are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! good evening. we are waiting for word from bipartisan group of four senators trying to reach agreement on some kind of gun legislation. tom cornyn, chris murphy, kyrsten sinema, representing arizona, connecticut, and texas, that have seen some of the country's worst mass shootings over the years. the afternoon, senator cornyn, the lead republican said the group might have, quote, something, unquote, after their meeting tonight, exactly what, unclear. there were at least 13 mass shootings in the country since friday evening. that's 13 incidents in which four or more people were shot.

this is a map where they occurred from phoenix to philadelphia. there's also a look at locations of all the mass shootings so far this year. at least 246 and that's just so far. according to the gun violence archive which compiles these statistics, it puts the country on pace to match or exceed the worst year on record. now, in a moment, we'll have the latest from congress, first, though, cnn's brian todd on the weekend. >> reporter: a physical altercation escalated to a shootout saturday, according to police, with bullets flying into the crowd in an entertainment district. when police responded -- >> they on bserved civil civil s suffering from gunshot wounds, lying on the sidewalk and in the street. >> reporter: police believe at least four gunmans, 14 shot, three killed, one a suspected gunman. charges filed today including attempted murder against one of two suspects, one already in custody. authorities say a responding officer shot and injured him, the other still at large. >> he has not been apprehended yet. >> he is not.

>> reporter: is he a dangerous person? >> he is, of course. we requested high bail once he is arrested. >> reporter: in rural south carolina at a graduation lawn party with 150 guests, police say at least 60 or 70 shots were fired from two cars. eight people were shot. one of them killed. >> i looked at my daughter on the ground -- she was out. she had already stopped breathing. >> reporter: in chattanooga, tennessee, at a nightclub shooting, three people were killed, at least ten injured. >> it's going to be a long summer, and we have got to get out in front of it and put a stop to it. >> reporter: additional shootings across the country this weekend fred a michigan suburb to a graduation party in virginia to a party at a strip mall in phoenix. >> people just started running, like, every different direction and i myself was, like, hiding behind cars, because the shots kept getting closer and closer. >> reporter: philadelphia's top prosecutor focusing on gun.

>> we have 120 guns for every 100 americans. and that includes children. and so we find ourselves in situations where people simply having a fistfight can turn a street in a busy entertainment section of town into mayhem. it's disastrous. >> reporter: new york's governor today signed bills including a ban on body armor sales and raising the age to purchase a semiautomatic rifle from 18 to 21. >> when did we become a nation that reveres the right of the ability to possess a gun over the right of a child to stay alive? when did that happen? >> reporter: but in washington, far less agreement on what to do. the mood in philadelphia and elsewhere tonight? >> i don't want to feel like i can't get home from work safe. >> brian todd is in philadelphia tonight. do police have any leads on the suspect still at large there? >> reporter: anderson, if they have leads on him, they're being pretty cagey about it tonight. the d.a. being careful not to

release the person's name. they do tell us he remains very dangerous, is still out there. we have to reiterate, though, they are piecing together information on scenes of sheer chaos from saturday evening. the d.a.'s office told us that the two men whose confrontation started this whole thing on saturday night, they fired a total of about 17 shots at each other within just a few seconds. >> brian todd, appreciate it. more now on the state of the senate negotiations under way. this afternoon at the white house, karine jean-pierre said that the president is, in her words, encouraged by the talks. on cnn's "the lead," chris murphy told jake tapper he was cautiously optimistic. >> i've never been part of negotiations as serious as these. there are more republicans a the the table talking about changing our gun laws and investigating mental health than at any time since sandy hook. now, i've also been part of many failed negotiations in the past, so i am sober-minded about our chances. >> that was senator murphy earlier before the talks tonight began.

