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after making headlines and getting eyeballs the question now after a powerful prime time opening night comes down to this. what's next? what will come of the january house january 6th hearings? john berman here in for anderson. the answer to that will depend on the answers to a string of other question. can the committee in the coming weeks make the ambitious case it laid out last night? what will the justice department
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which has already brought hundred of charges in connection with the capitol assault do with the information the select committee has uncovered? and will these hearings generate the kind of political consensus that might be needed before the attorney general decides to aim as high as the select committee is already suggesting might be necessary? >> president trump summoned the mob, assembled the mob and lit the flame of this attack. you will also hear about plots to commit seditious conspiracy on january 6th, a crime defined in our laws as conspiring to overthrow, put down, or destroy by force the government of the united states or to oppose by force the authority thereof. >> when committee vice chair liz cheney said those words plot to commit seditious conspiracy while putting former president trump in a plot the implication
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was hard to miss. prior to the proceedings attorney general merrick garland said he intended to watch the hearings, and he apparently wasn't the only one. according to early estimates despite efforts by some to ignore or distract from them, belittle or counter program against them, the hearing last night drew more than 20 million viewers, in short a lot. and we'll talk about the impact and all the questions we just raised. we begin, though, with the question we already have the answer to. how is the former president handling being accused of masterminding the greatest assault on democracy this country has ever seen? the answer, he's lashing out at his favorite child and one time white house advisor ivanka trump. here's what she told the committee about then bill barr's conclusion her father's election claims were unfounded. >> how did that affect your perspective when attorney general barr made that statement? >> it affected my perspective. i respect attorney general barr,
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so i accepted what he was saying. >> okay. so here's how the former president reacted today on his social network. quoting now, ivanka trump was not involved in looking at or studying election results. she had long since checked out and was in my opinion only trying to be respectful to bill barr and his position as attorney general. theirentheticly, he sucked. call it ivanka meet bus undercarriage. i want to bring in cnn's kaitlan collins from the perspective she gain from her extensive tour of duty covering the trump white house, which even by trump standards does it surprise you the former president was unable to resist throwing shade at his own daughter? >> reporter: i think it's a yes and no because of course it's a tactic we've seen the former president employ so many times with so many people that were centrally to his orbit, the secretary of state, chief of staff, but to see it do it with
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his own daughter to put that space between them the way he's doing so today after that hearing, after seeing her testimony which was kind of the most riveting parts of the entire hearing, seeing his own daughter talk about she did not believe the election lies and took the attorney general at his word. and of course that was at a time when the relationship between former president trump and then-attorney general bill barr has really soured because he wouldn't back up his claims. it's still notable to see the former president coming out trying to dismiss his own daughter's testimony about what was happening in the white house by arguing that she was checked out. and i should remind people she testified for about 8 hours, so the idea this is the end of the testimony we're going to see from his daughter is very unlikely. >> it does leave the question is there more there? how is what ivanka trump told the committee that she accepted bill barr saying there was no widespread election fraud square with what she was saying and doing in the days and weeks
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before the election? >> she was telling people to keep fighting back against the fact it was becoming clearer day by day president trump had not won the election. this idea she was checked out and wasn't invauflked doesn't line up with our own reporting. obviously she was there until the end. you saw her exiting the white house with former president trump the day of president biden's inauguration. but benny thompson who's the chairman of the january 6th committee were talking about the proof they had about what she expected to happen on january 6th. >> we have proof about ivanka's participation with her daddy on a regular basis about what was going on. on january 6th she was there in the white house. and so what or who better could have access to what was going on then one's own daughter?
