-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i'm laura coates and this is "cnn tonight." and frankly our breaking news this hour is awful. we're still trying to find answers to what happened in buffalo and get answers to questions in uvalde. and now we've got another mass shooting in a america tonight. this time in a medical building on the campus of the st. francis hospital in tulsa, oklahoma. we learned that at least four victims are dead. the shooter is also dead. here is video from the early moments of the police response, officers pulling out their long guns, and a woman watching the chaos said when she saw emergency vehicles racing to the scene and the rifles being pulled out, she couldn't help but get emotional. frankly, it's hard not to imagine or hard to even not be emotional from yet another mass shooting in this country.

i'm going to talk to a city council member who said the shooter may have been looking for a specific doctor at that campus. as we get you up to date on what happened in tulsa this evening, we're not going to forget for one moment what's going on in uvalde, texas. how can we? and we're going to look at all the important questions that we're asking there tonight later in this hour. but we cannot turn away from the reality that this is happening all across this country. gun violence, as an epidemic, only seems to be growing. and tonight, it is throwing yet another american city into mourning. and right now i want to bring in katherine richard nealen berg of the tulsa police department. captain, thank you for joining me this evening. it's really stunning that here we are again and perhaps for many people not stunning of the state of affairs today because no one believed it would happen in their town. and here it is in tulsa.

what is the latest? what do you know about what's happened here tonight? >> i appreciate the time you're taking with me tonight. i can tell you things are slowing down here for us now. it's just been controlled chaos for a few hours for us. i can tell you we have five deceased. one of those deceased is going to be our shooter. we're still unpacking a lot of this information. it's absolutely tragic. but we responded to the scene, and we found the shooter relatively quickly. i don't have a good count on the wounded right now, but we don't have anybody else that has a life threatening injury. i can tell you this was an incredibly complex scene, and it took place in a medical facility, basically a clinic, if you will, that's five stories, multiple floors. it's the kind of place you would go, you know, to just visit with your doctor for a follow-up appointment. so, it was just madness inside with hundred of rooms and

hundreds of room trying to get out of the building. >> captain, are you saying that there may have been other people, aside from the ones we know who have died, that have been shot this evening? are there other wounded from this gunman? >> so, we have some other wounded, less than ten. we're just trying to -- so, right now, no one else has any life-threatening injuries. some were wounded in just the chaos of trying to escape. and we are looking at some who are wounded by potential gunfire. but we're still figuring it out, as people scattered and were carted off very quickly to this hospital and other hospitals with injuries. so, we're digging into that and we're going have a more definitive number here later this evening. >> in terms of where this took place within this campus, do we know about what floor this happened? was it multiple floors? was the shooter going room to

room? do you know anything about the path this person took? >> so, it was all contained to the second floor of this medical facility that has five floors. >> what's than on that second floor? is there a certain type of medical treatment? >> i don't know. there were medical staff there. i don't know what their specialty was. but it was an outpatient style facility for medical care. >> and in terms of what we know -- or do we know anything about the shooter? you say that the shooter may have died from a self-inflicted wound? do you know anything about the shooter, the relative age of the person? is this person known to authorities? >> so, we do have some preliminary information which we're not very privy to at this time because there are other circumstances that are involved with this that are outside the hospital that we can't talk about right now. so, we're still working with other agencies and other jurisdictions, as this is related to a much bigger issue

with this shooter. i know it sounds kind of -- i can't really get into too much. we don't believe that anybody else is in grave danger at this point, but this is more than isolated to this one facility. >> so, of course my ears are perking up at the notion of jurisdictions and a coordinated effort to try to understand. i certainly appreciate and don't want to compromise the investigation or the safety of people who are in the area. but suffice to say, you've got multiple people who are wounded either in the chaos of leaving. this person -- there's part of a larger orchestrated event to understand the investigation. in terms of what we know about the motive, was there one person targeted or was this at this time as far as you know something that was unintended and just intended to cause mass casualties but yet there was not one particular target? >> so, we've got some preliminary information at this time but not enough where we're comfortable releasing it.

