defamed. it was all about the credibility of amber heard. she testified for hours and the jury watched everything and they decided. >> of course, his lost earnings were significant. >> all right, we'll see what happens from here. jean casares, thank you very much. thank you so much to all of you, "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. we have breaking news tonight in tulsa. what do we know so far? >> reporter: what we do know at least according to the authorities so far is that three people have been reported dead as a result of the shooting of fourth, if you include the shooter himself.

we are told by authorities that one person was taken from the hospital in critical condition. this initially went out according to authorities as a report of a man with a rifle and escalated in an act of shooter situation at the st. francis hospital campus and what is referred to a large building. authorities had to go door-to-door in that building and removed people and what they were referring to a slow evacuation. not a lot of additional details. first, authorities calling it catastrophic scene. we don't know any more details why they would be referring it in that way. what we do know at this time is three dead and four, including the shooter and one person reported in critical condition. anderson. >> do we know anything of the medical complex and where the shooting took place?

and information of how the person able to get inside? >> not a lot of information from the authorities about that. other than it is certainly apart of the community and you have the hospital and you also have the building apparently where all of this occurred. there was one report that authorities shared indicating that this individual may have gone to this location specifically looking for a doctor. we don't know who that doctor is or the doctor's whereabouts at this time, anderson. >> the police spokesperson says the building being checked and evacuated floor by floor. do we know how long that took and how many rooms we are talking about? >> authorities did not give us time. they did ask everyone to be patience because it is a large building and they did have to go door-to-door in this s slow evacuation. that suggest could take a while. >> we should point out these are

early reports as we know can often be wrong. joe, is there anything that's known about the condition of the wounded person? >> other than critical condition and certainly your warning there about this being early information is something that i have to pass along also because we don't know whether, for example, that person who was listed in critical condition is now included as part of the fatalities or not. what authorities told us is tha the shooter and one person critical taken from the hospital. >> is it clear anything about the people who were killed whether they were intended targets related to this doctor, if this person was searching for a particular medical -- certain medical personnel? >> no, that's interesting also.

it is not clear at all. what we know though at least from a member of the city council in tulsa who appeared on our air in the previous program. there is some indication this individual after he completed the shooting, went ahead and shot and killed himself. >> we'll talk to that member of city council. we are expected to hear from local authorities 8:15. with is by phone right now is counselor fowler. thank you for being with us and story under these circumstances. what have you learned from this incident? >> this is anderson cooper, you are on the air. just want an update of what you have learned about this incident. >> here is what is we have known so far. an active shooter was in the building, at the saint francis

hospital. a physician specialty building. what we are getting from the sources that there was an active shooter in there looking for a physician and they were not able to find that physician and three innocent people in that building have been shot and we are taking up information also that there may have been another person wounded. obviously, our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of that shooter. the shooter did take his own life and we do know that. tulsa police department, the riverside division actually prepared, they did training yesterday for just this

situat situation. they have been prepared for just this. it could have been possibly wors worse, nonetheless, this is just very tragic. >> can you tell me about what you know about the facility and where this occurred? it is not inside the hospital, it is relatively assessable. >> it is not inside the hospital. it is a biluilding adjacent to . francis hospital. there is a walk way from the hospital to the building. the building is approximately, maybe 9 or 11 stories high. it is where special practices are located. physicians that served the hospital -- it is there on the

campus. >> okay, councilor fowler. we appreciate the information. turning now to uvalde, texas, after more than a week of politicians giving out false information and invasive answer to direct questions and now trying to hide from reporters. as you know steven mcgraw finally gave out hard facts, revealing how police on the scene in the school were ordered to standby and had to listen as the gunman continued to shoot inside that classroom. not just when the gunman first entered but at 11:37 and again at 11:38 and 11:44 a.m.

as the minutes ticked by, we know police were in the hallway, outside the classroom, listening and waiting because according to colonel mcgraw, the commander waiting for a tactical team to come in. it was a situation where a personnel barricaded in a classroom and that there was no reason to rush in and try to stop that shooter, as the shots continue to fire. at that point, there were 19 police officers in the hall listening as shots went off. 911 calls were also coming in from the classroom. a child calling for help and she called again at 12:16 and more calls after that. full hour went by before that tactical team finally acting and killed the gunman. that incident commander was pete arredondo, he's now a member of

uvalde city council. he's the one who texas state law enforcement official says responded for request of follow up interview. chief arredondo did not answer questions and no details of what happened and has he said anything since? well, today, shimon prokupecz did an amazing job. listen to why he didn't give out any facts and why he chose not to follow active shooter protocols. >> reporter: how is it going?

