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we showed you this at the top of the broadcast. these are the names and teachers of the 19 children killed and the two teachers. the news continue with laura coates. >> thank you, anderson, capitol h chilling photographs. >> i have to be honest with you that i had a panic attack when i dropped off my son this morning. wondering which would be the pic picture or the moment, trying to explain what this boy may mean
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to me. i resented that they would have to. my nine-year-old son who's realizing now that children his own age were murdered inside their school. he's trying to process it all. he saw my own anxiety this morning and i felt guilty for causing a little bit of this. he said to me, "don't worry, mommy, i will be home tonight." these should not be promises any child should be made. you see i remember when mr. rogers trying to comfort kids like me when telling them when you see scary things, look for
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the helpers. look for the helpers. as far as we know, the helpers stood in the hallway and the helpers heard shots even after they believerd barricade and no a shooter. i am still going to look to these helpers but this time it will be for answers. we have questions that need to be answered. there are parents who buried their children today. the first full funerals are being held one by one after that attack that shaken this texas to its entire core and much of the nation along with it. the deep anguish we are feeling is not abating. i am going to spend much of this hour helping to apply that pressure. asking those questions that we
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just don't have answers to yet. because that's what the families of these 19 children and two teachers deserved. >> that's what survivors deserved. why can't they get these answers from the uvalde police, even one week later? why did it take so long to take down a mass murderer as children were begging for help. why did the police chief ordered his officers to hold off entering these classrooms. why won't that chief, pete arradondo answer the questions himself? he won't answer these questions from reporters. he won't answer them from a texas rangers. have not talked to them in two days. won't respond for a follow-up interview. why not?
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the 78 minutes to a time, this murder entered the school and when he was killed. the 19 officers inside robb elementary aware that there were 911 calls coming from children inside. did they know this call capturing one of those kids telling a dapispatcher, they go shot. >> what about this tape? the officer inside the school, do they know about this one? >> we have a child on the line, he's in a room full of victims. >> full of victims at this moment. so why were border patrol agents
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won't they go into act? why was it call a barricaded situation or instead of active shooter one? how so many valiantly. some saw the tower fallen and still charged in. the ones who run towards danger when the rest of us run away. the ones who know the risks of their own personal safety and take the risk any way. the ones we look for. the helpers. yet, 78 minutes of terror in uvalde. that number, 78 minutes, is more than many parents even get to
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spend with their children and the mournings before they're off to a school where they ought to be safe. 78 minutes, 21 lives gone. when will the answers come? what should happen now? someone experiencing a similar horror firsthand. chris van gelly, one o f the officers feist on the scene at sandy hook. 26 children and adults lost their life. he's now chief of police in connecticut. i am glad you are here, christopher. thank you for being here, chief. i am having a difficult time wrapping my mind around the fact that officers were on the premises and in the building and did not go into the classrooms. what is your reaction to that? >> good evening, laura, thank you for having me. >> as soon as i heard there was
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another shooting and this one is an elementary school, my heart s sank. it was a gut-punch and some of those feelings came back of the officers they were with me that day at sandy hook. when the initial report started to come out the officers and how they handled the call, i expected that. any time something like this happens, you are going of reporting coming out about the response. we need to hear that and what the police department response so we as law enforcement can learn from those situations. we can learn which they did well and any areas they did not do well. i can't wrap my head around how long they waited. i don't want to judge until we have the full facts. they should not have wait. this is an active shooter --
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> >> go ahead, chief. >> i can understand he may have stopped shooting for a while so they may decided he's not active shooter but once there is an active shooter and he shoots people and harms people, he's considered an active shooter until they are neutralized. the rule of thumb is always go in, you do not wait. we learned it from columbine and virginia tech and all the other shootings since. the one thing you do not want to do is sit there and wait and do nothing. your job is to go towards the gunfire to find that shooter to neutralize them and one or two things is going to happen. either you are going to go down or you lose your life as a law enforcement officer or the other person that's shooting going to go down, they'll be neutralized. that's the only two outcomes. >> you know both sides of columbine and being way present to the school and being called
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to the scene as well. we are learning a little bit and admittedly the problem in part is that we are getting piecemeal information. we don't have the full story here we are seven days later. the answer we are looking for is as to why people did not break rank. why were there so many people in the hallway listening to the person who was the commander in charge. were you surprise that no one broke rank or that's the way it would go, you got to wait until you are instructed before you can go in. >> i can understand one or two officers staying outside of the building, we saw that. but to have 19 people standing around and listening to one person. that's extremely strange and odd. the only word that comes to mind is -- i can't believe for the
