wolf. >> very disturbing indeed, ryan tod, reporting for us. thank you very much and to our viewers, thank you for watching, i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room," you can always follow me on twitter and instagram, @wolfblitzer. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, idiotic, bs, completely nuts, some of the words from insiders on the claims to steal the election. maker garland on whether he will charge donald trump. plus, donald trump versius niki hayley, an election denier and incumbent who stood up to trump, who will prevail. getting louder. questions from biden's own party whether he should run again. i'll speak to a democrat who

says the president should call it quits after one term. let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erin burnett, "outfront" tonight, mentally gone, detached from reality or just a liar. put star witness of today's january 6th committee hearing was trump's attorney general, bill bar who says in no uncertain terms that he made it clear to trump that the lies about a stolen election were exactly that -- lies. but according to barr, and many other trump aides who testified, trump didn't care. >> there was never an indication of interest in what the actual facts were. there was somewhat demoralized because i thought boy, if he really believes this stuff, he has, you know, lost contact with -- he's become detached from reality, if he really believes this stuff. >> and the so-called stuff being peddled by the president and his rag-tag team of lawyers, this is

how they were described by the trump aides and officials who looked into them. >> they were idiotic claims, b bullshit, crazy, completely bogus, silly. >> the theory was also completely nuts. not only was there not evident of 8,000 dead voters voting, in pennsylvania, there wasn't evidence of eight. >> amid revelations that trump's campaign raised $250 million, otherwise said as a quarter billion dollars based on election fraud lies. yet, according to the committee, most the money went into a pack, a pact that wasn't even used to overturn the results. all of this is a lot for attorney general maerick garlan to make the decision on whether to charge trump or not. tonight, though, making it clear, he is paying close attention. >> i am watching and will be watching all the hearings. >> jessica shneider begins our

coverage on capitol hill. what are you learning about the next hearing, scheduled wednesday morning? >> reporter: yeah, erin, we have five more hearings for the committee to build out its case here. wednesday, 10:00 a.m., vice chair liz cheney says they will be delving into trump's quest to corrupt department officials with the corruption fraud lies. we're expecting former doj official to see testify, but today, though, was a who's who of former trump aides who all agreed, erin, that there was no widespread election fraud. the january 6th committee back to spotlight how former president trump was intent on spreading lies about the 2020 election being stolen, choosing to listen to his allegedly drunk adviser rudy giuliani on election night, instead of the aides telling trump he was likely to lose. >> my recommendation was to say

that votes were still being counted, it's too early to tell. the president disagreed with that. >> was there anyone in that conversation who, in your observation, had had too much to drink? >> rudy giuliani. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. >> giuliani's lawyer denies giuliani was drunk, it was giuliani's advice the president did follow that night. >> frankly, we did win this election. >> take deposition from former trump advisers, including campaign adviser bill steppien who was a no-show at the hearing after his wife went into labor. multiple officials including a trump white house lawyer and bill barr explained the conspiracy theories trump was voicing were plain out false, including the one about dominion voting machines switching votes. >> i never saw any evidence whatsoever to sustain those

allegations. >> i told them it was crazy stuff and they were wasting their time. >> president trump refused to listen, despite barr repeatedly shooting down the lies. >> the claims of fraud were bullshit, based on misinformation. i thought if he really believes this stuff he has, you know, lost contact with, he's become detached from reality. >> reporter: witness testimony portrayed president trump as grasping at conspiracy theories after he lost the election. he said more people voted in philadelphia than there were voters and that was absolutely rubbish. there was nothing strange about the philadelphia turnout. >> so many of these allegations that when you gave him the very direct answer on one of them, you could fight him on it but he would move to another allegation. >> steppien said he considered himself on team normal on the campaign, as oppose today rudy