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and for him to somehow insinuate that his daughter had checked out is disingenuous on his part as a father. daughters normally know what their fathers are doing especially when there's a close relationship. >> reporter: and it certainly was a close relationship, still is a close relationship. the day of january 6th there were very few people who wanted to go into the oval office and speak with trump that day. it was something we heard in realtime as it was going on. but the people who were going in including ivanka were trying to get former president trump to call off his supporters, to thel them to go home, to leave the capitol. she was someone who'd gone into the oval office many times. keith kellogg testified today the committee about how tenacious she was going in there and talking to her father. so the idea she wasn't if volved or she wasn't really closely related to what was going on
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that day and the response that was coming out of the white house is obviously just divorced from reality. and i should note she went and testified for about 8 hours to this commit aerobic and trump told "the washington post" he basically gave ivanka trump and jared kushner his blessing to go in there. they did not have to do so under subpoena. they didn't want to end up in a situation that steve bannon or peter navarro has ended up in. so they went in there and testified for hours. that's a notable aspect seeing trump come out and try to put some distance between her is surprising but not really that shocking given of course it's something he's done before. it does speak to the levels he'll go to try to explain away what happened that day. >> it begs the question what else did she say and also for future discussion what's the nature of her current relationship with her father? thank you so much for being with us. more now on the larger what's next questions. for that we're joined by cnn
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analyst norm eisen. he served in the first trump impeachment. also watergate stare hearing witness john dean. i want to start with you. if you are attorney general merrick garland tonight and you're processing what you're seeing and what you expect to see next week, what's going through your mind? >> you're watching these hearings very closely. to use the watergate analogy archibald cox became a special prosecutor when the hearings started, and he tried to stop the hearings. he didn't want them televised for fear they would result in corrupting the trials or not being able to get a good jury. so attorneys general and prosecutors watch these very closely for what they can have implications on any investigation or later trial or indictment that they might bring.
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sole they're paying very close attention. >> so norm, according to cnn's reporting justice department officials were watching for what kind of possible crimes the committee believes it has uncovered. what evidence does attorney general garland need for possible prosecutions, in your opinion? and what does it seem the committee has and doesn't have so far? >> john, thanks for having me back and always wonderful to be on with the other john. i think we need to ask the question a little differently because it's not just attorney general garland, john. it's also the fulton county, georgia, the atlanta da fawni willis moving swiftly to bring a case. we already have federal judges who say trump likely committed
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two federal crimes, john. obstruction of congress by trying to blow up the hearings, the recognition of his certification of his electors on january 6th. and conspiracy to defraud the united states, and that's where we get into the seven-part plan that was laid out yesterday. i think there was already substantial evidence. and we heard more last night. the most important, number one was bill barr. number two was ivanka trump. they showed trump knew he had lost this election, so all of his activity was corrupt. and finally the georgia prosecutor we got reports perhaps brad raffensperger, the georgia secretary of state. he had the infamous trump telling him in a tape recorded call, john, just find 11,780
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votes. so the evidence is accumulating. >> so, john, is there any risk the doj should pursue a criminal case against high level people involved in the insurrection leaning too helavily on the committee? could the defense lawyer argue they shouldn't overlap? >> they'll have their own grand jury, they'll collect their own evidence. i think they are collecting their own evidence right at this time. they have witnesses the committee may or may not know of. justice does not need the hill to help them. >> so, norm, in terms of what's to come jake tapper asked chairman bennie thompson if there are going to be witnesses that describe actual conversations between extremist groups and anyone in trump's orbit. the answer was, yes, there will be. legally speaking how damning could that evidence be? >> depending on how you define
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"orbit," john, it could be very damning. if trump could be shown to be part of the planning of the violence or knows of the violence the more dangerous that evidence is to him, so we'll see. >> all right norm eisen, john dean, thank you both so much for being with us. on a related note the former president's attorney and the man once known as america's mayor is now facing the possibility of losing his license to practice law in the nation's capitol. a new filing from the december bar accuses rudy giuliani, according to the filing he pushed unsubstantiated election accusations in a pennsylvania court on behalf of the former president. giuliani has already been suspended for practicing law by the new york bar. next for us tonight looking ahead to what we can expect to see on monday's televised january 6th hearing.