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life of me that nobody broke rank or at least let's figure out a different plan. maybe we can go through a window or maybe we can have other types of equipment to get in there. even if you stop shooting, there are children in there bleeding. time is of the e sssence. it does not take long for that person to lose their life. he could have started any time, plus, there are people there that could have used medical attention. why they didn't go in? i have no idea. i am very interested to find out why. there was 19 people. one of them stood up the heck with this, i am going in. it does not make any sense to me. >> i am glad you mentioned the idea that those who needed care and assistance and medical treatment. i am wondering a map in particular aspect. the idea that was it known that
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people were indeed of medical care and in earlier in terventin could have served one life or two, any life, something that i hear you and season as you are and such experienced in this area and asking the same questions as to why. it really is something we have to know more about. chief, thank you so much for helping us to unpack it and ask those questions we need to hear. i want to dig into the police response and the shifting narrative coming out of this tragedy. i am wondering how are investigators are going to sort out the truth now. andrew mccabe and he's here now. i am glad that you are here. you heard me just speak to the chief of some of the questions we all have, why did it take so long? what's the law enforcement timeline we are dealing with
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here and why have we gotten answers? >> i ask your perspective of the idea of the barricade verses the active shooter. >> i don't understand why this distinction continue to be highlighted here. if it was a barricaded situation, what is the protocol? why the distinction? >> great question, laura. an active shooter where a situation you have someone shooting in the public space that's occupied by many people. that's clearly the situation we have here. a barricaded subject is when you have one person who's armed and blocked themselves off in a closed space and essentially resisting law enforcement. even in the barricaded subject situation which is not what we had in uvalde, if that person is holding hostages, you always have a tactical team present and ready to go in as soon as you
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sense that barricaded subject presents a threat to the hostages. even under that sort of thinking is in comprehensible that the leadership over in texas made the decision to hold that team of 19 men who are ready to go in. >> they are very different concept and law enforcement but in this case to be clear, what have was an active shooter and shows folks should have been sent in immediately. >> the second they heard shots later. while we are aware that shots had been fired later. >> it would go back to an active shooter again. it would not stay in that stagnant position of barricade if they now had active shooter happen. it seems counter intuitive to my, that would be the case. when we have all these changing narratives and when we don't
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know all the answers and i am inherently, naturally skeptical. the prosecutor in me, i have questions and doubts. i want to understand what's going on. as a mother, you have exponential level of skepticism happening right now. if you are looking at this, how do you try to unpack and investigate and get to the truth? >> there is as distress happening. walk us through how the investigation looks from here? >> i share all your skepticism. what investigators will do is focus on all those undisputable facts. things like the timeline and the video captured inside the school, the phone calls to 911 that happened at defensive time. maybe phone record between people who were involved in the
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incident incident. the dispatcher calls law enforcement folks on the scene. they'll add into that of the information they get from witnesses, whether thoesz are police officers or. the most critical information is from the actual child survivors. that's as you would understand as a mom incredibly sensitive thing to do to be able to sit down with some of those children and able to talk about their experiences and what they saw and what they said to each other, maybe if they made those 9 911 phone calls. you lay-in all of those information, the narrative that you get from those interviews on top of those undisputable facts that is help you frame up the timeline. much of that information sbiss, it is incredibly frustrated that we have not heard more in a clear and concise manner, so far. >> these are interviews that would perform as original ones
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and not relying on what was received from the invest figato thus far. it would be the individual content and looked at. >> that's right, they'll go back with fbi agents helping them and they'll reber view every one of those folks. the breasting thing here is you remember your time at doj, this is not a criminal investigation they are conducting. they won't have a process to really leverage people to force cooperation and production of information. you may have a situation with an individual like, for example, the chief arradondo refused to talk to the texas public department safety. if he continues to cooperate -- >> we'll have to see what happens next and that review is
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so crucial. thank you, andrew mccabe, i appreciate you talking to us this evening. this massacre put uvalde into the spot light. >> what's there to depart and the unspoken truth that exposes for countless towns across this country. that's next. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, ose resumes on indeed when you sponsor a job, match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. at adp, we use data-driven insights to design hr solutions to help you engage and retain top performers today, so you can have more success tomorrow.
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here today. you wrote a thought-provoking piece in "the washington post" about these concerns. what stroke me is that you said as much as you obviously are paying by what has happened. you were not surprised of the gun culture in uvalde. tell me a little bit more. of course, i understand you are not mine minot minimizing what d by not being surprise but the culture itself shook you. >> i was not surprised. as i watched the event unfold, i understood them and i knew it was a complex set of event. it was that tragedy and that deep sadness discover me to write the article.
