you legal mind, what impacts do you think the hearings will have on the country. many of the people or most of people involved have faced the judge how or the legal system in some way. how do you think it will affect the court of public opinion once it happens and is playing out on television? >> i think it will be impactful in that the court of public opinion is the electorate. this is who it's for. people have to remember the legislative branch has a goal in mind of trying to prevent this from happening again. these are people who asked to lead from voters. what they have spent the better part of nearly two years or year and a half doing will be of paramount of importance. this has been a huge issue. i think congress would make a mistake to over estimate the attention span of the american ele

electorate. we saw from the mueller report where the american people, say, okay, now what? tell me what you found. if they don't meet or exceed those expectations, it might be counter productive. >> the spinning of it by ag barr of the actual findings of the mueller report. when i was a kid, this was way before your time -- >> thank you. i'm much younger than you, so much. >> i like the hair toss. i remember my grandmother and my mom and dad watching the water gate hearings. i remember the president leaving the white house on a helicopter. it was unbelievable but back then, we only had three channels. now that we have so much, we have social kbmedia, hundreds o channels and the attention span of american public not what it was. >> are you still upset that you were the buone that had to chan

the button, the little knob. >> we were fancy. we had the remote. you had to attach it to the tv. it had volume, up and down for the button and on and off and that was it. thank you, laura. >> thank you. i'm glad for the memory lane. i'll try to find that ka-chunk remote control as a birthday gift. this is don lemon tonight. okay. nearly a year and a half since the big lie exploded into deadly violence at the united states cap capitol, look at this. the committee wants to know more about a tour that republican congressman gave the day before pro-trump rioters storm the capitol. they want to know the purpose of that tour and they say they have evidence that directly

contradicts previous claims by republicans that they were quote, there were no tours, no large groups. no one where maga hats on in the capitol before january 6th. the congressman says a constituent family with young children meeting with their member of congress in the house office buildings is not a suspicious group or reconnaissance tour. the family never entered the capitol building. that is happening as sources tell cnn the former attorney general bill barr has agreed to testify under oath behind closed doors. remember he said, month before the violence at the capitol there was no evidence of voter fraud that could have swung the election. there's still counting the votes in pennsylvania where the gop senate primary is looking more and more like it is headed for a recount. trump backed tv doc oz has a razor thin lead over dave mccormick. look at that. 1,084 votes ahead. that is razor thin.

the former president, the author of the big lie is urging oz to just claim victory. throwing around more baseless claims of cheating. the big lie that is poisoning our democracy, becoming a permanent part of our elections. we have a lot more to come on all of this. we also have to talk about buffalo. that's where the suspect accused of the racist massacre that left ten people indicted by grand jury today in a packed courtroom. >> you're a coward. >> we'll talk to a woman who called 911 from the supermarket. she says the dispatcher hung up on her because she was whispering. straight now to cnn paula reed and evan perez. tell us about this january 6th committee wanting to talk to a law make who gave a tour. >> the january 6th committee is requesting that he voluntarily share information about a tour

of the capitol complex he led the day before the insurrection. this is the first time they have named a specific lawmaker. republicans on a different committee of which he's a member claim to have reviewed the security footage from the days proceeding the january 6th attack and they determined there were no tours, no large groups and no one in maga hats. republicans have denied providing any such tours and he filed an ethics complaint accusing democrats of making the allegations without evidence. today, he responded to this letter from the committee in statement saying this tour was with a constituent family that had young children and they never entered the capitol building. they are calling on the capitol police to release these tapes so people can sort of solve this they said, they said.

right now capitol police are responding saying they cannot make any additional evidence public while the investigation is ongoing. it remains a they said, they said. >> there's so many questions. one of which talked about the interview. he gave the interview as a january riot was under way. he talked about meeting with constituents. what is he saying? >> that's right. as the january 6th riot was unfolding, he told a local georgia radio station he met with a dozen people from his home state on the day prior, on capitol hill and these folks traveled to washington, d.c. for the trump rally that proceeded the attack. let's listen to what he said on the day of the insurrection. >> we had about a dozen people that wanted to come by and visit. we had them in our office. they definitely were peaceful people. people we met at church. they were supporters of the president. they wanted to be up here as if

it was another rally. we checked on them to make sure they are safe. when they saw what it was turning into, they immediately turned and went back down the mall to get away from the crowd here. >> the let fter from the commite is sparse on details about what evidence they have to suggest he was providing a tour that was relevant to the insurrection. to breakthrough, the committee is likely going to have to provide more evidence, specific evidence to prove these claims. this is part of the overall challenge as they try to tell the story of what they uncovered during the investigation over the next several months. >> before you came on, the former attorney general, bill barr, has tentatively agreed to give testimony to the january 6th committee. what do they want know from him in. >> the don, i think bill barr

