don lemon tonight live from uvalde, texas starts right now. hey, don. >> here we go with another mass shooting at a school. it's horrific to have to report it. i'm going to get to it. thank you. i'll see you tomorrow. hello, every one. i'm here in uvalde, texas, until you're here, until you talk to the people in this small town, until you see them face-to-face, you don't really know. you don't really feel what it is like. i mean how can you. it is a small town of grief stricken families. parent, grandparent, neighbors all trying to understand what happened. pretty much every one here is hurting or they know someone who is hurting no matter where i go if it's to a church or grocery store or convenient store. you hear people talking about someone they know is in hospital or someone been affected by

this. if you look behind me, you can see the 21 crosses with the names of 19 little kids and two teachers killed in their classroom. 2 place they were supposed to be safe. what we're learning about the police response raises some disturbing questions. police vealing nobody was there the try to stop the gunman when he got in through door that was apparently locked and he was inside for about an hour before he was killed. how can that happen? what happened? an hour when desperate parents were all crowded outside. they were pleading with police to go in and let them go in or let them go in themselves. that is so hard to watch. so hard to listen to listen to

their screams. the father of one student says he pleaded with officers to give him their gear so he could go inside as the shooting was happening. his son did survive but 19 ore children, two teachers did not survive. also joining us, cn nrknn law enforcement analyst, anthony barksdale. it's good to see you. i wish it was under better circumstances. i've been watching your reporting from new york. shimon tlhere was a press conference today, they provided many more questions than answers

to all of this. >> they one thing they did provide as a time line and we have been asking them for this timeline of how things unfolded here and what this time line shows, it starts with this event, with this crash that occurs here outside the elementary school at 11:28 in the morning. then at 11:40 in the morning there you see about 12 minutes or so after the gunman walk sboos the school and then 11:44 that is when law enforcement first starts to make their way into the school. then there's a gap of one hour that the gunman is inside the classroom. the police make to effort to get inside. they say the door was barricaded. that was the question today. i asked the director here what was the -- how was he barricaded. what that this about.

take a listen to that exchange. >> you guys have said he was barricaded. can you explain to us how he was barricaded and why you cannot breach that door? >> i have taken all of questions into consideration. we will doing updates. >> you should be able to answer that question now, sir. >> the other thing is the police have not been doing a good job in giving us accurate information. that was another issue that i brought up with the director here. we also still don't have so many answers and they are starting the clear some of it like today the fact there was no resource officer here. all along, since tuesday they've been saying there was there officer that was assigned to there school was here, engaged the gunman. today they say that never happened. the officer was never here. >> why is that? inaccurate or conflicting information. how is there no school resource officer? usually they are here or armed.

there was no one. how could that be? >> that's a question we asked. we did not get answers to that. >> also, we are learning not shimon, boris. we are learning what's happening outside the school. there were parents begging with police officers to go in with law enforcement or give them their gear so they could go in themselves. >> it was a moment of panic when the news spread across town there was a shooting at robb elementary school. parents rushed over here trying to help their children. when they got here, it was in that space that lull that we heard law enforcement officers referred to that shimon was describing when the shooter was barricaded inside and a kraud of law enforcement officers outside. there was one parent, victor luna who told cnn that he asked police, give me a gun, give me a vest. i'll go in there myself. the officers refused. he later told our colleague that police were doing their job but

he doesn't believe they were doing it fast enough. his son was inside, was able to get out alive. it took a long time and that agitated him as well. >> there's this corner and if you can go around another way and go to another corner, which is the other front end of the school. i'm told my some of the residents here that when parents couldn't get answers here and they they could understand why law enforcement weren't able to get in. they were trying everything they could to get their children out of that school. >> as one would naturally do when you hear there's an armed gunman entering into a school and opening fire. it was an unthinkable moment but in any scene like this, there's going to be chaos and as noted, there's a ton of questions to answer. what you don't usually see that discrepancy when they tell you

one day there was a resource officer and the very next they have to correct it and say there wasn't one . >> as a father, i would have just went in. i don't need nobody feltell knoo in and defend the harmless children. why wait? you're officers of serving the peace and protecting us. >> i told the officer if they