for more on how they're going, cnn's jessica dean from the capitol. so, is it likely that this group of senators will have something they can agree on soon? >> reporter: well, that's what they're hoping, clearly, anderson. and they are up against time. they know there is momentum right now and want to take advantage of that, but look, they still have a bridge a lot of gaps here. there's a lot to cover and they are trying to work quickly but remain very clear-eyed that this could fall apart even as they continue to meet as we speak. tonight, the four senators senators sinema, murphy, tillis, and cornyn, all together tonight trying to sort through what happens next. we know that some of the things that are on the table right now are incentivizing states to increase red flag laws or put them into place if they're not already into place. safe storage, perhaps expanding background checks. school safety funding, also mental health funding. these are all some of the things they're talking about right now. we also know that the full gop senate conference is going to meet tomorrow at lunch,

anderson, they'll kind of take the temperature of the gop. remember, as we've talked about many, many times, with the evenly divided senate, it's going to come down to what ten republicans will agree to. that is what is going to be able to pass and that's the only way they're going to get anything through the senate filibuster. >> is raising the age to 21 for semiautomatic rifles, which is something the president called for, also talked about a ban on assault weapons, but raising the age to 21 would be a step short of that. is that on the table? >> reporter: it doesn't appear to be on the table. my colleague manu raju caught up with senator joe manchin, of course, a conservative dm from west virginia, i want everyone to listen to what he had to say about it earlier. >> here, you want to look at two things that could have prevented this. an age requirement would have prevented an 18-year-old, and basically, a red flag law that's basically intended to try to help a person get some mental help. >> do you think there should be a ban on assault weapons, ban on ar-15s?

>> you know, talking about bans, i wouldn't have a problem at looking at some of these things -- what is the necessity? tell me what the purpose is, and let's use them for these purposes. >> reporter: but again, they're going to need ten republicans to join them in that, anderson, and no indication a ban would go anywhere in the senate. we do know some of the lead negotiators were talking about potentially expanding a waiting period for 18 to 20-year-olds, for example, maybe looking into juvenile records to try to make sure that they are mentally fit to be able to have a weapon. that is something they're discussing. again, we should learn more when they get out of this meeting tonight and into tomorrow as well. >> all right, jessica, appreciate the latest, thanks. perspective from a lawmaker who already expressed his impatience at the slow pace of gun legislation, david cicilline of rhode island. he had this to said to republican matt gaetz's objections in a hearing last week that they infringe on the right of do you process. >> spare me the bull shit of

contusional right. you know who didn't have due process? you know who didn't have their right to life respected? the kids at parkland and sandy hook and uvalde and buffalo and the list goes on and on. >> congressman cicilline is here with us now. how confident are you in the senate to get this over the finish line? >> ah, well, good evening. i don't have a lot of confidence about the senate deliberations. i hope i'm wrong. what i can tell you is that we have passed two really important pieces of legislation already, one to strengthen criminal background checks. we know criminal background checks work, because 3.5 million gun sales have been denied because someone went to buy a gun that wasn't allowed to. the problem is, thousands happen without a criminal background check. so, we sent that to the senate to strengthen criminal background checks, to strengthen the loophole if the

background check doesn't come back quickly enough. those are very common sense, supported by 90% of the american people. they haven't even passed those because the republicans are blocking consideration of those two really widely embraced pieces of legislation. we will pass this week in the house a red flag bill, so that people who are seriously mentally ill such that they're a danger to themselves or others that they might commit a horrific crime won't have ability to buy a gun. this is, again, very common sense. lots of states already do this and then we'll also pass the protecting our america's kids act that will ban ghost guns and raise the age to own an assault weapon and prohibit trafficking in firearms, provide for safe storage, and high capacity magazines. so we're going to pass those and send them over to the senate and they're going to have a responsibility to answer to that, either to pass the bills we pass, pass their own bill, but we've been here before, but anderson, we have got -- something has to be different this time. in this country. guns are now the leading cause

of death of american kids. think about that. we've had more than 27 school shooting this is year, more than 200 mass shootings this year alone, and we have got to do something different. and this idea of just, if everyone had a gun, if there were more guns we'd be safer, if that were true, we'd be the safest country in the world, we have more guns than people. so, we need to do something different and i hope the senate will do their job. >> yeah, senator cornyn outlined potential legislation compromising, strengthening mental health care, bolstering school security, keeping them out of hands of people legally prohibited from having them. clearly those measures aren't enough for you. are they a positive step for you? >> absolutely. look, i think we have got to make progress. the american people are begging their elected officials to do something to protect them the scourge and the ravaging of gun violence in our country. and so, i -- you know, i'm

