tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN June 6, 2022 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT
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next-door classroom was saying officer, we're in here. we're in here. and then -- but they had already left -- he got up from behind my desk and he walked over there and shot again. >> so, two bullets hit reyes. one went through his arm and lung, and the other hit him in the back. omar jimenez is covering the story from san antonio tonight. omar, good evening to you. that teacher's story is heartbreaking. there are still so many questions about why 19 children and two teachers died that day. why aren't we getting answers from officials? >> reporter: yeah, don, that's been the main question at this point. it's been ten days since the last press conference from the texas department of public safety. they have been referring all questions to the district attorney's office, but we've asked the d.a.'s office for any
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updates into this vinvestigatio, but haven't gotten any answers. even when approach in the person, the d.a. hasn't given those. we've listened to a little bit, as you played the account of the teacher at the school. and for the survivors it is going to be a long journey ahead. that is why san antonio attorney and the parents of four injured child survivors are now suing the estate of the uvalde shooter, alleging in part they intentionally injured their young children, stole their innocence and forever changed their lives. the lawsuit went into more details reing in part, each of these children have undergone extensive medical care, some surgeries. they have experienced unimaginable emotional trauma. the emotional toll they endured is incomprehensible and will be with them the remind owe of
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their lives. they, their families and their community will never be the same. this begins a series of -- to start the process toward any form of accountability, and all of that of course is happening while families continue to bury their loved ones. today is the funeral for eliana, or ellie gargarcia. over the weekend would have been her 10th birthday. just 9 years old. the bottom line is the community, families, parents are left searching for answers. >> omar, thank you. appreciate that. just this weekend there were 13 mass shootings in this country. more than 80 people injured, 17 dead. these shootings happening at a graduation, a nightclub, a strip mall. let's discuss.
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anthony barksdale is here, rosana andrews. i'm glad you both could join us. very important conversation we need to continue to have until something is done about this. anthony i'm going to begin with you. before we get to the spike in shootings, got to get your take on the powerful testimony, really, the experience from the teacher who survived the attack, and officials in vauvalde refusg to answer questions about what happened. do you think they're stalling? do you think that tension is going to go away if they stall? >> they absolutely are stalling, don. they don't want to expose themselves to any more liability than what they're already facing. they know they have -- they crewed it up. they let all of those kids down, let the teachers down. now they're letting the community down, the grieving parents down. by not owning up to what the
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failure was and explaining to them how bad their failure was. >> rosana, the u.s. is on track to pass the record for mass shootings this year. gun violence has been skyr skyrocketing since 2020. how do you explain this rise? >> well, you know, unfortunately the mass shootings are just a symptom of the larger day in and day out everyday experience of cities around our country with gun violence, and i think we -- even before the increase that started really two years ago, even on a "good day" in the united states, we were still having many shootings and homicides and suicides, so we were starting from not a great place, and then you throw fuel on the fire of pulling out sort of every aspect of the safety net in our country because of the pandemic, then the crisis of
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legi legitimatecy of government, the lack of confidence and trust in our police department, which is only going to be reenforced by this horrific experience, so we have sort of a perfect storm of all the things that could go wrong, and then 300 million to 400 million guns in circulation. >> anthony, a gunman with an rar-15 rifle attacking a school in uvalde or a grocery store in buffalo shocks a nation, but people are also dying every day in smaller and spontaneous attacks as just mentioned. why do you think so many people are turning to guns? >> don, guns are just wherever. when they fall into the wrong hands, this is what happens, and it's not just ar-15s, like you pointed out. it's semiautomatics, revolvers, anything they can use to harm others. so, a clear reason from drug
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disputes to gang violence to robberies, carjackings, et cetera, it is out of control. so for each incident, i would just go to the root of guns in the hands of the wrong individual. >> well, rosana, we hear a lot of people blame these shootings on mental health issues. of course that applies to some cases but aren't some people just criminals? >> well, i think, you know, this really is a uniquely american problem. you know, lots of other countries have mentally hill people, have people that have lost home and are filled with despair. lots of other people have countries that commit crimes, but they don't have this level of gun violence. we're not a more criminal nation, we're a more violent nation, and it has everything to do with availability of guns and our ability to -- enact rational
