children who had no interest in leaving their husbands, who, both, by choice, and also by mandate, had to stay in the country from 18 to 60. you know, what's a hero? if your eyes are open, if your heart's open at all, boy, it's not hard to find it. >> cnn heros salutes, it premiers 10:00 p.m. eastern saturday night. we'll be watching, of course. and to our viewers, thank you very much for watching, i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room," erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, damaging. trump insiders admitting today's testimony before the january 6th committee was bleak for the former president, as officials inside the justice department detail how trump tried to use them to steal the election. this as tonight we're learning

new names of republican lawmakers who allegedly asked trump for pardons, plus learning from the film maker who turned over hours of footage of the president and his family to the january 6th committee. what did he tell investigators today? and a major decision from the supreme court on guns. critics say it's adding fuel to the fire when it comes to gun violence in america. let's go "outfront." and good evening, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me. it's a quote, a brazen statement from then-president trump after he had been told that every single allegation of mass fraud was faulse, every one. his response, say it was corrupt, leave the rest to me, a quote the deputy general richard donohue told today that trump told him on december 27th, 2020. >> you also noted mr. rosen said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't

and won't snap its fingers and change the election. how did the president respond to that, sir? >> he responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> it wasn't paraphrasing, okay. let me show you the hand-written note that donohue took, that he wrote, on the day of the call. just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the r. congressman. there you have it. multiple sources tonight are telling our kaitlan collins that trump allies acknowledged that testimony today was damaging and bleak and important to note people in trump's orbit downplayed other hearings so far so today, seeing it differently. part of the reason is the witnesses today clearly detailed how trump tried to pressure the justice department to help him hold on to power and again, hear the crucial thing, even after he had been told again and again and again that there was nothing

to the crazy allegations of fraud, that he kept specifically bringing to the acting and acting deputy attorney general. according to donohue's notes, trump was literally clinging on to any conspiracy theory out there. >> he told mr. donohue in that december 27th call, quote, you guys may not be following the internet the way i do. >> we're also learning many of the republicans pushing these conspiracy theoriys from the internet trying to overturn the election, saw pardons from then-president trump, according to testimony, includes congressman scott perry, mel brooks, andy biggs and marjorie taylor green, should note, called the allegations lies. others, though, admitted they asked for the pardons. others today heard from film maker alex holder with hours of trump, his family, and others in the inner silk in the days

leading up to and on january 6th. holder speaking to our don lemon after trump's mindset said this. >> did he at any point acknowledge that he lost? >> no. he absolutely genuinely believes that he won and that the election was stolen from him. >> we're going to have more from don's interview with holder coming up, including what the committee wanted to know from him in the testimony today. now, the existence of that film caught even top trump aides by surprise, includish never before seen footage like this. >> can we talk a moment about january 6th? >> well, it was a sad day. but it was a day where there was great anger in our country. the people went to washington primarily, because they were angry with an election that they think was rigged. a very small portion as, you

know, went to the capitol, and a small portion of them went in. but i will tell you they were angry from the standpoint of what happened in the election because they're smart and see what happened and i believe that that was a big part of what happened on january 6th. >> that documentary will be released why discovery plus, owned by cnn's parent, company, interesting to note when the film maker says trump believed it. each of these claims, that voting machines controlled by italy, being stopped at trucks and all this, ran every one down and found them all to be completely bogus and explained it to him. do you think he realldidn't bel it? >> i'll speak to a member of the committee, jamie raskin but first out to manu raju on capitol hill.