giuliani's team, who were pushing multiple false claims. >> i mentioned at that time that chris had recently released a report saying the election was secure and i believe mr. navarro accused me of being an agent of the deep state working with chris crebs against the president. >> turning out to be lucrative, trump raised $250 million from donors based on those lies. >> president trump created a separate entity called the save america pact. most of this money went to the newly related pact, not to election-related litigation. >> the committee saying 5 million of that $250 million went to the company that put on the january 6th rally at the elipse at the white house that mof morphed into the march on the capitol and ultimately,

insurrection. >> congresswoman zo lofgren even has evidence that trump's family members benefitted from the money raised. the fiancé of donald trump jr. says she was paid $60,000 as a speaking fee to speak at the elipse at that rally before the january 6th capitol attack, erin, we reached out to kimberly, so far, no comment. >> all right, thank you very much, jessica. and i want to go "outfront" now to a member of the house six, january 6th committee, democrat congressman jamie rasken and congressman, i always appreciate your time. it does seem, you've heard the reporting there, but it seems watching this that your committee is making the case that financial crimes were committed here and of course, you know more than we do at this point. do you believe there is a criminal case? >> well, the key point that came across today was that donald trump was perfectly aware that he was telling the big lie. he was being told by everyone from his campaign manager, bill

steppien to attorney general of the united states, william barr, to all of his campaign advisers, family, this thing was over and, you know, he really needed to let it go, and steppien was pretty clear about that, attorney general barr said his claims were bogus, bs and so on, and yet they continued to disseminate the big lie and then to raise a lot of money on it, more than $200 million so again, we're less concerned with whether or not there was a specific statutory offense committed than making clear to the public that there was no rational basis upon which anyone could conclude that he had actually won the election. and nobody is, nobody is contending that today. at least i haven't heard anybody challenge the overwhelming weight of this evidence. >> so the testimony you played from bill barr, as you point out, he said again and again, he told trump these conspiracy theories of election fraud, they

were false and misguided and then said about trump, quote, if he really believes this stuff, he has, you know, lost contact with, he's become detached from reality. congressman, this is a crucial point. do you think it is possible that trump became detached from reality? that he really just lost it? that he started to believe all this stuff? that he wasn't intentionally misleading people? or do you know that he knew, that he knew and he did know it was a lie? >> you know, the president, the vice-president, the cabinet, all of those people rejected the house of representatives' effort to get them to invoke the 25th amendment to at least meet to consult on that question. so at this point, it's kind of moot. we have to assume that he was a rational actor and i do assume he was a rational actor. there was a lot of money still to be made based on this bogus bs claim as the attorney general

put it and they raised more than $200 million on it. you know, when a political campaign is over, it's almost impossible for the losing candidate to raise any money at that point because no one really wants to invest in a lost cause, a cause that's already gone and yet he figured out a way to keep the money flowing in by claiming that he had won the election and they were somehow battling it out, even after 60 courts had already rejected every claim of electoral fraud they had suggested. >> so the only person really still putting this stuff out in detail and aggressively is the former president, just put out a 12 page statement and goes through all of this again and again, you know, look, even putting in some things here they don't even put on fox news because it has been debunked. but nonetheless, he is going through here, line by line. in it, he says, congressman, i'm sure maybe you have had a chance to read it, we just got it. but a couple lines here

apparently important for your committee. he says maga witnesses were interrogated behind closed doors in order to not record thoeir own, testimony, yet the unselect pseudo committee has coordinated with the media puppets, one of the members of these treasonous committee afraid of? why are they hiding evidence from the public and only showing information that favors the democrats tall tale? i want to give you a chance to respond to that. >> let's start with this. there have been efforts to challenge the legitimacy of our committee and all failed in court. the courts repeatedly upheld the composition of our committee, the purpose of our committee and the legitimate and legal legislative function of our committee. so all of that is silly. nobody has disputed a single fact that the committee has

