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our children demand. this is not about the second amendment. this is about what the gun lobby, what the gun eindustry i trying to do to sell more guns. i grew up a hunter. then i became an army ranger and i'm a gun owner now. never, never, in all that time was this an issue of assault weapons, of a.r.-15s, it was never part of the dialogue until the gun lobby decided they wanted to sell more guns. we need to stop this insanity, get back to reasonable discussions about what we can do to save people's lives. >> so listen, the president is leaving it up to you to congress and the senate that the white house has been really staying out of the capitol hill negotiations on guns. is this speech a sign that's going to change the president's involvement or possible involvement may change here? would you welcome the
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president's direct involvement? >> i would love the president's direct involvement and he has been directly involved. he's passed executive orders. the president is not a king. the president cannot just by fiat claim something to be the case. the system starts with congress to pass laws. the house of representatives has passed, in my time in congress, we have passed most of this major legislation. it goes to the senate to die like most things do but we're going to do it again. we're going to go and go back next week and we're going to pass it again because that's what the american people deserve and we're going to send it back over to the senate and people should vote and go back to their constituents and have to justify their vote and stand by their vote. we're going to make them vote. that's their job. we need to continue to push hard and have the american people m push with us to put pressure on those who are not willing to
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come to the table. >> do you think americans should take this to the ballot box come november if nothing changes? do you think they will? >> absolutely. they will. without question, parents are fed up, i'm fed up, children are fed up. we don't have to live like this. we don't. since when have we become a country that can't solve major problems? that's not the story of america. the story of america is we do big and hard things. so we have a big and hard thing ahead of us and we have to get it done but there are people who are not willing to do it so it's time for them to get out of the way. it's time for the american people to fire those people and to hire people who are willing to do big and bold things. >> congressman, president biden reflected on a moment in a memorial service that he attended. >> as we left the church, a grandmother who had just lost her granddaughter passed me a
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handwritten letter. it read, quote, erase the invisible line that is dividing our nation. come up with a solution and fix what's broken and make the changes that are necessary to prevent this from happening again, end of quote. >> so clearly that letter impacted him in a big way. it goes back to what the president campaigned on. he promised unity. >> right. well, you get unity by delivering results and make people's lives better. that requires truth, courage and people who are not willing to be courageous or truthful to get the hell out of the way so we can do what needs to be done to save our kids' lives. >> congressman, thank you very much. i appreciate you joining us this evening. >> thanks, don. >> there have been so many mass shootings in this country. it's sadly hard to keep track of
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that. here what's president biden said about that today. >> just do something. for god sake do something. after columbine, after sandy hook, after charleston, orlando, las vegas, parkland, nothing has been done. this time that can't be true. this time we must actually do something. >> it's very similar to what president obama said almost ten years ago when a gunman killed 26 people, 20 of this many children at sandy hook elementary school. >> as a country we have been through this too many times, whether it's an elementary school in newton or a shopping mall in oregon or a temple in wisconsin or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come
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together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. >> let's discuss now. cnn's senior political analyst, john avlon. good evening. what do you think has happened in the decade and the last few weeks that may change things? >> what's happened in the last decade is more death, more mass shootings, more mass murder and nothing has changed. there's a bipartisan bill but it was filibustered and people said if we can't get action on common sense gun safety reform after children, first grades are killed, we never will. so people basically gave up, but the death toll keeps rising and the mass shooting numbers are out of control.
