finally tonight, our thoughts with the families of the shooting victims and everyone in pain after the senseless slaughter in texas. these are some of the 19 children and two teachers whose lives were cut short on what they thought was just another school day, we expect to learn more of their names in the days ahead. may they rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. erin burnett, "outfront," starts right now. "outfront" next, more questions than answers. texas police facing intense scrutiny tonight over their response to the uvalde school massacre, as we learn the gunman entered the school without any resistance and it took over an hour for police to shoot and kill him. plus, more on one of the young lives lost in tuesday's tragedy, annabelle rodriguez

just ten years old killed with her cousin in the same classroom. her father joins me. and canceling the nra, i'll speak to a musician coming up, who just pulled out of a performance at the nra's annual convention which kicks off in just hours. let's go "outfront." i'm pamela brown in for erin burnett, "outfront" tonight, confusion and anger as serious questions grow over the police response to the massacre inside rob elementary school in uvalde, texas, today, officials laying out a timeline of the shooting that killed 19 students and two teachers. government entered the school without any resistance and would take an hour before tactical teams arrived and killed the suspect. also a crucial detail from that press conference today was very different than what we were told yesterday and again this morning. >> there was a brave -- school

district resource officer that approached him, engaged him, and at that time, there was not, gunfire was not exchanged but the subject was able to make it into the school as reported. >> we spoke to that officer yesterday evening, texas rangers did an interview with him -- >> now we're learning the gunman never encountered a school resource officer. >> so from the grandmother's house, to the ditch, to the school, into the school, he was not confronted by anybody. to clear the record on that. >> so there was no school resource officer. and again, it took more than an hour for officers to kill the gunman. during that time, we are now seeing heartbreaking new video of parents pleading desperately with officers to act.

one father of a fourth grader even telling cnn he had to be held back from storming the school himself. >> i told one of the officers myself if they didn't want to go in there, i'll borrow the gun in and go in myself to handle it up and they told me no. >> a lot of questions and a lot of anger tonight, at 11:00, live "outfront," in san antonio with more on the victims but i want to start with ed, what is the latest there tonight? >> reporter: pamela, texas investigator as insist they are trying to piece together all of the confusing information as best they can to provide accurate descriptions of what unfolded here tuesday morning and afternoon. but the confusion is really frustrating and angering for the

victims and of the parents here. >> two days, after the morning the story of what happened when the gunman arrived on the campus, has fundamentally changed. >> i don't have information to answer that question yet. >> reporter: new details revealed in bewildering press conference with officer of texas public safety. >> he walked in uncouobstructed not confronted with anybody. >> reporter: early reports say he was engaged by a school resource officer, 12 minutes after the truck crashed, his grandmother's truck tuesday morning and entered the school through an unlocked backdoor. >> he went in an 11:40 a.m., he walked, and i'll proximate, 20, 30 feet, makes a right, right into the hallway, makes a right, walks another 20 feet, turns left into a school room, a classroom that has doors open in the middle. officers are there, the initial officers there, we see gunfire,

they don't make entry initially. >> reporter: police say most of the gunfire was in the initial minutes. there was a standoff for almost an hour before police forced their way into a classroom and killed him. the question remains why they couldn't get to the gunman sooner. >> how was he barricaded? we've been given a lot of bad information so why don't you clear all this up? >> hitting the floor -- >> the bullets were hitting, close bullets from where? >> i guess he was coming from the school, this way. >> reporter: parents were frustrated police wouldn't let them help save their children, despite safety procedure that is keep people away from an active crime scene. jessie rodriguez lost his daughter in the shooting and was angered by what he saw officers doing outside the school. >> they should have moved in. i don't think they had a right to sit there on their ass waiting. they should have moved in

