evacuations. the flooding washed out roads and making it unsafe to travel, impossible to evacuate. yellowstone is going to be closed to visitors until at least tomorrow. >> once again, it's election night in america. and once again, we're waiting to see what message exactly is resonating with republican voters in places like south carolina. results of some new key tests of donald trump's power over his party there and of course elsewhere. now, they say that revenge is a dish best served cold. well, let's see whether voters in states where republican incumbents refused to precisely follow trump will find themselves now on the menu. it's not that it's the first time that trump's personal persona non gratas have been challenged, but these are the first so-called trump revenge primaries you could say. at least since the january 6th hearings have gotten under way. for the first time since the broader electorate have had an

opportunity to hear testimony about the events leading up to the insurrection, and donald trump's possible role in fomenting and pushing known election lies. known because even his family members and top republican aides were learning were adamant there simply was no there there. now, trump is not on any of these ballots. but the connective tissue is a platform that echoes his sentiments. but as much as the committee has tried to convey that what we saw on january 6th is a continued threat, the question is whether these hearings impact the voters at all. perhaps giving them any pause about electing a trump-backed candidate, assuming of course they even watched these hearings. and even still, the 2020 lies are casting a very big shadow over many of these 2022 races. particularly in south carolina, where the polls have now closed but votes are still being counted. so here's where that revenge part comes in again. you have two incumbent

republican members of congress in this deep red state, and they're fighting to stay after breaking with the ex-president over his lies. time rice is one of ten republicans in the house who voted to impeach trump for incitement of insurrection. you have nancy mace who bucked trump and voted to certify president biden's victory on just her third day in the u.s. congress. so perhaps unsurprisingly, trump is now throwing his weight behind both of their challengers. his debunked fraud claims are also at the center of gop contests in the swing state of nevada tonight. polls there are still open until the end of this hour, so stay tuned on that. and running for senate with trump's stamp of approval is former state attorney general adam lacksalt, who once tried to overturn trump's loss in nevada. it's a key race that could impact who controls the chamber in november, and a good chance frankly for the gop to flip a democratic seat. now, he is running against army veteran sam brown.

and then there's the race secretary of state over there. the question now is will voters choose a vocal proponent of trump's stolen election claims to oversee future elections now in nevada. >> i'm the only one who believes there was election fraud. >> that's jim marchant, who is now known for supporting conspiracy theories. he is on the campaign trail, that if he were secretary of state in 2020, he wouldn't have certified biden's victory. now, many voters have already nominated dozens of republican candidates for state and also federal office who have backed trump's false fraud claims. in fact, at least 10 sath according to a new tally by "the washington post." so the question for the committee and everyone watching is, will the revelations we have learned through these hearings stop that in its tracks. stop the trajectory of it all.

the thing is, the art of persuasion requires those revelations from the committee to be fully accurate. remember when the panel accused a trump campaign just yesterday of using election lies to swindle supporters of money? congresswoman zoe lofgren called it the big rip-off and later on cnn pointed to one example of donald trump jr.'s fiancee kimberly guilfoyle getting paid about $60,000 to speak for about 2 1/2 minutes at the stop the steal rally on january 6th. now, sources tell cnn today that it was actually conservative pro-trump organization called turning point action who gave guilfoyle that big paycheck, so cnn did its due diligence and went back to lofgren and she said this. >> did you mischaracterize that payment? >> i don't think so. it's part and parcel of the trump campaign. but the question is, are trump

individuals benefitting from this whole enterprise of raising money around the so-called stop the steal? and the answer is yes. >> let the voters decide whether it was a thinko sore definitely not. the committee also just released more testimony of trump campaign attorney eric hirshman talking about how he warned john eastman to back off his plans to file appeals in georgia back in 2020. we heard some of this yesterday. but not all. >> i said to him, are you out of your f'ing mind? i said i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth for now on. orderly transition. eventually he said, orderly transition. i said good, john. now i'm going to give you the best free legal advice you're ever getting in your life.