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policies and strategies to do something about it. >> anthony, let's talk about something that happened recently, the mayor chad nougat dealing with two shootings. going to get worse summer. do you think he's right? is it going get worse as the summer goes on? >> unfortunately, don, i think it will get worse. i don't see any signs this is slowing across the nation, and it's going to be tough for the united states. >> rosana -- >> over the -- >> go ahead. >> i was just going sto say, in my home city of chicago in the last six months we have had 61 mass shootings, as defined as four victims or more, and that is the everyday experience of gun violence, these really extreme mass shootings that get all of the national attention are more of the exception. the most mass shootings are
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street violence, altercations that erupt, and that, you know, unfortunately we do know with summer, warmer weather, more people gathering outdoor in public places, that does tend to lead to an increase in gun violence, and unfortunately in our city of chicago and many other cities, the police department's not doing a great job of solving cases. only 5% of nonfatal shootings get cleared or solved. gun violence begets more gun violence if we're not doing a good job of intervening and stopping the retaliatory cycle. >> can we talk about that for a second in you say the changes in policing are impacting gun violence. how so? >> yeah, it's just, unfortunately there's a lot of things happening that are making the situation worse, but i think also the fact that we have this crisis of legitimacy, this lack of confidence in government and
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police right now, and i think as a result we also see police pulling back from their sort of day-to-day responsibilities, and so it -- i think it's adding fuel to the fire. i think the motion that we can either have constitutional policing and reformed policing, or we can do something about gun violence, as those those two things are in opposition is a false choice. we need caution constitutional policing. we need to make sure police are held accountable, but we need them to did their job. >> anthony, what can police do to address gun violence at the community level? i would think there's only so much police can do at this point. it's also going to take work from the government, work from the folks in washington to help them in this mission. >> don, police can do a lot. the constitutional subtraction of the most violent offenders from any community can be done.
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as a matter of fact, if you're just focusing on the key driv drivers, the main individuals or groups that are fueling violence in the community, you can start to have an impact. but that means the police and the prosecutors at the state and federal level all have to be on the same page. the police have to select quality targets, known killers that are sitting right there in the case folders of homicide and shooting detectives. they go to the prosecutors and say, this is who we found to be the problem in this community. will you work with us to make a prosecutable case against them? so this -- some police, yeah, some of these departments need to do a lot better, but don't tell me that it cannot be done, because i've seen it done. >> i've spoken to people, people who are in the law enforcement, and they say they will arrest
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someone on a gun charge, there's a gun involved, and before they get the paper work done, the person is back out on the streets. >> don, if they are arresting the right people, they're going to get what they need. take them federal. if you can't get this done at the lower levels, go to the feds. take them quality and stick with them. work with the atf, the fbi, the dea. they're willing to partner with local agencies. and that revolving door, don, yeah, it's true in plenty of cases, but that's not an excuse to stop going at the killers, the shooters, the robbers, the carjackers. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to turn now the cole west. he is a former republican colorado state representative who introduced a red flag law back in 2018 after a sheriff's deputy was shot and killed near denver by a man who was known to
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have mental illness. that caused such backlash that it didn't pass and cole lost re-election. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, don. my pleasure. >> you were a strong advocate for the second amendment, had a "a" rating from the nra, but you support red flag laws. why are they so important? >> it's time we start focusing on risk factors here. let's say we were going through a national epidemic of stabbings. doesn't seem to me that that would stop our elected leaders from talking about what factors were creating a high risk in stabbings. but once you inject the word gun into this conversation, it completely freezes the political discussion. everyone retreats to their comfortable corners, and
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unfortunately, intimidation tactics from gun rights organizations really please republicans from taking this on as the public safety crisis that it system when i was a legislator, i focused on it from that perspective, and that is there are tools that we can provide to our law enforcement, to our families to make sure that while we're protecting someone's constitutional rights, we're making sure that they don't pose a risk to themselves or to the communities and prior to the passage of the red flag law here in 2019, which was after i left office, we had no rule. we could send someone in for a 72-hour hold, but they were released right back into the community with no follow up, no continuation of care, and no -- of what the risk factors were.