faster. >> reporter: in all, more than 100 federal officers responded to the shooting, in addition to local police. for one young third grader hiding from the gunman, it seemed like even more. >> at least, there were thousands of police and coming into the cafeteria. we were all hiding behind the stage in the cafeteria when it happened. >> reporter: the uvalde school district did have a safety plan with a system in place to provide a safe and secure environment, 21 measures including a locked-door policy. >> we're still trying to establish if there was any type of locking neck nchls on the door way inside the classroom because the gunman was able to barricade himself. >> reporter: and pamela, we are told tonight that there were a number of officers inside the school building that were taking fire from the shooter and that those officers responding to the scene were taking cover from that gunfire inside the school, but there is still an hour where

all of this is unfolding and still many questions left unanswered as to why, at some point during that hour, there weren't clear efforts made to breach that classroom where the gunman was. >> and all of those children inside the classroom, at 11:00, ed, thank you. and still learning more information about those who lost their lives cut tragically short by this gunman, lucy kavanov outside this hospital in san antonio with more. >> reporter: look at their faces. fourth grader jackie sezares just had her first baptism and first communion. 9-year-old ellie garcia just a week from her 10th birthday. >> sweetest girl you ever had the chance to meet. >> 10-year-old, nevaeh bravo, her name spelled back words is

heaven. this is the pain of their loss, 19 children and two teachers . angel garza who raised ama amarejo garza wants them to know she tried to call 911 to save her classmates and teachers. >> she was the sweetest little girl who did nothing wrong, listened to her mom and dad, always brushed her teeth, she was creative, made things for us, never got in trouble at school. >> lexie rubia loved sports and just at ten years old, dreamed of traveling the world. >> she wanted to go to australia. >> she wanted to go to law school, at st. marys. >> annabelle rodriguez loved to dance, in the same classroom as

her cousin. her father called her a firecracker, postic his range of emotion first at the cowardly way his daughter was killed. it hurts us to our souls. then, a note to his daughter. be in peace with the rest of the angels, sweetheart, baby girl, we all love you with all our hearts. at a community vigil in uvalde, the dead are mourned. they include teacher garcia who was in her fifth year teaching along side eva morelles, both die they say shielding students from gunfire, not lost here, the children still being treated in the hospital. described as critical but stable, wishing there were more live she's could save. >> i think that's what hit us the most, not of the patients we did receive and we are honored to treat them, but the patients that we did not receive, that is the most challenging aspect of our job right now.

>> reporter: the flores family among those who rushed to hospitals in search of their children. it was there that jose senior lived the moment that would befall families in his close-knit community. >> so i didn't get to hold memorial -- didn't get to see him -- >> and pam, a tragic footnote to the piece you just watch.. we showed you photographs of irma garcia, one of the elementary school teachers gunned down in this massacre. cnn sadly learned that her husband joe garcia collapsed and died this morning. he was preparing for her funeral. the cause of death was a heart attack but his family believes he died of a broken heart after losing the love of his life for more than 25 years. she was killed on tuesday. alongside all those young ones. pam. >> there are no words.

lisa kavanaugh. thank you. "outfront" now, former acting baltimore police commissioner, and president of national school and safety services, so hard on the heels of that piece lucy did to absorb all of these precious children and teachers killed in this shooting, commissioner barksdale and right now, police are trying to piece it together, we understand that, but there has been changing stories. officials now say the shooter walked into the school unobstructed, they had previously said there was a campus officer in a car who engaged the shooter before he entered. one official saying that resource officer was interviewed when in fact there was no resource officer. what do you make of the changing story from the police right now? >> unacceptable. an incident like this, get your facts straight. have it straight. have your timeline straight. we have an incident like this,

you want to document and know exactly what happened from beginning to end. you report this to the public, to news reporters, and you don't have your back straight. so how -- how do any of these parents trust anything said from this department at this point moving forward? we have an sro that was there one moment and now, oh, let's get this straight. there was no contact that was reported. that's troubling. and it's an indicator of a problem in that agency. >> i see you nodding your head to what anthony is saying. officials say they believe the door was unlocked, that's how the shooter gained entry and also there was no resource officer on campus, we now know that despite what officials said earlier. your reaction. >> we need to train our