happy, i hope we're going to make some progress, but we're going to keep fighting for all of the common sense proposals that we're going to pass in the house, because we know taken together, they will make a real difference in the lives of the people we represent. and i just for the life of me cannot understand why people are unwilling to stand up to the powerful gun lob bi and do what's right to safeguard the lives of their constituents. kids can't go to a school or feel safe or a grocery store -- >> president biden, though, he said for people it may boil down to this becoming an issue people actually vote on, whether, you know, at the polls, that in, if people are really serious about this, and really want change, it may be the only way to make change happen is at the voting booth and people making this the number one issue that drives their vote. that's not happened. i mean, that certainly hasn't on the democratic side or those that want some form of, you know, raising an assault weapon ban or raising the age.

it's not the number one issue they're voting on. >> yeah, no. president obama used to say that. for us, you know, gun safety is on the list of many important issues. health care and education and climate and for people who are opponents of responsible gun safety, it's very often the only issue. and this has to become a single issue for voters who want gun safety. no one should vote for a candidate who is not committed to doing everything in their power to reduce gun violence in this country and to pass common sense gun safety proposals. these proposals are supported by 90%, 85% of the american people. something is fundamentally broken when the vast majority of americans are demanding this action and the republicans in the senate still prevent it from happening. if it doesn't happen now, you're right, it has to be a campaign issue and people have to be committed to ensuring they're not going to elect and vote for people who are going to stand in the way of responsible gun safety legislation in this country, otherwise, we'll never get any change. >> congressman, thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me. coming up next, a live

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as lawmakers negotiate the shape of possible new gun legislation back in washington, homeland secretary yeahmayorkas in uvalde, laid flowers at robb elementary, spoke to border patrol agents who responded to the shooting, not to reporters, however. as for the kind of information the people in uvalde are getting from the same officials and all the questions everybody still has, grieving parents still have about how the incident and entire episode has been handled, that continues to be a problem. cnn's shimon prokupecz joins us now with more from uvalde. so, what it's it been like for families and reporters and anyone just trying to get basic information? are they giving out new details at all about what actually occurred?

>> reporter: no, none, anderson. you know, we keep getting sort of stalled and we keep getting the word from officials here that now the district attorney's office is sort of in charge of this investigation with the texas rangers, that they can no longer provide information to us. so, you know, we still try, we still go to the governor's office, still go to state investigators, we still go to the d.a.'s office, but they continue to deny our requests for information. so, it's been particularly difficult on the ground here to try and get updates on this investigation, what new information they've learned. they're still, as you said, so many unanswered questions and, you know, it can really take weeks if not months before this report comes out from the texas rangers answering some of these remaining open-ended questions, anderson. >> what are the big questions that still, i mean -- i guess there are so many of them, but what do you think the main things are that still need to be

figured out? >> reporter: so, i think the beginning moments. you know, so much has been made about that hour, over an hour that the officers were in a hall as the gunman was still firing his weapon at those kids. but it's also the beginning moments. we've heard a lot about this resource officer, the school police officer, why wasn't this person at the school were they supposed to be at the school? those moments in the beginning of the gun fire, when the gunman entered the school, those five, six minutes, the officers retreated. they moved back. he was firing at them. so, we need some explanation as to why that is. that's not what protocol is, right? protocol is, you go towards the gunfire. these officers, from everything we've been tolds, retreated. they moved back, to get cover. allowing the gunman even more time, more effort, to get into that classroom and sadly kill those children. >> there's a state house hearing scheduled for thursday, is there anything we should expect to learn from that? >> reporter: so, it's the

investigative committee that they formed here on the robb elementary shooting. i think some of it, most of it is probably going to be conducted behind closed doors because they'll also argue there's still an active investigation. but this committee is going to have subpoena power, it's going to be able to depose people, they say they're bringing in law enforcement to testify. so, well see. again, the big question, though, is, if they keep doing this behind closed doors, how are we ever going to get answers? you know, these investigations that are taking place, when it was convenient for them to answer questions, anderson, as we've said, they were answering questions. they stood before podium, they took as many questions as we wanted, they made appearances, but once the story because different, once we started questioning the stories that law enforcement was providing us, all of a sudden, well, everything now is under investigation and so they're not answering any questions. and it's really everybody in the state. everywhere we turn, everyone is saying, because the district attorney's office is now running this investigation, they're not