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i thought it was good public policy and still think it is. >> were you surprised how the gun lobby reacted to you sp sponsoring it? >> got to focus on mental health. my questions are, what additional resources are we willing to make to make sure we can provide mental health treatment to those going through a crisis, and secondly, why can't we address this through narrowly tailored policy that addresses -- and responsible gun ownership. i think you can andb for the second amendment but good public policy that reduces risk associated with the usage of guns. >> based on your experience, cole, in colorado, do you have any hope for a bipartisan compromise on guns on capitol hill? lawmakers are saying they think it could happen this time,
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although they're saying they don't want to raise the age, that's off the table, to 21. do you think there could be some sort of bipartisan compromise? >> i'm hopeful, but i view the same fractured lines and same intimidation tactics working once again. i'll give you an example. john cornyn, senator from texas, is one of the people that i think has expressed interest in bipartisan discussions about gun reform. yet just last week, a radio show host in dallas tweeted out, hey, john cornyn, you better not be talking about any legislation relating to guns. and cornyn's immediate response was, not gonna happen. so either our elected leaders are going to step up and take this on, or find new leaders who will do just that. but the republican party, quite frankly, has become kevin bacon
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in animal house where you're standing on the street coroner a riot saying, all is well. all is not well. we are losing americans every day to gun violence and just throwing up our hands saying, we can't touch this because it involves gun ownership or the second amendment, i think it's a complete copout. >> appreciate it. this can for coming on. >> you bet, don. good to be with you. he missed his own primary election night party after he suffered a stroke. now john fetterman may be away from the campaign trail until july. his wife talks to cnn tonight. >> i just knew something was wrong and immediately that second i rushed him to the hospital.
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he went from campaign trail to the hospital on election night. now john fetterman's wife tells cnn he may not campaign again until july as he recovers from a stroke. cnn's jeff zeleny has more. >> reporter: it's been 25 days since john fetterman has stepped on to the campaign trail in pennsylvania. his wife gisele now tells cnn he may not reappear until next month. >> i think he deserves the month break to get back and come back as strong as ever. because this is going to have a tough race and an important race, and i want him to be fully ready for it. >> so maybe july? >> i hope so. yeah, that's my hope. >> reporter: that hope is shared by democrats who are watching his recovery from stroke and heart condition with concern. he revealed his condition
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friday, bluntly acknowledging, i almost died. she defended their commitment to being transparent, pushing back that they downplayed his health condition. >> this is a hiccup. our family is not unique, only we have had to go through it publicly. >> reporter: that spotlight is only likely to intensify, considering the heart patient is now running against a celebrity surgen, with dr. oz declaring victory after a recount. >> left wing radicals are rolling into pennsylvania. >> reporter: republicans are wasting no time trying to brand fetterman as extreme, and he's pushing back by reminding penns pennsylvanians oz move here from new jersey to run for senate. some voters privately raise their concerns. alissa catalano, a friend who
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owns a business down the street from his home says the family tried to balance medical and political. >> my primary concern was don't just focus on getting better. don't worry about everyone. but i understand he has a responsibility right now. but i think what i would say to those people is put yourself in their shoes. >> reporter: pennsylvania voters offered a mixed view. >> i think his wife will keep him on track. if his doctors are confident he can be released and campaign i'm not concerned. >> i think it's kind of a -- creates a dangerous situation. as much for hip as anything. >> reporter: wasn't until friday fetterman revealed he left a series of heart issues untreated for years. in a statement he writes i should have taken my health more seriously. the stroke i suffered on the 13th didn't come out of nowhere. >> i hate that he has to learn it the hard way, but i'm grateful he's alive and will
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have a full recovery. now he's the one who listens to most, not only to me, but you the doctors, and i hope other folks can learn from him and not have to experience it like he had to. >> reporter: jeff zeleny, cnn, brad dock, pennsylvania. >> i'm going to bring in jonathan reiner. fetterman underwent a three-hour surgery that day to implant a defib ril later. you said there were several anomalies with fetterman's hospital stay. tell me about that. >> well, the biggest issue is we don't really have any idea what happened to mr. fetterman in the hospital other than he had a stroke. a team removed a clot and then three days later in a really uniquely unusual moment, he had a defibrillator implanted. strokes are caused by clots that
