confirmed a third american is missing in action, a 20-year veteran of the marine corp. his family hasn't heard from him since late april. meanwhile a photo posted on instagram appears to show two other american fighters in the backs of russian trucks with their hands bound behind their back. we can't verify where this photo was taken. a last night i spoke with wynn's fian fiance. the news continues. i want to hand it over to laura coates and "cnn tonight." >> thank you so much. i'm laura coates and this is "cnn tonight." it seems everyone told then president trump that the emperor had no clothes on even if only blind closed doors, talking

about the president's counsel, the vice president's counsel. they all told him it was un-american. in the words of a prosecutor, illegal. even the nation's top prosecutor, the attorney general bill barr, found no evidence to support a play to stay in office. and tonight we have not one but two former attorneys general here both nominated by republican president. and both are going to give us their take on whether the emperor's wardrobe might be traded for prison garb. the former attorney general merrick garland says he is watching closely. but i wonder what his predecessors would think and what they would do. day three has had a theme, pressure, persistent, unyielding pressure, all targeting vice president mike pence. the browbeating all began behind

the scenes. but when that didn't work, the bully pulpit was the new soap box. and pence's failure to succumb to it put him in danger. the vp's chief of staff was so worried the president was putting his life at risk, that he alerted on the over of january 6th. >> i was concerned for the vice president's security, so i wanted to make sure the head of the vice president's secret service was aware that likely, as these disagreements became more public, that the president would lash out in some way. >> we were also shown never before seen photos of pence at the capitol that day as rioters were putting up gallows and actually calling for his head. now, we all remember how close the rioters actually came to the congressional floor. and they would have gotten in through an open door if not for the very quick thinking of a heroic capitol police officer who ended up luring them away

and around the stairs. but today we learned that the mob was just 40 feet away from the vice president of the united states. and we ask ourselves how worried must president trump have been about his right-hand man? not enough to lift even a single finger to call and check on him. i mean even once. what's worse, trump was warned in advance that violence wasn't some hypothetical and his words could actually lead to violence. while pence and mrs. pence waited for any word from trump, well, he was tweeting to the world, lashing out at pence in tweets that were being read aloud by the rioters in real time. >> mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts. >> we also know that there was a phone call on the morning of

january 6th between president trump and vice president pence. now, we did not know what the details of that conversation were. we were all wondering, well, until now because apparently, ivanka trump heard it and she called it heated. and someone else in that room said that she also overheard the man who once famously bragged about grabbing women by their genitalia, he was now calling his own vice president the p-word. plus we have never-before-seen photos from inside the white house as well that day. a lot more on that ahead. they say ignorance may, well, be bliss. but it seems that trump can't ever reasonably claim that he didn't know what he was proposing was, shall we say, problematic to say the least. we heard testimony that trump was specifically warned that that plan to overturn the election, here's the big word again, was illegal. not by just laymen, but by unoof his own lawyers, who actually helped him cook up the scheme

but said, let's try anyway because what could possibly go wrong? listen to this, from the former counsel. >> did john eastman ever admit, as far as you know, in front of the president that his proposal would violate the electoral counting? >> i believe he did on the fourth. >> that's -- that's january 4th, for those of you looking at your calendar right now, the day before the insurrection. and the trump lawyer, john eastman, has been under quite the microscope, that's for sure, not just for the plan or the memo we all knew about, but also that he knew the plan he himself was putting forward was illegal. sort of maybe have a 9-0 in the supreme court. let alone undemocratic. listen to what another trump lawyer said when he heard about

this. >> i said, you're going to turn around and tell 78-plus-million people in this country that your theory is this is how you're going to invalidate your votes? you're going to cause riots in the streets. and he said words to the effect of, there's been violence in the history of our country in order to protect the democracy or protect the republic. >> you mean the civil war? is that what you're talking about or something different? well, we're not going to hear from him likely during any of these hearings, by the way. don't really hold your breath for that because after all he did plead the fifth about a hundred times when the january 6th committee asked him in for questioning. he may not have been willing to answer all of their questions on those occasions, but he was prepared to make a pretty big ask of president trump. the panel released an email that he sent to another former trump lawyer.