going to answer questions. >> shimon, appreciate it, thank you. one of the teachers wounded at robb elementary school is speaking out. here's what he told abc news. >> started asking out loud, mr. reyes, what is going on? and i said, i don't know what's going on. but let's go ahead and get under the table. get under the table and act like you're asleep. as they were doing that and i was gathering them under the table and told them to act like they were going to sleep is about the time when i turned around and saw him standing there. one of the students from the next door classroom was saying, "officer, we're in here, we're in here." and then -- but they had already left. and then he got up from behind my desk and he walked over there

and he shot over there again. >> robb elementary teacher wounded in the shooting. now, someone who has been searching for answers in his legislative capacity, texas state senator roland gutierrez joins us now. senator gutierrez, appreciate you being with us. you know -- you heard our reporting from shimon prokupecz, getting any answers -- it's remarkable to me how silent everyone from law enforcement to the governor is about what actually occurred. there was a shooting in tulsa, within 12 hours, we knew all about it from police, we knew the times, we knew who had done what. why is there this wall of silence now? >> you know, anderson, your guess is as good as mine. i've been demanding answers to important questions. i was told i was going to get a very vital report. for me, i wanted to know which officers were in that hallway.

not which -- not to identify them, but i wanted to know which law enforcement units were in there. the last thing that i was told, it began with two state troopers and as many as 13 state troopers were in that hallway. that's an important issue for me, because those are the folks who are accountable to me at the state legislature. my concern here is that there's a lot of finger-pointing. no one seems to know who the incident commander is. we've been told that it's this one school cop. at what point does the next agency with higher fire power, higher equipment not take command and control? dps is always talking about command and control, clearly, the superior power and clearly there was some breakdown in the entire system here. big concern for me going forward, texas. >> the speaker of the texas house of representatives formed an investigative community focused on the shooting at robb elementary. that committee meets this thursday. do you expect to learn anything

from that investigation? who is on that committee? >> well, you know, i'm in the senate, not in the house. the senate has yet to meet and i believe the lieutenant governor said he was going to wait until all the funerals have passed, which is next week. i have no idea what information they're going to be able to glean or what information they're going to get, because the local district attorney has shut this whole process down. listen, if there's some criminality out there, i understand that. but it remains to be seen what criminality we can be discussing. clearly, there was law enforcement error, self-identified and admitted law enforcement error by colonel mcgraw. i just want to know where that blame should go. why is it important? less to blame people but more to make sure this never happens again. we need joint training with law enforcement entities on the border. that never happened here. that was admitted to me.

we need organizations to be on the same communication level. we heard that this man was the incident commander, but then dps tells us that he doesn't have radio communications. so, did he raise his hand? was he wearing a shirt? how did he tell these folks that he was the incident commander? there's just so many just questions out here that just have not been answered for us. the community is very frustrated. >> i think you make a very important point that, you know, our desire to get answers, i'm sure the grieving families desire to get answers, it's not to blame somebody. it's not to, you know, publicly humiliate somebody who made a bad call or wrong decision or didn't have training or whatever it may be. it's to figure out what went wrong so it doesn't happen again. because, i mean, if police forces don't have the training that they're supposed to have by now, if they don't have the knowledge of how to deal with an active shooter, those are all important things to know.

