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thanks for watching, i'll be back friday night. please join cnn tomorrow for attack on democracy, the january 6th hearings live, special coverage begins 7:00 p.m. eastern. "don lemon tonight" starts now. hey don lemon. >> i'll be covering it late into the evening on this very program and we'll look forward to what is going to happen tomorrow.
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thank you, laura, see you friday. this is "don lemon tonight," on the eve of the first public hearing by the committee investigating what happened on one of the darkest days of our history, we have audio of what the republicans were saying after, comes from their book "this will not pass," going to talk to them on this program, don't want to miss this. but hear kevin mccarthy describing what happened when he was evacuated from office and how he called the president so tell him to call off the rioters. >> i made a phone call to the president telling him what was going on, asking him to tell these people to stop. to make a video and go out. and i was very intense and loud about it. he did put a tweet out, later he did put a video out. i told him i didn't like the
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video but wished that video was first. >> what they said then, what they're saying now. and then goes on, kevin mccarthy calls for bipartisan commission to investigate the circumstances around the attack and to insist, i'm quoting here, we cannot just sweep this under the rug. we cannot just sweep this under the rug, he says. so that's what he said. listen to this, arkansas congressman french hill pleading with his fellow republicans to get the then president to do the right thing. >> for all of you have such a great, wonderful, warm relationship with donald trump, why don't you get on the phone to him, tell him to call joe biden and tell joe congratulations and they out to meet and schedule a meeting. if he does that in the morning, maybe he'll resolve some of this stuff. >> again, that was then, interesting to hear what they're all saying now.
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that is happening as new evidence is still coming out. federal judge ordering right wing attorney eastman to turn over emails to the committee to shed light on what the judge calls quote his and president trump's pressure campaign to stop the electoral count. emails due to be turned over next week -- by tomorrow, the january 6th committee starts to show their work and make their case to the american people, live in primetime. chairman thompson says it's possibility they'll play video from ivanka trump's interview. there's a lot to get to. jonathan martin and alex burns, authors of "this will not pass: trump, biden and the battle for america's future." thanks for being here. >> thanks.
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>> thanks. >> called and said he was intense and loud telling people to stop, mccarthy didn't doubt that trump had the power to stop that attack, did he? >> no, it's one of the most important implications of the audio you just heard, this was not kevin mccarthy saying he called president trump and they shared outrage, or he briefed the president and he took it seriously. no, he saw people rampaging through the capitol, described his evacuation from his own office, and decides who can i call to make this stop, and he calls donald trump. and that decision on its own speaks volumes about the dynamics that day. even more than that, he goes on to say it took a little while for the president to do anything productive in response. that tells you a whole lot more about what kevin mccarthy knows and how not shared in public about how the president
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responded in realtime to what was going on and what else he might have done to try to bring an end to the violence sooner. >> jonathan, here we are, less than 24 hours until the january 6th committee unveils their findings. your newly released audio shows what they thought about january 6th and a committee to investigate that days after it. >> there's going to be dark days and then gets really dark. one thing i should tell you, take the moment to change course, improve, and more importantly be united against what the democrats are going to do in the future. can't sweep it under the rug, have to know why it happened, who did it and people are held accountable for it. i'm committed to make sure that happens. >> went on to say he wanted bipartisan investigation.