communications officers to be transparent, authentic and timely, but most of all to be accurate. provide chunks of information that are solid facts and pause until you can get the right stuff out, because we don't want to add more anxiety, confusion and lack of confidence on top of an already challenging and senseless tragedy. as far as the unlocked door, we've been working in this field for more than 30 years and three decades, i've had, and we're still throwing tons of technology into target hardening, more equipment, cameras, metal detectors, access control on doors and still, any security technology is only as good as the weakest human link behind it. we're spending more time and putting in equipment and less time in training our people on how to do this and we have to focus in on situational awareness, having people who are

trained to make cognitive decisions under duress and be aware of recognizing patterns out of the norm and surroundings in the context of the day and the first being you can put all that equipment on a door, pam, but if the people are not locking them, if they're leaving them propped open for convenience, there's some tough questions to ask there and it's been the same battle for 30 years, since, 20 years since the columbine era and we're still tackling these same human factors that surpass any type of technology you can put in. >> commissioner barksdale, video outside the school during the shooting captured some parents pleading with officers, in one video, someone yells "go shoot the guy" officials say law enforcement was in the building four minutes after the shooter but waited an hour for the tactical team to get there to go into the classroom and kill the

gunman. does that surprise you they waited while the children are still in that classroom for an hour? >> my fellow guest mentioned columbine. april 20th, 1999, law enforcement learned the lesson, a deadly lesson -- you don't wait. you don't form an outside perimeter and keep people back. you go in with what you got. you go in with your service weapon, if he's got a rifle, you've got training. you look for cover and you try to take the shooter down. incapacitate. and for these officers to be occupied keeping people away instead of being in that school, fighting for those kids, it is shocking to me. it is disturbing. but then to hear an executive say oh, well they were waiting

for rifles. they were waiting for body armor. they were waiting for negotiators. there's no negotiation when you're shooting, when you're mowing down little kids with an ar-15. no negotiations. it is shocking. it's disturbing, and this is absolute failure and i don't care what anybody else says. >> i think so many of us feel that anger. i really do. we feel this anger and we're still waiting for basic answers to basic questions. officials say the door to the classroom was barricaded but they wouldn't answer questions today as to why they couldn't get through. here's what was said. >> can you explain to us how he was barricaded and why you guys could not breach that door? >> so i have taken all your questions in consideration. we will be doing updates. >> you should be able to answer that question now, sir. >> what is your name? >> shamon --

>> i hear you. >> we've been given a lot of bad information so why don't you clear all this up now and explain to us how it is that your officers were in there for an hour, yes, rescuing people, but yet no one was able to get inside that room? >> shamon, we will circle back with you. >> kenneth, it has been more than 48 hours since the shooting. still no answers to a question like that from my colleague shamon proquepez. >> yeah, pam, the first line of defense as your perimeter on the outside of the school. the doorways to the perimeter doors of the school, on the out of the building, and then your classroom doors. now, most, if not, at least many schools in this country have locks on the classroom doors. we don't always advocate for teaching under locked door because it does impact the functionality but we do train on fundamental basic drills. lockdowns, police-controlled evacuations, shelter in place.

we don't support teaching kids and teachers to throw things, attack gunman, which is logistically, questionably impossible with someone like that, but teaching, when you teach kid to see just run kwaev, you're creating target-rich environments but those basic lockdowns save lives. we don't know if the classroom had the time, opportunity, i worked on the sandy hook case, on the civil litigation end as an expert witness and looked at that closely in parkland, some of these unfortunate losses, it's a matter of timing where you just don't have the opportunity but lockdowns do save lives and we have to practice those fundamental skills and lastly, this is an issue of training, an issue of planning, and an issue of preparing and drilling and practicing whether you're the first responders, multiagency jurisdictions or just single departments and with your school

personnel. there's some things we could do, giving floor plans, blueprints, access cards if the building has card readers, get those to your first responders, having them tap into surveillance cameras so they can get live surveillance. there's stuff we can do. >> sad reality we live in right now. thank you so much, anthony barksdale and kenneth trump. "outfront" next, more on the innocent lives lossed. i'll speak to the father of annabelle rodriguez who along with her cousin was killed on tuesday's tragedy, plus the nra convention taking off hours in texas but a short time ago, one popular musician canceling on the nra he's my guest on the show. then, senator ted cruz storms off after being asked this simple question. >> why is america the only