can come in and provide a lot of information about what donald trump was doing, the former president was doing before and after the election. what information he wanted from the justice department. remember he was pushing for these investigations into alleged fraud which barr told him, finally, there was none. the justice department investigated. couldn't find evidence to support his claims. we know that their relationship was breaking apart, falling apart. you can get a lot of information about the president's frame of mind and perhaps the beginning of what became this effort to over turn the results to do what came to a head on january 6th. >> thank you. i appreciate that. turn now to cnn s.e. cupp. good evening to both of you.

the january 6th committee have evidence that gop rep led a tour of the capitol the day before the rioters stormed the building. we heard tour accusations swirl for more than a year. what does it mean now that the committee say they have the receipts here? >> they better have the receipts because this is a really sensational accusation and allegation. if it's true, it is a remarkable act of betrayal. it's a traitorous act for a member of congress to give a tour in order to provide reconnaissance for an expected attack. that said, i think it's interesting to note his response. it's not the typical nondenial. he said straight up, this does not happen. he's said release the tapes. the committee says we have evidence that directly contradicts your claim. the proof will be right there for the scene. this is not question of intent, this is a question of did it happen? who did he meet with? are these people who stormed the capitol charged by the justice

department? the committee had better be ready to back up this claim because it's quite serious. >> it's not unusual for people to give tours, right, to people they know. if i call up and say you're a congressperson or s.e., can you show me your office or show me around, not usual? >> yeah, exactly right. first of all, i'd never run for congress. people give tours all the time. that will be the question. what did the people, if he gave a tour, where did he show them? did he show the capitol building itself. who were these people? did they storm the capitol? if these are among the people who have been charged by the justice department, that's going be a big problem for the congressman. if they are not and no evidence they were involved in storming the capitol or planning it then this will be an over sell by the committee. >> he said he was there with a constituent family, young children, appears to be saying it's not true.

could this just be a disagreement over how you would define a tour? >> yeah. exactly. the not true part, what part is not true. there's a broad spectrum of what could not be true about what is being said. this is as bad an accusation as it gets. this makes january 6th not an event of opportunity but of intention and then you have a sitting lawmaker, perhaps more, really aiding in the planning of that. i have to say back when democrats were making these claims the days after the insurrection with zero evidence, i was really disturbed by that. both the content of the claims and the fact they had no proof of it. they were just throwing it out there. i mean, like i said, it doesn't get worse than that. if you don't have evidence to back that up, i thought it was

irresponsible. his responses have been so leaving no room for ambiguity. this is a really said they said, they said. democrats are saying they saw what they saw. republicans are saying it didn't happen. we need to see these tapes. we need to see the evidence or this will be a real, you know, battle of partisanship for people watching. >> i want to get to ag barr. could possibly the congress people have been used by people. could they have said, i'm going to ask this person or ask my congressman to show me around with them not knowing the intent for -- >> that stretches credulity a bit. i don't know how many congressmen give hands on tours,

in my limited experience on the hill. it's usually staffer. the question is where did the tour go? do you have any secret entrances, what other ways might we get out of here? where is the security? that's the kind of thing that any sent yent congressman should say wait a minute, something is wrong here. the tape will help tell the tale here. >> let's talk about ag barr. tentatively agreeing to talk behind closed doors. did trump know he had lost the election? explain why this is so important. >> that's the question. there's two bill barrs when it comes to big lie. the bill barr who supported it up until the election and the bill barr after. if he said there's no evidence of fraud then all donald trump did after that, i think there's a better argument it's fraud. he knew there was no evidence of fraud. he tried to use that any way to

strong arm the vice president and state legislature. the testimony becomes clean could go do donald trump state of mind, his intent. >> what is the impact on the republican party and trump world if ag barr does testify? >> there are two bill barrs. there's the barr that republicans really, really liked and then the barr they didn't. he gave an informal interview before, i think at his home. the committee thinks what he said was real useful and now they want him to do it under oath or he wasn't saying enough. there's more to say could compel hem under a subpoena and the threat of perjury to tell more. i'm kind of interested in why this is happening.

i think bar lost a lot of credibility among the maga crowd. didn't really gain any by his last minute disavowal of the trump lie in the 11th hour. >> depends on what he says in testimony. thank you both. appreciate it. inflation, covid, election lies, americans are worried about the direction of this country. the big question is, how do we solve all this and restore faith in our elections. that's the question. that's next. this is roundup for lawns. this stuff works. this stuff kills weeds down to the root without killing your lawn. this stuff works on dandelions, crabgrass, clover. this stuff works for up to three months. this stuff works guaranteed, or your money back. this is roundup for lawns. this stuff works.