get a great f'ing criminal defense lawyer. you're going to need it. and i hung up on him. >> remember the sound bite stopped yesterday at the only tell me two of those words. this is all really coming down to a test of credibility. both trump, of course, and what we have been hearing from the january 6th committee themselves. and ultimately, it's up to the voters to decide what they believe and who they believe and whether thigh want to move past january 6th or beyond it or have a yearning to learn even more. i'm joined now by michelle cotyl from "the new york times" editorial board, katie hunt, and ramesh. i'm glad you're all here with me today. i'm wondering first of all, when you hear and think more about this test of all these primaries, a lot of focus has been on donald trump. he's not on any of these ballots. he casts quite a very big shadow, but also a wide net on those who have gone against him.

do you think that he will be triumphant in being able to serve that revenge? >> well, i think we're finding that in these primaries, trump's endorsement matters more than any other person's endorsement. it is valuable. it is very valuable to these candidates and these candidates will do a lot, sometimes at the cost of their own dignity, in order to get that endorsement, but other things like the quality of the candidate, the issue, they matter too. right now for example in the two south carolina races, nancy mace is running ahead of where tim rice is running or tom rice is running because partly it's a different district. mace has a more moderate district than rice, and partly because mace just basically just criticized trump and didn't vote with him on some issues. rice actually voted to impeach him and i think that's a different kind of line for a lot of republican voters. >> yet they had the same fate in many ways. you can say third day in congress, i'm going to certify the president of the united states of having won, but that's

a bridge too far. and she has the same fate in terms of not being endorsed by trump. is that the new standard? >> well, she also has a different -- i mean, the person that trump endorsed against her has run before in that district and lost. >> to a democrat. >> so it's a different kind of district. it's a different kind of setup, and you know, trump has endorsed candidates before who just haven't cut it. i mean, david perdue in georgia was an absolute disaster running against brian kemp. now, georgia was a question of a governor versus a congressperson, which tends to be a little different. governors have their own brand. people tend to kind of already have a little bit of brand loyalty. but again, also with the secretary of state down there, brad raffensperger, trump endorsed his opponent and kind of recruited jody hice to get in there, and he lost in that case as well. so it does matter what the candidates are like, kind of what their records are, and also just kind of what the district and the constituencies are.

>> i think we have to be a little careful about reading too much trump into every single political thing that's going on, because he's clearly a factor. he's become, you know, are you republican enough, are you to the right enough, are you trumpy enough is now the test? so in one of these races tonight, it looks like congressman rice, who voted for impeachment is on track to lose. he may not even make it to a runoff, which would really be a rebuke and a repudiation. you have to keep in mind again the geography. he's in the myrtle beach area of south carolina. it's more conservative. it's more populist, honestly. i'm looking for kind of the right word to say trumpy without describing it exactly that way. and also, the former president has really taken it upon himself to particularly target those who were willing to vote for impeachment. that is like the ultimate sin in his view. the other race, nancy mace criticized him. she also to a certain extent tried to make some amends. she went to trump tower and shot a video of herself in front of it. rice has not done that.

he's not shown any remorse or any kind of concern about what he did. that district, it's more moderate, it's charleston, part of it is there's a lot of transplants down there, country club conservatives. maybe some of them are never trumpers. if you're looking at some of the early results coming in so far tonight, the areas to the north of charleston, more rural, a lot more conservative, those are going for katie arrington. she's someone who was a particularly trumpy candidate all the way along to the point that she lost to a democrat in this district. i think that's what republicans writ large are concerned about. they're concerned that trump will select candidates that are frankly like not okay for some of these other areas. that's what mitch mcconnell was worried about in georgia. >> one of the concerns i have and maybe that's why you were unable to find another word for trumpy. you hear the committee, before the committee hearings, there were thoughts of will they focus on trump? withal try to make this a