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looking ahead to monday was installment daytime this time of it januaryf 6th hearings cheney said it will focus on the former president knew but still engaged in spreading false and fraudulent information. >> well, john, what we saw last night was really just a tease for a months long worth of hearings where the committee is going to lay out in great deal and specificity all the evidence that they have they believe points to the fact donald trump was part of a conspiracy to undermine the election results
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and prevent the peaceful transfer of power, and they believe that happened in seven steps, and that's why they've scheduled seven hearings to cover each one of those topics. you mention the topic on monday is going to deal with trump's pedaling the false claims and kept pushing in that respect. and wednesday that he put pressure campaign on members of the department of justice and even attempted to install his own attorney general to try and get them to investigate claims of fraud in other ways to interrupt the election results, now, this is all part of a pattern by the committee. they want to demonstrate this isn't just words, this isn't just theater, they actually have substance to back it up. for instance one of the things they claim, john, that points to the idea some of the people involved in this knew they were doing the wrong thing they say there were members of congress who actually asked for pardons, and one in particular is
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congressman scott perry. perry putting out a statement today saying these claims are false and he never attempted to lobby on behalf of other members of congress as well. representative cheney said they have specific evidence that proves this claim and perry wasn't the only one. cnn has reported the names of three other congressmen as well. the committee will now have that responsibility of showing that evidence and proving that point, and it's something they promise to do over these next six hearings that will take place over the next two weeks. >> on several fronts they did set a bar, and now we will see how they meet it. ryan nobles, thank you very much for being with us. joining us now for their take on what to expect cnn's senior political correspondent and inside politics sunday actor abbey philip and also with us investigative reporter and watergate legend carl bernstein. carl has a great memoir, "chasing history a kid in the newsroom." and his coauthor bob woodward
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just out with a 50th anniversary edition. so many of these compelling moments came from these tape depositions from people inside trump's inner circle, ivanka trump, bill barr, jason miller. how do you think the committee will balance that in their presentation going forward with live witnesses? >> i think these taped depositions really are actually going to be the backbone of the -- the impeachment presentation because they paint the picture behind the scenes. the people some of whom were compelled by subpoena to come before the committee and talk to them who paint the picture of what was going on with president trump on that day and in the months leading up to it. there's no question that watching ivanka trump answer that question about whether or not she believed bill barr when he said the election wasn't stolen was a bombshell moment. and i'm sure there are many other moments like that. watching a jared kushner acknowledge that other members
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of the trump administration threatened to resign because of what was going on, these are going to be significant moments. and there are others. now, the live testimony i think can be important, but i don't think we should rule out just the power of these depositions. they're crisp, they're kind of lawyerly, and i think they're going to be very important in painting a chronological narrative, a fact narrative about what happened in the lead up to and what happened on january 6th. >> and the committee has complete control of a videotape versus a live witness. carl, you've talked about republicans and presidents nixon's own party ultimately pushed him out. obviously times are very different now. still do you think a case made by liz cheney or adam kinzinger is landing on any republican ears? are you hearing any republicans saying they're beginning to wonder and hear about what else
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is being presented? >> not yet. we've got a ways to go, but i think we've got to say to ourselves this is pivotal moment in the history of the republican party and a pivotal moment in the history of the united states, because we now have the narrative that abbey just referred to building an airtight committee doing its work already. they have the goods on a seditious president of the united states, a president who staged the coup to stay in office, the kind of things that happens in banana republics, in authoritarian regimes around the world, now it's happened on that capitol we see on the screen there. it's extraordinary. it's audacious. he is a conspirator, a criminal, he's a constitutional criminal, and he's a president like no other in our history. and so the republican party has to decide what does it do with a knowingly obvious criminal
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seditious president? and that's what the republicans have to do, but there's a bigger question about the people of this country and how they react. donald trump said in response to this, to last night's hearing the most patriotic thing i've ever seen -- describing the january 6th insurrection -- and anyone who disagrees is, quote, an enemy of the nation. i think we need to pause and say to republicans, to americans who is this man? what does he represent? why are continuing leaders of this country throwing in their lot with this criminal seditious conspirator? why are so many people in this country following his every turn? because, i think, part of it is people are looking for information all over the web, all over the media to reinforce what they already believe. and i don't think this is
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republicans only. i think it's a general trend in our culture. but if people are open minded -- and hopefully they are including a few members of the senate of the united states. you know, i did a story on this air naming 21 republican senators who actually disdain donald trump and have said so to people all around them. there weren't denials of that story. i got a call a couple days later from another former senator who had left a couple years earlier and said, carl, the number is really 40. 40 senators, u.s. republican senators who despise donald trump, are afraid of donald trump and now what happens in this country rests partly on their shoulders and how they respond to these stunning hearings. >> well, abbey, look, one thing is clear which is the case being made at least last night had an audience, a big audience, 20 million people. it was prime time which helps
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that, but i do wonder what you think the level of interest might be and how sustainable it is going forward. >> yeah, an audience i guess the size about sunday night football, a pretty major event. and look, the committee knows they don't have a lot of prime times. that is very, you know, rare space, and they're using it judiciously. they're not -- they knew this was their opportunity to speak directly to probably what will be their largest audience in this entire presentation. and so that's why you saw liz cheney and bennie thompson laying out not just the evidence they wanted to present on that day but also an overview of what people would hear over the course of the next few weeks. i don't think they're going to have this kind of audience going forward. a lot of the details we're going to get in the next few hearings are going to be for a smaller and smaller group of people, but they have promised evidence. they have promised proof of the
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things they're saying, and i think people are going to be looking for that. and when it's all over you can probably expect people will come back to see how it is wrapped up in a bow. so the committee understands they're not going to have everybody's attention for all of this, but last night was a big night. it was in prime time, and they knew they had to really -- they had to bring it. and that's why i think what you saw was so poignant. it was designed to be very emotional in nature, and it was also designed to give people a sense of just the scope and the depth of what they have in terms of evidence. >> abby philip, carl bernstein, thank you both so much. coming up the uvalde school district police chief who has come intense criticism is breaking his silence. he's now saying he didn't keep officers from breaching the scene and he was not the one in charge. we have new details next.