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so i think there is regret on the inaction. i think there is a win dow wher you can get something done in the senate, specific things from red flag laws, not an assault weapons ban but maybe raising the minimum age to 21, things that we can do that we can agree on. that's not too much to ask. >> ron, you have been looking into this. are the american people behind the president when it comes to gun reform? >> sure. the dynamic has been the same for a long time. there is a majority in support of the key proposals laid out including an assault weapon ban, including a high capacity over 60% and roughly 90% in support of universal background check. that extends not only from democrats and independents as i've said before, if you look at the pew poll, even republicans who don't own guns, a majority
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would agree and support those positions. the republican gun owners are the one group that opposes all those ideas and they have a veto in the republican party. it's easy to forget in the 1990s there were 38 house republicans who voted for the assault weapons ban. bush said in 2000 theesaid he w sign an assault weapons ban. what has changed from a policy point of view since then? as john said, there have been more death, more mass shootings. why were those policies acceptable then and they are unacceptable now and the only reason is because of the shifting nature of the republican coalition and their increased reliance on the most culturally conservative voters and they have the party view on guns. >> i'll ask alice. is he right about that? >> i think, look, what we're seeing across the country and even within the republican party, people are saying, as
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president biden said, they've had enough of the violence and of the shootings and it t's tim now to hope for change. i am hopeful and optimistic we will see change. ron is the expert on the numbers. i was fascinated by a poll i saw today, a poll that polled people across the country. they view a lot of this as a mental health issue, not just a gun violence issue so that is something that need to be taken into consideration. president biden touched on what. it cannot be just focusing on the guns. he mentioned several aspects. john outlined many of them, looking certainly at expanding the background checks, looking at the mental health issue -- >> hang on. i don't think anyone is saying just focus on guns. i think most people are saying it should be comprehensive. every person i've spoken to said it should be comprehensive. the only people who are saying it shouldn't be guns and that's the the people rob mentioned,
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republicans -- >> a lot of republicans i spoke to said they're not being reached out to by democrats. senator graham said he would be happy to sit down and have these conversations but democrats are not willing to find common ground on this. i think there's three things that are going to come out of this as we try to seek meaningful, important, common sense reform -- >> alice, hasn't mitch mcconnell deputized john cornyn and others -- why can't republicans reach out? i think republicans face more scrutiny come november if they don't deal with this issue. >> look, everyone needs to put the partisanship aside and have these conversations three things are going to come out of this conversation. progressives are not going to get everything they want, as biden said. republicans are not going to give up everything they want, and democrats are not going to get anything unless they really bring both sides to the and have
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these talks. we've heard democrats talk about they're willing to put legislation out there for a vote without having a bipartisan input on this. we can't have that. we truly need bipartisanship to get something done. it needs to be come pensive but it needs to be bipartisan. >> i want to play this because i think it's important. this is republican senator chuck grassley. he held a town hall in his home state of iowa. this video shows how he responded to a question of ban banning a.r.-15 style weapons. >> 15 million guns are a.r. 15s. you'll still have them even if you stop selling this many right now. >> no, you ban them. you get rid of them. you confiscate them and find them and you put them in jail. >> well, the answer to your question is a process answer. whatever we do through the
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cornyn-murphy cooperative effort to make school safe and to do what you can with guns, that probably would not get 60 votes. >> filibuster it then. >> there you go. one of the most conservative. we reached out to grassley's office, by the way, for comment, but we haven't heard back. constituents are clearly angry, john. that's why i said this is a more dangerous thing for republicans, i do believe, in this moment come november than it is for democrats. >> i think the issue is the parties are basically captive to their bases, particularly the republican party. the fact that chuck grassley is getting that kind of push back in iowa, folks are saying you're telling me you can't do anything? that's not the american way. you deal with difficult issues and you find common ground. he said there's no way we're
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going to get 60 and it was immediately said stop filibustering. you have to have faith in cornyn and murphy and cassidy and graham negotiating with these democratic senators right now. ear everyone is going to have to compromise. the question is can you get ten republicans to support it. but people will listen to their constituents. >> it's not just guns but you cannot exclude the guns, right? >> no. it's both. it's both. >> it's comprehensive. it's all of it. thank you all. i really appreciate it. there's so much gun violence every day in this country. people are getting shot all the time and a lot of those shootings don't make the headlines but they are a huge part of the problem. so what do we do about them? >> do we as a nation have a god-given right to live free from this scourge of gun
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the 18-year-old suspected gunman in last month's racist mass shooting in buffalo appearing in court today, a grand jury indicting him on 25 counts, including a domestic act of terrorism motivated by hate in the first degree, ten counts of first degree murder and one
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count of criminal possession of a weapon. the suspect pleading not guilty of all charges. the shooting in the market left ten dead and three injured. thanks for joining us, gentlemen, good evening. this is the first time new york has used the charge of domestic terrorism motivated by hate. he's facing 25 charges in all. should more of these mass murders be charged with domestic terrorism in. >> absolutely. this has been a glacial process getting to this point. we should have had more teeth to the legislation in connection with charging people that commit these horrific acts, such as what we saw happen in buffalo. we need to move forward. another thing is look at what's happening to the asian community. they have been just totally overwhelmed by hate crimes. this is something that's
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happened to the african-american community for years on end. it unfortunately seems as if we've become contrite and we've accepted it, but now we have legislation moving forward that will better assist in ensure that people are prosecuted accordingly. >> it's not just mass shootings but the small, every day gun violence that's eating away at the fabric of new york. today in new york a man was indicted for killing a food dld delivery because he did not get enough duck sauce. last week a man was randomly shooting at random cars. where does this kind of callousness in people's lives come from? >> don, it is out of control. i can't explain why people do what they do, but it's clear if guns fall into the wrong hands, then these are the tragic results. and it is time for us to do
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something. the daily homicides, the daily shootings, they do significant damage. not only lives are lost but families, communities, it just -- it's a poison. it's just so much to continue to way that we've got to stop it. we have to stop this. >> and it's every time i turn on the news here in new york, you see a senseless murder, somebody being killed or shot in the subway, all kinds of just madness. there are so many of these smaller killings that it barely registers with the public but they actually make up a huge portion of gun death. >> absolutely. the communities of color most specific have been under siege in the wake of gun violence. it seems that we've gained a level of comfort in surviving in the ecosystem of gun violence.
