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themselves and predict that things are going to be normal but we have heard something to the effect of it's going to take a couple more months before parents feel like across the country that things are back to normal. that they can go to the store and they see there is formula back on the shelves, but again this is going to be a situation that will take a while to resolve itself.>> mj, thank you very much. and thank you very much for watching, in the situation room, erin burnett starts right now. upfront, next, new details about the new response to the elementary school massacre, what he is saying tonight, plus ukraine's president says they are losing 6100 -- 60 to 100 soldiers per day, as we are getting new satellite images that reveal exactly where vladimir putin's forces are digging into night. brace yourself, jamie diamond is warning that the
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state is going to be hit by an economic hurricane. out front tonight, the breaking news, the mayor revolving releasing new details about the texas school massacre, there was a negotiator trying to reach the gunmen on the shown in the crucial next piece of information he shared with the post is that he doesn't believe the negotiator knew that there were children alive, calling 911 while the negotiator was trying to reach the gun man, but failed to do so according to the mayor. we learned those children called again and again, as 19 police officers were inside their school, outside the classroom choosing not to go in. tonight the police chief and incident commander in charge of the response team told us that he's not dodging investigators. >> i have been on the phone
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with him every day. >> they are saying you are not cooperating. >> just so you know, we have been talking every day. >> what is your reaction, sir? >> reporter: as we reported yesterday, the texas department of public safety says he has not responded to a request for a follow-up interview with investigators. obviously very different than what he is portraying there. in the eight days since the shooting, officials have faced withering criticism. over the information they released from the investigation and how they handled themselves of course that day but the information they put out a contract on them. for example, remember the claim that the school resource officer engaged the shooter outside, and then came out and said that never happened. yesterday they said there was not a door open, no door was propped open and the gunmen entered the building. they said there was a door open, that is how he got in. the false information that has been released has added to the
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incredible frustration and anger in uvalde. today, they said their final goodbyes to two more victims of the shooting. 10-year-old, josc florez junior and teacher garcia, we are outside in uvalde, texas. what is the latest tonight? >> reporter: among what we are hearing from the mayors interview, at least part of it with a local station is if we made mistakes, we will own them, that is what is being investigated at this point, and the uvalde county district attorney says she is going to be reviewing the ongoing texas rangers report, and decide if charges will need to be brought in this situation, of course tied to the delayed law enforcement response, and also they will be looking at some of those key decisions that investigators say were made by the school district police chief. captured by cameras for the first time in nearly a week,
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uvalde police chief, greeting officer standing guard outside his home. >> we have people in our community being buried, so we want to be respectful. >> reporter: deflecting questions from cnn about the decisions on the day of the shootings. >> we are being very respectful to the families. >> reporter: but when asked when -- >> we are going to do that eventually, whenever this is done, they will do that obviously. just so everybody knows, we made contact with them every day, every day. >> they say you are not cooperating. >> reporter: during a city council, they talked about how communication was crucial. >> i think communication can resolve any issue. >> reporter: however tuesday he was quietly sworn into his city council seat, when cnn
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questioned secrecy, he called the meeting a private thing, that was done out of respect for grieving families. we are also learning new details about the chiefs active shooter training, showing he has had three training sessions total, the last taking place in december 2021 and the uvalde school district releasing a statement today about changes saying that students and staff will not be returning to the robb elementary campus, and they are identifying improvements on all campuses. new audio obtained by cnn affiliate plays a school district alert to parents about the shooting, telling them not to go to the campus. >> there is an active shooter at robb elementary , law enforcement is on-site. >> reporter: today, more funerals for teacher garcia and her husband, who is a -- josc, who died of a heart attack just
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days after his wife was gunned down. a local store employee whose cousin was killed, a fast food employee whose niece was killed, and another person who was not too far from here threw up going to robb rob elementary, and decades before, calling 911. all of them were too heartbroken to go on camera being that close to the story, but one thing we heard from every single one of them was that this goes beyond this week, this is something that is going to be with them for the rest of their lives. the community grieving and frustrated, now with more services to come, every day for the next week. >> i leave it to them, why didn't he do more? why didn't he do more?