you know him. rudy giuliani. and it reads, quote, i've decided that i should be on the pardon list, if that is still in the works. wow. now, why would he think that he should be on that list? we just don't know. but now that more is coming out, will the doj begin to act on any of these revelations? and how will the actual committee recommend things as well to the rest of congress? with me tonight, former democratic senator, al franken. cnn correspondent ally cornish. and former white house chief of communications, alyssa farah griffin. welcome all here. you've sat through my sarcasm, but i want to hear the truths about these issues. when you heard about the pressure campaign against and for vice president mike pence, it wasn't like it was a one-time, oh, one-off. it was relentless all the way to january 5th and 6th. what's your thoughts? >> i think the starkest thing, if i may jump right in, was the

40 feet that the rioters got within the vice president -- within the range of the vice president's ceremonial office. this is a mob that would have killed him if they were able to. and knowing what danger the former vice president was in, donald trump didn't care. in fact, as my former colleague said, he poured gasoline on the fire. it's -- i mean, today what we saw was the committee masterfully broke down the pressure campaign and was smart to have, in my opinion as a republican, to have conservative attorneys, a conservative judge, walk through the undemocratic efforts we had seen by people like eastman and other advisers around trump. i think this was the most important hearing today. it really helped show just how far they were willing to go to stay in power. and it's just devastating and undemocratic. >> i couldn't help but wonder, though, did that translate the same way to the american public? i'm not saying it wasn't compelling. it wasn't the most riveting of testimony from the delivery

standpoint. that's true. as a trial attorney i think about how it's coming across to the jury out there. you're right about thinking about how methodical and persistent it was. were you surprised it was that persistent for this vice president? >> i just felt sad during this hearing. i thought it was pathetic. it confirmed pretty much everything i thought about donald trump, which is, he's sick. he's a sick person. it's tragic that he was president. i agree with judge luttig that he presents -- continues to present a clear and present damag danger to the american people and his supporters. and this -- and it's very clear from these three hearings -- we're going to have four more at least -- that there is a widespread conspiracy to overturn this election. and, you know, every moment of me was pretty stunning and sad,

really just sad. >> i thought it was interesting to think about how the word "hero" was used a lot today. and i have to say, i'm a little conservative in the way that i use the word. i try to give it to those who i think are truly heroic, not just those who do the job they're supposed to be doing, although there are heroes among them. what did you make of the idea of vice president pence really being heralded and called out more than once as virtually a hero for saying, no, here's what it says. the constitution says i can't do it. forget the things you're saying. here's what's happening now. >> i think it's a key part of the hearing to show how consistently the pressure was put on him to go against the law, essentially, and not leading certain electors. this is what the hearing is about, to show this was a multi-point campaign and that pence was at the center of it. there's no way to talk about it without acknowledging the fact he stood in the way of this, his part of the case. i'm sort of curious, what is the

text chain in december? you know, what is going on to hear all of these people around pence, pence's aides talk about the fear they felt, the concerns they felt. but was it true ily a shock? >> i'll say this. i was not in the white house in december 2020. i kept in touch. i was talking to marc short fairly regularly. i knew without question pence was going to do the right thing and certify the election. i know the senator. i'm going to give him a chance to disagree with me after this. i do think mike pence is a hero. i want to take a minute to think about this. had he not certified, we would have been not just in a constitutional crisis. i would argue the republic would be in shambles. you would have a two- to three-week period before biden was sworn in. you would have a lame duck donald trump desperately clinging to you potentialer. you would inevitably have unrest in the street. he would probably lean on the department of defense, where i previously worked, and i would expect you would have general

officers like chairman milley defying orders to use force and you would have loyalists donald trump installed to use the military. this is a horrifying story we're talking about. >> couldn't the heroism come to transparency before that date. january 5th is the date they were talking about it. >> this is why it was the obvious thing he had to do. if he was courageous, he would have testified today. and if he was courageous, he would have spoken out about this before. this is -- and you're in touch with marc short? why didn't he say anything? why didn't any of these people who were testifying today say anything before this happened? there are people who are dead because they didn't. >> it's heartbreaking. and i will -- i will always say -- i was the first senior official to speak out on january 6th and say donald trump -- >> good for you. >> i don't know why people did it. it frustrates me to this day. again, this is an indictment of my own party, no one else here.