singier focus, or to make it more broad? and in doing so, i have often wondered, is this feeding into the hands of being able to say, hey, there same former president who would say they're after me, tare after you, trying to go after you, though, does this actually legitimize some of the claims that people who might not be watching are saying, see, it's all about trump for you all. why not make it about trump? >> but it is about trump, because the committee hearing is mostly about honestly 2024. >> the committee hearing is about trump, but should these primaries be about trump? you yourself talked about the idea of not reading it into every situation. >> trump has worked so hard to make these primaries about him. he has put money into them, he's gone to rallies. he talks it up in terms of they're backing me, they're loyal, they're perfect. and he is working the entire field. he has handed out tons of endorsements. i mean, mostly to front-runners and incumbents so he can rack up some points. >> hey, i support you. >> he has a good record, exactly

that. he's taken -- he's going out on a limb in only a few cases and sometimes he changed his mind when it looks like his original candidate -- >> i'm sorry but we're back and forth and back again in the alabama senate race. when you're talking about the january 6th committee hearings and kind of they relate to the midterm elections i think the reality is they don't relate much at all. because meme who are voting in these elections have pretty much made up their mind about it. what the committee is trying to do is make the case this guy shouldn't be the nominee in 2024. >> what is interesting is the only thing we all agreed on is trump was padding his margin. i don't know what that says, but okay. stay with us, more to come in just a moment here. coming up, not even our libraries are safe from hate. the proud boys storming in and spreading fear at a drag queen story hour. did social media inspire them? we're going to get an update on the criminal investigation and what the performer is saying about all this next.

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is under way tonight after a group of men with ties to the hate group the proud boys stormed a san francisco area library while it hosted a pride month event known as drag queen story hour. keep in mind, children were inside of that room. the police say the group of at least five men wore offensive t-shirts and shouted anti-gay and anti-trans slurs while also flashing white power hand signs. they directed their aggression toward drag performer panda dulse as she read a story book to children. >> they said who brought the tranny? it's a groomer. it's a pedophile. why do you brink your kids to this event? a lot of people are asking me, like, do you feel safe? are you okay? and the answer is no, i don't. i don't feel safe in my own

home. >> remember, this wasn't it only threat that involved a far right group and an lgbtq event. that same day, in idaho, police arrested 31 white supremacists who planned to riot at a local pride event. they arrested on charges of conspiracy to riot, so the question is will there be charged in this california case? lieutenant ray kelly is the spokesman for the alameda county sheriff's office which is investigating the entire incident. lieutenant, thank you for being here today. we hear about what has happened there. i keep thinking in my mind, of course, there were children who were at this event. children who were witnessing the proud boys arrive on scene and do this very thing. i understand you actually had some hate crime protocols that were then followed and even investigating this incident. tell me about that. >> well, absolutely. when we learned of this incident, initially, when we got there, the disturbance had kind of dissipated and de-escalated

itself. and we didn't know a lot of the dynamics of what had gone on until we began to have conversations after the fact. our subsequent investigation into this has caused us some concern, so we did activate our hate crime protocol, which will take us on an investigative course looking at this case through a hate crime lens. in particular, against our pride community and our lgbtq community here in alameda county. >> how are you first alerted to the incident itself inand if you could describe a little more about what that hate crime protocol looks like. >> we first learned of the incident after 911, our deputies resonded to the scene for a report of a disturbance. upon arriving there, the scene was much less chaotic than has been described by panda dulce in the previous video. it was much more benign. we were able to contact five

individuals who identified themselves as members of the proud boy organization and they had told us that they took exception at the library story hour and that they were there to protest that event. we began to be concerned in talking to the organizer when they expressed the threats of violence, the threats of fear, the transphobic and homophobic language used against our event organizer. so that is bringing us in a different direction. right now, we're trying to focus on getting all of the information. there's video out there, there's video from the library, there's video that's been taken by people involved in the event. so our investigators are compiling all of that information. we'll collect all that data and information and reports and then we'll send it to our district attorney and have those legal experts look at this case from a hate crimes perspective. >> and of course, it will have to balance the notion of what will be the obvious retort under

the first amendment, i have every right to be in this public space in a library, but if there were threats of violence or other charges that could be brought, but tell me about the men. are they from the community? we're talking about an area near the bay area, the epicenter of the pride movement, i'm shocked this is happening there in particular, as if it should be okay anyplace in the world, but there in particular. were these men from your community? >> so they're not from alameda county in particular, which is the eastern portion of the bay area. but we know they're from certain communities within the bay area. they're a small group of individuals, and they do not represent this. we have had -- we are the epicenter of pride. and a lot of the civil rights actions that have taken place over many decades started here in the san francisco bay area. usually pride month in june is