don't want to go in there, let me borrow a gun and a vest i'll go in there myself to handle it up. they told me no. they were doing their job, what they could have done but they could have done it quicker before that man went in the school. >> anthony, are they right? >> yes. yes, they are right. since columbine, we have known that law enforcement has known that you don't have a second to waste when you're dealing with an active shooter. you know that's an elementary school. you are armed. even if you don't have the same type of fire power that that 18-year-old that should never had an assault rifle had, you still go in. you engage, you make contact. you try to use cover if you're out gunned but you keep them

occupied and get those kids out of there. police engage the teepachers, g the kids out of here and you hold that ground. you bang it out with them until your weapons arrive. those parents were right. >> anthony, listen, i know there are member of law enforcement at home, the pro-law enforcement community, which most people are. they will say how can you second guess these officers. you were not at the scene. you don't know what they were up against. there's a standard way to respond to these situations. you believe in all of your years as law enforcement that someone dropped the ball here. that police dropped the ball? >> i do. i'm not going to change my view on this. i'll tell you why, if there's doubt. the earlier portion of my career

i was what's called a cover man. that meant i was also the one who entered the door to make a shoot, don't shoot decision no matter who or what is on the other side. i've lived it. it's not just criticizing these officers, this department because i'll tell you what, i also look at the top of this agency. how do officers now when columbine occurred in 1999, how were these officers not properly equipped, don? where were there patrol officers? where were there body bunkers? that should be in trunk of somebody's vehicle at this time. we have been through too much not to learn from past failures. this is unacceptable. one of the worst parts is, the great state of texas came up with the model, a nationally recognized model called alert. advanced law enforcement rapid

response entry. something close to that. texas state came up with it. they have a whole school on this. they are right there in texas. it advanced law enforcement rapid response training. it's right there in texas. yeah, i'm going to be critical. what they need, the resources they need is right there in their state. this is a miss. we let down all of those little kids and teachers. i stand on what i say. >> as if this couldn't get any worse, boris, it's a tragedy on top of tragedy. tonight we're learning that the husband of one of the teachers who was killed inside of the school also dying today. died of a heart attack. just a tragic turn on top of so many. irma garcia was a teacher at the school. we're told she died trying to protect kids as she jumped in

front of the gun pman. her husband, joe garcia, of more than 25 years was captured by cameras here at the scene yesterday leaving flowers at the memorial behind us. we're told that he suffered medical emergency. he was rushed to the hospital and ultimately he passed away. his family posting on a go fund me page they believe he died of a broken heart. >> this memorial just keeps growing. even from this morning. it's beautiful to see how many people have been coming here from the community, young, older. this is such a -- i've been here since tuesday night. it's a close knit community. everybody knows each other. this stunning to see. people are really starting to come out and express their feelings and the flowers and pl balloons. they have a long ways to go with funerals coming. >> since i got here this afternoon i've seen it grow. police officers, law enforcement

have been allowing people in the community to go in there and only other people who live in the neighborhood here near robb elementary school. thank you, gentlemen. thank you so much. it's heartbreaking. really heartbreaking. there's a lot more -- thank you, anthony. i appreciate you joining us as well. i appreciate your candor here on cnn and your reporting all day. thank you so much. there's a lot more to talk about. we're learning a lot more about this investigation. we'll find out more in the days to come. let's not forget why we're here tonight. why i am here. this all about the lives that were brutally cut short. 19 children, two teachers. their names on the white crosses. a memory outside the school where they died. their live, futures taken away from them. children who might sound a lot like kids you know who love their parents, their brothers and their sisters and their

classmates. kids who played baseball and video games and soccer. did it all together. who loved cheerleadering and basketball. who made the honor roll and who loved to play. two teachers who devoted their lives to children and lost their lives trying to protect them. we have to remember that this is all about them. let's in the lose sight of that. i'm going to be talking over the nec two hours to some of the people in this town as they look for way forward here in the face of a tragedy that's hard to comp comprehend. we have a lot of coverage for you. we'll introduce you to some people in community. stay with us.