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these do not get the headlines. we have not gotten the necessary representation from law enforcement and elected officials in connection with the gun violence that's plaguing the communities of new york city, los angeles and chicago. i give president biden a lot of credit for standing up to the gun manufacturers and the far right. i'm going to tell you, i'm a republican but at the same token, i am diametrically opposed to the gun violence that's plaguing our country. silence is violence. we need to take some action and it needs to come into effect now. because if it doesn't, we have 400 million guns in the united states and only 360 million people. at what point do we identify, hey, we have a catastrophic problem here that other countries are not experiencing. >> there's a case in california where police arrested a 16-year-old after acting on a tip that he was allegedly recruiting students to carry out
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a mass shooting a the t a high school. among the items they recovered in a search of his home were assault rifles. how is it so easy for teen-agers to get access to assault weapons like this? >> the times we're living in, the access to these weapons, to parts of these weapons, is definitely a concern. for a 16-year-old to be able to actually start to plot and then start to obtain what's needed to pull off a plot to kill others, it's just amazing. and then we have to look at copycats, social media, where's the parental guidance, mental health issues. it's just so much that we have to deal with and at least tonight we heard president biden mention numerous issues, including mental health, including going after the manufacturers of these guns.
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so this was a significant night but we have a lot of work to do. we keep talking about it and people are steady dying every single day. and just because you aren't part of the measurement for a mass shooting, four victims or more not including the shooter, what about if you die in a triple shooting, a triple homicide, a double, a single? these people, these lives matter to their families and we really have to do a better job. >> thank you, anthony. thank you, darren. i really appreciate it. the january 6th committee announcing public hearings, promising previously unseen material from the day of the insurrection. former white house council john dean weighs in next. a painful, blistering rashsh that could interrupt your life for weeks.
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"watergate, blueprint for a scandal." a former administration official said trump, quote, failed at being the president. another said he daerelict in hi duty to speak out while the capitol was being attacked. is it the burden of the committee to prove that trump failed? >> i don't think that's a difficult truth, don. the insurrection was something he helped orchestrate and i don't think we're going to have any trouble proving that piece of information. >> a lot of folks have been waiting on the timing of this. when exactly are they going? they were going to asked you'll these hearings, the january 6th committee announcing its first public hearing is going to take place next week and present previously unseen material documenting what's happened on
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january 6th. and we've seen so much from that day, vice president pence beibeing escorted out of the senate chamber. what sort of new material do you expect them to share. seems like we know an awful lot. there's more? >> we do. who knows what they know. they've done a massive collection of information. they've got really an impressive witness list. it's just the opposite, don, as watergate. watergate started with low-level people and they bored the bee gees us out of everybody. the network threatened to pull coverage if they didn't get more exciting witnesses but they went step by step by step. they upped the game here. they have much more important witnesses, much more knowledgeable witnesses. i think it's going to educate the public faster. >> i want to talk about the witnesses. do you think it's going to happen in primetime. do you think that's going to make a difference to the american public, people won't be at work, they might be at home?