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his senate primary before the votes are done being counted. you write in post and i quote here, republicans aren't ready for trump style fraud claims in gop primaries. wa happens if they affect elections at state and local level? >> it's a further erosion of all kind of trust in our election system. what the ultimate impact is on a senate race, i don't think anybody knows. the republican party isn't prepared for this. the pennsylvania republican party or any other state or mu

nus n municipality happens. >> accept for today what he said. it's time for the dark maga, but any way. >> he conceded before he went back on the crazy train. yes. it's easier to identify problems than offer solutions. >> kwhast interesting to me, doug, the same rules are in place that were in place in 2020 for this election and they are saying different things. back then it was stop counting the votes. stop counting the votes. you're going to steal the votes and they are like all the votes need to be counted right now except for trump who is still saying stop. both candidates are saying keep counting the votes when they were saying, because the election lie, the big lie, well we need to just stopping the votes now.

i don't understand the thinking. >> the bush campaign wanted another for whatever would benefit them. i'll tell you the bush campaign argued one thing in florida and didn't contest new mexico because they would have had to make the exact opposite argument of what they were making for florida and florida was a much bigger prize. campaigns will say whatever is in their best interest whether count every vote or we've counted enough. that's politics as usual, fortunately or unfortunately. we've been there before. where we haven't been is there real erosion and eroding our own confidence in our own election systems. that's why georgia went democratic not just for joe biden but trust in our election system in those senate run offers where we saw two democrats win instead of republicans. >> this country is facing crisis on multiple fronts now. people are frustrated. they are burned out by all of

it. what chance is there to solve the problems if people are being told to not have faith in the electoral process. >> i think the unfortunate thing we have seen is the poison that got into the system early is still there in state after state. there are people who are trump followers and running not only for congress but lower offices who are basically taking the trump lie. they find it if it's convenient to lie, you lie. if it's convenient to mislead the county e -- country, do yo that. it's badly for the elections in midterm and even worse for the presidential in 2024. there has to be a effort on both parties to see if they can find common ground before there

occur. there's been a lot of recounting, the trump coming on telling oz to count the votes, declare victory before the votes are in. that kind of thing, then i think there's going to be even more exhaustion and we'll have a much rougher ride and very importantly we're laying the ground work for a government that cannot govern. i don't care who wins. >> how do -- listen, there's only one party right now that is doing damage to the integrity of elections. basically, it's the trump wing of the republican party, which

seem to be the republican party now. we need to work for people to have faith in our system but how do -- why do democrats need to work more with that? they're not out there lying about an election. >> they're not lying but they're also not getting the message out of what they are accomplishing. it's a frustrating process. don, ultimately, i'm not sure the people we're electing right now are capable give tenn the dynamics are capable of over coming these problems now. it's so difficult. it's so rooted. these elections that we're having right now, the pre-preliminaries. telling us nothing much has changed since the election of donald trump. it is primarily, the radicalization started on the republican side. there are elements of it on the democratic side but it's been a republican set of initiatives that have led to this poisoning. >> listen, they are all

lawmakers and should be frying to gain the trust of the american people. the messaging is not good. doug, i want to ask you this question about the freedom caucus. even many gop lawmakers are tired of the freedom caucus members delaying votes, forcing lawmakers to cancel. fund raising events and so on and so forth. it appears the same group behind the madison cawthorn will now target lauren bobert. have more sensible republicans had enough? >> they have. if you talk to members of congress, i talk to every week, you hear this and i've heard from for years now. a constant frustration with the freedom caucus not only blocking things that normal things that republican things would want to do but gumming up the wrorks on everything to turnering into a

battlefield. i know of conversations held the day after madison lost, not on lauren but more or e on marjorie taylor greene. she will be tougher to beat. there's a lot of republican who is are sick and tired of this stuff. they have been successful in north carolina and georgia is where they will look next. >> thank you, gentlemen. votes still being counted in pennsylvania's gop primary and looks like we're leheaded fora recount. you could be using the wrong detergent. and wasting up to 20 gallons of water. skip the rinse wiwith finish quantum. its activelift technology prprovides an unbeatable clean on 24 hour dried-on n stains. skip the rinse with finish to save our water. [lazer beam and sizzling sounds]

