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to say those out to get him aren't that disappointed. they've left the prime minister wounded, effectively clinging to power and looking for more opportunities now to finish him off. so the last couple of years, really testing for boris johnson. i think the next six months will be even more so, erin. >> as you point out with the history of teresa may only lasting a few months after, as you point out, a disguised defeat. thank you so much and thank you to all of you being with us, "ac 360" starts now. good evening, we are waiting for word from bipartisan group of four senators trying to reach agreement on some gun legislation, chris murphy, kristen sinema, representing arizona, connecticut and texas that have seen some of the country' worst mass shootings over the years. this afternoon, senator cornin, lead republican negotiator said the group might have, quote, something, unquote, after their meeting tonight, exactly what,
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unclear. there were at least 13 mass shootings in the country since friday evening as 13 incidents in which four or more people were shot. a map where they occurred from phoenix to philadelphia, also a look at locations of all the mass shootings so far this year. at least 246 and that's just so far. according to the gun violence archive which compiles these statistics, it puts the country on pace to match or exceed the worst year on record. now, in a moment, we'll have the latest from congress, first, though, cnn's bryan tod on the weekend. >> reporter: a physical altercation escalated to a shoot-out saturday according to police with bullets flying into the crowd in an entertainment district. when police responded. >> several civilians suffering from gunshot wounds lying on the sidewalk and in the street. >> reporter: police believe at least four gunmans, 14 shot, three killed, one a suspected gunman. charges filed today including
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attempted murder against one of two suspects, one already in custody. authorities say a responding officer shot and injured him, the other still at large. >> he has not been apprehended yet. is he a dangerous person? >> he is, of course, we requested high bail once arrested. >> reporter: in rural south carolina at a graduation lawn party with 150 guests, police say 60 or 70 shots fired from two cars. eight people were shot, one of them killed. >> i looked at my daughter on the ground, she was out. already stopped breathing. >> reporter: in chattanooga, tennessee, chnightclub shooting shot from a moving vehicle. >> we got to get out front and put a stop to it. >> reporter: additional shootings this weekend, from michigan suburb, graduation party, to a strip mall in phoenix. >> group of people started running every different direction and i, myself, was
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like hiding behind cars because the shots kept getting closer and closer. >> reporter: philadelphia's top prosecutor focusing on gun. >> we have 110 guns for every americans and that includes children so we find ourselves in situations where people simply having a fist fight can turn a street in a busy entertainment section of town into may hem, it's disastrous. >> reporter: new york's governor today signing bills on body armor sales and the age to purchase a semi automatic rifle from 18 to 21. >> when do we become a nation that reveres the right of the ability to possess a gun over the right of a child to stay alive? when did that happen. >> reporter: but in washington, far less agreement on what to do, the mood in philadelphia and elsewhere tonight. >> i don't want to feel like i can't get moment from work safe. >> reporter: bryan tod in philadelphia, do police have lead on the suspect still at
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large there? >> reporter: anderson, if they have leads, are being cagey about it tonight, the da office being careful not to release the person's name, they tell us he remains very dangerous and still out there. we have to reiterate, though, they are piecing together information on scenes of pure chaos from saturday evening, the da office told us the two men whose confrontation started this whole thing saturday night fired a total of about 17 shots at each other within just a few seconds. >> brian tod, appreciate it, more now on the state of senate negotiations underway, this afternoon on the white house, spokesperson said the president is in her words encouraged by the talks and a short time later on cnn, "the lead," told jake tapper he was cautiously optimistic. >> i've never been part of negotiations as serious as these. there are more republicans a the the table talking about changing our gun laws and investigating mental health than at any time since sandy hook. now, i've also been part of many
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failed negotiations in the past so i am sober-minded about our chances. >> that was senator murphy earlier before the talks tonight began, for more on how they're going, joining us from the capitol. is it likely this bipartisan group of senators will have something they can agree on soon? >> well, that's what they're hoping, clearly, anderson, and are up against time. they know there is momentum right now and want to take advantage of that, but look, they still have a bridge a lot of gaps here. there's a lot to cover and they are trying to work quickly but remain very clear-eyed that this could fall apart even as they continue to meet as we speak. tonight, the four senators sinema, murphy, tilis and cornin all together tonight trying to sort through what happens next. we know that some of the things that are on the table right now are incentivizing states to increase red flag laws or put them into place if they're not already into place. safe storage, perhaps expanding background checks. school safety funding, also