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form in the heart when the heart fip rfib ril lates or quivers. what is very unusual is for a patient to get a defibrillator. when that was implanted a few day after his stroke was treated, the public was told this was being done to regulate his -- which is not why he had it done. they get them because they suffered cardiac arrest doctors believe they're at risk for cardiac arrest. but his campaign, and as you just heard in jeff zeleny's piece, they called this a hiccup. this is more like being hit by a truck, and for a candidate and campaign that has spoken a lot about being a straight shooter
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and being very transparent, they have been uniquely opaque about what happened to him. you know, most prominently, not making the -- not allowing the treating physicians in lancaster to make a statement. >> yeah. well, you heard from jeff zeleny's interview with fetter man's wife, gisele, she says he may return to the campaign trail in july and deserves a month off to get better than ever. does that sound realistic to you at this point? >> it's hard to tell, because we don't know any of the element of his stroke women do know he was threatening to have a large stroke, but the procedure to remove a clot is really reserved for people who are having or threatening to have large strokes, and it can take a long time to recover from that. and i do think people like mr. fetterman can make a full recovery, and i'm hopeful that we will make a complete and full recovery, and it will take a long tool for people to really start to feel back to
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themselves. but i think the best thing that his campaign can do in the interest of transparency is just tell the public exactly what happened to him, what his symptoms were when he was admitted to the hospital. all we know is his wife said his lip was quivering a little bit, but that's obviously an understatement. and where he stands now and what his prospects are for a full recovery. the public will understand that. the public in general want our public officials to recover. we don't expect them to be supermen, but i think we do expect them to be candid, and there's been really i think a dramatic lack of candor here. >> dr. reiner, thank you. >> my pleasure. the first public hearing for the january 6th committee coming up this week. what will they tell us? who will they question? we're going to tell you what to watch out for. stay with us.
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we are just days away from the january 6th committee's first public hearing. thursday night is in primetime. they're promising to reveal chilling new information showing that our democracy is at stake. joining me now, cnn analyst elliot williams. hi, elliot, how are you? >> hi, don. >> we're getting new detail
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about what to expect at thursday's first public january 6th hearing. the committee will hear from witnesses who telt with the proud boys that day. what can we learn from them? >> a few things. number one because it's the proud boys leading up to january 6th, you can see, as you saw isn't the indictment of several proud boys today, none of it started that morning. it built up over a sustained period going back months and the proud boys were at the center of it. one of the other witnesses is going to be a police officer who had also been wounded by proud boys that day. it's no accident that they're having a uniformed officer testifying there to give you a sense of the extent of the violence that took place on that day. >> the justice department today charged the head of the proud boys, enrique tarrio and four others in seditious conspiracy. explain the new charges. >> enrique tarrio wasn't there
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at the time, so this whole criticism of the justice department that they've only been charging the corner boys who are down there with bear spray on the seen scene of the crime but not involved in the planning that sort of fall apart. what the justice department clearly has done, at least in charging tarrio and stewart rhodes, one of the founders of the oath keepers, was reach the people who were involved in the planning, right? so it's quite significant. and seditious conspiracy, don, that's conspireing to use force to delay, prevent, or minuteder the functioning of american government. it is a very, very serious crime, and you're not talking about assault or theft. this is a being deal. >> when it comes to january 6th, congressman jamie raskin told "the washington post" the committee found evidence of concerted planning and premeditated committee. he said, you don't almost knock over the u.s. government by
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accident. how does the committee tell the story of trump's efforts to stop the peaceful transition of power in the days leading up to the inauguration? >> you can't start telling the story on the morning of january 6th, and you can go back, frankly, to june of 2020 when donald trump was out giving speeches about how the election -- we couldn't trust the outcome of the elections and so on. it goes to election day, and december and the months there after, where there was a concerted effort to undermine faith in american elections. that's how you tell the story. i think people have in their heads that this might have sprung up in one day, but the whole point is this is a vast conspiracy that continues to this day. there's still concerted efforts to cast doubt on the safety and security of our elections. >> look what we got today, cnn's reporting on georgia, this email. this is liz cheney.