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at what point did his view change? trip to mar-a-lago was a month later. >> it was less than a month, back to mar-a-lago before the end of january as you see on the picture on the screen there. once mccarthy realizes his members and lot of republican voters don't care about trump's conduct on january 6th, he loses interest in any kind of accountability and wants to move past it, to borrow his words, sweep it under the rug. keep in mind there was a vote in the house in 2021 to establish a bi bipartisan panel to investigate january 6th and mccarthy turned against it. why? entirely because of pressure from donald trump who had no interest in a bipartisan panel. as we get to in the book, there was frustration in the ranks of the house gop because there was
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support, even among more conservative, even fairly pro-trump members of the house gop who still wanted accountability for january 6th that mccarthy was talking about. >> why did everyone come to the decision to sweep it under the rug, even people who said we can't, what happened? >> politics. >> go on. >> politics. they realized that talking about holding donald trump accountable was going to divide their party and they were better off talking about joe biden and criticizing democrats, that's what their voters wanted to hear to their eyes, made more sense politically. that's what they did. i don't think it was more complicated than a straight and raw calculation based on the politics. go into this in the book at some
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length. i think that the mindset in the days after january 6th in both the house and senate was let's hold trump accountable, and that changed pretty rapidly once the leaders realized their voters didn't want accountability. >> alex, you said politics was well. play this clip, let you respond, jamie herrera butler talking about tweeting out where members of congress were. >> is it true you were live tweeting from the floor our location to people on the outside as we were being attacked? >> yes, those tweets went out, live and public information, broadcast -- >> don't ask us about security if you're telling attackers where we're at. i yield back. >> broadcast live from cspan and on the move there was nothing
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else broadcast. >> alex, what does that reveal to you? >> i think it reveals the extraordinary tension between even republican members of congress in days after january 6th. this is something that republicans have swept under the rugs, democrats used to talk about a little bit more openly than they do today, the fear in those days and in some cases up until today may be folks in congress who represent a security threat to themselves, whether because they're carrying firearms around the complex or bringing in people who might be carrying a firearm. we report in the book the days after january 6th, house democrats were desperately trying to change the screening procedures around the inauguration, the method that joe biden was going to use to travel from delaware to washington, were afraid of attack on the incoming president. just climate of incipient
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violence was everywhere, and it was within the house republican conference. what you hear there, important moment in the book and in the modern history of republican party and house of representatives as deliberative body, one republican confronting another not on ideological or policy or strategic differences but accusing her and calling her to account for sharing information she believes could have put people in physical danger during the insurrection. >> it's just astounding to me. seems like they made these calculations, i think they realized how terrible this was for them, part of the calculation. but really want to play this. get as much sound in as possible. jonathan this is for you, from january 5th, day before attack. congressman gohmert won't vote to certify the electors, then
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shutting it down. >> there is one check left between fraud completely taking over the presidency and the department of justice and the intel apparatus, they were involved, too but i'm not going there publicly. >> i have no doubt that voter fraud existed, exists in every election, is it enough to take 300-some electoral victory and cause us to overturn it? i love you louis but mentioned intel agency involved in this, do we really believe that cia vote switched like on twitter? every conspiracy theory has been debunked but it's hard to do the research to find it. >> 1/6 committee debunking conspiracy theories, part of the
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mission too? >> i think so, going to offer unvarnished account of what happened and who caused it. you hear in that audio there the frustration and really the makings, don, of the breakup between a handful of house republicans and the bulk of the gop caucus. people like kinzinger and fred upton, who chose to retire, have no time at all for the conspiracymongering fringe in their conference but have lived with these members for years and years. even before the election, putting up with that kind of totally unfounded speculation about the cia being involved in overturning the election, that's what radicalized people and prompts him to wind up where he is tomorrow, on the 1/6
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committee, installed by speaker nancy pelosi, someone he didn't have relationship with before that, to put it mildly. >> this is also the day before the riots, worried about what could happen. listen. >> i'm very concerned about this because we have who knows how many hundreds of thousands of people coming here. we have antifa, we also have honestly trump supporters who actually believe that we are going to overturn the election and when that doesn't happen most likely will not happen, they're going to go nuts. >> another conspiracy theory is antifa stormed the capitol, they did not storm the capitol or infiltrate the mob. she was worried about trump supporters becoming violent. republicans knew what could happen. >> you hear in republican conversations amongst themselves in the runup to january 6th,
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true believers think it's stolen, making case for it, and then others who believe it's inappropriate and periodically voices speak up. debbie lesko is interesting one, she's quite a conservative. folks saying we're leading people on, letting people develop a set of expectations about what we can do on january 6th that's not rooted in reality. it's seldom you hear it articulated like in that clip, draws a straight line between the bogus expectations to stop joe biden from becoming president and risk of actual physical danger to members of congress. and boy was she right. >> folks storming the capitol have paid consequences, now we'll see if lawmakers do as well because of this.