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mental health funding. these are all some of the things they're talking about right now. we also know that the full gop senate conference is going to meet tomorrow at lunch, anderson, will kind of take the temperature of the gop. remember as we talked about many times with the evenly divided senate will come down to what 10 republicans will agree to. that is what is going to be able to pass and the only way they're going to get anything through the senate filibuster. >> is raising the age to 21 for semi automatic rifles which is something the president called for, also talked about a ban on assault weapons, but raising the age to 21 would be a step short of that. is that on the table? >> reporter: it doesn't appear to be on the table, my colleague manu raju caught up with senator joe manchin of course a conservative democrat from west virginia, want everyone to listen to what he had to say about it earlier. >> you want to look at two things that could have prevented this, an age requirement would have prevented an 18-year-old and basically a red flag law
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that's basically intended to try to help a person get some mental help. >> do you think there should be a ban on assault weapons, ban on ar-15s. >> i wouldn't have a problem looking at some of these things, what is the necessity. tell me what the purpose is, and that's using for these purposes. >> reporter: but again, they're going to need 10 republicans to join them in that, anderson, and no indication a ban would go anywhere in the senate. we do know some of the lead negotiators were talking about expanding a waiting period for 18 to 20-year-olds for example, maybe looking into juvenile records to try to make sure they are mentally fit to be able to have a weapon. that is something they're discussing. again, we should learn more when they get out of this meeting tonight and into tomorrow as well. >> all right, appreciate the latest. thanks. perspective from a lawmaker who already expressed impatient at the slow pace of gun legislation, of rhode island, this to say to republican mat
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gates' jeobjections in hearing last week that they infringe on the right of do you process. >> spare me the bull shit of cu constitutional right, you know who doesn't have due process, their rights respected, the kids at sandy hook, buffalo, rob elementary and son and on. >> how likely are you to get this offer the senate to the f finish line. >> >> good evening, i don't have a lot of confidence about the senate deliberations. i hope i'm wrong. what i can tell you is we passed really two important pieces of legislation already, one to strengthen criminal background checks. we know criminal background checks work, because 3 1/2 million gun sales have been denied because someone went to buy a gun that wasn't allowed to, the problem is thousands happen without a criminal background check so we sent that to the senate to strengthen
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criminal background checks, to strengthen the loophole, to those are very common sense, supported by 90% of the american people. they haven't even passed those because the republicans are blocking consideration of those two really widely embraced pieces of legislation. we will pass this week in the house, a red flag bill, so people who are seriously mentally ill such that they're a danger to themselves or others that they might commit a horrific crime won't have ability to buy a gun. this is, again, very common sense. lots of states already do this and then we'll pass the protecting our america's kids act that will ban ghost guns and raise the age to own an assault weapon and prohibit trafficking in fire arms, provide for safe storage, and high capacity magazines. so we're going to pass those and send them over to the senate and have a responsibility to answer to that, either the pass the
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bills we pass, pass their own bill, but we've been here before but anderson, we have got -- something has to be different this time. we have a gun violence epidemic in this country. guns are now the leading cause of death of american kids and think about that. we've had more than 27 school shooting this is year, more than 200 mass shootings this year alone, and we have got to do something different and this idea of just, if everyone had a gun, if there were more guns we'd be safer, if that were true we'd be the safest country in the world, we have more guns than people. so we need to do something different and i hope the senate will do their job. >> yeah, senator cornyn outlined potential legislation compromises, bolstering school security, keeping them out of hands of people legally prohibited from having them, clearly those measures aren't enough for you. are they a positive step for you. >> absolutely, we have got to make progress.