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what are you hearing from your sources in pennsylvania politics? what's the mood, as they say? >> the mood is this, the senate race is so tight, it's so tight that it's tight now. i think oz has a lead of about 1100 votes right now. that's going to get even tighter because mckcormick has been performing better among the mail in votes. that's going to tighten. i think mccormick could over come oz at this point. this will go to automatic recount. it will be within .5%. they have to count every vote. i think this could take a few weeks. it could take a few weeks until we have something settled. on the gubernatorial side i think republicans are still shocked that doug mastriono became the nominee. there's a lot of anger about that. i don't see a path for him to win against josh shapiro.

he's going to see he's radical and talking about over turning the election. he's going to have a lot of fun just painting matriono as an extremist. there's anger about the governor's race. >> let's talk about trump and his endorsements. cnn says trump may be getting a lit about this deadlock race. with georgia governor looking like he's going to crush trump's pick of senator david perdue, are the endorsements going to dry up? >> i don't know if they will dry up but in the case of pennsylvania, donald trump really angered a lot of trump sup supporting republican ps trump endorsed oz.

that's what he did and he endorsed mastriono in the 11th hour seeing the polls. going against what most republicans wanted who are trying to get an acceptable candidate. they will blame trump for giving pennsylvania republicans an unelectable candidate for the fall. in pennsylvania, i think trump did serious damage to himself should he run in 2024. in georgia looks like kemp will romp over purdue. if i were trump, i'd keep my nose out of this. he is only making enemies of a lot of republicans by making these endorsements. he's sticking his nose where he ought not. >> thank you. i'll see you soon. the suspect in the racist mass shooting of buffalo indicted by a grand jury. one source saying 15 people saw his plans online just before the attack. , dry and sandpaper. luckily, there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops for instant moisture.

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racist young man took my mother away. i am the eldest daughter of ruth whitfield. she was my best friend. what am i to do? what am i supposed to do now? we were supposed to go see the temptations play that night. i have the tickets still on my table. how dare you! >> anger and grief today during a press conference with the families of people killed in saturday's racist mass shooting. the 18-year-old appearing in court where he was indicted by

grand jury. the washington post is reporting he sent a chat room invitation to discord users before the attack, happening. this is not a drill. let's discuss now. the former special agent in charge of buffalo division of the fbi. peter, thanks for joining us. i mean, the grief is palpable. you can feel it in that woman. awful. cnn is learning 15 yusers saw te suspect invite. before he sent the invite, his plan was private for months. how hard is it to flag it when it's not always public? >> having the right technology and the right amount of people to review is one thing. secondly, you can only look at things are what we would call open source. if somebody keeps things private, it's not going to be

looked at without judicial process which means a subpoena. in order to do that, you definitely have to have some provocation that the person is violating some kind of law or potentially. it's very, very difficult. the last factor is the social media platforms and the ip companies to be able to cooperate with some time with the issue knee. >> could the users face charges especially if they didn't do anything about it? >> i don't think there's anything anyone can do. what is important and i know the girl looking at it is you'll go back into the history. everything with this individual look at in particular these 15 to 30 people. if the fbi finds their names, they will be interviewed. the fbi has to interview them to find out and see if there's any other potential threats that could be facing and finding out who these people are.

why would they be invited specifically are the subject of this case. >> the social media is only one aspect. he was able to get guns. should this have sparked authorities to check into what else he was doing and an example of probably one hand not knowing what the other is doing. >> i think it's a real hot button issue. the lawful purchase of the weapon and the issue of mental health, there's no federal law on the books yet. state to state will are different things. you saw under the face app in the state of new york there are ways to put a red flag on somebody. from looking at this, i don't think it was raising to the level of the state police. they did what they had to do and pretty much what they could do. at the time they did this issue of mental health he was a

juvenile. then the investigation by the fbi of juvenile is very, very scrutinized because it's a juvenile. it remains to be seen but it's a tough issue. >> this was a horrific racist attack. people want know it won't happen again. you say that you worry about people, especially politicians say this will be the last one. from a law enforcement perspective, what are some realistic solutions here? >> the solutions are hard. law enforcement does everything they can, doing the best they can in community outreach where things are important to get out the the community and deal with community on issues and the fbi does that but i know the local police department, community policing is still a very key

factor. i've done these sinterviews before. it's never good. the case we're looking at in buffalo is very hard. one thing i said is where were the parents in this. it seems clear the parents were -- he was pretty much hiding everything from them. it's the upbringing. how these people develop hate at this age. this had to start before he was 17. this is something in him was brewing for years. behavioral scientists, criminal psychologists will have a field day with analyzing this. that will happen. always look at these things and the dust settles, you look at what could you learn from this. what could you implement? the politicians are politicians. it's easy to stand up there and say it stops here today. i've laheard that probably the last five years, ten times.