very uneventful for us. there's hundreds of events that go on throughout the bay area and they go off without a hitch. we're very surprised that our little library in san lorenzo became kind of a point of contention with this group. so that's been very disturbing to our library workers and the people that go to that library, so thankfully we have already spent a lot of time at that library ourselves, we host a reading program there, and those relationships have paid off, but there's a lot of uncertainty, and this has stirred a lot of debate nationally, so the library has been the focal point of a lot of for and against this issue. >> well, lieutenant, it's also disturbing of course, and the focal point i want to play for you what the performer panda dulce had to say about how this particular incident was triggering it a number of reasons and felt different than previous instances that he was aware of at some point. here it is.

>> i think what felt different about this time is how emboldened they were. they marched right in with their cameras. they were just very confident in what they stood for. and whereas before it was just a small smattering of folks wielding jesus signs, this time, it felt very close to violence. >> when you hear, and excuse me, her pronoun is she, when you hear what she had to say about that, and the idea of the proximity to violence, how are there ways to reassure this particular community in particular in your area this is not on a different trajectory? >> well, i think that's very true. and i think that when people have feelings and how they feel is important, and i know that in this particular incident, some of the individuals were wearing shirts that had weapons and rifles on the shirts, and they had language about killing pedophiles. and i can imagine that when they entered the room with children

in a peaceful area like a library, that it was very aggressive and very alarming, and i'm sure that those feelings that she experienced are very valid, so but that is one of the main concerns, too, the fact that you cannot go into a library and annoy or harass or cause a disturbance with children in california. it is a crime. and so that's one of the angles we'll be looking at. also looking at any criminal threats that might have been made during this situation. and so we're taking all that into account. i think our community knows us pretty well in alameda county. they know their sheriff's office pretty well. they know how serious we have been taking this. we have put out very strong statements in regards to this, and tomorrow we'll be meeting with congressman swalwell, we'll be at the library to reassure the community that they're safe and that their sheriff's office and local law enforcement is going to be there to support them in future endeavors during the pride month.

>> thank you, lieutenant ray kelly. i appreciate your time. >> we're going to look at the threats across this country, including the supreme court. new details in the alleged murder plot against justice brett kavanaugh, and former homeland security secretary janet napolitano joins me to talk about the growing domestic terror danger. next.

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just one person may have stood in the way of last week's alleged murder plot against justice brett kavanaugh. the police say that in the moment after suspect nicolas cosry arrived outside the home, he texted his sister about his intentions. and she was the one to convince him to call 911 on himself. that makes today's passage of a bill that would extend security protections to supreme court justices' immediate family members all the more significant. joining me now, janet napolitano, former homeland security secretary under president obama. secretary, thank you for being here tonight. you know, it's alarming to hear that this was the one person who possibly was able to foil an assassination plot by convincing this person to go to authorities. we're seeing an enormous increase from the dhs' bulletin last week that talks about the rise of people willing to turn to violence to address personal or political grievances.

what's been your reaction to all of this news unfolding? >> well, you know, domestic extremism has been a problem in our country for decades, if not centuries. i remember in 1995, working on the oklahoma city bombing case with tim mcveigh, but what we're seeing now seems to be of a different quality and kind. the number and types of incidents seems to be proliferating. and from the segment you just showed about the invasion of a children's hour at a public library, to the arrests in idaho over the weekend, to the individual who actually in a way turned himself in, but who had crossed the country in order to attack justice kavanaugh, these are all of a different, as i mentioned, quality and kind than

we have seen before. the increase is alarming. >> and the increase, i want to show the audience. what i'm showing them right now is the threats and the inappropriate communications against judiciary, it's actually increased since 2021. it's up 587%. i mean, up 587%. i wonder what you attribute, although this has been unfortunately perpetually ever green, the notion that people are willing to have some form of domestic terrorism you're speaking about, what is different now? is it the proliferation of social media and the ability to find one's echo chamber and galvanize in that way? is that what might be different now? >> that's certainly a big part of it. social media has become like gasoline on a fire. and it's an accelerant. and in terms of the attacks on