>> we have people in the community being buried. >> reporter: you were responsible for the decision to going into that room. how do you explain yourself? >> we are respectful to the family. >> reporter: you have an opportunity to explain yourself to the parents. >> we'll do that eventually. and when ever this is done, the families could breathe. >> reporter: do you understand how the family -- >> we have been in contact with dps everyday. >> reporter: they said that you are not cooperating. >> i have been on the phone with them everyday. >> reporter: they say you were not cooperating. what is your reaction? >> have a good day. >> reporter: what is your

reaction, sir? >> he's not releasing any information because, quoquote, "respectful during the burial period,". he said "when ever this is done and we'll let the family quit grieving." this is why pete arredondo had been silent more than a week because he's been respectful. respectful would have been making the right decisions, training any law enforcement officer in this country should have had by now, that would have been respectful. also, not letting false information lingered out there for days. false information which by the way just happens to coverer for what appears to be this man's in-depth response. all that talk about the gunman barricaded if the classroom as he was some how built some sort of fortification, he was not barr

barricaded. he locked the door. they finally got a key from the jan janitor. pete arredondo thinks it is respectful to let false information that portrays him and his decision in a positive light remains in parents' minds but kcorrecting that and keepin parents inform is somehow disrespectful. he'll reveal the truths once the family is, quote, "quit grieving." you understand that once your child dies, you never quit grieving, i dt does not stop. life is never the same. life will never be the same. that bed will always be empty in their home. shimon prokupecz is joining us. you have been doing an amazing job. it is really hard to watch the way, you know, some law enforcement figures in this town

have continued to stonewall and cherry picking facts, 19 officers, i reread what mcgraw's statement on friday. the details are sickening. 19 officers standing in the hallway minute by minute as 911 calls coming in and they were listening to more shots by their instant commander that everybody is dead. i guess that's what the commander thought or claimed. i don't know how he would know that. no one actually checked on the bodies because they could not get into the classroom or they would not get in the classroom. the chief says he would explain himself to the parents after he let the family quit grieving. have you heard an explanation like that? >> reporter: no, i have never, and anderson. in fact, any police chief at any scene after something like this

where so many children were victims, dead, injured is out there explaining things to parents and explaining things to the public. he's been hiding, anderson. he's been ducking and hiding other officials. there were several press conferences after this by the governor and the state authorities. >> by the way, they gave the governor wrong information, and the governor went out there praising law enforcement and praising the response if it was not for them going in when the bullets were firing, we know that was not what occurred. and for him to say we are being respectful, the implication is you are not being respectful. a lot of grieviing parents want answers to. by claiming he's being respectful in a way to cover his own -- is just -- i was stunned when i heard this. >> reporter: it is also his

demeanor there. there is really no sympathy there. it is more about him and him protecting himself. that's how he carried himself. it is one of the reasons why i think it is so important to confront these officials here, to get them to answer these questions because they clearly have been hiding this information since the beginning, wanting to paint sort of this light and sort of that they did everything right and they went in there and they were heroes. for this chief who we have not seen for days. we saw him outside his house and we went into his office and able to confront him, he's going to work. he just got elected to the city council. they held private swearing in. the mayor protected him so that we would not be able to question him. you have to ask what's going on here and why is it that we keep

on getting stonewalled by every turn of different authorities. >> am i insane or overreacting to this? i went back and read every statements and it is all carefully worded that i mean when you look at it in retrospect is to gloss over 42 minutes to an hour that they knew nothing being done. >> reporter: you are right. and when we confront them with questions, all right, we'll get back to you. remember that last thursday at the press conference, they knew what i was asking and everyone i talked to, the minute i landed here, that was the big question for me. what was going on at that hour? i have never seen police officials conducted themselves in this way. i have covered several mass shootings and high crime incidents, i have never seen officials conduct themselves in