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the american people are begging their elected officials to do something to protect them from the scourge and ravaging of gun violence in our country so i, you know, i'm happy, i hope we're going to make some progress, but we're going to keep fighting for all of the common sense proposals that are going to pass in the house because we know taken together, they will make a real difference in the lives of the people we represent and i just, for the life of me, cannot understand why people are unwilling to stand up to the powerful gun lobby and do what's right to safeguard the lives of their constituents. kids can't go to a school or feel safe or a grocery store -- >> president biden, though, he said for people it may boil down to this becoming an issue people actually vote on whether, you know, at the polls, that in, if people are really serious about this, and really want change, it may be the only way to make change happen is at the voting booth and people making this the number one issue that drives their vote.
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that's not happened. i mean that certainly hasn't on the democratic side or those that want some form of, you know, raising an assault weapon ban or raising the age, it's not the number one issue they're voting on. >> yeah, no, president obama used to say that for us, you know, gun safety is on the list of many important issues. healthcare, and education, and climate, and for people who are opponents of responsible gun safety, i think it's often the only issue and this has become a single issue for voters who want gun safety, no one should vote for a candidate who is not committed to doing everything in their power to reduce gun violence in this country and to pass common sense gun safety pro poepzales. these proposals supported by some 80, 90% of the american people. something is broken when the americans are depending this action and the republicans in the senate prevent it from happening. you're absolutely right, it has to be a campaign issue and people have to be committed to
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ensuring they're not going to vote for people who stand in the way of responsible gun legislation in this country or we never get any change. >> thanks very much. coming up, live report for uvalde and continuing search for answers there, and later, candidates in office, questions of qanon, and january 6th h members facing sedition charges ahead. brisket for dinnerer. this is my happy plalace. we've been coming herere, since 1868. my grandmother used to say, don't call me, don't bother me. i'm going out to mow. there's a lot of cushy desk jobs out there, but i make the earth take the shape that i want it to take. there are millions of ways to make the most of your land. learn how to make the most of yours at deere.com finding the perfect project manager isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found him. he's in adelaide between his daily lunch delivery and an 8:15 call with san francisco. and u can find him,
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pay as little as zero dollars for your first prescription. as lawmakers negotiate the shape of possible new gun legislation back in washington, secretary mayorkas back in uvalde, laid flowers at rob elementary, spoke to border patrol agents who responded to the shooting, not to reporters, however, as for the kind of information the people in uvalde are getting from the same officials and all the questions everybody still has, grieving parents still have about how the incident and entire episode has been handled, that continues to be a problem, cnn's shimon
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prokupecz joins us now with more from uvalde. what has it been like for families and reporters, anyone trying to get basic information? are they giving out new details at all about what actually occurred? >> reporter: no, none, anderson. you know, we keep getting sort of stalled and we keep getting the word from officials here that now the district attorney's office is sort of in charge of this investigation with the texas rangers, that they can no longer provide information to us. so, you know, we still try, we still go to the governor's office, still go to state investigators, still go to da's office but they continue to deny our requests for information. so it's been particularly difficult on the ground here to try to get updates on this investigation, what new information they've learned. they're still, as you said, so many unanswered questions and, you know, it can really take weeks if not months before this report comes out from the texas rangers answering some of these
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remaining open-ended questions, anderson. >> what are the big questions that still, i mean, i guess there are so many of them, but what do you think the main things are that still need to be figured out? >> so i think the beginning moments, you know, so much has been made about that hour, over an hour the officers were in the hall, as the gunman was still firing his weapon at those kids but also the beginning moments, we heard a lot about the resource officer, school officer, why wasn't this person at the school, were they supposed to be at the school, but those moments in the beginning of the gunfire when the gunman entered the school, the five, six minutes, the officers retreated. they moved back. he was firing at them, so we need some explanation as to why that is. that's not what protocol is. right? protocol is you go towards the gunfire. these officers, from everything we've been told, retreated. they moved back, moved to get cover, allowing the gunman even more time, more effort to get
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into that classroom and sadly, kill those children. >> there's a state house hearing scheduled for thursday, anything we should expect to learn from that? >> reporter: so it's the investigative committee that they formed here on the rob elementary shooting. i think some of it, most of it is probably going to be conducted behind closed doors because they'll also argue there's still active investigation but this committee is going to have subpoena power, it's going to be able to depose people, they say they're bringing in law enforcement to testify, so we'll see, again, the big question is if they keep doing this behind closed doors, how are we ever going to get answers? these investigations that are taking place when it was convenient for them to answer questions, anderson, as we've said, they were answering questions. stood behind podium, took as many questionsy we wanted, appearances, but once the story became different, once we started questioning the stories law enforcement was providing
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with us, all of a sudden everything is now under investigation so they're not answering any questions. and it's really everybody in the state. everywhere we turn, everyone is saying because the district attorney's office is now running this investigation, they're not going to answer questions. >> shimon prokupecz, appreciate it, thank you. one of the teachers wounded in rob elementary school speaking out, here is what he told abc news . >> started asking out loud, what is going on? and i said i don't know what's going on. but go ahead and get under the table, get under the table and act like you're asleep. as they were doing that and i was gathering them under the table and told them to act like they were going asleep is about the time when i turned around and saw him standing there. one of the students from the next door classroom was saying officer, we're in here. we're in here.