the judiciary, part of it may be the fact that the judiciary seems ever more in the news on ever more controversial items. so they have become bigger and bigger targets. and you know, it's unacceptable in our country that this should happen. you know, judges need to be able to do their jobs without having to have marshals outside in their driveways. librarians ought to be able have to children's hours without worrying about proud boys coming in. parades ought to be able to happen without 31 armed men coming in to try to disrupt them. and where it really gets worrisome is when it goes from active protests all the way now to attempted violence or acts of

violence. >> secretary, to paraphrase james baldwin, he often said i love this country more than anyone else in any other country which is why i reserve the right to perpetually criticize it. i emphasize the word criticize, using the ballot box and elections and being able to vocalize one's position, but we have turned a very different corner now. the idea of people using the redress of grievances in this way, what should be done in terms of preparing for this? if this is the trajectory, that criticism is no longer in the baldwinesque space and now turning to violence in a more prevalent way, how does the government prepare? how does the government try to deter and prevent? >> so i think from a federal government perspective, the department of homeland security needs to do all it can to share relevant information to local communities, particularly to police departments and sheriff's

offices. the fbi needs to be leaning forward into this. this clearly needs to be the top priority from a law enforcement perspective. as we head into what could be a long hot summer. >> secretary napolitano, thank you so much. >> thank you. well, president biden is trying to reassure americans about the economy as we go toward that perhaps long, hot, expensive summer. acknowledging the painful realities of our current inflation crisis. and whether anything good can come out of his plan to meet with saudi arabia's mbs, given his record on human rights. i'll be back with michelle, casey, and ramesh next. under budgdget too! and i get seven days to love it or my money back... i love it! i thought online m meant no one to help me, but susan from carvanana had all the answers. she didn't try to upsell me. not once, because they're not salespeople! what are you...? guess who just checked in on me?

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so here's the oxymoronic statement and the state of our economy and politics. tomorrow, the federal reserve is set to enact the largest interest rate hike in decades, meaning the biggest move yet to fight higher prices is to make americans pay more for a home, a car, and of course, your credit card. this at a time when you're keeping paying more every time

you fill up. so news today of the producer price index, showed a slight slowdown is little comfort. even as more people go back to work, companies are struggling to fill jobs. even as workers make more money, it's still harder to feed your family. or keep a roof over your head. this is uncharted territory for politics as well. going back to reagan, as unemployment goes down, a pred's approval numbers, they usually go up. but under biden, unemployment has dropped quickly. yet his approval numbers, especially on the economy and inflation, well, they're deep under water. we discuss all of this with michelle, kasie, and ramesh who are going to break down all of these problems. it's very difficult, though, to think about this. why is this sort of inverse happening? is it a confluence of everything else or is biden just not getting it right? >> i think we have had some

exceptions to the rule, when we had unemployment drop and we have had economic growth, but we have also had people thinking the economy was very bad. and what those periods tend to have in common is that wages are dropping. that what you can command for a paycheck is going down. and that's been true of this economy, too, because wages have been growing, but they have not been keeping up with prices, because prices are growing even faster. that's something that makes people unhappy, and more people are paying money at the pump, they're paying at the grocery bill that are struggling with problems of unemployment, so it hits more voters. >> so it's the economy stupid, still. >> you can tell people the economy is doing well, you can tell people that wages, you know, are fine, and you can tell them unemployment is really low, but when they go to the store, they know what they're making is not covering things. plus, you have supply chain issues. you have shortages of everything from baby formula to now there's some new tampon shortage. it's one of these things where people know things aren't