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it's really hard to wrap your head around this story. a store employee called 911 but because she needed to speak in a whisper, she says the emergency dispatcher got angry with her and hung up in the dispatcher is suspended and may lose her job and the employee joins me now. her name is leticia rogers. thank you so much for joining us. how are you? >> i'm good.

how are you? >> i'm doing very well. listen. but talk about where you were when the shooting happened. told us how this started for you. >> it was about 2:30 in the afternoon and i was at the service desk working with two other coworkers. i sent one of the young ladies on lunch and me and my other coworker were working. i was on the phone with a customer. she had a customer at her window and all of a sudden, you just heard and felt these are two large booms and we stopped and looked like, what was that and i looked up out the window and i saw this customer, this lady with her shopping cart and she stopped and she had this funny look on her face and she turned and ran and that was a few seconds. it seemed longer than that and the next thing you know, you kept hearing the boom. boom. boom.

and you hear him coming inside the store and all we could do was drop to the ground. the young lady i was working with, she proceeded to open the door and that she crawled out on her stomach. i couldn't move that fast, so i just laid it down flat on the floor and got against the counter and was hoping and praying that he didn't see me and it was constant, just shooting. it won't stop. it's constantly going and i was trying to think fast and thought, i have to call 911 and i reached into my back pocket and i dialed 911 and it takes you to the operator. you have to go through first and it gets you to the operator. it sounded like he was going back to the store but he still, as this was all going, he was shooting and it sounds like you are in the middle of a battlefield and when the lady came on the phone, i proceeded a whisper because i did it know

how many people were in the store and i just wanted it to be heard and i said, ma'am, please send help. i gave her the address and i said, please send help. there is a person in the store shooting and she proceeded to say to me, what? i can't hear you. why are you whispering? you don't have to whisper. they can't hear you and i said, ma'am, he is still in the score and he still shooting. at this time he was shooting in the background. i could hear him. you could hear the shooting coming back to the front, so out of nervousness, i drop my phone but it was in front of me. the phone and never hung up and because i didn't have it to my ear, i couldn't hear what she was saying and she said something and she hung up the phone. i hurried up and put my phone on silent so that my phone didn't ring out loud because my phone rings loud when it starts ringing. i had a think of the next

person to call and i called my boyfriend. i said, babe, you have to call 911, there is a person in the store shooting but i'm saying it in the same whispering, talk to her with and she says, in the store and i said, yes, he is still in the store shooting, please call 911 and he says, okay. as soon as i hung up with him, a coworker of mine facetiming and something with him. i whispered on the phone. he asked me, where are you? i said, i'm at the front desk and you have to call 911. please call 911. he said, i'm coming to get you, please get up and run out. i said, i'm scared. i don't want to run. he's still in the store. please call 911. at the hangup with him, now, the shooting stops. the store is dead silent. the music -- i don't know how the music got turned off. the music was off and it's

complete, eerie and creepy and you can hear him walking around and it sounds like he was walking on glass. you could hear crunching under his feet and i could hear him getting closer to where i was and the work phone kept ringing and kept ringing and it kept ringing. it wouldn't stop. you could hear him talking. i didn't know if he was talking to somebody in the store. i didn't know what was going on. i couldn't hear what he was saying but you could hear him talking and as i hear him getting closer, i press myself as flat as i can on the ground and up against the counter praying to god that he wouldn't see me. >> i want you to stand by because i'm going to take a commercial break and i want to hear the rest of your story when we come back from commercial. can you please stay with us? >> yes. >> the worker called 911 and said the 911 operator hung up on her because she was whispering.

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normally we would be starting the top of the hour with the developing new at this interview was so compelling that i wanted it to continue on. i'm back now with leticia rogers. she is the employee who called 911 during saturday's mass shooting and had the operator hangup on her because she was whispering and she was telling her heroin story. the last we left you you said, it was dead silent and the music and the store had gone off in the phone in the office kept ringing and ringing and you were hunched up against the wall on the floor and you could hear the shooter, his feet crunching like glass and debris on the floor and it sounded like he was getting closer and closer to the fron