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>> reporter: and again, exactly what was done is among what is under investigation, we followed up with the texas department of public safety on his comments, that has been in contact with them everyday despite them saying yesterday that they haven't heard from him in days in regards to a follow-up interview request. dps is referring all of these questions to the uvalde county district attorney, all of this is happening within the backdrop of continuing funerals, continuing reminders of the gravity of the tragedy that unfolded here. thank you. and as you were speaking, we did have some breaking news coming out of oklahoma where police say multiple people have been injured. we are following this story in a shooting, we understand could be obviously multiple casualties, it is unclear, what do we know right now as this is developing? again, this is in tulsa. >> very limited information, what we know is that tulsa police have tweeted a bit of information to give to people, at least some clarity of this.
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the first thing authority say is that this began with what they say was a report of a man with a rifle, and located in the city of tulsa, at 61st and yale street, all roads are closed, they asked people not to come in the area. they also indicated that they know there are multiple injuries as a result of this, and potentially they say multiple casualties and probably the only other information we have directly from the police department again from their twitter page is that they have set up a reunification site at high school, memorial high school in tulsa. so this is a continuing situation, it sounds extremely serious at this stage, we don't have a lot of details but it is clear also from what the police are telling us that the individual who is believed to have shown up with a rifle and
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caused the situation is down and now believed dead. so those are the facts we start with this evening out of tulsa. back to you. we will be checking in with you, obviously the situation is unfolding. i want to bring in the former houston police chief, charles mcclelland into the conversation, horribly, we need to start talking about another shooting, which just has occurred in the past few moments, as we understand it in tulsa. the other thing the police department is saying is that officers are currently going through every room of the building, checking for additional threats and obviously at this point unable to determine the number of injuries, they are saying potentially multiple casualties. what is your reaction when you are hearing this x when we are sitting here talking about this horrific tragedy in texas and
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this is going on in tulsa as we speak. >> well, thank you for having me. first of all, until we decide to do something about gun violence, unfortunately these things are going to continue over and over again in different states and cities across america. so, as a society, and as a community, we have to get serious about gun violence. >> and as i said, we are monitoring this and keeping it up on the screen as we are speaking. obviously a massive police response in tulsa, as we understand the shooter is dead, we don't know how but the shooter is dead and we are awaiting information on injuries and as they said potentially multiple casualties. i'm going to keep this up as we continue our conversation. i want to ask you about something in uvalde, new news from the interview the mayor gave, he was near the negotiator during the incident. he was trying to reach the gunmen. and, in that situation, you would think the negotiator would need to new no crucial
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pieces of information. he did not know there were children in the room with the gunmen at the time calling 911, the negotiator was not aware of that fact. what do you make of that, chief? >> well, from everything that i have heard, i can certainly understand if folks in that local community have really no confidence in the police response and the investigation. it seems like every single day the facts seem to change or something is modified. it is understandable if police officials, city officials don't have the answer to a question. i think the public understands when you don't know and you are trying to do an investigation to find out, but it seems like a lot of finger-pointing is going on between local officials, state officials, and that undermines the confidence that the public will have in this investigation. and it's not fair to the
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families that lost their children, their loved ones, it's not fair, they deserve accurate information. and i hope this is not the case, that you have local authorities and state officials trying to protect their own respective agencies and point the finger at each other. and it may become that our only objective reviewing the investigation has come from the justice bureau. >> so, as a part of this, the uvalde police chief , i don't know if you saw it at the beginning of the program, but our reporter spoke to him and said, are you cooperating with the texas department of public safety? he said yes, he is speaking to them everyday but they say he has not responded to repeated
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requests to a follow-up interview. so you have two completely different versions here. it's very hard to have any confidence in it. he says he is cooperating and they say he isn't. obviously it would appear he isn't in that case, but what do you make of that?>> well, again, who do you believe? do you believe the police chief, or do you believe the texas rangers? now in this situation, both things could be true, he could be speaking with them every day, that doesn't mean he is being cooperative and answering their questions and giving them vital information. but, at this stage, i think the public doesn't know who to believe. so the justice department needs to move in fast and do a thorough and objective investigation of everyone, they need to certainly review the uvalde independent school district's role , the city of
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uvalde's police departments rule, the department of public safety's role and let the two fall where they may. if somebody made mistakes and made the wrong decision, then people have to take responsibility for that. >> i appreciate your time, thank you very much. >> thank you so much for having me.>> formerly from the houston police department, as we continue to monitor this story out of tulsa for you right now, we are waiting for the tulsa police department. as you can see, on the ground as to what the situation was, multiple injuries and possibly multiple casualties. we are going to take a break, on the other side, we will give you the latest on ukraine where russia occupies 80% of a crucial eastern city. the sobering view on ukraine's likely chance of winning back that territory. plus, president biden's mission and what he knew about the baby