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listen. she's the committee chair. >> we are not in a situation where former president trump has expressed any sense of remorse about what happened. we're in a situation where he continues to use more extreme language than the language that caused the attack, so people must pay attention. people must watch and must understand how easily our democratic system can unravel if we don't defend it. >> what she is warning there is trump is an ongoing threat to democracy, and yet trump is mobilizing his maga allies to defend him ahead of these hearings. how does the january 6th committee make sure trump's ally don't distract from the facts. >> it's also breaking through to the american people people may
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not be focused on the fact that american democracy was under attack and remains under attack. i think part is establishing what the president's role was. there's that 187 minutes during the day january 6th where he was aware and not acting. this is egregious conduct. at the end of the day republicans can't successfully counterprogram this event. this is in primetime. they won't have a voice on the committee. the committee has an opportunity to have the public's ear under the lights. >> they can, if the biggest conservative channel doesn't air it. they can -- their viewers won't hear it. >> that's a fair point, don, there's a lot of channels in america. and yes, it is quite significant when a major network chooses not to, but it's not the only network in america. you and i can attest to that, as
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we speak right here. and so there's a lot of people in america. it's an important story. if it's compelling enough -- that's why the committee is bringing in a tv producer to help them plan it. there's an almost no stranl craft in putting on a compelling successful event, and i do think there's a lot there. we'll see what break through. >> dereliction of journalistic duty not of the american people, all of your viewer be able to see it. maggie haberman reported just lack week how mike pence's chief of staff told pence's lead secret service agent that trump was going to turn publicly against pence and there could be a security risk. it really is astounding how much we're still learning and trump's apparent direct role in all of it. >> number one, trump's direct role, but number two, the importance of these senior staffers around mike pence and
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donald trump who can't testify. mike short as pence's chief of staff is senior enough he would have seen or heard everything that mike pence was privy, too but still not an elected official, and someone we're likely to hear from. and those are the folks. these people can really help clarify the story, and filling in facts around the president. so we'll see. i think we'd be likely to hear their testimony, and we'll get more on that in the days to come. elliot, always a pleasure, thank you. a retired judge found zip-tied and shot dead in wisconsin. but that's not all, the alleged killer reportedly had a his of more targets. the wisconsin attorney general is here next. not that one. that's the one. at university of phoenenix, you could earn your mamaster's degree in less than a year for under $11k. learn more at phoenix.ededu.
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a, quote, targeted attack. that's what officials are calling the targeted killing of a wisconsin judge who was found zip-tied to a chair in his home. the suspect found in the basement with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. he's still alive in critical condition. authorities say the suspect had over victims in mind. joinings now, wisconsin attorney general josh kaul. disturbing story. >> thanks for having me.