>> reporter: trump leaning on top justice officials to claim the election was corrupt, even though he was told time and time again they had no merit, there was a push to install a trump loyalist on top of the justice department even causing a threat for those top justice official to see consider resigning en mass out of protest, ultimately, that is did not happen. but what did apparently happen was some republican members of congress asking for pardons over their role on january 6th. >> just told me it's your job to seize machines and you're not doing your job. >> reporter: top justice officials testifying about the lengths donald trump went to use the power of the federal government to pursue the conspiracy that the election was stolen, despite being told repeatedly, there was nowhere to his claims, trump demanding they declare the election corrupt and leave the rest to him and members of congress. >> were any of the allegations he brought up found credible?

did you find any of them credible? >> no. >> trump's pressure campaign was relentless. >> between december 23rd and january 3rd, the president either called me or met with me virtually everyday. >> reporter: all of it came to a head in a tense january 3rd office meeting when trump threatened to replace acting attorney general jeffry rosen with jeffrey clark, a doj official willing to act on trump's plan. >> i do recall saying to people that somebody should be put in charge of the justice department who isn't frightened of what's going to be done to their reputation. >> but top doj officials bogged, including then attorney general richard donohue. >> i made the point, jeff clark isn't even competent to serve as attorney general, never been a criminal attorney, and said

that's right, environmental lawyer. how about go back to our your office and we'll tell you when there's an oil spill. >> falsely claiming there was voter fraud and call you get on them for special legislative sessions. >> when he finished what he planned on doing, i said good [ bleep ], excuse me, a-hole, c congratulations, attorney general would be committing a felony. >> clarks, whoob had his house raided by the fbi on wednesday morning testified to the committee behind closed to haves in february, but took the fifth more than 100 times. >> executive privilege, again, restated for the abundance of kaulgz. >> reporter: trump only backed down from replacing rosen with clark when the top officials all threatened to resign in protest. >> other aids began to kmiem in, in turn and all essentially said they would leave, resign in mass if the president made that change in the department relationship.

>> committee members today also revealing more information about the gop lawmakers who saw a pardon including congressman scott perry who played a central role pushing for clark to be elevated in the justice department. attorney eric hirstman saying gates, he believes, was also seeking a parten. >> the pardon he was requesting was as broad as you can describe, frunl the beginning of time up until today. mentioned nixon and i said nixoners pardon was never nearly that broad. >> the only reason i know to ask for a barden is because you thinks you kmitded a crime. >> reporter: in tigaddition to perry and gates, other members sought a pardon, mel brooks, andy biggs, marjorie taylor greene. now greene was a second-hand witness, her her say this. she has denied asking for a

parted, others will to get it, mo brooks, but anybody overturning the election, he was concerned democrats would niez the justice farmt against political enemies. >> thank you very much, i want to go to the january 6th committee which congressman, i appreciate you taking the time back in the show. it was rifting to watch this today. we heard ton hew say today and i quote him, there were a lot of people whispering in his ear, feeding him these conspiracy theories and allegations, but he, donohue, told trump these theories were false and detailed the one about the truck full of ballots and ballot count not adding up in pennsylvania. every sing. one of them ex brain trump they were false. >> do you believe your committee proved today that trump did

something illegal or was he just listening to bad advice and conspiracy theories? >> well, rosen and donohue absolutely told him there were no facts to justify his big lie that he continued to spread around the country and within the instrument and no legal basis upon come they could intervene. the department of justice itself had no standing. they were basically saying, if you think you got a problem as a candidate, you take it to campaign lower lawyers, not the u.s. department of justice. but what we saw were donald trump's repeated efforts to convert the entire united states department of justice into an instrument of his political corruption and big lie. so look, i think he's a one-man crime wave and he converted his desperate crusade to stay in office despite the fact he had clearly lost the election into a government-wide conspiracy where they were trying to go after

state legislatures, state election officials, local election officials, department of just and say when each of these things was frustrated because there are real constitutional heros in this story and people who refuse to bulk under buckle under, finally, ended up going to the most desperate hail mary past. always the mob. violence. in an urt to coerce the vice-president in congress to do his will, that's the story that remains to be told. >> we did hear about the end of the individual in the justice department, that he was trying to use, as his vup for all of th jeffrey clark. we heard a lot with him. we learned that federal investigators searches his home before the hearing began, they went and did that yesterday. were you surprised by that? >> yes, i was surprised.ed.