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tonight, a grieving father trying to come to grips with the unimaginable loss of his daughter in the uvalde school shooting massacre, jessie rodriguez visiting this memorial earlier today for annabelle rodriguez, one of the innocent children killed on tuesday, annabelle only 10 years old and in the same fourth grade class as her cousin jackie casarez, also tragically killed.

jessie rodriguez is "outfront." jessie, we are so sorry for your loss. i mentioned you visited that cross that serves as a makeshift memorial for annabelle. you wrote something. do you feel comfortable sharing what you wrote and what that moment was like for you? >> no. >> i think we lost the shot. jessie, can you hear me? >> yes, i can hear you. >> okay, go ahead, if you would. >> when i walked up -- yes, i wrote daddy's going to miss you. >> what did it feel like to be there at this memorial when just two mornings ago you're sending your daughter off to school and now this?

>> i didn't want to face it -- >> jessie, i'm so sorry. we have a bad connection and we're going to reestablish it, and, because we want to hear what you have to say about your precious daughter and want to give her due justice so just give us a minute while we reconnect with jessie. coming up, new tonight, white house says president biden and first lady will travel to uvalde on sunday to grieve with victims' families and the community following the horrifying elementary school shooting there. this as republican leader mitch mcconnell told cnn he directed corbin to work with democrats to find, quote, bipartisan

solutions, mcconnell declined the offer and what those solutions may be. caitlin, republicans and democrats have been here before, communications fall apart before problems are solved. will this lead to anything? >> reporter: pam, dwi think they're hoping it will lead to progress this time but leaving it up to republican leaders if it actually will lead to progress and as you mentioned this is a road congress has been down too many times before, following horrific shootings like the one in uvalde texas and this is where congress finds itself again and you hear lawmakers saying they are optimistic, that this time is different, but if you watched congress in these situations and before heard what republicans have been saying since the shooting happened, i think it's understandable there's a lot of skepticism here so remains to be seen how that happens, right now the senate is out on recess until june 6th so don't expect anything to happen before then and that has led to questions

here at the white house about what executive actions president biden could take. is he considering taking anything on gun? he has taken steps in the past and doesn't seem to be an avenue the white house is really exploring in a significant or substantive way tonight, pam, because when you talk to the white house today and they were pressed on this multiple times, they just kept pointing back to congress and focusing on what those congressional negotiations are going to look like, saying there's not a lot biden can do here by himself, and he even acknowledged that after the last mass shooting just a little over a week and a half ago in buffalo, saying there's only so much he can do when it comes to executive action on guns and saying he's limited there. so those are obviously questions that families will likely have, when president biden and first lady jill biden travel to texas on sunday. they say they are going there to grieve with the families in the community, pam. >> kaitlan collins live from the white house tonight, thank you kaitlan. and right now in houston, nra members gathering for a dinner before kicking off their annual meeting tomorrow where prominent republicans like former

president trump and texas lawmakers like governor greg abbott, ted cruz and congress dan crenshaw are scheduled to speak, just days after 19 kid and see two teachers were shot and killed in their classroom in uvalde texas, but some musicians scheduled to perform at the nra meeting including dawn mclain and larry gatlin canceled performanced today. here, country singer of the gag gatlin trio with us now, why are you taking the stand to say enough is infra. >> i hope the next few minutes is not a waste of time, because i do not have a lot of answers. i can answer that one, especially for a lot of my fans confused about the fact i'm canceled. i did not cancel it in protest against the nra. i'm a card carrying member of the nra, for 40 years as were my

