down and we take it off, what's going to replace it? i don't see anybody coming up with a plan to replace this. >> reporter: he also knowns sprawling ranchland in south texas. he says right now the hunting cameras on his property capture more pictures of migrants than

deer. if title 42 is lifted, what worries you the most? >> it will be chaos on the border. we have a huge influx now of immigrants, illegal immigrants. it'll be chaos on the border. >> mcallen's mayor says the u.s. has pumped more than $30 million in the last year to help the city handle immigration costs like transportation and housing. but the mayor says the biden administration should keep title 42 in place to slow the flow of migrants into south texas. do you worry, though, that title 42 is going to be used as an immigration policy and not a public health policy, which is what it is? >> we have been seeing lesser numbers, and it's more beneficial to us. do i know that it's not a policy, an immigration policy? the answer is yes. but it has been useful to us. >> if we're a nation of laws, if you're using a law incorrectly, are we -- are we being hypocritical?

>> maybe. what else is being done to hold immigration down or to stop it or to at least control it to some degree? nothing. >> reporter: roberto es coe bar will keep working his land and keep waiting for an immigration solution that seems lost in these fields. ed lavandera, cnn in the rio grande valley of texas. >> important report. thanks so much for joining us. thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com in pennsylvania, the high stakes republican primary race is tight. we'll have more on that shortly. first there's breaking news in the wake of 2020 and the insurrection that followed. two potentially significant items. new signs the former attorney general william barr is ready to testify to the house january 6th committee. and evidence the committee says it has about a tour of the capitol that barry loudermilk gave on january 5th,de