we obviously had nothing to do with that. and, you know, look, i've been rooting for the department of justice to bring cases against people who committed crimes and already brought more than 800 cases against people for everything from assaulting federal officers and 150 of them were assaulted, to seditious conspiracy, which means to overthrow or put down the government of the united states or frustrate the excuse of you are laws so those cases are going and, you know, that's not really our wave. we're focused on telling the story to the american people but hope the department of justice will be in the hands of people do are able to look at the facts and the law, people like rosen and donohue. >> well, it is, i think, obviously, just bears reemphasis here that they chose to to that search, whatever they got to the point i it it before the actual

hearing when they were well aware he would play such an important role and see it all out there. sheers his you don't say, and se seized. >> there was also testimony today about r members of congress, who asked for pardons, marjorie taylor greenes, mel brooks, brooks add mltstd admitg he would to it out of concern because democracies would poourz the system, not as congressman kinsinger said as to get something wrauk. >> they see everything through a jaundice eye and guilty mind. it's clearly a pronunciation of their own mental state, but look, it's not a crime to rekwegs a pard be pardon in the united states of america, but i think if we use our common

sense, we would say it indicates some consciousness or guilt or some fear you could be prosecuted for what you did. >> congressman raskin, so much appreciate your time. thank you. now i want to bring in ryan goodman, coeditor and chief for justice security, john dean, former watergate whistle blower and abby phillip anchor of politics subd and our political correspondent. you heard congressman raskin talking about, you know, trump and what he did told again and again and again in the specifics brought toot acting attorney general that none of it added up in great detail yet continued to push them out there anyway. did the committee today show trump did anything illegal? >> i think it d on two lechls at least. presented, as you say and representative raskin said with career, unambiguous information, that there is nothing to any of the allegations. so that meant he had no evidence

for his thoughts of what happened to the election wet still tried to interrupt the certification. that amounts to corrupt obstruction of criminal proceedings. one of the main defenses the department is pursuing and the second one, trying to pressure kmsing officials to interfere in the election, we saw that today, on a daily was pressuring those officials, at the point of telling them i'll replace you if you don't make a statement, send this letter out to get them to decertify. >> all right, just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me p after conversations they realized it was not ruptd. so clearly direct them to glow achs what the the facts were. >> john, former attorney acting general donohue was a key player today and said in a meeting with trumpet, he did meth oddiothida

go through, including one voesal system in the county, error rate of 60%, complete and total fraud. here's what donohue says. >> for the ballots actually counted by machine, some 15,000, there was one error, one ballot and i did a quick calculation, came up with.0063 retrievable rate. a truck driver, who claimed to move truck to trail you are, ballots north in pencil vab yeah vein yeah uncorrect. >> were any of the allegations credible? >> and donohue again, john says he told trump had of these tales and trump kept pushing the conspe conspiracies out there. it's incredible, the number is 00.oh 63%, maybe fuse the 6 and

the 8 and forgot the 00. how sing is ithis, john? >> i found the hearings remarkable. i did do a flash back when i listened to this part of the conversation, trying to deal with rachered nixon who only cheats in an election, drnt try to overthousand the government but i remember well where i took him off the cover up, get the reasons why and get feedwhack about a back from me. committing perjury? we'll it's just a tauf mauve, thoughts what we have today but in spades, more more serious what's going on here. this is our democracy. trump has noeft respect it whfor it whatsoever and that's what the committee showed today. >> committee also said according to emails and witness testimony in the over 1,000 interviews