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we approach the four-month mark of vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine, officials are saying the situation is changing every hour. there are reports of fierce battles as russian forces try to break down ukrainian defenses and hit key intrastructure. russia is also returning some of ukraine's war dead. for the latest, i want to go to ben wedeman in eastern ukraine. so, ben, president zelenskyy spoke earlier this evening. what did he have to say. >> reporter: well, sort of a wide-ranging interview with the media, anderson. and basically, he did underscore the difficulties faced by ukrainian forces in that city of recei severodonetsk, about an hour and a half drive from here, it's been a fierce battle now for

several weeks. but also talked about what happened in mariupol, that city on the asov sea that was under siege for two months. he said he believed that perhaps as many as 2,500 of the soldiers taken prisoner by the russians may be in the luhansk and donetsk areas occupied by russia. he said that the priority for ukrainians is now to bring them home. but what we saw on saturday in kyiv central morgue is some of the bodies that the russians handed back to the ukrainians. and so begins on a sunny, summer morning, the grimmest of tasks. workers at kyiv's central morgue examined the contents of 160 dirty, putrid body bags, containing the badly decomposed remains of soldiers killed during the two-month siege at the port city of mariupol and in

the city's sprawling azovstal steel plant, where ukrainian forces made their last stand. ukraine and russia have conducted an exchange of bodies as part of the agreement that ended the siege. forensic examiner lydia has been on the job for three years. since the war began, she's had little rest. "we also examined the bodies from bucha and irpin," she says, referring to kyiv's suburbs where retreating russian forces are accused of committing atrocities against civilians. elena torkochova also helping, she's affiliated with the azov brigade, which fought in mariupol. the brigade is a nationalist militia that was integrated into ukraine's armed forces. "the morgue is already full of bodies from kyiv, from bucha, from irpin," she says. "so, we have to put them in a refrigerator truck."

morgue workers searched the ripped and ragged clothing for documents and tag and bag personal items. this is just the start of a long process. some of these bodies have no identification, so their dna will have to be sampled, and it may take a month, maybe more, to find out who they were. and only then will their loved ones know their fate. finality for the living and the dead, will have to wait. >> it's just -- i mean, that whole process, it's unbelievable. as we mentioned, you're now in crakram kramatorsk. you were there after the attack on the train station, people may remember back in april. what have you been seeing in kramatorsk? >> reporter: not so much what we've been seeing, what we've been hearing. we've been hearing a lot of explosions overnight, it's not quite clear where they're coming

from, since they're sort of all over the place. from since they're sort of all over the place. but certainly, what is the difference from when i was here before is how much more on edge this city is. the russians have made progress in taking more ground since i was here in late april. what we saw, for instance, when we were coming here yesterday was that going westward were many cars lined up at checkpoints, people leaving the area. even though the ukrainians continue to try to keep the russians at bay, many people fear that the country's hold on this part of the country isn't quite so firm as it used to be. >> yeah. ben wedeman, appreciate it. thank you so much. up next, republican candidates for congress who once seemingly pushed qanon conspiracies, what do they say about it now? find out ahead.

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other top lieutenants in the far right conspiracy group face seditious conspiracy charges, the most serious charges as the investigation into the insurrection of capitol hill last year. tarrio and co-defendants accused planning the attack in advance and in effort to stop confirmation of the election. another, qanon, or q, the supporters spread all sorts of an anti-semitic and nonsensical conspiracies and misinformation. they have found a niche on social media and in the republican party, but we've discovered some gop candidates who supported their beliefs in the past may now be trying to distance themselves from it. take a look. >> with the whole covid thing, and a lot of people say it's a plan-demic. i don't know if that's true or not.

>> reporter: nicholas ferrara is running in new jersey and is a qanon diehard. somebody watching this may say how could somebody as intelligent as you are go down the qanon rabbit hole and believe it? >> because i've seen the evidence. >> reporter: false predictions like this one in 2015 that hillary clinton was about to be arrested did not deter him. >> well, now, you can say that, though they always say future proves past, so, these things, they didn't happen, like, you know, like the clinton thing. but supposedly they can happen to the future to the day, three, four years to the day, we'll see. >> reporter: one of the ways we found you, you're on this list pulled together by the liberal group media matters. they identify you as a qanon candidate. are you a qanon candidate? >> you know, i don't know anything about that. i have no idea what they're talking about.