father and two brothers. i canceled it because i did not think it was a good time to go down to houston and have a party with them digging 21 fresh graves in my texas, beloved texas. i believe in the second amendment. the first version of the second amendment, this book, i should read a little more than i do over in luke, chapter 22, the master teacher, lord christ said if you don't have a sword go sell your cloak and buy one. i believe that i have the right to protect myself and my family and my home as i believe everyone does, so i'm a second amendment guy and, you know, so there's no question about that. i just did not believe it was the right thing to do. it would have been kind of a classy move on the nra's part and they need some good pr right now, if they cancel the whole thing and said hey, we're going here for one big moment and say a prayer for those folks and have a moment of silence and

come back and do this later. we can always have our big convention. they decided not to do that and this old simple country singer, my choice was to do that. for these folks, my own twitter feed blowing up 50-50 of my fans who believe i've turned my back on the nra or second amendment, no, that's not true. so we cannot put ourselves in their place, people say well, we're praying for you and our prayer and see thoughts when the gatlins say we're going to pray for you we get on our knees which i did about an hour ago because it's an awesome responsibility to be here with you folks, especially in light of, you know, i'm a little bit on the other way, on the other side of the political spectrum from most of the folks at cnn but i appreciate you all covering it and i appreciate you having me on. i wish i had more answers. >> i can just say here, i'm not left or right, we just want to get the answers and we want to focus on the facts. why don't you think the nra

postponed this or canceled it given what happened just two days ago in texas? >> i'm sorry, why do you think they didn't? >> yeah, why do you think they didn't cancel or postpone this? >> i don't know. i can't get into their minds. >> did you express to them why you were pulling out and what was the reaction? >> no -- my assistant bonnie called them. i would gladly talk to them, wouldn't hide from anybody, i don't hide, i'm pretty much an open book, hi i'm larry, i'm an alc-sober by the grace of god for 40 years. bonnie sat down as my manager, say larry isn't going to be there, if they ask me to go down some time i'll do t i just a thought it was inappropriate. i don't know what all was going behind the scenes or anything

else. every large corporation makes good decisions and bad decisions. i happen to think this was a bad decision to carry it on. if they want to revoke my membership i guess they can do that. i'll still carry my firearm to protect myself and my family and my band and even the folks for whom i sing, thank god, lived the last 67 years, i can't get inside their mind, believe me, it looks kind of whacky in here sometimes. >> i understand that, it looks whacky in mine too, you say you still support the nra. something the nra does not support is background checks. you do support background checks though, right? >> i think there should be some way. you know, people talk about negotiating. well let's get together, both sides of the aisle, a always say let's get together -- they don't mean that. they mean i'll come in there and tell you what to do. if you're going to get together,

inherent in that is that you leave some of your crap outside in the hall, and that the other bunch leaves some of their crap outside in the hall and you come in and take what crap you got left and see if you can make something out of it. that is what negotiation, what coming together really means. it never has meant i'm going to get all of my stuff and you're going to get all of yours. it's very strange to me that the people who want to revoke my second amendment rights to carry a weapon, they are guarded and never have more than five or 10 yards away, somebody who doesn't have a piece on them. so i think it was depicted, what's said, you should never bring someone before the tribunal of justice until you, yourself, have been brought before the tribunal of justice, kind of means what's good for the goose is good for the gander so if you're sitting up there, nancy pelosi, telling me to turn

my firearm in, tell your guy guarding your limo to turn his in first then we'll talk about it. leaving your crap in the hall. >> and of course you're entitled to your views on this, it's a hotly debated topic people are empassionated about especially in the wake of this shooting. but you said you did not feel it's right to go to this nra meeting when all these sbweet children and teachers are being buried, what do you think of the many high profile republicans still attending, like tread cruz, governor greg abbott, former president trump. >> that's none of my business. in much the same manner that i've had to learn that other peoples' opinion of me is none of my business. now, i really hope that there are about 1,000 people who have a good opinion of me, about 60 or 70 times a year when my brothers go out there, you know, about a thousand, i can pay the rent on a thousand. i hope they have a good opinion