done, at least six members of congress sought preemptive pardons from trump after the election. these republicans down downplayed t pushed the lies out there but, you know, you're mo brooks saying, well the democrats will revolutionize the justice system afters, thought that if you ask for a pardon, how damaging is the revelation at? >> i think first of all, it seems that there were a lot of conversations happening about pardons. just a few days ago, learned that the lawyer advising trump on a lot of this illegality, john eastman, also talk begun pardons so there's some questions on why this idea trump 0 would be doling out pardons so sur vasive in the white house and seems to suggest people have been talking about it for

moumo moumo moumo moungts as far as december. the other thing, most of them, if not all of them were in that 21 'meeting at the white house. the one that seemed to proceed jeffrey clark being the face of the corrupt plan to overtake the justice department. so, you know, we don't know exactly what trabz piered in that meeting but if you're taking the evidence to the american public, perhaps to a jury, a lot of people would question why you would be seeking a pardon when you seem to be a part of a plot, a well-planned plot to do something that was obviously illegal on its face, that people at the time were told it was unconstitutional and aelg. >> right, they also had heard every one of those theories carefully, investigated, raunt ah and knew them to be false and

kept pushing them, all of you, stay with me, back in a moment. next, federal investigators did raid the home of jeffrey clarks, what we're learning tonight about the justice . the january 6th select committee investigation, what did the film maker tell othered today when he spoke with them. and is the stream court nakeding down a 100 year law making it easier to carry a concealed weapon in pliks.

new tonight, federal investigators raiding the home of former justice department official, jeffrey clark. clark, as i said, was really central today, and was a central focus of the hearing. he tried to use the justice department to overturn the election. so that, you know, former trump, president trump would win. and this comes as several members of all the january 6th committee, including congressman raskin who you heard at the top of this program say they were caught off guard by the news of the raid on clark. i should emphasize, the raid came right before the hearing, justice department fully aware this hearing was going to be for jeffrey clark. evan perez is out front, evan, what are you hearing about this? significant that congressman raskin saying they were really surprised by this. >> yeah, look, i think the justice department wanted to

make sure they kept members of congress a little separate from what they were doing, erin, and this happened in the predawn hours, it appears jeffrey clark was also surprised, put outside in his pajamas and the, these federal agents came in and did a search of his home. now, we do not know what they took, what exactly were the crimes that are being investigated here that prompted the raid to occur on wednesday, but we know it is connected to the ongoing investigation that the u.s. attorneys office here in washington has into the efforts to overturning the election so this is where, what we know this is an investigation surrounding. as you know, jeffrey clark was at the center of this effort to overturn the election. he was willing to send letter to georgia, to the state of georgia, saying that the justice department had concerns or had, it had indications that there was fraud, which, of course, he

knew was not true. he knew that the department had investigated georgia and in other places, and found nothing to support the idea that there was widespread fraud that would have made a difference in the election. and yet, he was willing to do that. he wanted to put himself in place of jeffrey rosen so that he could carry out the president's bidding. so now, we wait to see what next steps happen in this investigation. obviously, there's a number of witnesses who are going to be very important to exactly what jeffrey clark was doing and they're, you saw a couple of them right there in this hearing today who were going to be able to provide context of what he was up to. >> yeah, absolutely. and i mean, just to state the obvious, you don't raid someone's home with no preparation, nothing lines up. it doesn't happen that way evan, thank you so much. so the panel's back with me. okay, ryan, how potentially significant, how monumental is this search, the predawn search of jeffrey clark's home? >> i think it's huge.

up to this point, no indication the justice department was actually investigating this part of the scheme. the best indication we had was they were investigating the alternative state of electors at the state level but this really does go almost right to what attorney general garland said that they would pursue accountability for anybody at any level. he's a pretty senior person, head of the civil division in the justice department and as we saw today, playing a direct role with trump using the justice department to overturn the election, very close to trump himself. >> absolutely, he and trump having these conversations. clark at first wasn't even telling his superiors which is completely against the rules and the precedent of the justice department. and it was clear, how little respect justice official he's for clark and how little influence clark had at doj with people like rosen, donohue and others. here's donohue explaining how,