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>> it makes a huge difference being in primetime, yes. >> the committee has started reaching out to witnesses and informing them of their desire to appear as witnesses. how important is it for the committee to line up witnesses that are going to be compelling to all americans? as you said, they threatened to -- the networks threatened to pull it unless they got more interesting witnesses. compelling witnesses, how important is that? >> it's important. witnesses are unpredictable. there will be some examination. i think they're going to use counsel to cross-examine witnesses. that will draw things they're not skexpecting. there will be conflict, which is always good for television. they have learned a lot from watergate, iran-contra, the clinton proceedings. they understand tell aevision n then when, say, 85 million
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people tuned in to watch me. >> you in the 70s. you didn't even look at the video. does it seem like another life? >> it was another life. >> similar glasses. i want to play a clip from the cnn series "watergate: blueprint for a scandal." watch this. >> one of the questions that h halderman asked me was can i be loyal to richard nixon. it struck me as a strange question because i thought we were all on the same team. >> the loyalty is about being a member of the group. that becomes the paramount value. if you're not loyal, then you are get kicked out of the group. so to maintain your tribal membership, you have to go along with whatever the weaker says, and that's incredibly dangerous. >> a vice president, a member of the cabinet, a member of congress who was a member of the
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president's party, he should always consider that he is dispensable and to do what the man wants. >> i mean, that takes me back to my childhood. i remember my parents, my grandparents watching the hearings and watching the news as to what was going on. i remember our president leaving in shame on a helicopter, being taken from the white house. the watergate scandal -- >> you had the -- >> remember he stood there and did that. >> it was kind of a defiant salute he did at the end. >> that comparing january 6th, both are these are about presidents trying to hang on to power. what happened at the capitol, how does that compare to what happened -- >> what happened on january 6th is so much worse than watergate by a hundred degrees. what we're talking about right now threatens democracy. if we don't get it right, if we don't get out of this mode where
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authoritarian leadership is accepted blindly, this is what nixon gave us a hint of. i think there's a difference, though. somebody like trump showed he had no shame. you couldn't embarrass trump. you can't can't. now the republican party is taking that attitude. they don't care if you shame them. and that's very dangerous for a democracy. a democracy has to be humble, it has to really -- not of itself but of the people it's governing and we're way out of whack right now. >> that is a good way, we're way out of whack. >> it's a kind way of saying it. >> it's so good to see you in person. thank you for coming in. >> thank you for doing this. >> i hope everyone watches this. it's very important. as you said, our democracy is on the line. the all new original series, "watergate, blueprint for a scandal", sunday at 9 p.m. thanks to john dean.
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>> and the case that exploded online, johnny depp and amber heard. is dan here? has anybody seen him? there he is, in the background.
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a lawyer for amber heard tells cnn the reason the jury ruled favorably for johnny depp was because of his wealth, power
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and fame. depp was awarded more than $10 million in damages, his ex-wife was awarded $2 million. amber heard says she's appeal the verdict. dan abrams, i'm so happy that you're here. he's the co-author of "wealth, po power and fame," "alabama versus king." >> if you look at the verdict together, there's no question they didn't believe amber heard and they did believe johnny depp. the victory that amber hear got was a technical one. it was a statement that depp's
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lawyer made about -- >> was this heard by more than one person? >> exactly. so they don't believe the friends got together and cooked this whole thing up. when it came to johnny depp's claims for defamation, he won on all three, it says they didn't believe amber heard. >> a defamation case against a public figure -- >> harder here than in england. >> so what does this say about defamation cases going forward? does it set a precedent? >> it doesn't say anything about d defamation. it says in this case these jurors didn't believe amber heard. when you listen to the statement from amber heard's lawyer, it's basically insulting the jurors, saying that these jurors were too blinded by his power and fame. couldn't be that they saw the
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evidence. people who saw the evidence had real problems with amber heard's account. >> alabama v. king, martin luther king and the civil trial that launched the civil rights movement. you wrote the book with fred gray. how important was this case in establishing king as a national civil rights leader? >> it was the case. martin luther king was a local minister who had been asked by fred gray and one other person to be the spokesperson for this boycott that they were conducting in montgomery of the busses. that became a very successful boycott. it became so successful that the local authorities said we got to get these people back on the busses, how are we going to do it? let's prosecute martin luther king based on some ancient boy sc boycott statute. the first time he's ever mentioned in the national media
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is in this trial. martin luther king testifies in his own defense. fascinating stuff. >> you believe he is one of the most underrepresented -- he was just 25 years old at the time. he also represented rosa parks, claudette colvin, the freedom riders, numerous school segregation lawsuits. the most impactful things about the struggles of folks who were living in montgomery, alabama and the people who were dealing with what of happening at the time. >> what an honor. i'm talking a piece of history working on this book with him. it was great! getting to work on this book with him, the most impactful this evening working on this book was reading the accounts from the individual citizens, ordinary folks in montgomery. witness after witness who testifies about how horrible it was to ride the bus. how they were called the "n"
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word. you had to pay your money, you had to walk outside of the bus and whack back into the back of the bus and sometimes the bus drivers would just keep going. it was indignity after indignity and it was really a reminder of what it was link in alabama in 1956. that was more impactful than almost reading through martin luther king's own testimony. >> i can't wait to read this book. i have to read the book because i know van is going to -- >> he'll check on you. did you finally read the book? >> i am going to read the back. the book is called "alabama v. king, martin luther king jr. and the criminal trial that launched the civil rights movement." thank you, dan. >> thank you for having me. >> i also want to make sure you ever know about this, juneteenth, a global celebration for freedom, the first global celebration of juneteenth since it became a national holiday. i'm going to be there along with a whole bunch of stars lifting up their voices sunday june 19th, 8 p.m. eastern only here
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on cnn. so six teachers on leave in rochester, new york for alleged l allegedly sending text messages about students that have been called racist. cnn investigates after this. our. this is roundup weed & grass killer with susure shot wand. this stuff works. sleek curly we all want to fight frizz garnier fructis sleek and shine argan oiplus kera-system up to 72 hours frizz control 97% humidity protection fructis sleek & shine number z by garnier, naturally!