you know, we don't believe at this time that he was just targeting, you know, the entire hospital, per se. but it's entirely possible that he was taergeting at least this floor. he went to this floor with purpose. >> and who responded? how did you know there was an active shooter on the premises? was it a 911 call? was it someone inside the building who was security for the hospital or campus? how were you first alerted? i heard the entire thing took four to five minutes. walk me through how you were alerted to this happening. >> it was very short. we received a phone call that there was a gentleman on campus with a rifle. officers showed up. the call came in for us at 4:52 this afternoon. the call was dispatched to officers at 4:53, and our first officers arrived on scene at 4:56. so, within three minutes, we arrived on scene. you know, looking for the suspect, we had heard shots

being fired on the second floor. officers, you know, ran up to the second floor. and as they were breaching the door in the stairway, which was at 5:01, so about five minutes into the situation they're breaching that doorway. and they heard the shooting stop. so, that's when the situation was no longer considered an active shooter where someone was continually firing rounds. an active shooter situation for us, we will continue to run and address where those shots are coming from. so, it stopped. and as soon as it stopped, we got through that door and we found our first victim. so, as we continued on, we found another victim and the suspect, who had apparently shot himself. >> have the victims yet been identified? >> we know who they are, but we're still making notifications to the family at this time. >> do you know what the weapon that was used was? >> yeah, a long gun or a rifle

and a pistol. >> and by the time you arrived -- how were you aware that this was the shooter that was deceased? was there some indication -- >> when we found the shooter, he still had the rifle and the pistol on his person. >> he was then dead though at that point in time. >> correct, correct. >> we're hearing news, some report of a potential incident happening in muss coe gi. what can you tell us about that, an area not too far from tulsa. >> i can't confirm that right now. we are looking into that. that may be part of this investigation. but there's too much going on with that to give you a comprehensive idea of how it's related. we do have investigators heading that direction right now to make contact with that department and with some individuals that are involved in this situation. >> captain, thank you so much for your time. were any officers wounded in this? >> we had no officers wounded in this. we have lots of officers on

scene. and it's a horribly tragic event. any life lost is horribly tragic. i'm very, very proud of the officers for getting there as quickly as they did, very well potentially stopping more people from losing their life today. >> captain richard muilenburg, thank you for your time and keeping us posted. i know there's a lot more to talk about. thank you for giving us the transparency you have today. i want to bring in jamie fowler from the tulsa city council. thank you for joining me tonight. you've just heard from the captain. what more can you tell us about what more happened on the scene? do you have any idea as to who this shooter was or what caused this tragedy? >> you know, from the accounts i've been given, it's -- you know, i can kind of reconcile from captain muilenburg is that i was with an off-duty sergeant

there in the division that responded to this. and we were getting -- sergeant was getting real live phone calls and texts from officers on the way to the scene. and -- >> what did you hear? >> the first one -- yeah. the first call we got was that, you know, there was an active shooter there at the natalie warren building adjacent to the st. francis hospital. and then as we were sitting there, the events unfolded. and i think our first confirmation is that we heard that there were three victims. and the shooter also took his own personal life. one person critically wounded. and from, you know, what we're finding out here, that particular person that was critically wounded has also passed away for a total of five people. >> there's an additional

casualty now. so, it's now -- you believe it might be six people including now the shooter? is that what you're saying? >> a total of five -- that's what i'm -- >> total of five. any life lost obviously is one too many. you know, councilman, it's hard to look at this and view it in a vacuum. i mean, the nation has been talking about active shooters in the successive mass shootings we've seen just in recent weeks in this country. you never think it's going to happen in your community. what went through your mind as you were sitting in that car with that sergeant. are you thinking, how can this be happening here? >> we literally -- you know, our nation saw what happened in buffalo and then also in uvalde. and, you know, if you were just here in the community, you would never think something like this would happen. and, you know, our hearts and

prayers go out to the victims and the families. and tulsa is just one of the most normal, nicest cities in america. and you would never really think that something like this would happen. with that said, the sergeant i was with, the police department just yesterday practiced a hostage situation that now today just actually transpired. and i would imagine that police departments across the country are doing the same thing, that they are having dialogues and discussions and practice situations for just this incident. and it's just tragic. and the words just can't begin to describe the disappointment

and the hurt. >> the disappointment and the hurt i think is so well put. and you know, as you articulated, the real sad reality here is that every city, every town impacted is nice and no one believes it will happen here. and that's part of the scariest part for every person living across this country that it could -- this tragedy could knock on all of our doors. and the idea that there was this training yesterday -- i mean, i've got kids who have active shooter training in their elementary school. do you know if this training that took place yesterday was in reaction to the fact that there have been so many questions about what officers have done or failed to do in places like uvalde? was that in reaction or was it rescheduled? do you know? >> you would hate to ever second guess what happened in uvalde, but i would think every police department of any size or scale has dialogues and discussions