i would think any other republican in the maga orbit in pence's shoes wouldn't have done the right thing if it was a vice president cruz, vice president -- name the maga official. so, thank god it was mike pence. that's honestly all i can say. >> i'm not one for this kind of black and white. nobody's covered in glory here. this is an ugly situation in which a key part of the process for the peaceful transfer -- the peaceful transfer of power has proven to be very vulnerable, potentially easily manipulated. and i don't want a scenario where we have to have a hero do what needs to be done to carry out the tradition of our democracy. we already know what it looks like in other countries that cyclical political violence. the purpose of the hearings -- i think a greater context for people to consider is what will it take for this not to happen again? not just the mob violence, but to safeguard and certify a

result in an effective way that cannot be manipulated in this manner. when you're watching all the lawyers go like this, like this, i said this, i said this, i said this, memo, memo, meeting, meeting, meeting -- >> is that how you think i talk? is that what the lawyers do? memo, memo, memo. >> a little bit. >> is that where we are? >> we went 240 years without this happening. you don't do this. al gore testified for this long, was asked about this. said, well, if you're putting your own personal ambition against our democracy and constitution, it's not really a hard choice. >> well, there's that statement, a republic if you can keep it. that's just the lawyer in me talking. >> it's real, it's real. >> everyone stick around for a second. the lawyers are going to get involved. mike is going to go through this with you all later this hour. stick around, please. up next, two former u.s. attorneys general look at me to

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those famous watergate questions, you know, the one, what did the president know and when did he know it? well, in this case, a lot of people knew the plan to reject the electoral votes was illegal, and they knew it well in advance. in today's testimony, we know mike pence asked his counsel to investigate his role almost a month before january 6th even happened. even in december, john eastman admitted that his plan didn't really have any legal weight, and pence told trump he didn't have the power two days before christmas. the vp staff told eastman on january 4th, again, the plans were illegal. the next day, eastman admitted the plan would actually lose at

the supreme court. >> we had an extended discussion, an hour and a half to two hours on january 5th. and when i pressed him on the point, i said, john, if the vice president did what you were asking him to do, we would lose 9-0 in the supreme court, wouldn't we? and he initially started well, i think maybe you would lose only 7-2. and after some further discussion, acknowledged, well, yeah, you're right. we would lose 9-0. >> and by the way, there are, what, three trump appoint on that court? i'm just doing the math on that particular notion. and despite that, trump still had that heated call with pence on january 6th. and both trump and eastman told the crowd that pence could still overturn the election. and even after the attack on the capitol, eastman sent yet another email asking for what he admits would have been an

illegal act. the paper trail is pretty incredible on this. so, which may be the reason, frankly, that next day, eastman was advised to get a criminal attorney. and a few days later he was asking rudy giuliani about that pardon list. ultimately the question of possible criminal charges actually does not sit of course in congress but with the department of justice and the attorney general. let's talk about it with not one but two former u.s. attorneys general. gentlemen, welcome. i'm so glad that you're both here. i've been eager to pick both of your brains after these particular hearings. i want to begin with you, general mckay zee on this. i'm wondering, as you've been watching and sitting through and hearing about these hearings, does it strike you that there is a criminality that could be explored at the justice department? >> criminality by -- you mean by -- >> i mean by donald trump or somebody -- maybe john eastman,

any of the figures in the hearings today. >> well, something -- something can be explored. but as you know, as a former trial lawyer, there's a big difference between something that can be explored and a case that can be brought. if donald trump is famous for anything, it's for not hearing things that he doesn't want to hear. and not withstanding that he was being told by his then-attorney general bill barr by vice president pence and by a whole lot of other people that vice president pence did not have the authority to do anything other than open the envelope and the constitution says, the votes then be counted. he chose to believe a contrary story that he is being told by other people, or so he says. and that raises some question about -- about his role. in addition, the justice department itself is prosecuting people now, members of the proud boys and others, for committing these acts on their own. it doesn't make -- they don't

make the president part of it. and so there is a kind of a tension between the theory that the justice department is now pursuing against people who are now defendants and the theory that it might pursue against president trump, assuming they decide to pursue him for another charge. >> you're nodding along general gonzales. do you agree of obviously the notion of exploration and meeting one's burden of proof if you were to bring criminal charges. something that's been floating around is defrauding the government, america, the idea of obstruction affecting the proceeding, the electoral college count. there's the elements that need to be proven. so far we've got a lot of testimony that demonstrates at least in the beginning that trump doesn't really have a good faith reasonable leaf that he could believe any of what he wants to believe when the truth seems to be out there that this plan could not work. >> well, the general is absolutely right. it's one thing to receive this