working well in their life, plus, everybody is still extremely sour about this pandemic. i mean, we're tired of covid. >> is anyone at this table, is this the happiest time in anyone's life? it's been a miserable 2 1/2 years. people are miserable, and things are starting to get better, but every time it seems like we take one step forward, there's two steps back. and many people, you know, who make the least amount of money are the ones that are most affected by this because inflation is just so regressive. it affects people who don't have extra cash or have to take out loans, for example, to cover basic needs. >> if they qualify for the loans. >> if they can, sure. or you have to put it on a credit card if that's something that's available to them. if not, they're in even worse straits. >> i was talking to a politician who started his career in the late '70s during the last rate burst of inflation in the united states, and he was making this point that it's not just the economic consequenceoffs inflation that matter to voters,

as important as those are, there's another layer that it undermines people's sense of control and order and stability. it makes it feel like the ground is shifting beneath their feet. >> and it probably wants to enhance as well who they want to blame for it. because thinking about that, i want to play what biden had to say about an issue because he's been trying to in many ways assign the blame in other directions about why people are so unhappy, and by telling them you're happy, you're happy, it's not making then happy all of a sudden. let's hear what president biden had to say. >> everything in my power to blunt putin's gas price hike. exxon made more money than god this year. >> ted cruz and the other ultra maga republicans are going to vote on whether you'll have social security, medicare, and medicaid. >> so is he pointing the blame in the right direction? is this feeling like deflection, displacement? >> it doesn't really matter. the reality of politics is if you're the president, you're going to take the blame for this sort of thing.

if people are feeling bad about the direction the country is going in, if they are feeling bad about how much their paycheck can get them, how expensive gas prices are, you can talk to them all day long about the war in ukraine, about supply side shortages, about china. you can talk to them about whatever. the president is going to take the hit for it. >> the reality is democrats were wrong about inflation. janet yellen acknowledged as much just a few days ago. she said yeah, they insisted it was going to be transitory. it probably wasn't going to be that big of a deal and that was incorrect. i think voters saw that happen. they know who's running the government, and they're going to take it out on the people in charge. it doesn't really matter who else might be the blame. that's the main strategy going into a midterm is to say the other guy would be a lot worse, but it's not that effective. >> there's also a time when sometimes if you're a flip-flopper or not acknowledging you got something wrong or talking in absolutes can be problematic as a politician. but then there's this new issue that's happening with president biden where he is talking about

going to have a visit in saudi arabia with mbs. and i remember if you remember as well, there was a time on the campaign trail when he spoke about wanting to make this nation a pariah. and spoke in very absolute terms on this issue, and now, he is going there. i want to play what people in his own party have said about this issue and how they would not go. it's not just republicans against democrats. this is an intraparty conflict now. let's listen in. >> i wouldn't go. i wouldn't shake his hand. this is someone who butchered an american resident. cut him up into pieces in the most terrible and premeditated way. >> i will support president biden in his outreach to mbs and to the saudi kingdom. >> i have every confidence that president biden will handle this very well. >> he has every confidence. what do you guys think? >> i think this is about politics more than anything else. and it just underscores how difficult the politics are for the president right now, of what's going on with gas prices. it shows you it's really everything because they are

having to give up a lot. they're losing a lot of faith. this is -- d.c. is renaming the street in front of the saudi embassy khashoggi way. that's what's going on in this country and the president is still willing to do this. >> well, if that's what's happening, do you think about how this is going to play out politically down the road and what goes on next. politics is going to have its place. we'll wait for the primary results as well. michelle, kasie, ramesh, thank you for being here tonight. >> up next, a black driver behind the wheel was speeding. a white police officer pulls the car over. if you think you know where this is going, just wait until you learn what happens next. frankly, it's one of the most heartwarming stories you have probably heardane while, and we all need it. and we have two very special guests who are going to help share that important moment next, and explain this picture. g from home work. a 12-megapixel lenens makes sue your presentation is crystal clearar. and smart camerara auto pans and zooms to keep you perfectly in frame.