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woe're back now in uvalde, texas. police confirming the gunman was killed about an hour after he entered the school behind me and revealing that he was initially not confronted by anybody as he

made his way in. joining me to talk about this is texas state senator. he represents uvalde. we spoke to you this other night as this was unfolding. you made your way here from san antonio. you drove. >> that's correct. >> there's a lot of questions about what happened. you say there's more holes that need to be filled here and there are a lot of answers that we need to get. are we getting those answers tonight? >> i talked to the troopers, the rangers. they suggested that over the course of the next 24 to 36 hours we should have a full blown report. i've tasked them to do just that and sooner. listen, this isn't rocket science. everything is on video in there. we deserve to know what happened. the parents deserve to know what's happened. it's my hope that we'll get

answers. >> are you getting answers now? anything to your satisfaction? >> nothing that i've seen that's satisfactory. i understand this is an active investigation but the shooter is dead. we're not talking about motive anymore. we have to figure out where there was a failure and if there was a failure. i think that every one of these law enforcement officers are brave men and women. don't get me wrong. tclos trains these people in an active shooter situation, like your expert suggested, you go if. that's what you took the job on for. i don't know if i had that to do that inside of me but i know there was a failure here. >> you know there was a failure. i know you're getting information and you said to me, you know kwwhat's inside the trailers, the crime scene trailers and what else you say is behind it. >> these two trailers is where law enforcement is doing their

investigation. looking at videos they have seen from the classrooms and the bit that i've had privy to is not of the carnage but the initial l entrance of law enforcement in the building and the standstill. at that point, we wait an hour, an hour plus. >> you said the stand still on the stand off. ? >> stand off. >> did they pull back when they should have gone forward from what you've seen? >> an active shooter situation, i've every law enforcement officer and expert in san antonio where i live and throughout this district, you go in. that didn't happen here. i don't want to monday morning quarterback this thing but we have to find out for the future so this never happens again. what kind of failures happened. i feel in this situation, standing back was not the thing to do. your expert suggested the same

thing. that's exactly what happened here. >> i'm going to say this because i was speaking to someone recently about and air crash that happened. they were telling me about the planes are built with all this redundancy and they are resilient. someone was in an air emergency and they turned to pilot and said have you dealt with this before. they said i've dealt with it a million times in training but not when it happens. in this particular situation a crash. do you think that's what happened here? they dealt with it in training but in real life -- >> i don't fault them. we just have to figure out what happened so it doesn't happen g again. >> because the families and the people of the community deserve some answers. they deserve better. >> absolutely. i want to know when our strait troopers arrived, when the federal government arrived. cpb, customs and border

protection. the factactical team arrived. they got here and got out and killed the guy. that happened full hour plus, after the initial engagement of officers going into the building. >> what does that do for the community? what does that do for you, for every one? >> listen, i came to uvalde to comfort constituents, let them know that state resources were here for them. to learn for myself what happened so it doesn't happen again and to talk to people about the horrors of this gun violence. there's no way in the world that an 18-year-old kid should access a militarized weapon like it happened in this situation. i put that on people that are new power in texas. it's the republican party. they control the house. they control the senate and they control the governor seat. >> no, no, no representative. don't politicize this. this isn't the time to politicize this. you know i'm -- >> i know. >> i get it.

this isn't the time the talk about it. we have plenty of time to talk about this. these weapons not having access to them would have not stopped this. kw what's your answer? it's a mental health issue. >> i've sat with some shocked parents. they don't want the talk to me. they don't want to talk to you. they are just in shock. they are destroyed. they have culminated in this. we can't have this happen anymore in this country, in this state. i ask for red flag bill in 2019. it went nowhere. an 18-year-old buys these guns over the counter. that's astounding to me. >> it's always every excuse or every solution goes beyond the access and availability and

proliferation of guns? why is that? is that because of the nra in. >> i don't know what fascination the republicans have with the guns or with the nra or with the money. this is what they do session after session. they are killing, they are killing babies in our country. yeah, it was a sick, mentally ill young man. i get it. at the end of the day and we need to do more about mental health in our state, but at the ebds of the day, if he didn't have access to militarized weapons that you see in afghanistan, this wouldn't have happened. >> should the department of safety, do you trust them to investigate themselves and do the investigation here in. >> i know my friend joaquin castro is asking for fbi investigation. i support that. i know our state troopers are good and honest people. i know they are working on putting this thing together.