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i was born in yauvalde. i lived there. my great grandmother settled in the uvalde and i grew up at my grandparent's ranch which i still on and i grew up hunting and fishing there. i understood the deep love in the community for those activities. it is still very important to the community and there is a strong gun culture there. when i was growing up, it was quite different. now, it is extremely different with weapons could be purchased. >> so to that extent, i was not surprised that this tragedy occurred. you had the social circumstances which would lead to these kinds of events, extremely high poverty rate and uvalde, one and three children living in
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poverty. there is just a total freedom of people in their ability to have guns. >> you have the most popular restaurant in town where this gunman apparently purchased his weapons. it is a restaurant with a gun store inside the restaurant. you have to understand people think that's normal and acceptable that you can have somebody walking in and buying military style tactical weapon. that's exactly what occurred. >> one could think about that notion though and on the one hand and say, look, it is so normalized and it is something that's so much apart of the pab g feedba fabric of the community that people don't expect for a violence to come. did the idea that this may happen. did that shock you and in spite
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of that presevalence and the gu and how much it was apart of the commun community? >> unfortunately, no. violence had always been extremely high in uvalde's history. from its beginning when it was founded and through the period during the 1920s. when the ku klux clan with the dominating politics there. >> until you have young boys recently times accused of going to his neighbor's house and shooting her in the face. this is the kind of thing that people become immune to and learn to accept and like you said, become a little mccorkell lis about that. >> dit dozen courage. the community is plagued with drug violence and as many cities in the united states, rural
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areas. there is a huge city, i think back to your segway into the program, i think it was very important that you are questioning what can actually happen on the ground and what happened in terms of the command at that usual minute. >> i think there are questions to be asked, much higher that goes to the chief of police. the police system is highly fragmented in uvalde. you only had six police officers covering for the school. you have a large police department. you have a sheriff department with elected sheriff and then you have the department of safety which is brought in by governor abbott. part of his loan star efforts and then you have the customs of border patrol. >> huge presence. >> that's why you saw there was a huge reaction of before she
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meant coming to the school and accounted for a lot of fragmentation and making process about when they'll go to school and rescue the children. >> we'll see if that fort fragmentation break the source. it breaks your heart of all the endties you just name. >> you still have two children a, thank you so much for your time. we'll continue and cover this important aspect and the broader picture as well. we got an ex clusive on the update that leaked , roe v. wad. that's next.
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with us now is the person behind this exclusive roeporting. joan, i am glad you are here. affidavits and private phones. this is not the court we remember. >> the chief justice wants this investigation into who may have leaked early copy of a decision that would overturn roe v. wade to politico. >> it was february 10th draft and the justices are working out which way they're going to go in this case. it is so disrupt activity. for people on both sides wondering it is going to be me. inside is obviously called all sorts of disruptions and the chief does not want to know who
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did this reeves. they been fworking for four wees to figure out how this happened. they have not gotten an answer yet which is why they escalated to start taking steps and have clerks sign affidavits that generally deny of any kinds of responsibility here. they have been asking about cell phone data. we are not sure whether ma means phone call or text? >> but, it concerns law clirks enough that they maybe are getting lawyers. >> this is the early stage and we are not sure what the court is going to do. it makes suggest of the tension that's already surrounding these cases are now dpoingoing to be exacerbated because of this
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investigation. >> you are in washington, d.c., you hit 42 lawyers. there is no shortage of lawyers to be in washington, d.c. >> i am wondering. you and what army? >> who's aimable to compel this. >> you are asking me for my phone as a supreme court justice, we have to situate for the department of justice, forcing me to hand everything over. >> this is a criminal investigation. >> i should make it very clear. the justices having called in fbi and department of justice, and this is something they're trying to sell certinternally. >> you hear her every team she listens to oral argument.
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>> tbroad scale personnel or cel phone data. i am not sure how this is going to be conducted. i want to make it clear to our viewers that everynthough part the investigation are focused on law clerks, there many of people who could be responsible for the disclosure that ends up with politico. that first draft by samuel aledo went to nine justices and other administrative people, probably a total of 75 votes. there were hard copies circulated in the chambers. >> and somebody may have brought one home. >> the possibility of how this could have gotten out of the building and into the wrong hand so to speak are endless. >> i think this is a sign that they are just have not made head lays to know they're closing in on everyone. >> there could be a potential
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that may be targeted some clerk. >> they want all the clerk to follow through, here, laura. >> there is a lot we don't know. i know there is a big focus for row verse wait being over turned. >> there is still a great deal of opinion to be issued at the police report. it bmust be impacts. the ramifications could be extensive for years to come. thank you so much, i appreciate your insights as always. >> thank you, laura. now the question of course, is how is your bank account look add these days? >> we'll look at president biden's new message. what janet yellen says she was wrong about when it comes to inflation. >> that's next. should be something that gets you hyped up. and that your new car ought to come with newfound happiness and zero surprises.