of me and the music, but if i sit around worrying, that's what it's called -- codependency, if i'm depending on everybody liking me, i am in a deep sewage. it's not going to happen. again, they speak for themselves. i'm not going to be, with all due respect, trapped into talking about them. >> that's fine, not trapping you, just asking. >> going to save my simple and feel i'm going to be able to do it, if i met my maker tonight, i'll be able to stand there and say this is how -- like i say, for somebody who said they don't have a lot of answers. it seems like i have a bunch. i would, you know, socrates did not become the father of western philosophy by answering questions. he asked a lot of questions and embarrassed a lot of people. my question is there this, very simply, if you ask those mothers and fathers down there today if they wish that their child's

first, second, or fourth grade teacher had been able to exercise their second amendment rights, had a weapon on him, that sorry bastard would have had his, that's what i believe. >> now we're going to get political with that and don't have time to discuss that but larry gatlin thank you for coming on the show to share your perspective on this. >> thank you. "outfront" next, senator ted cruz dodging reporters when questioned about the latest mass shooting. >> senator, i just want to understand why you do not think that guns are the problem? bipolar depression.

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want to understand why you do not think guns are the problem. >> why is this just an american problem. >> it is just an american problem, sir. >> why is america the only country that faces this kind of mass shooting? >> you can't answer that, can you, sir, you can't answer that? >> why is it that people come from all over the world to america? because it's the freest, most prosperous, safest -- >> it may be the freest -- >> australia, canada, new zealand, norway, all tightened gun laws after mass shootings in their country and as tom foreman points out it is a uniquely american problem. >> reporter: when five people were gunned down in the united kingdom last summer, the nation was shocked, its had some of the world's toughest gun laws since a mass shooting in 1996, mass shootings then became extremely rare. so in the wake of new attack, government announced tighter

restrictions, including mandatory tests for mental illness in would be gun owners. >> my hearts are very much with the families of all those who tragically lost their lives, in absolutely appalling incidents. >> reporter: large scale shootings triggered limits on gun ownership and access in numerous countries, advocates for gun control point to them as proof that mass shooting incidents can be dramatically reduced. >> a gunman kills more than 2 dozen people and injures several others. >> reporter: 35 people killed during anna australian shootin spree in '96. the government launched a massive gun-buy back program, banning military type semi-automatic weapons and there

have been no mass shootings since. canada has massive requirements in response to mass shootings there. a slaughter in nova scotia in 2020 spurred opponents to say those laws don't work, but again, gun control advocates notice a downward trend in gun deaths over the past 20 years. >> we know other countries in response to one mass shooting have been able to craft laws that almost eliminated mass shootings. >> reporter: after 51 people were killed in new zealand in 2019 by australian gunman who targeted mosques, the government, in six days, went after military-style semi automatic weapons, high capacity magazines and more. >> every semi-automatic weapon used in the terrorist attack on friday will be banned in this country. >> reporter: and the prime minister said just this week, they are not done. >> there are still obviously guns misused in new zealand, so

i won't sit here and say that our system is perfect. but we saw something that wasn't right and we acted on it and i can only speak to that experience. >> reporter: government supporters insist you can't prove these regulations caused this decline in mass shootings or that it would work here but these countries believe they have figured out how to reduce gun violence and it started with the guns. pam? >> all right, tom foreman, thank you. and "outfront" next, we're going to reconnect with jessie rodriguez, the father of 10-year-old annabelle guadalupe rodriguez who along with her cousin was killed in tuesday's terrible tragedy. i'm a food cri. i literally eat for a living. this can be a game changer. do you knonow what the future holds? i have moderate to severe plplaque psoriasis.