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we are hearing there are multiple dead. >> we do not know the numbers but we do know that according to a fire department official named andy liddell, there are multiple people dead at the scene, and the investigation continues, we are also told as we reported earlier that we understand the shooter is down and believed dead. this is happening, we are told, in a place called the natalie medical building on the st. francis hospital campus in tulsa . as you can see, apparently an intense situation as police continue to evacuate what sounds like a very large building, potentially hundreds of people need to be evacuated from that building before police can call the scene clear and secure. of course in a
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situation like this, which is so fluid, there's always a concern with authorities as to whether the person they believe to be the shooter is the only person they need to worry about. so that is what we know at this stage. back to you. >> and of course as you point out, hundreds of people in the building, that is why there is still such a lack of clarity of the scale of what we are talking about here. i understand from local reporters, it is an outpatient surgery and breast center, so those are the types of medical things that could be happening there. thank you very much. and i will just say here, we are able to report our senior producer spoke to tulsa police department, they are still going through all the floors in the building, that is why they
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are unable to give a number, that is what they are doing right now and the active shooter is down so they will expect a press conference as they get more information as they continue to follow this story. we are following the developments in ukraine, russian forces are now in control of at least 80% of a key portion east city, some ukrainian troops have deported. the u.s. sends this message to vladimir putin. >> the russians can end this conflict anytime they want, if they are weary of escalation, all it takes is one man to say stop. and they can do it.>> melissa bell is out front in ukraine, so what we are seeing, it is progress by the russians, it may come at a slow and agonizing pace, that is a city
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that they wanted to occupy and they made progress in that regards, it shows putin has no plans at all to stop the war. >> reporter: no plans at all to stop the war, and tonight as far as ukrainian armed forces are concerned, the upper hand frankly all along the front line, but start with the subject of so much fierce fighting, and there was some 15,000 civilians carrying the sellers of that city, of course the last couple weeks 80% is now street to street combat going on. let's have a look at that map of the donbas region, to look at the strategic importance of that city, you can see the two self-declared moscow backed separatist republics that have been there before the russian invasion began. look at all that territory and read to the north and south, now in russian hands. if you pull back from that to take a further step back and
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look at all the territory in russian hands tonight, you can see how vulnerable the easternmost positions of the part of the country, what we have been seeing over the course of the day are weapons coming up from kreminna and we expect heading up to vulnerable parts of eastern ukraine and cutting off some of their vulnerable supply. so a worrying picture from the point of view of ukrainian armed forces, from where i am, we are just north of that line that divides ukraine, and ukraine now in the hands of russian forces. we have been seeing the villages within a 30 and 60 mile range been pounded with russian artillery, that is why those weapons are being provided by washington, confirmed by secretary of state, antony blinken, r going to make such a difference to the war, and their ability to push back on russian forces. the united kingdom announcing they will be providing some of those long-range missiles to hit that long-range artillery that is used to such
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devastating effect these last few months here in ukraine. >> thank you very much, reporting tonight, they want to go to the retired air force colonel, the director of the international security program at the center for strategic and international studies. seth, you are out with a new report with images and satellite imagery you are seeing now on the latest situation on the ground in ukraine. what are you seeing? >> reporter: we are seeing a couple of things, one is that we are seeing doug in russian forces with made battle tanks, toad artillery, multiple rocket systems, and the issue here is this is going to be really tough over the long run for the ukrainians to take back territory against russian forces. this is why the discussions about apparently the u.s. is now going to allow mq1c's,
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these are longer-range drones to go to ukraine as well, these are going to be really important for offensive operations to help the ukrainians take back this territory because the russians are advancing as we just heard. >> they are advancing in a brutal and anachronistic manner but nonetheless advancing. colonel, i was taking talking with a ukrainian folder today, they are going back to the front lines. incredibly eager as his entire group was to go back in. from that one tiny slice, their morale is to go back in and they are ready to go. but, president zelenskyy says hundreds are dying and being hurt per day. how long can ukraine continue to fight at this level with those types of losses? >> reporter: that is a really difficult and telling question to answer, when you look at the
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way in which this is happening, i would say at the outset, it's very hard to make these estimates but i would say they can last about a month or two months at most before there starts to be a major drain on the ukrainian forces. the ukrainians have to be very careful not to lose their men at this point, it becomes really critical for their soldiers to be in essence conserved and for them to move back in a very strategic retreat at this point in order to fight another day. >> so, when you heard melissa talking about the russians sending equipment up from kreminna, this is the crucial thing talking about mariupol. so you have satellite images near kreminna that show the russian forces trenched in ukraine, they can move rocket launchers, self-propelled artillery, that is what you pointed out on the satellite images that you see. what do you take away from