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police chief pedro pete arradondo has spent weeks avoiding speaking about the mass shooting and specifically why it took 57 minutes to breach that door and take out the shooter? earlier this month he told our s shimon prokupecz he'd release more information, quote, the family quit grieving. he didn't consider himself the one in charge. arradondo says he never stopped anyone from breaching the door, quote, i didn't issue any orders in that because it was locked and reinforced with a steel jam officers were unable to kick it in. and arradondo said he left both of his radios outside the school because he thought they'd slow him down. cnn has reached out to dps and uvalde school district for comment. here with more is omar himen
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ezin uvalde. you sat down with the parents of an injured student. what do they tell you? >> reporter: well, john, for starters they say he's just not the same as he was before this shooting happened. he actually came to this memorial site with his parents but just saw the faces of his teachers, his classmates, his friends looking back at him. all part of the invisible scars of this 10-year-old survivor who embodies what many in this community are dealing with it's not just about what happened more than two weeks ago at this point. it's about the feelings that have persisted day in and day out. in the chaotic moments after the shooting they grab their injured 10-year-old son through a bus window. students were being evacuated. >> me and my brother-in-law were telling him get out of the window because he came to the back of the window. get out of the window and he
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just hopped out. >> reporter: he was then rushed to the hospital, a bullet had ricochetted into his leg. not long beforehand he was in class when according to his fbi interview transcript summarized by his attorney, the gunman walked in with what he described as creepy music blaring from his phone and said it's time to die, you guys are mine. his two teachers were killed, many of his classmates, too, including his best friend. according to his family he would always tell her mom he would protect her. >> he had told them i would protect her. that day he told her i'm sorry, i couldn't protect her. >> did he see her get killed, his best friend? he watched his best friend get killed right in front of him?
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>> yeah. >> reporter: she's among the 21 faces now living on in memorials and in the hearts of this community. they say their son has visited the memorial sites a different person than who he was before the shooting. >> he don't like big crowds no more. he used to be like let's do this, go do this. >> makes me feel mad. it makes me sad, too. >> why is that? >> because it's not him. i just miss him like dancing around picking on his little brother. >> reporter: it's part of why they're now exploring legal action. potential civil suits against law enforcement, the school district or even daniel defense, the manufacturer of the gun used in the attack. >> we have the right to bear arms but we also live in a society who have a pattern and practice of 18-year-olds doing mass shootings.