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patriots, nationalists, people with connection to the ukrainian military for example so as you rightly mention, we've heard harrowing reports from both eye witnesses and our sources of brutal and violent interrogations, raising to the le level of torture but even beyond that, the conditions at the camps according to our sources are pretty appalling, in preexisting facilities like schools or support markets not meant to how's people for long periods of time yet we understand from our sources and again from eye witnesses that some people are held here as long as a month with no sign of when they might be released. the average, according to our sources, is about three weeks and even if you survive this process, even if you manage to make it and be shipped into russia, from there, what's happening is many of these ukrainians are being relocated in cities and towns all over the country of russia and economically depressed areas and essentially left there and said hey, you live here now, you got to make it. >> so what is happening then?

once they are sent there into russia? >> reporter: yeah, so it's a really mixed bag of experiences. some ukrainians are offered a little bit of support, they might get a little bit of cache maybe the equivalent of 150 box in rubles, maybe russian sim card, housing at a place to live, some of them quite literally left in towns potentially thousands of miles away from their home with no support whatsoever and told to get a job and survive and we know from our sources, at least some of these ukrainians have been sent as far as saccalin island, this little residential community on this spit of ground quite literally in the pacific, pam, this is 10,000 miles from the ukrainian border. and of course, the question for these people is if you have no resources, how are you supposed to get home? how are you supposed to be able to leave russia? we do from these sources, some ukrainians have been able to make it across the border into

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earlier about a grieving father trying to come to grips with the unimaginable loss of his daughter in the uvalde school shooting massacre, annabelle guadalupe rodriguez was only ten years old, in the same fourth grade class as her cousin, jackie gusarez also tragically killed. her father is back with us after technical difficulties, sorry about that jesse, but before we lost connection i was asking about a makeshift memorial for annabelle you visited today, if you would, tell us what you wrote on it and what that moment was like for you. >> it was hard. i miss her, really, you know, so went to the memorial and signed daddy misses you already. >> she was so full of life. this is a picture of annabelle we put up, just hours before the

shooting, celebrating and making the honor roll, celebrating, receiving certificate for music. she loved to dance. here's a video you shared with us. dancing clearly brought her so much joy, what else do you want the world to know about her? >> she loved school. i mean she, even when she was sick, she didn't like to miss a day of school. she was growing up, always told me she wanted to be a veterinarian, also challenging new things. she liked to work with me, since i'm a carpetenter, she liked to

do whatever i did, learned to pull carpet out, cut linoleum for me. her twin sister would, they always at work, trying to help me doing something, painting, something. just, the little things. bright, smart. annabelle always helping her twin sister doing everything. cleaning up the juice and milk she spilt. up to this day, you know, anybody who says something bad to her sister, she'd jump in and defend her. >> she was protective, protective sister. and the twin sister is home-schooled. how do you even begin to tell her about what happened?

>> i haven't even got close right now. it's just -- i know she's going through a lot more because i mean they were so close, you know, they did everything together. you know, now it's going to be a big gap there that she is going to have to learn to grow into. as well as me. >> tell us about annabelle's cousin jackie who was also tragically killed. >> jackie was always the smartest, since she was just a baby. i mean as a baby, she'd grab a phone and just scroll through it like she was an adult, you know. she taught my twins how to screw with their phones and get to what they needed to get to and

they were always playing together, you know, and when they got into fights, they still loved one another. nobody can separate them. they're just, they learned to love each other. >> there are still so many questions. >> very bright. >> i'm so sorry, i did not mean to interrupt you there. anything else you would like to say about her? >> no. it's just -- just hurts. >> there are still so many questions tonight. there are some details coming out, but we are learning the gunman was in the classroom for an hour before being killed by tactical officers and then on top of that, officials say there was no school resource officer at the school. as you are hearing more of these details, what goes through your

mind? >> it is very upsetting. you know what i mean? as a father, i would have just went in. i don't need nobody tell me go in and defend the harmless children. why wait? take it upon your job. you're officers of serving the peace and protect us. protect our children. and one hour being in there is too long. that's just too much. it should have been within minutes. this man took it upon himself and harmed our children here,

one at a time and they didn't do nothing to him. now we're all scarred here. i believe the officers at that point should have went in and took control. not let this man finish off with them, one at a time. >> jessie rodriguez, we wish you peace and strength? the days ahead. again, we are so sorry for your loss. ac 360 starts now. one cross standing in front of rob elementary school, 19 for the boys and girls killed there on tuesday, two for their teachers who died trying to protect them. we learn much more today about

how this tragedy