i know they will tell us the facts as to when things happen. i do expect that and i expect it quick. >> what do you want to hear from the president and first lady? >> listen, the president needs to come here and comfort people. that's what he is here to do. >> thank you. i'm sorry we met under these circumstances. >> thank you. >> thank you for standing up. looks like you haven't gotten any sleep. i hate the say that. >> i'm recovering from a surgery, but yeah, thank you so much. >> again, a lot more to talk about here, including her niece was inside the school behind me when the shooting happened. no one could reach ore. while worrying about that 8-year-old little girl, she was in lockdown here's teaching at uvalde high school. this is my next guest story. she'll tell us about it right after this. ork is here. it's there. it's everywhere. but for someone to be able to work from here, there has to be someone here making sure everything is safe. secure. consnsistent.

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it is palpable. joining me is arena. her niece survived be shooting. some of the students in her class have family member who is were killed and just a few years back she was a substitute at robb elementary school. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> how are you? >> i'm better than i was the original day. yeah. >> you're teaching at a school. you know your niece is here and what? in that sort of meantime as you're trying to figure this out. terror, torture. >> fear, sadness, worry, concern, you know. should i text my sister. should i text my -- text your family. text everybody. >> she did manage the sneak out of school and ran to somewhere in the neighborhood to a

neighbor's home. >> her whole class. her teacher saved her whole class. >> you thought she was gone? >> for a second, yeah. i can't imagine what was going through your mind. how is -- i'm not going to say her name. how is your niece doing? >> she's sad about losing her friends. she's safe now but she's sad. she learned on the news that her friends that were missing are gone. they are in heaven. that's the way she understands it. they have in heaven now. she's going to miss them. >> is your sister, her mom? >> she's tired of seeing the news. she just wants to be left to herself. >> you can understand that. >> your school went into lock doi lockdown as well. >> yes. >> talk to me about that. >> i thought it was practice. we used to do run throughs of

the other shootings going on in other school districts two years ago. the children immediately started texting their parents in the dark. turn offer the lights. got them away from the window, away from the door. we had a closet. hid some of them in the closet. i said, go ahead and text your parents. the parents corresponding quickly, very quickly. then they learned through their parents there was something happening at the same time right here. there was a shooting here and there were injuries, there were fatalities. >> you told my family some of your students found their cousins, people they knew, loved ones died in the elementary school. you had to console them? >> yes, of course. i had to reassure them we were going to get through this together. i promised them, literally that i would take a bullet for them if anything happened. i told them to stay quiet. we prayed together. we hugged each other. we stayed on the floor. we stayed on the floor for

almost -- it felt like five or six hours, hidden. >> there's been teachers have gotten, you have such responsibility. you always have. in the last couple of years or so, you had really been getting what's happening with school board meeting, what that are demanding of teachers and worried about what you're teaching. you're always protectors but even more so now. do you think the public realizes how much your jobs have changed and the pressure they are putting downand the biggest part of your job may be protecting the students. >> keeping them alive. keeping them alive. not just keeping them physically alive but mentally alive, emotionally alive. so many of them are still recovering from covid. being in their houses, not being able to go out. wearing a mask every day.

being pair noid if i'm going to get sick. some students still wear their masks. a lot of them wear their masks in school. it's not as severe down here but it's out there. >> the shooter wasn't enrolled, according to his grandfather. didn't go -- maybe was enrolled but didn't go do school. >> that's what i read about. >> went to uvalde high school. did you have a relationship with l him? did you noi him in. >> i've never met him. i don't recall him. i think maybe two of my students that day mentioned him. they recalled who he was. that he had not been in school for more than six months. he had not been on campus. >> if i may be candid you said if you stop and pause that i would have to bear with you because you were so nervous about doing this. you're so exhausted that you

kind of rehearsed. >> yeah. >> talk to me about -- >> what i rehearsed was the emphasis of us being a community. this is not just about the students and the families that loss. this is about the survivor. >> the janltorial staff. >> they risked their life at the high school for us. there was a time when we heard the marching, when we haerld the s -- heard the soldiers coming in. janitors were locking the doors. they put themselves at risk every time they step back in the hall. the office staff, the secretaries. they were -- they stayed in the halls checking on everybody. they could have been harmed at any time. >> all of you. >> yeah. >> thank you. i appreciate you joining us and give our regards to your sister. >> thank you. >> and your brother-in-law and your niece, of course. >> yes.