with everyone in their departments and that police departments across the country, you know, have a dialogue and discussion and get prepared for just this situation. i think, you know, from what i'm hearing from reports coming in is that our police department handled this situation really, really well. >> thank you tulsa city council lor jayme fowler. it's stomach turning, frankly, to think about the idea of having to be continuously, perpetually prepared for a tragedy such as this. we're going to keep an eye on any developments from tulsa, rest assured. another night, another mass shooting in america. even as so many questions remain unanswered about last week's massacre. coming up, we'll bring you cnn's exclusive interview with the

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as we keep a close eye on the new developments coming out of tulsa, we cannot forget the pain that's happening in uvalde, frankly, across this country. today, a 10-year-old child, jose manuel florez jr. had to be buried in a closed casket today. this just after eight days after families had to provide dna to even identify some of their loved ones. a loving couple was buried today, as their four children are left with unanswered questions. and, you know, the man that might be able to answer those questions, chief pete arredondo, either he can't answer the questions, or he won't. in fact, when cnn tracked down the school police chief after a week of silence on his part, one of the few answers that we got was, at best, we'll call it

inconsistent. now, remember that chief arredondo was the commander who kept officers out in the hallway, this as a young girl called 911 repeatedly from the classroom pleading for help. there's been no word from him since the day of the shooting, not from lack of effort on our part. this was all he had to say today after eight day of changing stories and nationwide outrage. >> i just want your reaction to -- >> we're going to be -- >> -- the direction that you were responsible for the decision. >> we're going to be -- we're going to be respectful to the family. >> i understand that. you have an opportunity to explain yourself to the parents. >> and just so you know, we're going to do that eventually obviously. and whenever this is done, when the families quit grieving, we'll do that obviously. >> i'm sorry. did he just say he'll give answers when the families quit grieving? can you play that back? i want to hear that again. >> whenever this is done,

whenever the families quit grieving, then we'll do that obviously. >> so, just out of curiosity, to use his phrase, just so you know, when exactly does he think they'll be done grieving? and why, if respect for the families is the goal, why not have the respect to give them the answers right now? some answers? i mean, both the district and the chief, they have a lot to account for. but don't let the chief say he wasn't prepared for what may have happened last week, at least in training. we know that arredondo took active shooter training not once, not twice, but three times, most recently, in december of 2021. 32 hour of courses. and they didn't go in for over an hour. now, look, we are right to question what went wrong in uvalde. that's not the only focus.

i want to be clear that evaluating the police response does not mean we shouldn't question our officials, our elected officials on what else needs to be done. after all, while we've been questioning, there was another mass shooting today. and after all it was an 18-year-old who went in with an ar-15 that he bought legally and used that weapon to murder human beings. now, on capitol hill, bipartisan gun talks are in the early phases, we're being told. in fact, here's president biden on the process. >> are you confident congress will take action on gun legislation, sir? >> i've served in congress for 36 years. i'm never confident totally. it depends. and i don't know. i've not been in on the negotiations as they're going on right now. >> well, that doesn't make me feel very confident at all. but what i am confident about is this. lives are at risk right now. these lives have been lost. and the unpredictability of the

date of these tragic events, when the next one may occur, it means that time is of the essence. and the collateral damage is immeasurable. and here to explore that collateral impact tonight is chief chris ben ghaly, one of the first officers on the scene of the sandy hook shooting in connecticut. also with us, samantha hamlin, a survivor of a shooting with a decade of experience as a school counselor. i want to focus and hone in on what people may not be thinking about, the idea of we know about the impact of what has happened to the families we think we know. we'll never be able to truly understand. but chief, when you think about this, i mean, walk me through a little bit about what your reaction has been now when you're thinking abtout the reaction by the officers, the statement that was made by that police chief to say let's just

wait to give information until the families quit grieving. what's going on in the meantime from your experience while families are waiting for the answers? >> right. once again, good evening and thank you for having me on again. before anything, i just want to say, heart felt prayers and thoughts go to the families, teacher, whole community in uvalde and of course now another one in tulsa on the heels of another shooting. parents go through a lot. they want answers right away. and sometimes it's very difficult to get those answers because p investigations can take a long time. the sandy hook report, the investigation took over a year to get done with. however, one of the great successes of sandy hook is that each family was offered and given a police officer as a liaison. he was their own personal police officer. that officer's job alone day in