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vulgar and texts about some of the students and parents. texts allegedly sent between the teachers. we get the story from six teachers, placed on leave after alleged group text six teachers assaulting students by name. >> they look up and there's somebody that you guys are supposedsupposed to trust. >> anger from parents and outrage from the super intended. >> i was horrified by the racist and demeaning references used to describe our children. >> images of the text messages posted to facebook by a mother of one of the students mentioned in them, show one teacher calling three students
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the b word, and the c word. quote, okay, i also hate the students, the teacher wrote, before adding, lol. another text wishes one student would quote, beat the f out of another student. as a solution to a conflict between them. the rochester city schools have a student population that's majority black and brown. the teaching staff is majority white. it's a common ratio in many minority majority districts across the country, some experts have said that all schools need antibias training, particularly in districts where teachers and students come from different backgrounds yet after urging staff to participate in voluntary training in rochester, myers said fewer than 15% of the district 5100 person staff have taken her up on it. >> about 700 of our staff have been through training to some extent, and will continue to offer it and make sure that we
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have as many individuals participate in training because it's important. >> and one of the group text, a teacher in the mostly black districts that he'd like to tell 90% of parents, that they are s word parent and >> the six teachers allegedly involved remain on administrative leave as the investigation continues. this is not just a case of workplace venting. she says termination for those involved is potentially on the table. >> there's a difference between saying things that you shouldn't and being humiliating the student. and the text messages, the images, that i read, were humiliating. >> wow. a i hardly know what to say. you just heard the superintendent there. she called the text messages racist, her words. vulgar and denigrating if you
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read them. what are the teachers saying? what is the union saying? >> the teachers are keeping quiet. the union sent a statement out, saying everybody and especially our students deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. some of the teachers are under investigation by the district. that's why we're restrained from commenting further, until all of the facts are in and the investigation is concluded. there's a due process here. there's a union. it will be a long process before we get to the bottom of this. obviously, you can see from the superintendent, how outraged she is. >> this is not the first time. this is the second time in two months for this school district. another teacher was placed on leave after parents alleged he made his students pick seed out of cotton. what's that all about? >> it's remarkable experience for you from the district in rochester. just a few weeks ago, this teacher was placed on leave after an exercise in which students say they were learning
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about slavery and the teacher had them pick seeds out of cotton. there were things posted by parents. what the parents say, they are outraged. they say there's a culture in this school system where some of the teachers, the students feel like, they're not respected by the teachers and maybe they're treated differently because of their race. and that's exactly what the superintendent is talking about. she says that in order to combat this culture, it's to take it he head-on and do the anti-bias trainings. and only 15% of teachers have done it so far. >> thank you. i appreciate it. with no end in sight to the baby formula shortage, many parents are forced to look elsewhere to feed their children. for some, breast milk banks are getting their through this crisis. this week's hero, lucy fink, a
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breast-feeding mom who is donating her excess milk after sharing her journey with an online audience. >> my son is 12 weeks old and he eats 4 times a way. it was my tiktok and instagram followers that alerted me that i had an oversupply of breast milk. pumping from the start was a mystery box for me. i know it is that way for a lot of other moms, as well. ever since having my content, about my nursing journey, i was express one or two more times in a day. i googled how to donate breast milk in new york city. it was easy and fast and the process was rewarding and now with the formula shortage, it's needed manier than ever. >> and a cute baby there. to learn more about her efforts, go to cnnheroes.com. and you can nominate someone you think should be a cnn hero. thanks for watching, everyone.
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