as trump considered sbinstallin clark as acting attorney general. director chris ray wouldn't even listen to lark. her . >> i said if you walked into the office, would you know how to get there and two would even know who you are? do you think the fbi will start following your orders? it's not going to happen. he's not confident. >> i mean these conversations, as donohue described them were incredibly contentious. it was nasty, and yet trump was pushing clark as hard as he could. >> yeah, look, i mean, to say they had very little respect for clark would be a huge understatement. they went through the dictionaries of one liners and put-downs and used it on clark to his face in meeting after meeting and the bottom line they wanted to convey was that he was absolutely not qualified to hold this position. his theories were totally whacky and untrue, and i think this

says a lot about the trump environment. i covered this president. he is one of these people who seems to always surround himself with the most mediocre of people who take advantage of trump's willingness to listen to any possible theory. and trump, in this case, almost elevated this person to the top law enforcement position in the government. they came this close, and i think the points these lawyers were making was that it wasn't even a close call, how outlanding some of the things jeffrey clark were pushing. >> and had he got ten that role would have told the american people it was corrupt. now, we now going into july because they have a mountain of evidence as i believe it has been described by congressman raskin, more that has come in, so will now go into july. how does this compare to watergate of which you were a central part? >> i think these hearings have been much more professional than

watergate, frankly. they've kept them tight, kept them to a couple hours, little over. they have marshalled their evidence, made it very palpable for the public. watergate went on for seven months of hearings. it was called the summer of watergate, hearings eight hours a day, i testified myself for five days. so this is a very well-honed, i think very inteligable set of hearings with a real impact. >> ryan, do you anticipate charges and if so, when? >> i'd say we are going to see charges coming out of fulton county, georgia, an active investigation. she's already got a special grand jury, district attorney there and doesn't depend on whether he not trump thought he won the election. you can't try to threaten the secretary state of georgia to rejigger the votes so i think

that's quite likely. after today, the hearing itself, mountain of evidence we've seen and the most recent development of the justoice department, ver likely. >> thank you all much, and next, the filmmaker behind the documentary that's become a key part of the january 6th investigation, speaking to ivanka trump's interview that didn't make it into the documenty, plus the doj expanding investigation into the big trump fake elector's scheme, now looking at even more states. when you're tired of looking at your tired old bath, we fit your style, with hundreds of design options. when a norormal day is anything but normal, wewe fit your schedule, with our unique tub over tub process, , installd in as little as a day. when high quality is the only quality that matters, we fit your standards, with a lifetime guarantee. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation.

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tonight, the british film maker behind the documentary that's now a key focus for the january 6th committee is speaking out, alex holder, talking to our own don lemon about what he saw and heard from donald trump's own family, allies as he tried to overturn the election. here is clip just released from the documentary. >> they thought because people showed up to their rallies, that meant they were popular. the idea that other people might

be sitting at home feeling differently about it seems not to have occurred to them. they genuinely thought that must be true. >> we won georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, we won them all. >> as the president has said, every single vote needs to be counted and heard and he campaigned for the voiceless. >> it's interesting to see ivanka trump say her father wanted every vote to be counted because trump's mission in the days after the election was to stop the counting of votes. >> the reality is people in this country were getting multiple ballots in the mail. there are thousands and thousands of people voting in multiple states. >> there's no evidence whatsoever that the voter fraud that they're claiming. >> after weeks of trying to overturn the results of the election, his legal team has come up with nothing. >> so far they've lost 30 cases. >> i would love to release all the information i have, i would love to give it to you all. except, most of you wouldn't cover it. >> all the legal documents and everything else, it's not even a