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that? >> reporter: the russians are here to stay and they are not going to give up this area without a significant fight, as we see them digging up trenches. what is not in there but just as important that we are still seeing with images is russian flags, replacing ukrainian buildings. we are seeing the russians replaced ukrainian officials, government officials. this is de facto russian state building of areas that they now have conquered in ukraine. so this really is an annexation without the russians saying it explicitly it. i don't think they are planning to leave in any way, shape, or form. >> and back to the speech that vladimir putin gave on the day before the invasion, this is what he said and he is now pushing for it. president biden says the u.s. in response is going to send ukraine a high mobility artillery rockets, four of them. originally he said the united states wouldn't send anything that could hit russia, now they
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are trying to say basically not the long ones, not the short ones, but the in between. it is putting the u.s. in a rather bizarre situation, leading to officials saying this. >> the ukrainians have given us assurances that they will not use these systems against targets on russian territory. this particular insurance goes all the way tufted top to the ukrainian government, to include president zelenskyy. >> what do you make of this? ukraine has been invaded by russia and ukraine will do whatever he needs to do to try to push back. what do you make of the situation? >> i think this is one of those things where the political doublespeak gets to be quite a problem for the administration and for everybody dealing with this. what the ukrainians are going to do, they are going to do
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what they need to do, they should be getting these weapons, they have every right to defend themselves. defending themselves means going after any weapon system that targets their country and if that weapon systems happens to sit in russia, then they should go after that weapons system. that would be the military answer to that question. >> they have shown willingness to go after field depots and things that supply russia. given the dire situation, it does seem to be a bit of doublespeak. thank you very much. next, we are continuing to follow the breaking news out of tulsa, officials telling our affiliate that they know at least four people are dead, including the gunman at that shooting at the hospital, they are going room after room as we understand it in that large building, st. francis hospital in tulsa. we are going to bring you the very latest. plus, jamie diamond ahead of the largest bank in america says the united states is about to be hit by an economic hurricane. just how worried should americans and the world be??
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from j.p. morgan chase ceo, jamie dimon. the country is about to be hit by an economic hurricane, that is driven by the war in ukraine, interest rates by the feds and of course the 40 year high inflation. the inflation prices are hurting american savings. upfront now, the chief investment strategist to charles schwab, i know you have been speaking about that specific issue, and i want to ask you about that but i know you also believe we are in the midst of an economic storm, how bad could it get?>> so whether or not it turns into a hurricane is yet to be seen, there are certainly a lot of weather analogies out there, but you mentioned it, we are at a 40 year high inflation, at a time when growth already slowed
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, the fed is in a pretty aggressive mode in order to combat that inflation problem and of course they are starting to shrink the balance sheet, so we really haven't been in this combined set of circumstances here, the question is, can the fed do the job of tackling this problem by focusing on the demand side of the economy because that is all they can really control. they can't ease the supply chain problems without it ultimately leading to a problem. >> you talked specifically about this issue of the collapse in personal savings, and this is so crucial, which caught my attention, this showed the drop in american savings to 4.4% of their income. your message, goodbye to the savings boom and this was a crisis in savings, at the beginning of the great recession. this is crucial. this is showing i suppose on one level that when you have a 40 year high in inflation, it
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eats away at earnings, it eats away at people's savings, it is having a very specific and serious impact.>> it is, and i think the big debate right now is the rate of savings matter, the 4.4%, and as you said, or is it the stock of savings, and there's still a buildup in their savings that came as a result of all the stimulus. unfortunately, i think it's the flow, the rate of change that has come down that matters. but importantly, i also don't think this is 2008, yes the savings have dropped at that point, that is when we were in the midst of the mousing housing bubble, because of poor lending practices have the effect of taking down the entire global financial system with it. i think there are dislocations in the economy right now, and we are seeing a slow in growth, but this is not a literal or figurative house of cards like
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the case in 2008. that distinction is important. >> thank you very much, i always appreciate speaking with you. part of the reason the savings rate has dropped of course is that people are spending more, they are resorting to going to savings because the costs are surging. the average price of gas is something that americans are confronted with everything all day. and it jumped 5 cents to hit another record high of $4.67 per gallon, that is nationwide, god forbid you live in california, it has the white house worried, according to politico, the chief of staff checks the price of gas every single day. this is so visible to everybody because they see gas stations and they see the price in their face. the lead strategist on the 1992 presidential campaign, here we are, gas prices confronting americans every single day, people are paying twice as much to fill up their tanks as they were a year ago. if you are advising the white
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house, what would you tell them to do?>> well, i'm glad that he does that every morning, that is a pretty important number, i will tell you who is not facing this, exxon and shell, and the problem is, one of the things we can do is tax profits and return it to consumers, i don't think the president can do about about the rising gas prices, this is not natural, this system is being gamed, they know it in the uk. the democrats know it in the united states, and the bill passed the house and is handed to the senate, i hope they get some relief. >> i understand what you are saying, from a political perspective, i'm not saying you are wrong, but it is also happening for a real reason.