reported. we are a bipartisan committee that is undertaken a deadly, serious solemn investigation into the worst attack on the capitol of our united states in our history, the first one to interrupt the peaceful transition of power. so i understand there might be more bogus, nonsense, bs claims coming from the former president but that's just quoting his own attorney general, william barr, who he praised so much over the years. >> you're right, he did praise him and you're right that is what the attorney general, you played him, saying about the president today. i want to ask you one other thing today that stood out and got a lot of people talking, congressman, and that was the allegati allegations that giuliani was drunk, that's why he went on to tell trump to do it early, the context was that he was presumably drunk. now, giuliani's lawyer now denying this allegation but i want to understand from you why you felt it was important to

include. >> i don't know that is it was important to include, because i really can't tell the difference between, you know, those two conditions for him. it doesn't make any difference, because what he was spouting as attorney general barr said in his numerous witnesses confirmed was complete nonsense and he was, you know, telling fairy tales about, you know, foreign leaders and deceased communists and so on and it was just one absurdity after another. i think it was, i think the reason why congressman lofgren decided to include that portion was simply to show that donald trump was being advised by serious lawyers, serious campaign advisers, campaign manager, that this thing was basically over. that it was a hopeless enterprise and on the other hand, you had rudy giuliani who may or may not have been

inebriated at that point but who is recommending to go out and declare he actually won the election. so that's an absurd situation and one that is reflective of, generally, the path that donald trump was on. he was recycling the most absurd claims in order to tell the big lie, keep raising money, and then leading all the way up to the disaster that took place on january 6th. >> congressman raskin, appreciate your time as always. thank you. is. >> you bet. >> and i want to go to gloria now our chief political analyst. when you hear congressman raskin, i thought that was important how he addressed the giuliani point there, but talking about today and, you know, where do you think we are? obviously, we're just tuned in here, got another week and a half of hearings, but where are we? >> well i think what we saw

today is a pour rtrayal of a president who was kind of this island inside the white house with the people who wrael worked for him who for whom he had a great deal of respect at one time or another. you have his former attorney general, you have bill stepien who ran his campaign, you have lawyer after lawyer saying, you know, this is rubbish. you shouldn't believe this. there's nothing going on here. and then you have this president listening, apparently, and then deciding that he was going to listen to or believe, we're not sure which it is, right, listen to, or believe the likes of rudy giuliani and the rest who came from the outside and kind of invaded the white house, if you will, because these were the people willing to talk about the conspiracy theories. it's important for people to understand, we always say, i wonder what was going on inside the white house. well this is what was going on inside the white house. rudy giuliani was the trump

whisperer and the people who worked for the president, actually worked for the president, were trying to figure out how to deal with rudy giuliani and the president of the united states. and so what the committee is doing is drawing a line and saying look, he wouldn't believe then, he believed this hocus pocus and then they're going to draw a line in the future about how that led to what occurred on january 6th and tell the people who went to the rally that day that they were played. they were played by the president. >> and you know, when you look at these 12 pages the former president just put out. >> yeah, i'm looking through it. >> the most basic reporting has debunked every single thing in here. go to republican officials in georgia and go through -- it's bogus. but the reason i mention it is that what it shows is that this election fraud lie is not going to end with these hearings. it is not going away. the fact, you got the former

president standing up for it in the 12 pages making it clear he somehow still believes, makes it clear he could be going to run for president again, talking about how he is ahead in the polls in that regard but you got in pennsylvania, one of the key attorneys for the former president during this election fraud now going to be a senior legal adviser for the trump-backed republican nominee for governor in pennsylvania, don' doug mastriano so the players at the core of the election lie are now core in one of the most crucial elections coming up this fall. >> and of course, as he pointed out him, mastriano, if he were the win he would appoint the next secretary of state in the say the of pennsylvania which as you know very well is a battleground state. yes, this is now very common all over the country. you got election deniers running for secretary of state in about 18 states. and they could win.

and this is all a result of what we saw take place and still continuing under the leadership of donald trump throughout the country, which is that people cannot believe their own elections and this was a president who refused to have peaceful transfer of power which is at the core of our democracy. if you don't have that, you don't have our democracy. >> all right, gloria, thank you very much. and next, i'm going to speak to capitol police sergeant who was trampled by the rioters on january 6th. hearings are personal to him. he almost lost his life. so what did he hear today? plus, trump versus niki hayley, now pitted against each other in a race that is an election denier against an incumbent who stood up to trump. >> what i love about nancy, she is not a push-over.