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cnn writer john blake brings the story from south carolina where ashley wilkerson was driving with her father, tony, back in march. when a state trooper pulled her over for speeding. as she apologized, her father started defending her, musterering his strength to tell the trooper that his, quote, baby girl was driving him home from his chemotherapy treatment. instead a speeding ticket, he offered a prayer. ashley in an instagram post, quote, the officer side and said he too had loved ones who battled cancer as well. he asked if he could pray with you, and y'all were done, there was a small silver crossed that he placed in your hand for you to keep with you as a symbol of your faith. now, sadly, two months later tony lost his battle with cancer. but ashley is still in touch

with the trooper who was so kind to them both. his name is jared doty, and he and ashley join me now. it's so nice to see both of you here today. it's so often that we don't have feel-good stories about traffic stops, but this one when i read about it, it just touched my heart. what went through your mind when you saw the sirens and heard your father trying to defend his baby girl? >> first, let me say thank you so much for having me today to be able to speak about the man that is near and dear to my heart, my dad, especially this father's day weekend that's upcoming. obviously you never want to hear sirens, and you never want to see the blue lights flash behind you. so the first question was, you know, ash, that's what my dad

would refer to me, ash, is that for you that's behind you? and i said, i don't know, dad, let me check. let me look. i looked at my speed. i looked for a speed limit sign to my right, and i said, yes, dad, i'm speeding. that's for me. so i immediately pulled over to the right side so that i could be summoned by the officer at that time. >> and he's here with us now, that very officer who was behind you. and i know that you have said that you don't want to make this about you and really wanted to honor not only ashley, but also her father. but something about the way he stood up for his baby girl really touched your heart. you felt a kind of kinship with him in that moment. can you tell us about that? >> yes, ma'am. again, what ashley said, thank you for having me here. it's an honor to be on your show. yes, i did relate to him in that manner. i have a 12-year-old daughter

myself, and she's my little princess. like ashley was to her daddy. you know, when i first approached the vehicle, i introduced myself to her. i told her who i was and why i stopped her. i requested for her driver's license and registration. while she was getting those things is when he spoke up and told me that that was his baby girl and he was -- she was bringing him home from chemotherapy at duke hospital. i noticed he was laying back in his seat. he was very soft spoken. his voice was a little raspy. he looked like he was tired and a sick man. at that moment in time, my heart just went out to him. >> in fact, you battled your own health conditions as well, and so you had recognized some parts of yourself within his experience. and you didn't even realize, i understand, ashley, you were so taken aback by the fact that he

came back and asked -- he gave you a warning, first of all, for speeding, allegedly. i'm a lawyer, so allegedly speeding. he gave that you warning, of course, and then he asked if he could pray with you. and you snapped that photograph. he wasn't even aware of that very moment. what made you want to take that picture and capture that moment? >> well, you know, for two reasons. the first reason, my dad was very, very private person about his journey battling cancer. he battled colon cancer for two years. and so he was very private. and i was actually shocked that he disclosed that information to the officer. matter of fact, i asked him, dad, why did you tell the officer your condition? and he said i wouldn't want you penalized for taking care of me. i never want you to get in trouble. i wouldn't want that on my conscience. that was the first and foremost reason, because even in his sick

moment, as you mentioned, he passed away two months after that day, he was still working to defend me and protect me. he didn't want me to get in trouble at that time. so that was the first reason. but the second reason is because the officer -- officer doty leaned into his humanity in that moment. oftentimes when we are tasked to do a job, especially a job like that where you're trained to give a ticket, to give the citation, he leaned into his humanity at that moment, he listened and heard my dad's voice, he saw his ailing condition. he recognized the pouch that was on my dad at the time that signaled that he had been in treatment, and he was concerned. and so he took it a step beyond, and he cared in that moment. he nurtured us in that moment and he offered prayer with my dad. he said, if it doesn't offend

you, as it okay if i pray with you? my dad was chairman of the deacon board. neither one of them knew at the time, and my dad did not like social media. >> he said he leaned into his humanity and one thing you kept is what he lend in and put into your father's hand. it's the picture of this cross that he gave to your father. a family man himself, ashley will kherson, trooper jared doty, thank you both for this. i think we all needed to hear about someone leaning into humanity today. >> thank you so much thank you, officer doty. >> thank you. good to see you again, ashley. >> we'll be right back. >> you too. lemons. lemons, lemons,

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