and day out from the start until everything wrapped up was to be with that family to make sure that any information came across, the families had it first, to assist the families in navigating the investigation and the media, even to go get milk if the family needed somebody to go out shopping. so, there are ways to really mitigate the families and what they're going through. >> and i don't want to discount the experience of police officers who are responding to these scenes. i mean, the horror of what is being seen, the emotional reaction. it is haunting really for the rest of people's lives and thinking about what they've come across and trying to grapple with it. samantha, i want to turn to you, because you were a student at columbine high school when the mass shooting occurred. and i understand that for years you didn't even seek out therapy or counseling because you thought, hey, because i wasn't somebody who was actually injured, i had no right to do

it. but you -- the truth is, as you well know, that the collateral damage of the impact of these shootings is very wide-reaching. >> yeah, absolutely. yeah. i ignored by ptsd symptoms for more than a decade knowing that other people had it worse than i did. and i down played it, and i was a counselor when i finally sought help for my ptsd. so, denying the symptoms and thinking other people had it worse is very common for survivors. but also i want to call out, this stuff is hard for those present, those not present, for teachers everywhere, for parents everywhere, and it's in every community. and the more that we watch it, the more we see it, the worse it's going to get. >> it's terrifying for so many. it's terrifying for everyone, myself included, to think about the feeling of helplessness and not knowing the predictability, although there is something

eerily inevitable. and eit's just something that's haunting. i wonder what do you make of what's necessary. you've been on the ground. you've seen what happened. you understand the complexity and really the simplicity of the response and what they should be. walk me through it a little bit, samantha, in terms of what do you see as missing in this conversation? what do you think people ought to be considering when they're thinking about a reaction to these mass shootings? >> if i'm totally honest, i'm frustrated that we're always talking about the reaction and not the prevention. we react to these things. and i think a lot of schools and districts have a lot of practice, and we can lean heavily on each other on how to recover from these things. but why, as a society, are we waiting it to happen every single community before we decide to make some sort of response to prevent it? >> and the idea of this being something that we react to as opposed to being proactive.

chief, i want to end with you because, you know, you and i were speaking about this offline and thinking about the notion. i asked you a question. i would love to hear your response. we've been talking a lot about the police reaction of what happened in uvalde or didn't happen in uvalde. you were one of the first people to respond on the scene at sandy hook elementary school. and even having gone in, you grappled with, and other officers, about not even going in soon enough. tell me about this idea of what happened and what's going through these officers' minds as they are under this magnifying glass? is this something that is going to have an affect on not only morale but even how they are processing their own roles? >> yeah, so, at the same time that you're dealing with having witnessed the deaths of multiple people in a horrific event that, you know, most of us will never see in our career, and then dealing with the, you know,

acute stress disorder which can turn into ptsd. on top of that, you have depression and you have guilt. there's survivors' guilt. there's guilt for the people in the school that survived. there's officers that weren't working that day that wanted to be there with their fellow officers. and there's guilt i think from all the officers that responded. you're always going to sit there and say maybe there's something i could have done differently. maybe if i got here sooner. maybe if i went down this hallway or this hallway. maybe if i got there to meet the ambulance quicker. in the end, in our particular case, we realized there was nothing we could do. we got there fast enough. we did our jobs. we got people we thought we could save out of the building. but you still live with that, and you really have to get counseling. you know, i did several years of counseling. i still go back every now and again. and it's important for each department to have a very, very

good employee assistance program, an eap. so, when these events happen, you know, trained professionals can come out to the police department and the other first responders and actually sit with them and deal with them right at the beginning, when it's the most critical for them. >> and samantha to the work that you do as well, the idea of having that available and recognizing the importance of these services, this is part of the conversation. and i'm a stone's throw away from the capitol here in washington, d.c. i bet they may be able to be proactive even where we cannot. thank you both so much tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you. now, a significant victory for johnny depp. after a graphic six-week trial that captured the nation's attention, the jurors also found reason to side with his ex-wife, amber heard. we'll break down what the jury said about depp's defamation case against amber heard and vice versa next.