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russia has been able to give transfer payments to russia and put off some of the impact of the sanctions because they are getting so much more money. the raw cost of the stuff has gone up and that is at the core of this.>> it is, but it's also, again, don't discount people that have something to do with it, and yes, russia is making high energy prices, it is hurting them in the middle east, this is something that is happening but the presidents toolbox is pretty empty here to do something. but one of the things you can do is try to get some money back into consumers hands, there are states that are talking about doing that and i think that's a good idea. of course it is a problem, i would be looking at the gas prices first thing in the
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morning, too. at least somebody is diligently watching.>> one thing president biden said, he spoke the truth, but i'm curious to your perspective, when he talks about this hit coming to americans, he says there's really not much you can do. here is how he put it. >> the idea we are going to be able to click a switch, bring down the cost of gasoline is not likely in the near term, nor is it with regard to food. >> is that the way he should be speaking about it? is it aggressive enough or do you think he gets it right? >> i think he gives a pretty aggressive remarks and he was pretty specific, it was in the wall street journal, and he is telling people the plan, well if inflation is 8% in november, we are going to lose a lot of seats. but you know what you've got to look at is think about a horse race and you have the cpi and wage growth, hopefully by october or so, wage growth will pull ahead of the cpi and people will feel some progress
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in the economy. and if they do, the president pointed to the fact that in may , he wrote a piece in the wall street journal outlining some of the things he wanted to do. so he is betting into the fact that there may be good news, and let's hold onto it, but that is the two numbers i'm looking at and i suspect a lot of people are looking at that cpi number and looking at the wage growth number. we will see some numbers friday and i will be up early and clicking to see what is happening like anybody else. >> i always appreciate it, thank you for taking the time. and the white house tonight also grappling with the ongoing baby formula shortage and the crisis there, struggling to explain why it was so woefully unprepared. when you look at who produces it and all of a sudden the factory shuts down and babies need food, you know you have a problem. president biden conceded he did not know that the plant would impact supplies in the way that
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it did. here is how he responded. >> i don't think anyone anticipated the impact of the shutdown of one facility. >> they just told you they understood it would have a very big impact. >> they did, but i didn't.>> caitlin collins is out front at the white house, pretty stunning admission for the president to make, the white house said they have been working on the formula shortage since february, which means they knew it was a problem but he is saying the company knew about it but he did not. how did the president explain the timeline today? >> reporter: yes, and this whole government approach they have been taking since february when the plant was shuttered but obviously that approach did
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not include president biden because he was talking about this today, he was just meeting with the top five baby formula manufacturers, talking about this crisis, and he was asking each of them individually if they understood what kind of an impact the closure of this plant back in mid february was going to have. i was in the room, we listened time and time again with several of them, they said they did understand it was going to have a very big impact but of course the formula concentration in the united states is so small, only a handful of manufacturers and retailers that deal with the distribution. we asked the president, when was that he became aware of just how serious this shortage was going to be? and this is what he told us. >> i became aware of this problem sometime after april, in early april by how intense it was. so we did everything in our power from that point on and that's all i can tell you right now. >> reporter: of course that is about six weeks after that complaint, the executive said as soon as the plant was closed, that was months after
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complaints had come forward about the plant, it was of course lawmakers said how the plant was handled and they should have foreseen what kind of issues this was going to cause. that has been a big question for the white house, why nobody on the president's senior staff informed him of just how bad the shortage was earlier than early april. you can see the white house taking steps since then but there are still questions. and of course it is still an ongoing issue for the white house, the president said they are putting the full force of the government behind this major problem.>> much later than it should have been, and i'm sure than what he wanted it to be. thank you very much. next, we are continuing to follow the breaking developments out of tulsa, police are confirming three people were killed on the campus of st. francis hospital, the gunmen additionally is dead, we are going to bring you the latest next as it develops,