this way. and to your point, anderson, many people in the community are thankful for us seeking the answers. it is not about us. they are thankful for it. some of these officials would like us to pack our bags and leave and not go around chasing them to get answers. >> this is the strategy. the strategy is being respectful until the funerals are over which would be a week to two weeks. at which point there is not going to be a lot of media there, probably. the rest of the country is going to move on and they're going to issue it some point down the road to report months from now that won't get the attention that it should get and you know this kind of thing will just be swept auunder the rug because that's what they're trying to do under the guy that's being respectful and that's the most disrespectful thing you could possibly do to a group rof

parents whose children just been murdered. thank you. i want to get to department director andrew mccabe. you were raising questions then about this response which clearly was -- there was something that was not right and it was obvious 40 minutes to an hour go by when there is an active shooter situation, that's a complete reversal and ignoring active shooter protocol. what do you make of chief arredondo's responses? >> i want to say as a member of the law enforcement community, i have enormous pride in my own service to this country and for what my colleagues did and continue to do. as a member of that community, i have to tell you this is sickening to watch. it is absolutely so -- it is so

contrary, everything that you are talked and encouraged to do as a person entrusted to protect with the community to have this man literally hiding the grief behind families who are burying their children. it is absolutely, it is horrendous and it is in explicable. he should be called out by people like shimon as often as possible. i can't explain it. >> how is this stage in the investigation supposed to work? what are the ramifications if chief arredondo is not being forthcoming as we are led to believe he's not been. >> law enforcement agencies typically, there is no predicate for this. there is no template for when you come into figure out what happened in a mass casualty event. the law enforcement agencies are resisting providing information. yet, in this situation, not only

have they provided misinformation on numerous occasions, all kinds of important details but they have done so in a way that's clearly an effort to represent themselves in the best light possible even when that light is complete fiction. i have never seen and i managed the fbi response in numerous crisis event, pulse nightclub shooting and marathon bombing and on and on. i have never seen a situation like this where not only they are incompetent of their relation of what happened. they appeared to be engaged in a deliberate effort to cover up their own decisions and the impact that those decisions had on the lives of 19 children and two teachers. it is unbelievable. >> i want to say and i am going to hold myself to this. i don't care how long it takes

for this report to be public and however chief arredondo and if it is buried in some report a year from now, we are going to focus on it and pay attention to it and go into it in great details because it is the idea that, you know, it is possible part of his strategy is oh just wait for all these outsiders leave and it will be the grieving families left. although in his words, they stop grieving at a certain point and then we'll tell them what we are going to tell them. >> when that day comes, i have great concerns of the doj in this investigation. they won't have a grand jury and grand jury subpoenas and things like that to force people to comply with their efforts on concerns about how that's going to go. i absolutely agree. we need to stay focus on what happened here and holding people

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four other republicans refused to comply with the subpoenas. >> my position does not change. republicans are not allowed to appoint anyone. this is purely pelosi appointed. >> speaker pelosi rejected two of mccarthy's appointment. jim jordan refused to comply with the subpoenas. he declined and pulled the three members who were accepted. several republican members did and ended up working with the committee. one of them joins me tonight, this is the first interview. former white house chief of staff mark meadows have been a key source of information and of thousands of texts to the committee. how valuable has it been to

cover the ex ttent of the election? >> my people was the first to get the text messages when we are able to link the numbers together and we got the thousand text messages. it is like a road map. the committee is going to do a great job of link those messages to other data they have. what people understand is how horrible they are. i have to tell you this, anderson, my amusement turned into horror when e i saw some o the language being used. i had to get away from my kmurt a couple of times as i was looking at these text messages. mark meadows is the mvp for the committee. they should pay him. the data we got actually allowed us to structure the investigation. >> many text messages where mode

meadows provided were phone numbers attached to those names. who did he communicated with and how did you figure it out? >> congressman was just my cover. my background was in intelligence committee for 20 years. i was trained in nsa and i was trained with area force special project. when they brought me on, liz and the pelosi team, they understand i had this background that was very unique for somebody in congress. so i wrote the contracts for the phone record team and the contract for the open source intelligence research team. put the funding together because i was the ceo and i did do program management for those types of programs. i was hand able to hand pick th