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and then, but they had already left and then he got up from right behind my desk and he walked over there, shot there again. >> rob elementary teacher wounded there in the shooting. someone suching for answers, rolan gutierrez joins us, he represents uvalde. you've been with us. you know, you heard our reporting from shimon prokupecz, getting any answers, it's remarkable to me how silent now everyone from law enforcement to the government is about what actually occurred. there was a shooting in tulsa, within 12 hours we knew all about it from police, we knew the times, who had done what. why is there this wall of silence now? >> you know, anderson, your guess is as good as mine.
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i've been demanding answers to important questions. i was told i was going to get a very vital report, for me. i wanted to know which officers were in that hallway. not which, not to identify them, but i wanted to know which law enforcement units were in there. the last thing i was told, it began with two state troopers and as many as 13 state troopers were in the hallway. that's an important issue for me, the folks accountable for me at the state legislature. my concern here is that there is a lot of finger pointing. no one seems to know who the incident commander is. we've been told it's this one school cop. at what point does the next agency with higher fire power, higher equipment not take command and control? dps is always talking about command and control, clearly, the superior power and clearly there was some breakdown in the entire system here. to be a big concern for me going forward, anderson.
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>> the speaker of the texas house of representatives formed an investigative community focused on the shooting of rob elementary. that committee meets this thursday. do you expect to learn anything from that investigation? who is on that committee? >> well, you know, i'm in the senate, not in the house. the senate has yet to meet and i believe the lieutenant governor said he would wait until all the funerals pass which will be next week. i have no idea what their information they'll be able to glean or what information they're going to get because the local district attorney has shut this whole process down. listen, if there's some criminality out there, i understand that. but it remains to be seen what criminality we can be discussing. cheerl, there was law enforcement error, self identified and admitted law enforcement error by colonel mcgraw. i just want to know where that blame should go. why is it important?
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less to blame people but more to make sure this never happens again. we need joint training with law enforcement entities on the border. that never happened here. that was admitted to me. we need organizations to be on the same communication level. we heard that this man was the incident commander but then dps tells us that he doesn't have radio communications. so did he raise his hands? was he wearing a shirt? how did he tell these folks he was incident commander? there's so many questions out here that have not been answered for us. the community is -- >> i think you make a very important point that, you know, our desire to get answers, i'm sure the grieving families desire to get answers, it's not to blame somebody. it's not to, you know, publicly humiliate somebody who made a bad call or wrong decision or didn't have training or whatever it can be. it's to figure out what went wrong so it doesn't happen
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again. because i mean if police forces don't have the training they're supposed to have by now, if they don't have the knowledge of how to deal with an active shooter, those are all important things to know. i just, i'm stunned. i've never seen kind of a wall of silence like this put up around an incident where so many people have been killed, texas state senator rolan gutierrez, appreciate your time tonight, i know you keep trying to get answers to questions, we'll continue as well. thank you which coming up, russia returns, the bodies, siege in mariupol and other areas of the city as russia steps up air strikes and land offensive in eastern ukraine, live report from the war zone, next. you can be the difference. capella university sees education dififferently. our flexpath learning format lets you earn your bachelor's degree at your pace. finding the perfect designer isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in austin between a fresh bowl of matcha and a fresh batch of wireframes.