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we are following breaking news out of tulsa, oklahoma where police are confirming that the people have been killed during the shooting at a hospital in tulsa, the gun man is also dead. they were going room to room in a very large building as a part of a medical center so it's unclear exactly where they are in that process. joe johns is following the story for us. >> reporter: this is, we are told, the st. francis hospital campus, a building, a very large building there and bringing up-to-date just what you said, three people reported dead according to the authorities, four if you include the shooter. we are also told by authorities that a person has been taken from the scene in critical condition and we don't know the disposition on that just yet. we also know that authorities are engaged in what they refer to as a slow evacuation of that
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very large building, essentially going room to room to check to see the welfare of people and get them out of that building in an orderly fashion. no other details from the authorities at this time but the shooter is dead, the authorities say, three people have been killed, one person reported in critical condition. thank you very much. we do have councilman, thank you very much for coming onto share what you do know. i know the situation is still very much influx. you have been getting briefed. what have you learned so far? >> this is adjacent to the hospital. and, kind of reconfirmed what you just hear with the audience
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is that three people are known dead. the shooter is also dead. it looks like what we are getting is the shooter took his own life. first and foremost, our thoughts and prayers go out to the families, the victims and it is a tragic thing. the police here have been prepared. they actually had exercises in the division yesterday and just like this situation. >> hopefully, that helps save some lives today. councilman, i don't know if you heard, in addition to the three people killed by the shooter as we understand there is a person in critical condition. i know the police department says there were multiple
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injured. do you know anything about the injured situation? >> i do not. the tulsa police department in doing the right thing kept everyone bystanders away from the scene. they have done a good job, making sure that the scene is safe and people are not in harm's way. >> i should note that president biden is now been briefed of the situation. councilman, do you have any knowledge from your briefings about what may have led to the shooting? >> from what i understand is the shooter had an issue with a specific position and the shooter could not find this position. that solicited, you know, his behavior of the shootings.
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>> needless and terrible loss of life. councilman fowler, i appreciate your time. as we appreciate to follow this breaking story out of tulsa. we'll take a break on the other side. the hearing for johnny depp against his ex-wife. the actorsrs both responding tonight. the world is full of make or break moments. especially if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture,
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tonight a verdict has been reached between amber heard and johnny depp. seven members found depp were defamed. depp was ordered to pay her $2 million in damages and heard pays $7 billion to depp. >> reporter: a jury ruled in favor of johnny depp. >> do you find that mr. depp proven all the elements of defamation? answer, yes. >> re
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>> do you find miss heard proven all the elements of defamation? answer, yes. >> reporter: the former couple facing off. >> nothing i did made him stop hitting me. nothing. >> i have never, in my life committed sexual battery, physical abuse. >> reporter: at the center of the trial, abuse allegation heard made in the 2018 washington post op-ed. he sued his ex-wife for defamation, claiming a $50 million suit that his career suffered as a result. h her countersuit $150 million. both testified their
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relationship became violent and abusive overtime. leading her to file a temporary restraining order against depp in 2016. >> she through a large bottle and it made contact and shattered everywhere. then i looked down and realized that the tip of my finger had been severed. >> i felt this pressure. i felt this pressure. that he was punching me. >> reporter: the testimony was not all he said, she said. with recording of fights and photos of alleged injuries. >> by this point of our
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relationship, we are saying awful things to each other. >> reporter: on the stand, depp denied abusing heard. >> i never did i reach to a point of striking miss heard in any way nor did i ever struck anyone in any life. >> reporter: witnesses for both depp and heard gave emotional testimonies about what they saw and testified about their relationship. >> they engaged in what i saw mutual abuse. >> reporter: depp was not in court to hear the verdict. he was seen performing in london on monday night. >> reporter: amber heard is saying tonight she will appeal this verdict. erin, this was a very big win for johnny depp. he brought this action, he had the burden to show that he was
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defamed. it was all about the credibility of amber heard. she testified for hours and the jury watched everything and they decided. >> of course, his lost earnings were significant. >> all right, we'll see what happens from here. jean casares, thank you very much. thank you so much to all of you, "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. we have breaking news tonight in tulsa. what do we know so far? >> reporter: what we do know at least according to the authorities so far is that three people have been reported dead as a result of the shooting of fourth, if you include the shooter himself.
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