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good to be on the show, and i'm sorry it's under these circumstances. >> you haven't named these other targets but sources tell cnn the targets included the gorner tony evers, michigan governor whitmer's office confirmed she was a target as well. are any other people at risk? >> we're in the process of following up on this investigation william a don't believe anybody who was identified as a potential target is in any active danger, but that being said we can notified anybody who was identified as a potential target to they could take whatever measures they deemed appropriate. we don't believe there's an active public safety threat. >> you don't believe there were any other targets than the ones mentioned? >> this were but we believe based on the registration so far, there's no active danger to
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anybody else. >> okay. court documents show the suspect had been sentenced to six years in jail more than 15 years ago by the judge. have you learned anything about a motive here? >> the investigation continues. you know, as i mentioned previously, we think this may have had to do with one or more cases that were part of the justice system. as you mentioned, judge roemer sentenced the suspect in this case, and that seems to be the obvious connection. we're follow up with other targets to figure out what connections there may have been. >> so obviously self-inflicted gunshot wound, a firearm was found at the scene. do you know if it was obtained legally or not? >> we're continuing to investigate all aspect of this, including where the firearm came from, whether there were any connections the suspect had. as you said, there was a firearm recovered at the scene. the suspect apparently had a
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self-inflicted gunshot wound, and he's now in critical condition. >> do you expect to be able to speak with him or have you been able to speak with him? >> all i can say at this point is he's in critical condition. if there's an update on his condition or we learn more, we'll make sure to update the public, but at this point the only update is he's in critical condition. >> reacting to the attack, your response is people should be able to have differences of opinion and we should talk respectfully to each other. are you concerned that's violent political rhetoric in this country? >> certainly the fact that this individual had a list of targets and that judge roemer who sentenced him previously was one of the targets suggests there's some motivation connected to official act. i don't want to speculate more broadly on this particular incident, but what i can say is we have nationwide seen a big
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increase in a heated rhetoric where people vilify their political opponents, try to demonize them. we've seen everything from election officials getting threatens to threats to high ranking public officials. we need our elected leaders in particular to make sure while they're disagreeing they're doing so respectfully, they are respecting or system, and they're not enflaming potential violence. >> with that said, are you worried if people don't tone down the talk we're going to see more incidents like this one? >> i do worry if you see violent rhetoric where opponents are vilified, where people suggest their opponents should be put in prison just because they disagree with them politically or they suggest harm should help to something, that would lead to real world consequences. even if a politician understands they're saying something not literally that doesn't mean somebody out there won't take it
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literally. use that platform they have responsibly to ultimately unify our country, to disagree where they do disagree, but to do so respectfully. >> you are calling this an attack domestic extremism. the senate judiciary committee is holding a hearing tomorrow on the growing domestic terror threat. what do you want to hear out of that? >> with respect to this particular attack we are still looking at the motive. nationwide there has certainly been a rise in domestic extremism. we need to make sure we're investigating it. where they're violating the law, that law enforcement is responding and we're of course going to see hearings in just a few days with respect to the insurrection. there were some extremist group at the heart of that and have been charged criminal krlly, and making sure law enforcement is holding accountle anyone who's engage in the any form of
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gallon today. that's according to aaa. that's a 25-cent surge in the last week alone. gas prices up a painful 59 cents a gallon over the past month. there are now ten states where gas averages over $5 a gallon. with states like massachusetts, pennsylvania, and new jersey just cents away. gas prices have been setting records 27 of the last 28 days and there's little hope that they'll be coming down any time soon, with russia's invasion of ukraine, china reopening after covid lockdowns, issues with the supply of oil and increased demand as people look to travel this summer, all sending prices higher. president biden has acknowledged that there is little he can do to -- in the short-term, to lower gas prices. white house officials saying that this is a global problem. but with growing fears of a looming recession, americans are looking for relief as they stare down a summer of tough choices. thanks for watching, everyone. our coverage continues.
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are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! good evening. we are waiting for word from bipartisan group of four senators trying to reach agreement on some kind of gun legislation. tom cornyn, chris murphy, kyrsten sinema, representing arizona, connecticut, and texas, that have seen some of the country's worst mass shootings over the years. the afternoon, senator cornyn, the lead republican said the group might have, quote, something, unquote, after their meeting tonight, exactly what, unclear. there were at least 13 mass shootings in the country since friday evening. that's 13 incidents in which four or more peo
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