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capitol. goodman says sievry jabbed at him repeatedly, the officer who led senators away as attackers tried to breach the senate floor. "outfront" now, one of the heros of january 6th who risked his life to protect the capitol. police sergeant gonel and i really appreciate your time, glad to speak with you again. we heard from officer goodman today as the second hearing was unfolding for the january 6th committee, how do you feel watching these hearings on capitol hill and seeing footage american citizens have never seen but you actually lived through? >> thanks for having me, erin. i don't know, i think it's good that the american people get to see what actually happened instead of getting their information from one source. and a source that is continuing lying to them and kind of like

don't believe your own lying eyes. and i think the american people need to look at the evidence. i think the january 6th committee is doing a great job presenting the information, to let them know that what happened on january 6th was a political and judicially, a great danger to our system, democratic system and our democracy. >> so sergeant, today, the january 6th committee played a lot of the testimony of former attorney general bill barr and specifically, they played, when he took on trump's claims that the dominion voting machines manipulated votes and that that is what cost him the election. and barr told the january 6th select committee that he warned trump that this was complete nonsense about the voting machines and for trump to keep saying this was in barr's words,

a great disservice to the country but trump continued to push that conspiracy theory about the voting machines again and again and again and trump supporters who went to the capitol where you were on january 6th believed him. there they are. >> went well, except can't really trust the software. dominion software. >> right in the top right hand corner of the dominion voting machine we used was a wifi symbol with five bars so that most definitely connected to the internet, without a doubt. so they stole that from us twice. >> 200,000 people that weren't even registered voted. 430,000 votes from president trump's tally disappeared. >> now, the people who attacked you, and your hand was smashed, shoulder was torn, you had

surgery on your foot. they believed trump's lie and acted violently because of it. do you think, sergeant, he will be held accountable? >> i hope so. like i said, the january 6th is doing a great job laying out the evidence. it's up to the primary justice to make that determination. i hope, personal to me, and i hope that if their charges are warranted and there is enough evidence to make those charges, regardless who that person is, or what position in our government or our government they hold, that those people should be held accountable. because on january 6th, january 6th happened and the person in the white house was doing, orchestrating, and planning of these things. if he gets back in power, there's no saying or telling

what else is going to happen if he gets back to power. and those people who aid and abetted him in terms of orchestrating this horrific day in our history should be also held accountable. i'm disappointed that some of these individuals, especially like on today's hearing, they came forward because there was subpoena or they were investigating. my thing is that i should have come forward sooner during the impeachment and tell the american people what they witness. >> sergeant gonell i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you for having me. and next, two south carolina republicans who stood up to trump after january 6th now fighting to keep their jobs. voters in their state head to the polls. we are hours away from that crucial primary. will they be punished for taking

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his followers. >> you have another horrendous rhino known as crazy nancy mace. >> reporter: along the south carolina coastline, the power of trump's persuasion faces yet another test on tuesday, in two congressional races with heated republican primary contests. trump set his sights not only on mace, the first female graduate of the citadel military academy, but also on congressman tom rice, one of 10 house republicans who voted for impeachment. as a select congressional committee shines a more damning light on trump's conduct in office, the next round of gop primaries offers a new moment to measure the party's mood and direction and highlights a rare divide between hayley, the former u.n. ambassador fully behind mace and trump, backing her rifle, katie arington. >> who is excited to see donald j. trump? i am. i've been waiting a couple of weeks to see big daddy come home

and i cannot wait. >> she embraces election fraud conspiracies and accuses her rif rival of turning her back on trump. >> reporter: on a weekend campaign stop. >> you have to nominate someone who knows how to win. >> reporter: mace told us she has no regrets over certifying the election and speaking out against the violent attack on the capitol. >> what we couldn't do, allow one person the vice-president of the united states to overturn the results of a presidential election, then you're setting a precedent that kamala harris can to that in 2024. >> reporter: yet tip toeing around trump, dialled back some of the early critiques. not so for rice who stands by his vote to impeach, even if it costs him re-election to russell fry, trump-backed state lawmaker. >> i'll wear it like a badge. i think trump is the past and we