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chuck schumer seeming hopeful about the talks but saying if the negotiations do not bear fruit in the short period of time, the senate will vote on gun safety legislation. let's discuss now. texas congressman collin allred is here. thank you for joining us. i'm sorry about what's happened in your state and what you are dealing with and the whole country. have you reached out to senator cornyn since his announcement as part of the texas delegation? >> i have not. i am glad to see this happened. i'll be interested know what the instructions from leader mcconnell were. whether they were to try and actually find a solution or were to appear to try and find one. i hope that senator cornyn is there to help texan, americans

and find solutions. >> i was going to ask you, do you believe it's going to be a good faith effort by cornyn, any other republicans to negotiate on gun legislation. it's not -- it haunt worked before. this time do you think there's going be a good faith effort to do it? >> well, let me say, i think of these school shootings as a violation of our societal norms. this is like a mass trauma similar to a terrorist attack. my boys go to day care here in dallas. their day care is beefing up security. parents were talking about the drills the kids have go through. my 3-year-old have drills they have to hide in place. i have some colleagues who i know are also parents on the republican side who i know are -- people of good will, who i hope we can work together the find something.

to me it makes sense to make sure that an 18-year-old can't walk into a gun store and by two ar-15s and buy hundreds of rounds of ammunition when he can't buy a beer. that makes sense. there's other areas that have 88, 75% of the support of americans. nopefully we can do something on that. i think we have to push for it. we can't say it hasn't worked in the past. we have to try again. >> i know you're in dallas. i know your a texas congressman but let's talk about what's happening in houston, tomorrow. the nra annual meeting is taking place there tomorrow. the governor of the state, greg abbott, senator ted cruz are all expected to attend. how are you feeling about them going after this tragedy. >> >> yeah. i can't imagine having had this occur in our state and just a few days later just a few hundred miles away, you're going to an event like this in which

we know they're going to be talking about cheering on the success they've had in pushing more and more lethal guns into more and folks hands around the country and getting rid of the laws in mplace to try to protec people. i think that's the wrong thing to do. i don't expect much from someone like senator cruz who when we had a winter storm that took out our power decided to go on vacation. texans know when we have a crisis he's not going to be there or it's to score his own political point. we have come to expect that. >> okay. i want our viewers to pay attention to this and you to pay attention because you'll have to respond to it. this is ted cruz. he's being interviewed by a reporter from sky news. listen to this. >> why does this only happen in your country? i really think tha what many people around the world, they cannot fathom, why only in

america? why is this american exceptionalism so awful? >> i'm sorry you think american exceptionalism is awful. >> i think this aspect of it. >> you get your political agenda. >> why is america the only country that faces this kind of -- >> you know what. >> you can't answer that, can you? you can't answer that. why is this -- >> why is it people come from all over the world to america. because it's the freest, prosperous, safest and stop feeding the propaganda. >> that was an interesting display there of spin. what do you think of his refusal to answer the question? >> there is no answer. there is no answer that he could giv give. we're not more violent than other countries. we don't have more instances of mental illness but we're only the may job developed country that experiences this because of

policies like the ones that make sure we have no restrictions of allowing an 18-year-old to go into a gun store and buy a weapon of war without anything illegal having occurred. none of that was breaking the law. yes, america is exceptional. we're exceptional because we have been able to reform ourselves to continue to perfect our union. we have been in motion, changing, getting better on the issues that have held us back. we have not been doing this on this issue because of enentrched, extreme minority in our politics and in our lobbying having so much power of the gun lobby over those politicians. >> congressman, thank you. i appreciate it. >> thanks, don. look, america is exceptional, but not on this particular issue. senator ted cruz and others are out of step with the majority of the american people. they are the fringe when it

comes to sensible gun legislation. most people in this country want some movement. they want their lawmakers to work together to do something so people like senator ted cruz who say, why are you politicizing this. it's bs because they are trying to blunt criticism. they have no response to why they are not acting in the best regard for the entire american population an not just to hold onto their power and no t just the money they are getting from the nra. moving on now. you can see the elementary school behind her lohouse. i'll go through the neighborhood around robb elementary school and hear how the shooting went down from someone who heard the whole thing. it played out right in front of her. that's next.