information through this process. it's quite another to meet a burden of proof in a criminal trial where trump, trump world, will have the opportunity to cross examine witnesses, to present their own proof, and then try to convince the jury of their innocence. and so no question the information that's come through this committee is very disturbing. it's damning as far as i'm concerned, certainly with respect to i think how the public is seeing this. if you're talking about a criminal prosecution, that is quite a different story. and of course these hearings are not over yet. and in fact there may not be a referral. some would argue that referral is really immaterial. maerrick garland is going to -- his investigators are gathering up the information. hopefully we'll receive all the information that's received by this commission and consulting

with a senior team. he's going to make a determination as to whether or not to move forward. even if the decision is close, he may decide not to do so. why? because in the history of this country, i don't believe a former president has ever been subject to a public trial. it will force the nation, the nation's attention, the media's attention will gravitate and be focused on this trial for months. and, you know, one might wonder whether or not, is it worth it because you could make the argument that president trump has already been -- he's already been harmed or he's already lost. he lost his re-election -- >> but general, excuse me. you've articulated sounds the equivalent of somebody then being above the law. i mean, the idea that you're punished enough by having lost the election and you can't be called the leader of the free world. is that really enough? >> no, what i was going to say -- you need to let me complete my thought. there is a balance here. the other consideration, an

equally important, perhaps more important consideration, by the attorney general is accountability. you know, someone should be held responsible. others at the highest level should be held responsible for what happened here. at the end of the day, this is a very tough decision for the attorney general. and right now, i think i agree with the general. it's just premature to reach a conclusion that we can -- that president donald trump can be criminally prosecuted for january 6th. i think they're going to make a good effort. they're going to make a good examination as to whether or not that effort could be successful. >> i think you're absolutely right that we still have a lot to wait for. on that point -- excuse me. i'm curious as to what you make of the fact that the former attorney general bill barr played an essential role in the testimony in his conversations. both of you obviously have been behind closed doors as presidential advisers, members of the cabinet, privy to a great deal of sensitive information. and it could very well be that ag merrick garland is privy to

that same information in different categories. what do you think about the notion of the testimony of bill barr to date? he talked about resigning in december after what he described as bs in the plan. what was your reaction to the testimony you heard? >> well, that -- that testimony actually was known before it was disclosed in these hearings. that was in his book. he talked about it before that, that scene on december 1st, where he -- as you point out -- describe what the president was pushing, the theories of fraud he was pushing as bs, said he had found no evidence to support them, and offered to resign. the president slammed his hand down on the table and said, accepted. and then barr walked out of the room and had to be chased down by two people when he was already in his car. no, no, no, he didn't really mean it. come back. he went back to the justice department, and they didn't speak again until afterwards. but he testified exactly the way

it happened, and he testified to what he did. and what he did was his job. what mike pence did was his job. and i -- one of your colleagues said before that we don't need -- we shouldn't really need heroes. the fact is there is no rule that applies itself. there's always somebody who's got to apply the rule and adhere to the rule. and the fact that we had people applying the rules and adhering to the rules, you want to call them heroes? call them people. you want to call them people doing their job? call them people doing their job. but the fact is the system at that point functioned. you know, we had something similar to this in our history, relatively recent history whrks richard nixon resigned and was pardoned by gerald ford. he was -- ford was criticized for it at the time. but the reason he did it was that he didn't want the country to go through the anguish and the turmoil and the disorder of trying a former president.

and this situation i think is close to that. >> i hear both of you. stick around. we're going to come back to these points and expand. i would love to hear your reaction. the nation did see some turmoil and unrest. it was on january 6th. ahead, there was a final phone call between trump and pence just hours before the riot on january 6th. it was overheard by trump family members and former aides. and boy, do they have quite a story to tell. hear it yourself when "cnn tonight" returns. clean ingredients... in a buttery b brioche roll. mamade fresh, to leave you... speechless. panera's new chef's chicken sandwiches. $0 delivery fee for a limited time.

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we've got new insight tonight in the heated phone call between former president trump and his then-vice president. it comes from witnesses within trump's inner circle, including his own daughter, ivanka, about what they heard on the morning of january 6th in the hours before the capitol attack. >> when i entered the office the second time, he was on the telephone with who i later found out to be the vice president. >> could you hear the vice president or only hear the president? >> only hear the president's end. at some point it started off as a calmer tone, and then it became heated. >> the conversation was pretty heated. >> i remember hearing the word wimp. either he called him a wimp. i don't remember if he said you are a wimp, you'll be a wimp, wimp is the word i remember.