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we reached the four month mark of vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine, officials saying the situation is changing every hour. reports of fierce battles as russian forces try to break down ukrainian defenses and hit key infrastructure, also russia returning some of ukraine's war debt, to the latest, in kramatorsk, eastern ukrainian. zelenskyy spoke earlier, what did he have to say? >> reporter: a wide ranging interview with the media and he did underscore the difficulties faced by ukrainian forces in
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that city of severodonetsk, about an hour and a half drive from here, it's been a fierce battle now for several weeks, but also talked about what happened in mariupol, that city on the asov sea that was under siege for two months. he believed perhaps as many as 2,500 of the soldiers taken prisoner by the russians may be in the luhansk and donetsk areas, occupied by russia. he said that the priority for the ukrainians is now to bring them home, but what we saw on saturday in kyiv central morgue is some of the bodies that the russians handed back to the ukrainians. and so begins on a sunny, summer morning, the grimmest of tasks. workers at kyiv central morgue examined the contents of 160
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dirty, putrid body bags, containing the badly decomposed remains of soldiers killed during the two month siege of the port city of mariupol, and in the city's sprawling asovstal steel plant where ukrainian forces made their last stand. ukraine and russia have conducted an exchange of bodies as part of the agreement that ended the siege. forensic examiner lydia has been on the job for three years. since the war began, she's had little rest. we also examined the bodies from bucha and irpin, she says, referring to kyiv's suburbs where retreating russian forces are accused of committing atrocities against civilians. elena torkochova also helping, affiliated with the asov brigade which fought in mariupol, the brigade is a nationalist militia that was integrated into
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ukraine's armed forces. the morgue is already full of bodies from kyiv, from bucha, from irpin, she says, so we have to put them through a refrigerator truck. morgue workers searched the ripped and ragged clothing for documents and tag and bag personal items. this is just the start of a long process. some of these bodies have no identification, so their dna will have to be sampled, and it may take a month, maybe more, to find out who they were. and only then will their loved ones know their fate. finality for the living and the dead, will have to wait. >> it's just, it's, i mean that whole process, it's unbelievable. as we mentioned. you're now in kramatorsk. you were there after the attack on the train station, people may remember back in april, what
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have you been seeing in kramatorsk? >> reporter: not so much what we've been seeing, what we've been hearing. we've been hearing a lot of explosions overnight, it's not quite clear where they're coming from since they're sort of all over the place. but certainly, what is the difference from when i was here before is how much more on edge this city is. the russians have made progress in taking more ground since i was here in late april. what we saw, for instance, when we were coming here yesterday was that going westward were many cars lined up at checkpoints, people leaving the area. even though the ukrainians continue to try to keep the russians at bay, many people fear that the country's hold on this part of the country isn't quite so firm as it used to be.