need to move on. >> reporter: you think donald trump is the past? >> i think we got a lot of good things done, but with him, a lot of people, but i think he's the past now and we need to move on to somebody else. >> reporter: it's far from certain whether most republicans are ready to move on, but several voters supporting rice and mace say they feel no obligation to follow trump's lead. >> he makes mistakes a lot, you know, i like him, i think he was a great president, but i don't agree with him coming in and trying to influence this election. >> i'm a trump supporter, also a very big nancy mace supporter. >> just shows you people can have these two points of view, right, in one person. so jeff, i know you spoke with both mace and rice and both handling trump in very different r ways. >> reporter: they are, and records are different. mace did not vote to impeach donald trump, rice did. that could be a decider tomorrow night, but nancy mace clearly it

outing her america first policy, a closer line trying to get those trump voter and see in our conversations with these voters, erin, as we heard last month in georgia and other states as well, people are perfectly happy to support donald trump and not follow his lead. trauma rice has a much harder hill to climb tomorrow, no question at all, but erin, as this is all unfolding with the january 6th hearings back in washington, certainly reviving trump's role in all of this. we'll see if it affects tomorrow's election. >> going to be crucial. jeff zelany, thank you very much from charleston tonight. next, whispers for biden to step aside in 2024 are not really whispers anymore. i'll talk to a member of the dnc who says it is time for a new democratic ticket in 2024, plus chilling new video from russian attack helicopters taking out a crucial ukrainian stronghold.

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nearly 900. it's been grim, and just more grim news adding to the economic anxiety that has been gripping the united states. the white house insists the american people are, quote, well positioned to face these challenges. the white house also says president biden intends to run for re-election, reassurance after influential democratic congressman cortez struggled to answer a very simple question. would she support pbiden in 202? >> we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but i think if the president has a vision and that's something certainly we're all willing to entertain and examine when the time comes. >> that's not a yes. >> i believe the president has been doing a very good job so far and, you know, should he run again, i think that i -- you know, it's we'll take a look at it. >> "outfront" now, steve samati, florida based member of the democratic national committee. he's taken a look at it, said

biden should announce he's not running for re-election as soon as midterms are over. and i want to be clear, you are a supporter of president biden, but you don't think he should run for re-election. how come? >> yes, and thanks, erin, for having me. first of all, i think joe biden has done an amazing job as president. he's passed some historic legislation in the infrastructure bill. he's really helped to regulate ghost guns through atf. he's helped student loan borrowers significantly since he took office and most importantly, perhaps, with regards to the russian aggression, he's effectively led a nato coalition so far. the problem is, he's not, in his administration is not effectively communicating those wins which is part of the reason you're seeing his approval ratings hover in the 30s. >> so, okay. but what's your reason for, i mean is that your reason for not thinking he should run again, or is it just quite simply as david

axelrod said at the end of his next term would be closer to 90 than 80, what is the reason? >> it's a host of factors. the first being that the approval rating is not where it should be at this point, but also more importantly, if you look at the polls with regards to the direction of the country, less than a quarter of americans think our country is on the right track. with polls like that, people are going to be looking for a changed candidate. they're not going to be looking to vote for an incumbent with approval ratings down in the 30s. >> so let me ask you, the former president just put out a 12 page read about the january 6th committee and at the end he says something important. he says, this is near what we talk about the january 6th committee, an attempt to stop a man that is leading in every poll against both republicans and democrats from wide margins from running again for the presidency. they're doing everything in their power to stop me, but we can't be stop. we have to save america. so president biden says he's