teams. all these people have been helping with these contracts with these analysis and contracts are the best individuals i have ever met. we had to build an unclassified lab that try to mimic a classified lab. we were able to do that on a limited biudget and i am very proud. i am not going to mention those names right now. we were effective in helping the committee not only olinking nams to numbers but thousands of them. we were effective of helping writing the subpoenas and detail records and also actually identifying other high value assets that were in the ecosystem at that time. >> you said right before that you were so troubled by what you saw that you had to step away from your computer. what did you mean that was so troubling? >> i think and i said before,

you start these people can actually believe these things. i was looking at a former colleague sending horrific things whether i would say foreign disinformation, i was looking at things that was like a wholly war within the text messages. >> these are members of congress. >> that's correct, you are talking about group texts and donors. i would get something as as crazy as the orchard storming the wiz and we need to have some spells and stop the monkey birds from attacking us. i would have someone high up of the trump administration, oh, i wonder if it was true. it was not just spiritual warfare and qanon or conspiracy

theory. those people in those messages and when you see them, anderson, it is a road map and something that you really have to try to get your arms around it. i read those text messages many times, you feel like you are reading a fantasy novel. people has to understand the committee has an amazing challenge trying to get around the horror of those text messages. it is horrors. these are the people that's serving our government and you can see on -- it is absolutely stunning that these individuals in a position of power making policies. >> you also said meadows and the people who was texting would move their conversations into in

cr encrypted flat form. >> will we know what transpire on signals and elsewhere? >> the committee have been effective in identifying those individuals willing to cooperate. you know it is interesting, anderson, my biggest fear talking to you is not just making sure you know i don't anger too many people since i seem to have the propensity to do that. also, i don't want to giveaway how we do things so much. the thing that i have concerns about the kmcommittee is we are giving away a play book that we are giving something away based on this report. so the things that we have done, how we have identified individuals and how we have linked certain types of data, i believe it is so robust that i am almost afraid to go too deep

until how we find these things. we are close to 20 million lines of data. this is the biggest exercise in the history of congress. it is a hell of a thing to try to get our arms around. again, the committee is going to do a good job moving forward to link that data. >> what you're describing sounds like people within the government talking about a coup about our democracy. >> you know, anderson, when i first started this, i was afraid to use that term because i wanted to see the data. the term i like to use is coup-like movement. looking at the activities between people, we call the center of gravity. so many people communicating and the links and analysis is massive. what the committee has to do because we are limited in our authorities, there are disinformation out there that we can see content or we got geo

locations. we had to use data platform to recreate and fiend that type of data. we are limited of what we can see. what we can see is absolutely damming. the committee has to put all those notes together and all the end point that are people and organizations and link with thousands of interviews they did and e-mails and also the massive amount of data that we have been able to aggregate and analyze. that's important for people to understand the challenge for this committee they may not uncover everything. we need another year to look at the amount of data we have to' how deep it is. >> based on what you have seen, can you say how high you think this effort is to overturn the election goes? does the committee have information about the former president, involvement that we don't already know? >> i will tell you this. the american people should watch out for and i can refer to those

text messages. it has all three branches of the government involved. the one that bothered me was the chief of staff. we have the wife of a sitting supreme court justice, a chief of staff of a congressman, when you talk about horror or concerns. you talk about type of language they are using that's called arms, the five most chilling words, i hope this is true. i would say the committee is going to have the committee to see what's going on there and i guess it is just so troubling. if i see people talk about opinions or things like that, the issue is that these were policymakers at the top echelon and the american people have to decide this. number one, president trump sort

of in the current and led by others and by the knows and didn't know what was going on. number two, he sort of knew what was going on and sort of had plans and a willing participant and had some control. number three, was he part of the command and control infrastructure and how deep does that go and was he a willing participant. i think the data is going to be compelling from the committee. i think it is up to the american people after that is presented to come up using facts, not fantasies or opinions. using facts on what the culpability is. >> denver riggleman, i appreciate it. >> thank you, anderson. >> updates on the shooting i tulsa, we'll be riright back.

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we had officers go -- arrive at the location at 4:56, so a three-minute response time -- and made contact with the victims and the suspect at 5:01. that was them making their way to the second floor. the officers that did arrive were hearing shots in the building. that's what directed them to the second floor. right now we have four civilians that are dead. we have one shooter that is dead. and right now, we believe that is self-inflicted. >> and joe, i spoke to a city councillor there tonight. he said the gunman may have been targeting a specific physician. did they say anything more about that? >> no, they did not say anything further. there is specific report the shooter went in the hospital

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