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right conspiracy group face sedition charges, most serious charges as the investigation into the insurrection on capitol hill last year. tario and codefendists accused planning the attack in advance and in effort to stop confirmation of the election. another, is q-anon or q, the supporters spread all sorts of antisemitic and nonsenseical conspiracies and misinformation, found a niche in the party, but some candidates who supposedly supported q-anon in the past may now be distancing themselves from it. >> with the whole covid thing and a lot people say it's a plandemic, i'm open to the
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possible of anything from what we've been lied to. >> nicolas ferrara, a q-anon die hard. somebody watching this may say how could somebody as intelligent as you are go down the q-anon rabbit hole and believe this. >> because i've seen the evidence. >> false claims like this one claiming that hillary clinton had been arrested did not deter ferrera. >> well, now, you can say that, though they always say future proves past so these things. if they didn't happen like the clinton thing, like the clinton thing, but supposedly they can happen in the future to the day, three or four years to the day, we'll see. >> reporter: one of the ways we found you, you were on this list put together by the liberal group media matters, they identify you as a q-anon candidate, are you? >> you know, i don't know anything about that, i have no idea what they're talking about. there's zero evidence. >> reporter: running for
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florida's second congressional district denies knowing anything about q-anon despite referencing the conspiracy theory on her social media. >> they have a screen shot q-an 0, n awakening where you say your posts inspire me to run for congress in 2020. >> yeah, i think we're definitely focused on uncovering the truth, we want to know what corruption is going on in our country. >> reporter: what is the q-anon slogan, where we go one we go all i guess is the main one. >> reporter: where does that come from? >> it's a good question. i do know jfk had it on the back of his boat, there was a bell, etched into that bell. >> where we go one, we go all. >> do you know that slogan came from john f kennedy, that's where it came from, on his yacht, on his boat. >> reporter: that's a popular answer for q-anon believerers but it's not true, cnn asked the
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jfk presidential library and had no indication it had to do with any of his boats or any indication he said the phrase. in fact, comes from hollywood on wrigley scott's 1996 disaster movie, white squall. >> where we go one, we go all. >> reporter: we've spoken to republican primary candidates who tweeted q-anon stuff in the past but now distancing their selves from it. why are they doing that? >> because they get attacked nonstop. >> reporter: i thought q-anon said they're in the cabal. >> reporter: and then there's a new yorker who moved south, running in florida's 25th district. >> that's me and jimmy on the sopranos. >> reporter: his twitter account has multiple past references to q-
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q-anon. you did tweet the q-anon slogan, where we go unand we go all. >> i didn't tweet my tweets, i don't know twitter, i have people tweet for me. >> reporter: he did know after the 2020 election, thought marshal law may be in place to stop biden's inauguration, even stocked up on canned good and see supplies. those posts about martial law, a lot of those claims all those madness was going to happen in 2021. >> was that q-anon you are saying put that stuff out? >> reporter: i'm saying the community around q-anon, is what was pushing it, these claims that turned out to be false, never materialized. >> so what i was getting actually came from q-anon? >> reporter: i would say from the kind of q-anon community. >> okay. i got it from people that knew me in other states were telling me darren, this is going to, get ready, okay, what are we getting ready for? >> reporter: would you say you're a victim of
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misinformation? >> yeah, but i wouldn't make it like i'm a weak victim. i'm, yeah, uh-huh, sure, because i'm a patriot. so somebody, look at it this way -- let's tell that patriot, because he'll spread the word. so yeah, i'm a victim of somebody's lie at that use my creditability and my patriotism to spread a word that's a lie. >> doherty joins me now. the other two seem clearly to have been pushing tweets about q-anon and now, i mean, the first one seems to be standing by at the, ms. >> reporter: darlene -- >> seems to be pretending that didn't happen. >> that's right, and we've seen that with more and more candidates, gop, who have realized that the q-anon label,
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it's gone out of vogue, you know, given the likes of the q-anon sham and all things like that, but what we're seeing really is that the belief system that has been popularized through the kind of q-anon movement still lives on. i mean you heard from m ms. swafford there she still believes the election was stolen and cites evidence from mike lindel to prove that and then to the more dark side, we didn't touch on this piece but, you know, there is that belief system where that anybody who disagrees with trump or with the republicans is a pedophile and that was popularized through the q-anon movement and we saw even recently stephonik, in the house republicans, tweeted recently a reference to pedophiles so we can see this belief structure is still in place and alive and well. >> it's also fascinating, you were with nicolas ferrera there quoting the cnn slogan saying i know it came from kennedy's boat, like everything with q-anon, it's just not true. i mean --
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>> yeah, i mean -- >> and also him saying, well, yes, that whole clinton thing, wasn't arrested but supposedly it can happen three years from now on that same date. i don't even know what that means. that doesn't make sense. >> we hear so much from people who say i do my own research, i go online, i do my own research. if they did their own research they might have been able to see that jfk never said where we go one, we go all, or the image of that bell circulating online is actually from that very good movie which i know you enjoy, anderson, white squall. so, you know, i don't think they often realize particularly on that point to say, well, this prediction didn't work out but it could in two or three years time, i don't think they quite realize how ridiculous it sounds when they say it out loud. >> fascinate, keep at t i don't know how you do it. more, the former judge and other figures he was targeting.