>> it was something like that, yeah. you're not tough enough for me to call. >> it was a different tone than i'd heard him take with the vice president before. >> did mrs. trump share with you anymore details about what had happened or any details about what had happened in the oval office this morning? >> that her dad had just had an upsetting conversation with the vice president. >> something to the effect, this is the wording is wrong. i made the wrong decision four or five years ago. >> and that the word she relayed the president called the vice president -- i apologize for being impolite. do you remember what her father called him? >> the p-word. >> well, after that call, trump went on to rally his supporters at the ellipse in washington, d.c. remember this part? >> if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election.

mike pence is going to have to come through for us. and if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country. >> january 6th panel says its investigation into early drafts of trump's january 6th speech included actually no mention of pence and that trump purposely revised it to criticize his vice president. now, upon learning about the violent mob inside the capitol, trump told his supporters this. quote, mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done, unquote. well, and they took note. listen to this. >> pence didn't do what we wanted. pence voted against trump. >> okay. and that's when all this started? >> yep. that's when we march on the capitol. >> mike pence has betrayed the united states of america. >> he has betrayed us, which apparently everybody knew he was going to.

and the president mentioned it, like, five times when he talked. >> like, five times when he talked. we learned there was a lot more conversations than just five that day. perhaps no surprise, but a source tells cnn that trump and pence, they haven't spoken to each other in over a year. we'll get more into this now frayed relationship. back with tonight's a-team, al, ari, and alissa to discuss all of that. plus, how important could ginni thomas be to the committee? that's up next. king at your tired old bath, we fit your style, with hundreds of design options. when a n normal day is anything but normal, we fit your schedule, with our unique tub over tub process, installed in as little as a day. when high quality is the only quality that matters, we fit your standards, with a lifetime guarantee. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation.

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okay, so rather than calling the rioters off from the capitol on january 6th, the former president instead was tweeting, and about mike pence. just listen to what a white house aide told the select committee about that moment. >> it was clear that it was es ka t lating, escalating quickly. [ crowd chanting, hang mike pence ] >> so, then when that tweet, the mike pence tweet was sent out, i remember us saying that that was the last thing that needed to be

tweeted at the moment. the situation was already bad. and so, it felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. >> back with you now, al franken, ally cornish, and alyssa farah griffin. i want to hear your reaction as well to what the former attorneys general had to say earlier talking about the reason why sometimes the doj doesn't prosecute cases. it might not be in the interest of the nation or contrary to the public's interest. you had strong reaction to that. >> the only thing worse than prosecuting him is not prosecuting him. he clearly committed crimes. it's so evident. this is why watching, i said was pathetic. tragic. clearly he knew he lost. his only defense i guess is insanity. but i don't think that washes. i think he's just a blig nant

narcissist. i think he's an awful human being. and clearly he knew he lost. he said before the election, if i win, then it was a fair election. if i lose, it was fixed. i mean, what else do you need? >> during the hearing, this is what they outlined in the first two days, this idea of the setup, the leading up to this moment. and now -- and you can talk about this more. i'm actually kind of curious about your position on it. they're talking about what the motive was. if they're talking about his ability and power and understanding to potentially incite violence. and then if they're showing us people who heard his words and acted on them, clearly lawmakers are trying to lay something out as easily as possible. that doesn't necessarily mean there will be charges. but correct me if i'm wrong. they're doing it in a certain order to give people a sense of

wrong doing, youillegality. >> and they're bringing up -- they're talking about criminality and the elements and how it could be proven. when someone starts fishing for a pardon, we call that a pred flag. listen up. >> in fact, just a few days later, john eastman emailed rudy giuliani and requested he be on a potential list of potential pardons. it stated, quote, i've decided that i should should be on the pardon list if that's still in the works. >> the rest of that line actually, it's him saying, i know it will look bad, something to the effect of that. but there will be so many lies being told. i just want to finish the rest of that sentence. you know, i want to point out something else, which is this is such a tiktok-ready hearing set up. you know, so much has been made of them using teleprompters or the production values and a tv

producer getting involved. it's actually not so much about tv. it is shareable, right? judge luttig today, not a fast speaker. but when you see him in snips on your facebook feed, on your insta and snap and i have no idea, you are going to get the idea because the committee has created a scenario in which this is a very shareable kind of tiktok era hearing rather than a watergate era hearing. >> and on kind of the previous point, i think the committee is pursuing two tracks. i've sat down with the committee voluntarily. i want to help any way i can. one is, is there wrong doing. the other is the battlefield is the voters. it's convincing the american public that the election lies were untrue, this was a giant graffiti by the former president. >> both are valuable. >> yes. >> i think there is a danger in setting the bar so high that it has to be prosecution or nothing