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thank you gentlemen, book again is "this will not pass," audio book is out today. we'll see you soon. >> thank you. denver riggleman, a adviser to the committee and former congressman from virginia. thanks for joining, appreciate it. >> how are you tonight? >> well. almost a year of collecting evidence, thousands of texts, emails, phone calls and hearing from more than 1,000 witnesses. what should we expect tomorrow at first primetime hearing? >> time line, think going to do the time line for the public. show video, talking about the police officer, reintroduce the time line to the american public through video and smart way to start things. trying to be concise and roll through a narrative. video is powerful but standardizes the time line for rest of the hearing. bottom line up front as we say
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in the military of what you're going to see in the next month. >> newly released audio of republicans, including kevin mccarthy talking about castigated president trump and then there's the meadows testimony you reviewed. what troubles you about the texts? >> what troubled me, seemed like the conspiracy theories had infiltrated every level of the republican party. heard louis gohmert talking about the intelligence apparatus, not just cia. sadly i'm familiar with every single conspiracy theory with the intelligence apparatus and all are absolutely bizarre. these are individuals who think "the lord of the rings" is a documentary. coming from people ignorant of
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how the government works, that's scary from congressional representatives. looking at private or public communications, open source intelligence, looking at all these things, those text messages were road map not only what was happening in realtime, choosing alternate electors, looking at other ideas for conspiracies to happen, was a road map to the entire republican party in lock step, at least the people on the text messages and in public reporting, behind the stop the steal ridiculousness, a qanon based conspiracy theory. >> your expertise comes from background in military intelligence, you know about those things. committee will focus on the right-wing groups involved in the violence and idea it was premeditated. proud boys, oath keepers, videos of them walking up with arms on
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shoulders. do you believe there's connections between these groups and the white house? if so, what and how? >> that's what the committee has to look at. committee can't walk and chew gum at the same time. looking at data now but there's a lot of data coming in. talking about connections, what the committee is trying to prove, they still have data coming in. looking at six hearings now, wouldn't be surprised if other things are coming based on what you had today. you mentioned 159 emails from eastman, all this data from the archives, other data from other requests that happened months ago is still coming in. still connecting those dots. don't want to take thunder away from the committee but american public, if there's one word to concentrate on tomorrow and rest of the hearings and all the way until the report is released is coordination. that's what the committee is setting up tomorrow with the
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time line, going to try to move the coordination between multiple groups from the day of january 6th. >> which groups? the qanon proud boys? or the oath keepers? or the white house or lawmakers? what groups? >> looking at a lot of groups, there's a lot of investigative teams. right wing extremists we're familiar with, rally planners, individuals in state legislatures, people around trump, congressional representatives, all part of the issue talking about january 6th. all of these groups, all of these individuals, all the planning, all has to be reviewed by each separate portion of the committee that has that responsibility, then they have to merge it and present it to the public in coherent and concise way, then come back -- >> do you think it's provable? >> with the data they have, i think it's absolutely possible.
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>> denver, thank you, former congressman, i appreciate it. thanks so much. be well. >> thank you. >> committee may play video from ivanka trump's interview, we have inside dealers what she and jared kushner, her husband, were doing in the last days of the trump white house, that's next. to freeze your pain and your doubt. heat makes it last. so you'll never sit this one out. new icy hot pro with 2 max-strength pain relievers. ♪ my name is austin james. as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system. with a painless, one-second scan i know my glucose numbers without fingersticks. now i'm managing my diabetes better and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7. take the mystery out of managing your diabetes and lower your a1c. now you know.
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house select committee investigating january 6th is zeroing in on former president donald trump and those around him in the days surrounding the attack on the capitol. what will we learn, cnn global affairs analyst susan glasser. after about a year and a half of discussing this, finally first hearings are going to happen in primetime. the committee says we're going to hear new information tomorrow, chairman bennie thompson says we could see video testimony from the former president's daughter and adviser ivanka trump. what information could she have shared with the committee? >> thank you so much, first of all, ivanka trump, it's notable as we found in reporting new book about trump and the white house, ivanka trump and her husband jared kushner never believed in trump's rigged
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election fallacy, and separated themselves. she and her husband both testified apparently on video for some portion of it to the select committee. there's reports they may show videotaped portions on the day. ivanka trump according to reporting was back and forth up and down the stairs, repeatedly asked by meadows, chief of staff, to go into trump and ask him to call off his supporters. as we know he didn't, recorded a video saying we love you. she hasn't spoken publicly about this. >> you have new reporting, upcoming book with your husband and "new york times" correspondent peter baker on the final days of the election, including what they were doing. reporting about kushner from peter's piece in today's
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"times," he says he understood his father-in-law would not concede and would ask for recounts and file lawsuits but he believed even if there were irregularities it was mainly a way of soothing a wounded ego and explaining defeat. mr. trump would lash out, make outlandish claims, would accept reality and move out of the white house, assumption many made, only to find out how far the president was willing to go. how did he react on january 6th? >> meaning jared kushner? >> well, interestingly, don, wasn't around until late in the afternoon. he's in the middle east, he's now raised billions of dollars, including from saudi investment fund, there's a question being investigated by house committee whether he's leveraging official government work to do so. but he was on a plane back from
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the middle as horrible attack was taking place. he returned home about to get in the shower that afternoon when he receives a frantic, panicked phone call from kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader, as you've been talking about, has radically changed his story from what it was, but pleads with jared kushner to help intervene with his father-in-law but kushner quickly concludes there's nothing he can do. >> your reporting shows a lot of people in donald trump's orbit didn't believe the election was stolen, and you reported on meadows' strategy, what did you learn and what might the committee know? >> for someone not going to be testifying, has been a key witness, before he stopped cooperating turned over thousands of text messages, many
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of which have been released to the public or leaked out via cnn and other outlets, and those really i think are crucial evidence. they show that mark meadows was in words of one of our sources a matador for donald trump, waving the red flag of the rigged election at him, facilitating entrance of what another colleague called the crazies, letting the crazies into the oval office. one of the conclusions i came to after doing this reporting is it's possible january 6th would not have happened had a different and more responsible white house chief of staff been in place. >> susan glasser, thank you very much, i appreciate it. great reporting. next, 11-year-old testifying to congress, telling them how she had to smear blood on herself to survive the uvalde school shooting. >> i could have lost my baby girl.