contest but you still need a judge that has courage and so far, we haven't found that judge. >> not a judge with courage, a judge that lacked morality or respect with facts. every single one of those claims completely run down and was false. so don's interview took place just hours after holder was deposed by the committee and turned over the raw footage from the series which will be released by discovery plus, also owned by cnn's parent company, but it's crucial, holder goes in, testifies, goes out, talks to don, and tells don what the committee wanted to know. >> what was the focus of their questions? >> i think the focus was on the material we captured on january 6th and also some of the interviews as well, some of the interviews that i had with the trump family. >> what were they most interested in today, because you spent hours and hours with the trump family, with trump associates, with the former president, with the former vice-president. so what, what were they most

interested in about the time that you spent with them? >> i think they were interested in them talking about the election and about whether the election had any irregularities and also, their comments, on january 6th. >> did you -- was there anything, because there's a lot of, i'm sure there's a lot that was left on the editing room floor, right, because you only have a certain amount of time to put a documentary together, don't have forever. was there anything they were interested in that does not appear in the documentary? >> yes. so, i mean, the main one being, there's sort of a, the first part of the ivanka trump's sort of reaction to her father's position on the election is in the documentary, but there's another part of it that didn't make it into the documentary, and they were interested in her entire sort of piece on that

particular point. >> and inconsistencies perhaps? she says one thing to her father, another thing to the committee, and perhaps something different in your documentary. were they focused on possible inconsistencies from ivanka trump? >> i think so, yes. >> how so? >> i think they wanted to understand how exactly that particular interview took place and how it came about and i think they, well, i think quite a few people think there's some sort of inconsistencies between what she said to the committee and what she said to me. >> don is with me now. so don, we've only see a few minutes of the actual footage of the documentary itself but you got to talk to alex holder about 45 minutes after he had just come from the committee. what really stood out to you? >> i think really the access he had during this time. i mean he had access from the election to the insurrection, to the inauguration and beyond. just the access he got to the trump family which was interesting. it, it really takes you inside

their mindset and demeanor and really i think how tone-deaf they are and just really not acting in obviously the best interest of the country but just thinking that they could have this film maker behind the scenes and have, you know, spout often all these lies. as i was watching it, you know, just now, had this epiphany. the reason they focus so much on ivanka trump is she was an adviser to the president. eric is in the documentary, other people in the documentary, but today, they said, he said, holder said, they focused on ivanka trump a lot in her possible inconsistencies because she's an adviser to the president of the, the former president of the united states. >> so when you talk about those inconsistencies, you know, we saw one in the documentary clip we just played. a source familiar with the documentary says she said in mid december, 2020, that her father should keep fighting to overturn the election. that's what she was telling him and saying publicly, but it

completely contradicts what she told the committee when she said she believed bill barr. you talked to alex about that and here's that exchange. >> i want to make sure i get what ivanka trump said correctly because she changed her story a couple times. the interview took place in december, cnn is reporting that ivanka trump also told her father he should, quote, fight until every legal remedy is exhausted but told the committee, and this was under oath, that she believed that attorney general bill barr what he said on december 1st when he said there was no evidence of widespread fraud in the election, so did she say one thing to the committee and one thing to her father and one thing to the documentary when she knew her father was going to see it? >> i don't know what she said to her father, but only what she said to me, and clearly there is a difference in the position she said to me and the position she gave to the committee. >> what did they ask you about that today? >> i don't -- i don't go into

too much detail about that . >> can you give us context, go into it, without specifically -- >> just asked some of the questions we just asked which is when it took place, to give becomeground as to how it took place, and when it took place and whether i felt there was a difference in the position and i just made it clear that obviously, i can see a difference as to what that really means outside of that is for other people to determine. >> i'll ask you again, i know you just answered, but what was your answer to them? >> my answer is there's clearly a difference between the position she gave to me and the position she gave to the committee? i think other people would judge that themselves . >> that's the key question, duplicitous. >> she said two things, that he should fight for every vote. that is in the documentary. every legal remedy, asked that question, not in the documentary though, and then that she believed what bill barr said to the committee, so there you go. >> yeah, i mean certainly, at