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damages, although there may be caps on what they're able to extend. while heard was awarded $2 million, none of that was punitive. the jury sided with her, finding that one of depp's lawyers defamed her, full of lurid details and drama that started, of course, after depp sued his ex-wife over a 2019 op-ed that identified her as a domestic abuse survivor. so, how did the jurors reach this verdict? joining me now is ken turkel, an attorney who specializes in these celebrity defamation cases. we've been waiting to find what the jury may find. were you surprised by the verdict in favor of johnny depp and also a liability by the attorney of johnny depp for amber heard? >> i'm not sure anything could really surprise me in this case. it was -- it was just not

conventional in so many ways. was i surprised? i never read much into the social media, into the buzz around these trials because i've done them. and i know it ultimately means nothing. all that means anything is what the jury takes. what i guess surprised me, these are very much zero sum games, laura. you don't see compromise verdict. the idea there's an eight-figure verdict there doesn't surprise me given the evidence that came in and what it seemed like the vibe was in the courtroom. the part that surprises me -- >> i do want to walk -- i want to hear your answer to that, but i also want to walk through -- we've got the word defamation on the screen right now. you and i have talked about the fact that most of this trial did not follow the sort of flowchart one would go through when you're talking about a defamation trial. the idea of here we have proof. so, i want to walk through a little bit of the elements you had to prove in this case.

because you heard the jury's verdict being read. they marched through these questions and had to answer yes. walk me through the take of statement was it made or published by heard? was it about johnny depp? was it false? was there a defamatory implication about johnny depp? was there a defamatory implication with someone who saw it who was not johnny depp? and did they prove these things by actual malice. walk me through in terms of how this was really the crux of what the jury had to look for. >> so, some of these elements, as we talked about in one of the earlier appearances i had, this sounded more like a he said/she said almost domestic violence counteraccusations. but it boils down to the statements made in this op-ed. and the statements were set forth in each part of the verdict form with the elements you just read. when you look at the statements, one of the elements is was the

statements false? one of the things you have to prove is that it's capable of being proven false. it's a provably false statement. when you look at some of these statements and things like i incurred the rather of a nation for standing up to a powerful man, et cetera, i am still questioning how that's provably false. and you really parse these statements out, divide them up. and you can literally split a sentence to figure out which part is true and provably false, et cetera. so, as you go through these, obviously all the evidence of all the incidences that came in, the jury wasn't convinced that he ever acted with any sort of physical violence towards her. and therefore these statements that were implicitly directed at him were therefore false. the publishing -- the writer the considered a writer under the law as is the platform on which they publish. so, the things that jump out in my mind when you talk about

defamation by implication, we're not saying true/false. we're saying in the totality that they've read this and this is what it's implying. the jury instructions that led to these are going to be a lot more complex than the elements sound. then you have the first amendment. >> where did the malice stand in? i'm sorry, go ahead. what's the take away? >> they believed him, not her. the actual malice is higher standard of proof, not preponderance of the evidence but clear and convincing evidence. that is she did it knowing it was false or recklessly disregarded truth and falsity. that could follow this story. they very much believed him. then you have the counterclaim verdict. >> you're right and on that counterclaim, they did find that the attorney who was speaking on behalf of johnny depp, they found did in fact defame amber heard on one of the statements that was made. and she was obviously awarded some damages there. but this is -- it was a really

complex trial in the sense that they've strayed so far away from the meat and potatoes of how you pr prove these cases of defamation. so, i'll be curious as you are, i know, about what happens now and the impact. she certainly believes that the impact going forward will be a devastating one on women victims going forward. we'll talk more about the fallout and the repercussions from there. ken turkel, thank you so much. >> thank you, laura. we're turning back to tulsa and tonight's breaking news. four victims dead in a mass shooting at a hospital on a hospital campus. and by one estimate, the 20th mass shooting in america since uvalde. not this year, the 20th since uvalde. that was eight days ago, america. what we know about the attack and the shooter who is now dead is next.