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among them an 11-year-old who survived at uvalde. she described in chilling detail her experience and what she wants to see following the tragedy. >> shot the little window, went to the other classroom, then he went -- there's a door between our classrooms, and he went to there and shot my teacher and told my teacher -- shot her in the head. then he shot some of my classmates and the whiteboard. when i went to the back, he shot my friend next to me. and i thought he was going to come back to the room, so i grabbed the blood and put it all over me. >> if there was something that you want people to know about
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that day and you, things that you want different, what would it be? do you feel safe at school? why not? >> i don't want it to happen again. >> you think it's going to happen again? >> chair of the house oversight committee, representative, thank you so much. this was gut-wrenching testimony from a lot of folks but 11-year-old, tell me what it was like to hear from a victim so soon after a mass shooting. >> it was highly emotional, it was heartbreaking, there were many tears in the room. from everyone listening. and it was -- it brought to life the pain and suffering of the families in realtime. they know more about gun loss
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than anyone, they just experienced it. but they all spoke with the same voice saying they hoped that we would act, that we would have the courage to pass a comprehensive gun safety legislation and move forward. >> so do you think -- >> we passed a comprehensive package, but i would have gone further, banned assault weapons, the weapons used in both buffalo and texas. >> that's what i wanted to ask you, do you think the victims were heard? do you think that your colleagues, especially on the other side of the aisle, took this seriously enough? were they moved by this testimony? >> i know that many of them said they were watching it, they were listening. hopefully they will be. we did on some votes pick up as many as ten republicans, usually they just vote in block against
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gun safety legislation, this time we did have some republican support. and hopefully we'll have it in the senate. senator schumer has said he has a bipartisan committee working on coming forward with bipartisan proposal. i am hopeful we'll move forward. >> pediatrician who rushed to help also testified. listen to this. >> in this case you're the doctors and our country is a patient. we're lying on the operating table, riddled with bullets like the children of robb elementary and so many other schools. we're bleeding out and you are not there. my oath as a doctor means i signed up to save lives. i do my job. and i guess it turns out that i am here to plead, beg, please, please do yours. >> when you hear pediatrician begging congress to do their
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jobs versus what is actually likely to pass, what do you tell him? >> well, he lost five patients in one day, and his testimony was extremely moving. i hope that my colleagues on both sides of the aisle will open up their hearts and work for the meaningful gun safety reform. it's long overdue. we stand alone in mass shootings, we have more than any other country in the world. if guns made us safer, we'd be the safest country in the world but we're the most dangerous. we need to act. >> mother of 10-year-old rubio laid out a list of demands. wants a ban on assault rifles, red flag laws and raise the age to perfect the weapons to 21. listen to her. >> somewhere out there there's a mom listening to our testimony
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thinking i can't even imagine their pain. not knowing that our reality will one day be hers, unless we act now. >> it has opinion ten years since sandy hook, is she right, is this just going to be more and more parents' realities since congress can't come together on this? >> hopefully congress will come together. and we're certainly not going to come together if we don't try. at the very least we have put people on record where they stand on the gun safety legislation and it will be taken out to an election. personally i think voters should vote for representatives that will work for and pass gun safety legislation. fundamentally we're a democracy and this will be on the ballot coming in the midterms. >> representative -- >> at least we'll know where they stand and they'll force a
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so this happened today, police arresting an armed man earlier this morning near supreme court justice brett kavanaugh's home. charged with attempting or threatening to kidnap or murder a u.s. judge. nicholas john ross called authorities on himself, saying he was having suicidal thoughts, firearm in his suitcase, traveled from california to kill a specific united states supreme
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court justice. dressed in all black, carried a suitcase and backpack with weapons and ammunition. glock, two magazines, zip ties, hammer, screwdriver and duct tape. appeared in federal court, agreed to remain in jail. chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. man said he was upset about the leaked scotus opinion on abortion rights, concerned about a upcoming gun case and felt that killing kavanaugh would give his life purpose. nearly another tragedy. >> really scary business, the list of stuff he had with him, a terrible, terrible thing. it's bad enough that it happened, but we can only be grateful that it didn't get worse. you know, didn't turn into a real act of violence.