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>> reporter: there's no end in sight to this war, but its horror is plain to see. an old woman crosses herself in prayer as troops fight street to street. >> get back, get back. >> reporter: it's the battle in and around the city of severodonetsk where the ukrainian president says the fate of donbas in eastern ukraine is being decided. but it seems more a case of when, not if, this devastated region will fall into russian hands. the embattled ukrainian president is again expressing his frustration. "ukraine needs modern missile defense systems," he says in his latest address. "did we get them? no. do we need them? yes." on both sides, there are signs of fatigue setting in, but these latest images from the russian

defense ministry show its forces on the offensive. a squadron of attack helicopters hitting what russian military officials say are ukrainian positions. target hit, the pilot reports. thanks very much, guys. god be with you, comes the response. by concentrating its fire, russia appears to be gaining momentum. >> translator: operational tactical and army aviation hit three ukrainian command posts in 25 areas of concentration of manpower and military equipment. as a result, more than 150 ukrainian nationals, 6 tanks, 5 field artillery pieces and 10 special vehicles for various purposes were destroyed. >> reporter: of course, russia is paying a heavy price for waging this war, what it calls its special military operation in ukraine too. it's estimated to have lost thousands of troops and countless tanks and other

armored vehicles, some of which have been placed here in the center of the capital, kyiv, on public display. but nearly four months into this grinding and relentless conflict, ukraine seems dangerously outnumbered and outgunned. from the black sea, russia's naval bombardment continues apace. these four cruise missiles fired at a warehouse of anti-tank weapons supplied by the united states and its allies according to the russian military. ukraine says the missiles hit mostly residential areas in the west of the country, injuring 22 civilians, including a 12-year-old child. of course, ukrainian forces are fighting back, like here near the northeastern city of kharkiv, where they say this old captured russian rocket launcher has been turned on the invaders. but ukrainian officials say they need many more long-range

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cornyn, the lead republican negotiator on gun legislation, telling cnn he expects a gun safety bill on the senate floor by next week. it is the first bit of progress on an issue that democratic senator chris murphy has championed for a decade. sunlen serfaty is outfront. >> reporter: this picture and quote from mister rogers has been hanging in senator murphy's office for a decade. >> it's a quote about the importance of helpers. >> reporter: first going up in the days after the 2012 shootings in newtown, remaining on the wall through over 3,000 mass shootings and multiple legislative failures on gun control since. today murphy is testing his own ability to be a helper, tantalizingly close to reaching a deal on capitol hill that for his entire career in the senate has been out of reach. in december of 2012, 20 children were murdered at sandy hook elementary school in newtown,

connecticut, in his home district. murphy, then only 39 years old at the time, had won his election to the senate only a month before and hadn't even been sworn into office yet. with two young sons of his own, the personal impact he felt as a father fueled his response. >> my oldest son is the same age as those kids in sandy hook. he just finished first grade. my wife and i are the same age as those parents, and i am furious. >> reporter: this thrust the new senator into the center of one of the most politically complicated and emotionally charged debates. >> i never imagined that my maiden speech would be about guns or about gun violence. >> reporter: a debate he admits he was entirely unprepared for. >> i'm pretty embarrassed that prior to sandy hook, i hadn't worked on the issue of gun violence. >> reporter: ten years later -- >> what are we doing? >> reporter: -- the issue has become central to his political

identity and a personal quest. >> this, you know, was a calling and a mission in a way that i, you know, had never felt before. >> reporter: murphy tried to capitalize on fresh political will in the wake of each new shooting to push through new gun control laws. >> i'm going to remain on this floor until we get some signal, some sign that we can come together. >> reporter: and then harnessing the outrage -- >> the amendment is not agreed to. >> reporter: -- when those efforts failed. >> i'm at my wits' end. >> reporter: murphy along with his republican counterparts are trying again, and he says this time feels different. >> i still think there are more paths to failure than there are to success, but we've never gotten this far on complicated, comprehensive negotiations before. >> reporter: the fate of a deal still hanging in the balance on capitol hill for the country and for murphy to deliver for newtown. >> as much as i will feel a professional failure if i don't

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