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i think i can make a products liability argument that you make a dangerous product and put it into the wrong hands just like anything else. >> reporter: martinez and camacho now face a difficult question with their son. how is he ever going to be able to walk into a school again? >> i don't know. i don't know if -- >> i honestly don't know what we're going to do. >> he's going to have to face his fears because he's never going to put it behind him. they put a grown ass man that go to war that have ptsd can't handle it, and i imagine with a little mind like that, a young mind what he has to go through. i'm never going to know, she's never going to know, you're never going to know what he's going through. >> omar, in terms of legal action you mentioned in your
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piece have the families heard from the gun makers? >> reporter: we haven't heard that up to this point. we've reached out to daniel defense multiple times at this point, but we haven't heard back. the only thing they've posted is on their site calling what happened an evil act, john. but i should also mention, of course, because of what he's struggling with and so many are struggling with here there have been a number of mental health resources that have been available in places all across this community. we were down at the local library earlier and people drove into towns to see how they can offer their mental health services. the school district is also making sure there are trauma trained counselors as they describe them on their summer school campuses as well as available to parents, families and staff as well. earlier this week we also spoke to a law enforcement chaplain who has told us a little bit about what he has had to deal with on that side speaking to some of the first responders who walked into rooms where
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presumably they would have seen the bodies of children or even just having to respond to something of this magnitude, john. this is something that is going to take a long time for this community to get past if they ever do. >> no question, omar. and i know you've seen it first-hand they're dealing with so, so much. omar, thank you ervar much. coming up in the wake of uvalde a renewed sense of urgency and momentment for the gun safety movement, and with that a second march for our lives in washington. the first came in the wake of the parkland, florida, massacre. up next we'll talk to two parkland survivors and cofounders of the march and why this time is different. king debit card... the drummer's making savings simple with a tap... ...round of applause. and this dreamer, well, she's still learning how to budget, so mom keeps her alerts on full volume. hey! what? it's true! and that's all thanks to chase first banking. freedom for kids. control for parents. one bank with tools for both,
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as negotiations continue over an agreement on new gun safety measures at the federal level, activists are planning a second march for our lives tomorrow in washington. the first march four years ago was organized in the wake of the shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. 17 students and faculty were killed, another 17 people injured, when a teen gunman opened fire with an ar-15 style
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rifle. one of the survivors delivered a speech and became one of the most recognizable face of the gun safety movement. >> we say no laws would have prevented the senseless tragedy that occurred. that us kids don't know what we're talking about, that we're too young to understand how the government works. >> x gonzalez joins me now along with jacqueline coran. four years ago you help reignite the gun safety movement and yet there was little done at the federal level. now people are saying this time is different. do you agree? >> yeah, honestly, i do. i think that first of all we have a different president now, and we have a very different organization of elected officials in terms of political leanings. and i think that the leaf has
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turned a little bit in a more positive direction. people are much more open to listening about the facts and are not as keen to make political jabs and score political points against each other. >> jacqueline as you know the senate it in negotiation right now for some sort of legislative action. a federal ban on assault weapons does not seem to be on the table. what lawmakers are talking about are ways to increase school safety, more money for mental health, maybe providing incentives for states to put in place red flag laws and incentives for states to broaden background checks to include juvenile records and that might include some kind of waiting period. will that be enough? >> you know, it wouldn't be enough. but what we need to see right now is something. so if it's universal background checks and money towards extremist protection orders or red flag laws then we'll take it, but moving forward we need to see more.
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we need to see, you know, federal waiting periods. we need to see a ban on assault rifles. we need to see a ban on high capacity magazines because there's so many policies that need to work together to collectively end gun violence in this country. but, yeah, we're going to take what we can get now because if it's going to save, one, three lives in the process that's something. >> i think people forget you helped win some of these changes in the state of florida after parkland. x, what do you want to see happen then now at the national level? >> yeah, some of the same stuff. for those of you who don't know in florida we did manage to pass the marjory stoneman douglas school safety act, which was the first time the nra did not get what they were looking for in a florida legislative pros, which is a pretty big ego boost for us kids over here. but as jackie said anything is better than nothing. and it is a huge change, a huge
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positive change that the law in florida has managed to produce. there are already instances of gun violence that have been stopped, and it's proven it's because of that law. and if we get a lot more of that on the federal level, on the national level it's only going to get better. it's really not that hard to do. it's right there. >> jacqueline, what can the country expect to see at the march tomorrow? >> i think the march will serve as a reminder to everyday americans and politicians alike that there is serious momentum within the gun violence prevention movement. though the march in 2018 was four years ago now, we're going to come out just as strong in every corner of this country. you know, we've seen a lot of social media activism during covid, and i think sharing information via social media is very helpful, but taking to the streets in person for everyone to visualize how widespread the support is for this movement across the country is going to
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be very powerful. >> so x, we just saw a piece in the previous segment about a child who just saw his best friends murdered and his parents are wondering how he'll get through something like this. can you just talk about how you dealt with what happened in your school? >> honestly, i didn't. i'm in therapy now. i'm on anti-depressants. i use medical marijuana. literally i do anything i can to help myself get better, but at the end of the day it's not like it didn't happen. and the only thing that i know that could have stopped it is, you know, at the very least the laws that we got put in place in florida if not including other laws on a federal level. and so i think it's vitally important for survivors everywhere for future victims, for people who have been impacted in any way we need these laws to be passed. we need these laws to be thought
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of, put on the table, you know, talked about and then passed because at this point it's ridiculous and incredibly embarrassing for the senate to continually deny anything is wrong and for anything to be voted on. >> look, i get it. this doesn't end for either of you. i spoke to a survivor from new town who told me she still sleeps with the light on and that was ten years ago. jackie, one bit of advice for the families in uvalde tonight? >> i would say i know what your community is going through because we went through it in parkland, but there is light and there is hope. we've seen so much change since 2018, i mean though we've not seen anything really done on the federal level there has been over 150 state laws passed since 2018 that collectively have saved thousands of lives. so there is so much to be done and hope to be had. it just requires everyone coming together in this country and
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taking a stand. >> it really depends on people who understands the victims and will empathize with them even though they haven't gone through the experiences because it shouldn't be on just the victims to make that change. >> we all benefit from your energy. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up an anti-abortion clinic in buffalo allegedly fire bombed ahead of an expected supreme court decision on abortion rights. our randy kaye has the report next. save 50% on the sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed. plus, free home delivery when you add a base. ends monday.