there's zero evidence. >> reporter: darlene, who is running in florida, denies knowing anything about qanon, despite posts on her social media. they have a screen shot of you in a qanon group, where you say, "your posts have inspired me to run for congress in 2020." yeah, i think we're definitely focused on uncovering the truth. we want to know what corruption is going on in our country. >> reporter: what is the qanon slogan? >> well, there's a number of them. where we go one, we go all is the main one. >> reporter: where does that come from? >> that's a good question. i do know that jfk had it on the back of his boat, there was like a bell and it was etched into that bell. >> where we go one, we go all. do you know that slogan came from john f. kennedy? that's where that came from. that slogan was on his yacht, his boat. >> reporter: that's a popular answer for qanon believers who want to deny they embrace the slogan, but it's not true. cnn asked the john f. kennedy

presidential library, which said it found the phase had nothing to do with kennedy's boats or any indication he said the phrase. the slogan seems to come from hollywood and the movie "white squall." >> where we go one, we go all. >> reporter: we've spoken to other republican primary candidates who have tweeted qanon stuff in the past, but now they're trying to distance themselves from it, say, oh, i don't follow q. >> sure. >> reporter: why do you think they're doing that? >> because they get attacked nonstop. i thought qanon said they're in the cabal. >> they're in the cabal, well -- >> reporter: and then there's a new yorker who moved south, running in florida's 25th district. >> that's me. >> reporter: his twitter account has multiple past references to qanon. the few times you did tweet the qanon slogan, where we go one, we go all. >> i didn't tweet that.

i didn't tweet my tweets in the beginning, because i'm not very technical. i had people tweet for me. >> reporter: darren says he knows nothing about qanon but that he didn't believe a conspiracy theory after 2020 election that martial law might be put in place to stop biden's inauguration. he said he stocked up on canned goods and other supplies. those concerns of martial law, as somebody who's followed qanon, the conspiracy theory movement, a lot of those claims that all this was going to happen in january '21 -- >> was that qanon, you're saying, that put this stuff out? >> reporter: i'm saying the community around qanon is what was pushing it. what was pushing these claims, which turned out to be false. they never materialized. >> okay, so, what i was getting came actually from qanon? >> reporter: i would say from the qanon community. >> okay. i got it from people that knew me in other states. they were telling me, darren, get ready, okay, what are we getting ready for? >> reporter: would you say you're a victim of

misinformation? >> yeah, but i wouldn't make it like i'm a weak victim. i'm -- yeah, uh-huh. sure. because i'm a patriot, so, somebody -- let's tell that patriot, he'll spread the word. so, yeah, i'm a victim of somebody's lie. so use my credibility and my patriotism to spread a word that's a lie. >> and donie joins me now. putting him aside, the other two seem clearly to have been pushing tweets about qanon and now, i mean, the first one seems to be standing by it. the -- ms. -- >> darlene. >> darlene swofford. >> she's pretending like that didn't happen. >> that's right. and we've kind of seen that -- >> believing it didn't happen. >> more and more candidates, gop who have realized that the qanon

label, it's gone out of vogue, you know, given the likes of the qanon shaman and things like that, but what we're seeing really is the belief system that's been popularized, through the qanon movement, still lives on. you heard from ms. swofford there, she still believes the election was stolen and she cites evidence from the pillow guy, mike lindell, to prove that. and the dark side of that, we didn't touch on it here, but there is that belief system where that anybody who disagrees with trump or disagrees with the republicans, is a pedophile. a was popularized through the qanon movement and the number three in the house republican, she tweeted recently a reference to pedophiles, so, we can see that this belief striucture is still in place. >> it is also fascinating, you heard ferrara there quoting the qanon slogan and saying it came from kennedy's boat -- you know, like everything with qanon, it's

just not true. >> yeah, i mean -- >> and him saying, well, yes, that whole clinton thing, cl clinton wasn't arrested, but supposedly it can happen three years from now on that same date -- i don't even know what that means. it makes no sense. >> look, i think -- we heard so much from people, they say, i do my own research. i go online, i do my own research. if they did, they would see that jfk never said that, or the image of that bell that is circulating online is actually from that very good movie which i know you enjoy, "white squall." i don't think they often realize particularly on that point to say, oh, well, this prediction didn't work out -- i don't think they quite realize how ridiculous it sounds when they say it out loud. >> donie, keep at it. i don't know how you do it. coming up, the latest details on the gunman suspected of killing a former wisconsin judge and the other public figures sources say he was potentially targeting.

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