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ago that there are up to ten people that are wounded. joe johns is also tracking the breaking news. joe, what are you learning about what's going on in tulsa? >> reporter: laura, there is still a lot of mystery surrounding all this. first of all, it's not clear at all from speaking with the authorities, as you did just a little while ago, whether those people were shot or whether they were otherwise injured as a result of the chaos in trying to get out of that five-story building when all of the shooting started this afternoon heading into the evening. the shooter is dead. four other people are also dead. the shooter apparently took his own life. he walked in with a rifle and a hand gun, ended up on the second floor of that building where there's an orthopedic center, apparently shot himself, as authorities were breaching their way into the room where the shooter was located. so, there are some questions of course tonight about a corollary

investigation extending to another location. but it's not clear at all what the connection is. and authorities have been very careful not to disclose any more than they know at this time. back to you, laura. >> so much unfolding. thank you so much. joe johns, we'll keep you posted. everyone, not even the escape of the "star wars" movie and tv franchise can let us completely escape the worst of humanity. but there is a swell of support tonight for an actress who's being targeted by racists. where is the hate coming from, and why now? after 45 years of science fiction love around the world. i'll tell you why next. or an intense burning sensation. what is this nightmare? it's how some people describe... shinglgles. a painful, blistering rash that could interrupt your life for weeks. forget social events and weekend getaways.

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the officials star wars page is showing support for one of the actors who has been harassed by racists. moses ingram has made her debut in the disney plus series but she says she's received hundreds of racist messages on social media, calling her the n word and even threatening her life. fans, so to speak are so angry that disney has the audacity for a fantastiy franchise. >> we love moses. >> i also see those of you out there who put on a cape for me and that really does mean the world to me because you know, there's nothing anybody can do about this. there's nothing anybody can do to stop this hate.

i question what my purpose is and even being here in front of you saying that this is happening. >> entertainment tonight host and contributor joins me now. first of all, hearing her talk about the idea of nothing you can do about this, i mean, it's just shocking to me. you're talking about star wars. we can believe in r2d2 and the baby yoda and all these different characters but a black woman in star wars, that's the part where we can't suspend dispolid disbelief. what's your reaction? >> a will the of this is, you said shocking. i'm not sure i'm shocked by it because it's not first time we have seen the fans show the worst side of themselves. it breaks my heart to hear moses talk about the fact she questions her purpose without

hearing the entire bit of that but because she is such a brilliant young actress and she is rising star in hollywood, it really hurts me as a woman of color to hear another woman saying, i question my purpose and question what i'm doing because there's nothing that we can do about this. it's hard to police people's prejudices and fix what is broken. i do think that -- i do commend you him for stepping up and speaking out. i think it's also on all of us to be anti-racist and to take an active part and to combatting this type of hate. we have seen it before. kelly marie was in the star wars franchise and when they cast her, an asian woman, she came up against a lot of hate herself. it drove her off social media. she wrote an op-ed about it and saying it wasn't just the word of these people, it was that she

started to believe them and it tapped in all of those things she felt about herself as a little vietnamese girls who felt like she belonged in the margin and not in the center. that's the toughest part when you hear how it effects these actors and actresses. >> another actor who dealt with this as well when he was a part of the franchise. i remember when billie dee williams, the first time you had the person of color in these roles. we're talking about star wars. we're talk about aliens. it's on the heels of escapism. people are looking to return to the movies. we just talked yesterday about top gun and the box office smash. here is an area where people can't escape the predicate in

some ways but the fundamental connective tissue of so much of america and race. that's what is so disheartening. >> you said it. we can buy into all of this. we can buy into the fact the people have these super powers. these super human powers. we can't buy into the fact that woman of color can be a part of this universe or a person of color can exist and star and thrive in the universe. that's really saddening to me. i will say on the other side, we definitely have seen some of these studios say to their fans, listen, get on the train or you're going get left because we're not going to kowtow to this. we are beginning to continue to be more inclusive and more diverse and they do have work to do. believe me. that he has studios and franchises have work to do.

they are saying, we're not going to do this with you all. we're not going to play these games. you're going to love us or you're not going to watch us at all. >> as yoda would say, racists we will not have. thank you so much. we'll be right back. hitting the road, not all 5g networks are created equal. t-mobile covers more highway miles with 5g than verizon. t-mobile has more 5g bars in more places than anyone. another reason t-mobile is the leader in 5g.

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that's it for us tonight. don lemon tonight starts now. we'll get straight to breaking news. see you tomorrow night. this is don lemon tonight. this is our break news at this hour. th there's a dead ly mass shooting in tulsa, oklahoma. police say four people were killed. the gunman also dead. police believe of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. there may be up to ten people wounde