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but you know, this is just a sign of how ugly things are out there. the supreme court has this enormous, ugly fence around it now. that's been put up since that leaked opinion came out. i think that's indicative of the security system -- state of affairs of the supreme court now. >> as i said in the introduction, he is still in jail, what do you expect to come for him on these charges? >> i think he's going to be prosecuted. charged with attempted murder, which is a 20-year sentence. but i think in the larger sense, when i started covering the supreme court 20 years ago, they walked around more or less like members of the congress, didn't have security, they were public figures but not under constant threat. that's changed. and it's only going to get more intense, the security around the justices, and it's too bad it's come to that, but given the circumstances, you have to think
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that's the right decision. >> we have to talk about what just happened just this week to judge romer, retired judge in wisconsin was zip tied and killed in his home by gunman with apparently hit list. didn't used to be like this, judges and their families lived their lives publicly and freely. what has changed here? >> i think it's the general ugliness of our -- of our lives. you know, today, there's just more violence -- actually the number of murders is down from where it was in the '90s, but there is this tremendous number of guns out there, public figures get death threats, more than they used to. and it's just, i think, indicative of where we are as a society. federal judge in new jersey,
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someone came to her house a couple of years ago, trying to kill her, wound up killing her son. she's spokeswoman for increased security. there's bill before congress to increase security for judges, i think it's got to be done. there's no alternative, people are in danger. >> jeffrey toobin, we'll be watching tomorrow as you're covering the hearings, why he's in washington not in new york on the set with me. >> see you. sheriff's department says they're out of gas money. that means they won't be able to respond to some calls. plus january 6th committee putting on a public hearing tomorrow. those details straight ahead. teeth plays a significant roler in our overall health. chantell was suffering, and we had to put an end to that. the absolute best way to do that was through dental implants. [ chantell ] clearchoice dental implants changed everything. my digestive health is much better now.
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are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! tonight, new audio, what republicans were saying just before, during and right after the january 6th insurrection. it's all from "new york times" reporter alex burns and jonathan martin. here is republican congress woman debbie talking about trump supporters on january 5th. >> i'm actually very concerned about this because we have who knows how many hundreds of thousands of people coming here. we have antifa. we also have quite honestly trump supporters who actually believe that we are going to overturn the election and when
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that doesn't happen, most likely won't happen, they're going to go nuts. >> we're going to have more new audio in a moment but this is the eve of the january 6th select committee's first public hearing. cnn pamela brown has the latest on what we can expect. >> reporter: after a nearly year-long investigation, the january 6th committee is preparing to share their findings with the american people. and they're zeroing in on one man, former president trump. >> i think that donald trump and the white house were at the center of these events, that's the only way really of making sense of them all. >> reporter: from the beginning, the investigation focussed on the unprecedented efforts by trump and his allies to stop the transfer of power to president joe biden, while trump was impeached by the house days after the riot for inciting the protrump insurrection, the
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committee says it's uncovered more since then. >> the select committee found more evidence than incitement here. >> reporter: the committee interviewed more than 1,000 witnesses behind closed doors including jared kushner, ivanka trump, donald trump junior, rudy giuliani, bill bar and obtained more than 135,000 documents. >> we must also know what happened every minute of that day in the white house. every phone call. every conversation. every meeting leading up to, during and after the attack. >> reporter: the committee is clearly signaling to the justice department which holds the power to charge trump with a crime related to january 6th. >> do you believe it was a conspiracy? >> i do. it is extremely broad. it's extremely well organized. it's really chilling. >> reporter: just this week, a federal judge again flagged possible evidence of a crime, that same judge issued a
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