the very least, believing one thing and saying another. >> you know, it's interesting how, i think you asked me, you know, what was a big take-away, how much this guy's life has changed just over the past couple of days. he now has two armed security guards that travel around with him. never did he think, thought it might get some attention, this documentary, but never thought he would be subpoenaed by the united states congress and have two security guards following him around now, armed security guards, and he is concerned about his safety. that's what's happened to his life just over the past couple of days. >> which is incredible, for something the trump family agreed to because they thought it was very positive for them. don lemon, thank you very much, i want everyone to know don's full interview with alex holder is tonight at 10:00 p.m., join them to see. next, seven states that trump lost, now at the center of the justice department's growing investigation into the big trump electors, plus republicans and democrats divided over a supreme

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tonight, president biden slamming the supreme court's decision today to overturn a 108-year-old new york gun law that severely restricted licenses to carry concealed weapons. the president, calling it a, quote, bad decision, saying it contradicts both common sense and the constitution, and should deeply trouble everyone. jason carol is out front. >> on a scale of one to 10, it's very close to a 10. >> reporter: new york's mayor dealt a bitter blow when he says will make the city less safe, the streets more dangerous. >> today's supreme court decision may have opened an

additional river that is going to feed the sea of gun violence in our city and in our nation. >> reporter: and issued a century-old state law which gave local officials the power to require anyone applying for a permit to carry a concealed handgun in public show proper cause, reasons like a special need for self-defense or not enough. the new york state rifle and pistol association, along with two other petitioners, argued having to show proper cause is unconstitutional. the conservative leaning court agreed, voting 6-3, just as clarence thomas offered the following opinion. new york's proper cause requirement violates the 14th amendment by preventing law- abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms in public. >> we did not need people entering our subways, our restaurants, our movie theaters with concealed weapons. we don't need more guns on our

streets. we are already dealing with a major gun violence crisis. we don't need to add more fuel to this fire. >> reporter: the decision sure to have implications in at least five other states with similar proper cause requirements, including california, maryland, and new jersey. the nra called what happened a major victory for gun rights advocates, tweeting, today's ruling is a watershed when for good men and women all across america. the right to self-defense and to defend your family and loved ones should not end at your home. governor tate reeves of mississippi agreed, tweeting, the supreme court has recognized what mississippi has known all along. that individuals have a right to carry a handgun for self- defense outside the home. the decision still allows the state to ban guns in sensitive places, such as schools and government buildings. legal experts say it's now likely lawmakers will try to

expand that to include other areas such as subways, and will try to throw up other roadblocks to obtaining concealed carry permits, now that having to prove proper cause is unconstitutional in the state. >> and what that means is that the state now has to come up with a new process, and it has to implement that permanent process. and that alone will take months. >> i mean, it's pretty incredible, the implications of this, but it sounds like the supreme court's left the sort of, well, maybe you could bend concealed weapons in certain places. so, somewhat, like you're going to ban it in a park, and what are they going to do, surround the perimeter? >> is a good question. i think justice thomas was writing about that in his opinion, where he also warned the state that expanding the category of sensitive places you want them don't get too broad. he said, quote, there was no historical basis for new york to effectively declare the alling of manhattan a sensitive place, simply because it's

crowded. so there's a? there if you can try to ban guns in a place like central park or times square. madison square park, whatever the case may be. >> right. yeah. you can't even enforce such a thing. it is incredible. as you talk about gun legislation, passing, as limited as it may have been, then you've got this message change. >> bottom line here, more guns will be on the streets legally. gun advocates say because what happened. >> all right. jason carol, thank you very much. and thanks for joining us. ac 360 starts now. >> and good evening, i'm anderson cooper, along with my colleague in washington for a special two hour 360 looking at what was a truly extraordinary date of witness testimony and stunning new details revealed during the january 6 committee hearings. former top officials at the justice department offering details, sometimes moment by moment descriptions of private