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and releases stubborn fat all while controlling stress and emotional eating. at last, a diet pill that actually works. go to golo.com to get yours. this week, just hours before the department of homeland issued a warning of potential violence surrounding upcoming supreme court ruling on abortion rights, an anti-abortion clinic was allegedly fire bombed by someone in upstate new york. kbrnd that, we don't know much. there are a lot of unanswered questions. 360's randi kaye has more on mystery. >> reporter: this is all that is left of a women's clinic in buffalo, new york, after someone allegedly firebombed it this week. >> all the glass is broken. many of the doors are going to have to be replaced. of course all the floors, you
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know, there's flood damage because of the, you know, they had to put the fire out. >> reporter: jim hardin is the ceo of compass care. he says their clinic was set on fire tuesday around 2:30 a.m. >> we are not exactly sure how he lit the fires. >> amherst police near buffalo and looking into this case told me they are investigating this as an arson fire, but that's where the mystery begins, like, who did it? and why? harden says he believes compass care was targeted because of the services they provide. it is an anti-abortion clinic, which offers what harden calls ethical-medical care to women considering abortion. >> you will see sign over here with graffiti saying "jane was here." that represents jane's revenge. it is an abortion-terrorist group. >> reporter: at a press conference earlier-this week, harden blamed the damage on a group called jane's revenge, sort of. >> they have said they would strike again in different parts of the state on the lead-up to potential of roe versus wade being returned.
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and they have done that here apparently. >> what makes you think it was this group, jane's revenge, that attacked your facility? >> they left their signature calling card, number one, spray painted on the side of the building. >> who exactly jane's revenge remains unclear. they have allegedly taken responsibility for a similar attack last month on a conservative organization that lobbies against abortion in madison, wisconsin. there, a message spraypainted on the building's wall read "if abortions aren't safe, then aren't either. >> i am standing in front of a sign that is threatening my life. >> madison police tweeted they are aware of a group claiming responsibility for the arson at wisconsin family action, and are working with federal partners to determine the voracity of that claim. and there have been other similar cases. a florida doctor tweeted about damage to the south broward pregnancy help center where she volunteers. the spray painted message reads, if abortions aren't safe, then neither are you.
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along with the words, jane's revenge and the same threat was also spray painted on this pregnancy center in maryland. no suspects have been named or arrests made in any of these cases around the country. back in buffalo, jim harden says there were multiple security cameras at his clinic and the video is now in the hands of authorities. do you know what is on the video surveillance? >> i have not personally reviewed the -- the -- the videotapes. >> do you have any proof from law enforcement that it was jane's revenge? any confirmation? >> law enforcement is by -- by virtue of the nature of terrorism, that it's difficult to kind of hone in on the cells. >> reporter: but just to be clear, at this point, you don't have any answers confirmed on who exactly did this to your facility. >> if we did, they would be arrested. >> did you hear anyone specifically a part of zwrain's revenge? >> i can't comment on that right
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now. i don't want to interfere with the investigation. >> and, john, the ceo tells me that his team has been threatened, both, online and in person. he said those threats do track with threats that he says he's seen from the so-called group jane's revenge. he said he told the fbi and the local police about these threats. he also was able to confirm there were multiple people scene on the surveillance video he says that is now in the hands of authorities and he is waiting for more information. but john, once again, police here telling me they are looking at this as an arson investigation. they have not said anything about investigating this group, jane's revenge, john. >> randi kaye, thank you very much. we will be right back.
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