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a face-to-face between the president and the fed chair today. it also includes this admission from the former chair and current treasury secretary in a cnn interview. >> well, look, i think i was wrong then about the path of inflation would take. as i mentioned there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks. affected our economy badly. >> i at the time didn't fully
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understand. >> janet yellen noted on the prices going up on everything. >> katherine, it is a little dispushing to hear someone like janet yellen saying she got it wrong. >> how did she not know? >> look, if ja janet yellen. >> she's not alone. if you look back at what the peds kwus forecasting and what wall street economists were predicting. >> omost of them with loud exceptions may expect we have a shortstop top of -- it would be transitory and it will come back down. >> that did not happen and as the year we are on last year.
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it became more and more evident that many of the assumption were much too optimistic. >> as the treasury secoretary, the me things like the war in ukraine, disrupting energy and food markets and avian flew. that's affecting prices right now. china continues to have these lockdowns more than two years after this pandemic first hit the world. >> so, some of it was about overly optimistic assumptions made a year ago. not only by the treasure but by most economists. some are getting really unkentucky in the couple of years that have followed the
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pandemic. >> well, i have appreciate cancer when it comes to any officials. >> i do appreciate it, we biened with what you are going to do about it. >> let's go there, katherine. >> the question now is what can the administration do about it? >> you got it wrong. >> all the different things you smoke about. can the biden administration do anything about this? >> the actual -- they have the most potent tools available to get prices back under control. control may be the wong word. >> to get inflation, more moderate. that's raising interest rates. there are however some modest tools, that the president does have at his disposal to get prices down a little bit on the
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margin. >> these are things like the trump trump's eterrance. in fact, it has extended many of them in some form or noog. >> we have these wife spread inflation shortages. >> our immigration system is backed up. again, that pregate to some extent, the turnt president, that's because choices made to tabtize the system by donald trump. the administration have been dragging its feet and fixing my of those problems. it only had been dealing with low hanging fruits the. >> there are some tools available that the administration for some reason, i think they are afraid of
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"top gun" hitting the record of the biggest memorial day weekend, opening day. it earned $160 million along with grave reviews. a great weekend for the movies may be a sign of higher spirits in the country or just plain, old escapism. who would have tauhought we wou see packed theaters again? >> let's talk to paul, si am so glad you here. i have to ask you, there was a time people thought the movies were done. streaming was dpoigoing to take
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over. >> what you say it tell you? >> the m theater is very resilient. >> video revolution and tropical storm hermining. non. >> and, yet the movie theater came back this weengkend in a b way. this is a long time coming, laura. a couple of years ago, the entire summer movie season, did not even earn $200 million. >> normally it earns $4 billion. >> this is a big moment formuvee cheaters. >> unbelievable that we are right here right now. >> it is not like top gun was out 12 years ago. we are talking about tdecades. >> we also quote the need for speed. i want to question about why meg ryan was not in it?
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but i will ask this question about the idea of why didn't he decide to make sure that to wait two more years. that tend to be a rel big decision. >> it certain ly did. >> no way tom ted cruz was going to let tom gun math relative to stream it. there is something about tom cr cruise. the movie theater and we the audience made come cruise a star. >> he participates it back everyday. >> hanging outside of airplanes and jets and helicopter. really nothing this guy can't do. you can tell his enthusiasm. he's got another movie dead reckoning, mission impossible. >> there will be another mission i am to believe. >> impossible.
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>> it is funny, just thinking about tom ted cruz's career. you are talking about from the firm to risky business, of course. >> for film and ethan hops. all these different films, we are think about it. >> this one surpassed all of those. >> that's right. >> in terms of the opening weekend. tom truce never had $100 million opening weekend until now. with top gun maverick. >> the o'sest one to this opening was for the war, 17 years ago with 64 pay and $8 million. >> that was 17 years ago? are you kidding? >> i was thinking that was 13 years ago, i guess it was.
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>> he's about consistency, tom ted cruz had movies released in 40 years. worldwide his movies are brought in this film about $0.5 billion unadjusted for inflation. >> clearly. >> are these. are these the ip mow that member top gun. >> is he bringing a whole new fan chase base right now. >> i like say who saw the first movie. >>. i would argue these pilots ensemble, they are super heroes. this is very old fashion story telling. >> laura, i can't believe you
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have not seen this movie. it is so much phone. >> don't you have fomo. >> people are seeing it two or three times. >> tell the people who did that to come babysit my kids, paul. i was with them. >> thank you very much. >> i can't wait to see it. thank you. that's it. no sales s. no wasted time. just, straight up great cars. right from your phone to your driveway. go to vroom.com and pick your favorite. wooo. oh yeah, she digs it. buy your car on vroom.com vroom. get in.
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