because this is an ongoing situation, right? you had more than 100 -- >> this guy is trying to destroy our democracy. >> there are more than 100 candidates out there who election denialism or specifically trump's election lies are part of their campaign. >> and that's from right wing disinformation and lies which have been going on a long time. >> well, speaking of history though, think about this. there was that moment we heard from greg jacobs today where he talked about the idea of being un-american and the history of the inertia of things just weren't going. >> there's almost no idea more un-american than the notion that any one person would choose the american president and unbroken historical practice for 230 years that the vice president did not have such an authority. >> that's why you have to prosecute him. there's nothing more un-american. >> i mean, here's my thought.

i hear you. but the problem is, when you look at and just thinking about how the electorate is talked about -- i think this is your point as well. if the singular focus is on the prosecution of donald trump, i think you risk the alienation of realizing the legislative purpose. i'm not saying it can't be a possibility. this is a committee that has to think about it. i'm going to ask the attorney general when we come back on these very issues. we'll leave that question hanging in the wind. the question is, is the select committee delivering on what it promised the american people to that very point? back with two former american attorneys general next. hands-on practic e with her chase first banking debit card... the drummer's making savings simple with a tap... ...round of applause. and this dreamer, well, she's still learning how to budget, so mom keeps her alerts on full volume. hey! what? it's true! and that's all thanks to chase first banking. freedom for kids. control for parents.

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the big picture here. we're seeing division and distrust in our institutions. i'm wonder if you're looking at the way this is being conducted that the system is working there was somebody to hold the line. i'd love for you to respond general gonzalez as to what your thoughts are. >> absolutely. i think mike hit it right on. i'd say mike pence was brave. he was courageous not to leave the capitol. what he did beyond that, he did his job. he took an oath of office to follow the constitution and that's what he did. that's what the senior leadership at the department of justice did and that's what they will do going forward.

that's not going to happen with respect to donald trump and the rest of those involved in the january 6th hearing. we're going to follow the constitution and do the right thing. >> are you concerned on the singular focus of donald trump? >> yes, i am. i think there are larger issues here. first, i agree with general gonzalez that what this fantasy of putting donald trump in an orange jump suit in a dungeon, ain't going to happen. beyond that, there are tweaks that need to be made in the electoral count act. i don't know about prevent but make it difficult for a situation like this. this access to the ballot is a matter of state law.

that has to be fought out in each individual state. how that result gets handled when the ballots are sent to congress may need to be tweaked. there's bipartisan support for it will specific that a vice president has no authority. we ought to clarify if there's competing slates of electors submitted by states that that can be done. the mela drama doesn't really tell the whole story. >> absent those changs and i'm talking to the former top law enforcement officials in the country, who know full well what it must take and what needs to take to enforce the law. absent those changes, are there other areas you can think of in terms of what you have bp seeing it's making the job of prosecutors to evaluate the cases that much horder.

are there theirs that should be fortified or loopholes closed? >> honestly, i don't know how to answer that question. i have to think about that. i think the department of justice has the tools. prosecute where necessary. there are things that we could do to strengthen the electoral count act. >> i'll give you the final word of what you think the hearings will have an impact on our

nation. >> i'm hoping they will have a good impact. i'm hoping people love from it and learn there's no such things as a set of rules that applies itself. it takes people to apply it. >> very important word. it's important to hear from you both giving your perspective on these really important issues. thank you so much to both of you. we'll be right back. n never have too much of a good thing. ♪ and power..... ...is a very good thing. ♪

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thanks for watching. i'll be back tomorrow night. don lemon tonight starts now. hey, don lemon. >> we'll see you tomorrow night. great job. thanks very much. >> bye. this don lemon tonight. devastating testimony from the january 6th hearing on donald trump's relentless campaign to pressure the vice president, mike pence to over turn the 2020 election. it all came from trump's inner circle. saying this, that trump was warned repeatedly that pence had no authority to toss out the results and that a scheme to do so hatched by a conservative law professor john eastman was bogus and unconstitutional. witnesses testifying that trump went so far to badger and belittle pence in a phone call on the morning of january 6th, just hours before the deadly insurrection. listen to this. >> then he said at some point there's a telephone conver