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wisconsin judge john roamer in his home on friday. he sentenced the suspect to six years in jail. authorities are calling the judge's killing a targeted attack. and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell was also a potential target. gretchen whitmer's name was also on the gunman's list. nadia romero has the latest on it. >> reporter: at 6:30 a.m., the juneau county sheriff's office received a call about an armed gunman. they responded and for nearly four hours tried to negotiate with the suspect inside the home before entering and finding 68-year-old retired judge john roamer zip tied to a chair. police say he was shot and killed. >> this act appears to have been related to the judicial process. >> reporter: police found the suspected attacker injured in the basement from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.
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he survived. investigators are looking into the possibility of a targeted attack, potentially a hit list of public figures. >> he's in critical condition and the investigation is ongoing. >> reporter: the suspect in the shooting has criminal history dating back to 2002 and has crossed paths with judge roamer in the past. in 2005 his case involving armed burglary and firearms came before the judge, who sentenced him to six years in jail. the suspect also brought a civil suit against several law enforcement officials after his 2001 arrester. judge roamer was targeted along with other political leaders. >> there were other targets, and the investigation into those details is continues. >> we notified everybody who we had reason to believe may have been a target. >> reporter: those targets, according to the source, including senate minority leader
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mitch mcconnell, michigan governor gretchen whitmer, and wisconsin governor. judge roamer retired in 2017. tympani cunningham, who worked with judge roamer for close to 30 years, says the legal community is still in shock. >> that's part of the healing process. it's going to take time like with everything. a lot of people have dealt with it personally, professionally. it's tough. he was a very good man. >> this is such a horrific crime. this is a targeted attack on a public official, a judge. it's not the only targeted attack we've seen. >> reporter: the state's attorney general said identifying any further potential threats is now a primary concern. >> we have seen a rise in domestic extremism. i think it's important that we take a look at the protective measures we have in place. >> and nadia romero joins me now from wisconsin. what can you tell us about the tribute this evening for the judge? >> reporter: anderson, it was so
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emotional for the people involved. this building behind me is the old county courthouse. this is where judge john roamer started his career as a public defender. he worked with many county employees, and they walked out of this building so they could see this flag being lowered at half staff at the request of the county board chairman who wanted to honor the late judge. now, we saw those county employees hugging one another and sobbing over his sudden loss. and the community will gather again not too far from here at the justice center, where he served as a judge. there will be a candlelight vigil on friday. anderson? s what's reaction been in the town? >> reporter: anderson, this is such a small town. and we often hear the cliché, it's a tight, close-knit community. that couldn't be more true when you're talking about this area. everyone seems to know everyone. if you need to go to the grocery store from the judge's home, you would have to travel more than
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two miles to get those everyday staples. we went to his church, st. paul's, and when i spoke to a woman who knew him and his family, she couldn't get words out before she started crying. nothing like this happens in this kind of town. the county board chairman told me he was a police officer for 27 years. he can only remember five homicides in those 27 years. anderson? >> nadia romero, appreciate the reporting. up next, as we mark the anniversary of d-day, we remember the troops who risked their live when is they stormed the beach of normandy and attacks nazi soldiers in world war ii. hot tub, why not? and of course, puppy-frfriendly. we don't like to say perfect,, but it's pretty perfect. booking.com, booking.yeah.
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beaches to attack troops. 10,000 allied troops were killed, wounded, or went missing in action. more than 6,000 were americans. nearly 8 decades later, the best defense foundation brought world war ii veterans back to normandy to commemorate the anniversary. about 20,000 people came to meet the veterans during a parade today. the parade was held in a town liberated by american paratroopers during the normandy invasion. the news continues. i want to hand it over to laura coates and "cnn tonight." >> i'm so glad you featured that and them in particular. i'm laura coates and this is "cnn tonight." listen, the numbers are not good. day after day you're hearing about the reality of gun violence in this country. now it's at least 17 dead, more than 80 shot in 13 mass shootings all across the nation just since friday. you heard me