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so we are back now with our breaking news coverage. when i got to uvalde today, i wanted to meet with a woman named kim hammond. she lives behind the elementary school and she heard the shooting when it happened. she summed up what i know so many of us feel about these mass shootings that take innocent lives, including children. listen to this. >> when sandy hook happened, i think the whole nation took it hard because these were little kids. who is going to kill little kids like this on purpose? and then to have it happen

again, don, it's just -- what the hell are we doing? if every red-blooded american isn't just p.o.'d right now, it's just wrong. >> there is something wrong with our society right now, and i wanted to continue my conversation with kim hammond. i was glad we were able to get together tonight. kim lives less than a block from the school, about half a block from the school. this is her street. a normal, everyday street in america not usually filled with media, satellite trucks, news vans, crews all over. kim, it's a pleasure to meet you. i wish it was under better circumstances. >> i do as well. i do as well. >> thank you. this is not normal for your street. >> no, not at all. no, it's very quiet.

normally very quiet. it's very quiet, actually. you hear the birds all day and the kids playing. >> i didn't realize you lived so close. >> yes. so from here there is the back of the school right there. so what i was saying -- >> can we walk out? >> sure. ilts a it's a little muddy. >> that's okay. >> you were on your patio? >> i was in the little room right there having lunch. i heard what sounded like gunfire, i sensed it, then maybe, i don't know, a hot dog later, maybe five minutes later, there was a helicopter right here, right up above us. the door on the helicopter was that big, so maybe 50 feet. i might be exaggerating how low it was, but it was low. normally when they fly over, they're not that low. i was out here cursing him out, why are you flying so low, that's just how my mind was

working. then i saw heads running, lots of heads running to the school. >> because you can see the school. >> i can see the school right there. that's where all the action was taking place. i saw all this commotion here, i saw border patrol right here where that guy just walked. then i went through the house and saw lots of shadows going through my house. the street was right there. just how you pick that up. then i went outside and looked up and the response was huge. it was huge, absolutely huge. what i couldn't get my brain to figure out was why were there civilian moms, they looked like moms with this panicked look and running. they were just like a dead sprint towards the school. that's when my brain started to say something is going on at the school. so i came in and got my phone and went to the facebook uvalde

police facebook page and saw there was a shooter at the uvalde robb elementary school. >> i cou i couldn't hear the gunshots at the time, because he might have already been in the school. i tried to videotape at 1:10 when there was one helicopter, and about 2:30, there was two helicopters. >> what did the gunfire sound like? >> i registered two pops, just like that. if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. this is a very small town, very small. >> you said you have a friend. >> jesse. >> what happened? >> his daughter died in it. i haven't been able to talk to him. we haven't been able to reach him. my friend group, we reached out to him, but we're giving him space. >> when you say you had reached

out to him and weren't able to get him -- >> after i saw him on the news, i just said, jesse, i'm so sorry, if there is anything i can do to help you, just let me know. i didn't get any response from him and i wasn't going to push it, like, hey, hey, hey, or anything. that was probably 10:30 here and 1:00 in the morning when i heard my phone go off. he said thank you. then i didn't hear from him all day. and i kept watching the local news to see if they found her. i texted him one more time saying, hey, just let me know if there is anything we can do. three minutes to noon yesterday, he just texted me, my daughter is dead. we were actually at dairy queen getting something cold because it was the first time we had been able to get out of here. it's beyond gut-wrenching and you just want to do everything

you can to help them. but the best thing i know right now, if it were me, i would just want space. i wouldn't want all of this up in my face. i would just like to get my baby buried and grieve so these guys can start the grieving process. >> is the world different? >> absolutely. >> how so? >> it's just as disgusting as it was but worse. honestly. i'm like that basketball player, nba coach. i am over it. i am over this. we have got to do something. if we don't stay angry about this, if we forget about this in 30 days because all the media is gone and it's not breaking news, we're failing. we are failing these kids. we are failing as a society. american values and morals are better than this. they are really better than this. and i know i got passionate in my interview with you, but i stand by that. i stand by that because i had no problems with