donald trump coming forward with information that is >> bill barr, republicans are giving damaging. >> it is not a partisan witch- hunt? >> i know t it is hard to believe. >> thank you. damning testimony today to talk about coming from the hearings that happened up on the hearing today. a lot to discus. we want to get straight to evan perez, senior justice correspondent. the big headline out of today's hearings, trump's allies, helping the former president overturn the election. tell us more about this and how our lawmakers are responding. >> what we are hearing, a blockbuster already before we got to this.

six members of congress that were part of the group that objected to the certification of joe biden's victory who reached out in various places to the white house to ask for pardons, including gates, bigs, taylor-green, gohmert. perry, most of them downplayed there, some of them denied it ever happened gates, i got to tell you, one of the interesting one. he denied all wrongdoing, not charged. but, according to the testimony that we heard in the lawyering today, matt gaetz was asking

for everything pardoned. prosecutors are still looking at him and deciding if he will face these larges. now, this could add complications to matt gaetz. a the this point, you know, again, these members of congress are saying there is nothing to see here. as you can tell from the testimony from people inside of the white house this actually happened. >> not all of them but several of them did. >> you mentioned mr. gaetz -- >> mr. biggs did, mr. gohmert talk about it but never asked me about one. more on an update if the president is going to pardon members of the congress. mr. perry asked for a pardon,

too. i am sorry. >> today, we got a clear reminder it is still going on. federal agents searching former justice official jeffrey clark's home. what do we know? >> we know it is part of of the investigation they are doing into the effort to overturn the election. and clark, it appears, was, the search occurred at his home predawn hours, he was outside in his pajamas as the federal agents went in there, retrieved whatever evidence they were looking for according to one of his office. he was, they took his electrics. again, we don't know exactly what the agents took. but, we know that this is part of the brooder investigation into the effort to overturn the election. it wills us, look, for you to go search a former justice department official's house, you know, they have to believe that they just could not call him and ask for these things. they believe that perhaps there

was going to be destruction of evidence. that is how we had the event that happened yesterday at jeffrey clark's house. >> take a step back. you have been reporting on all things january 6 from day 1. was today's hearing the most important and yet understanding how far trump would go to they in power? the relentless pressure campaign? willingness to undermind the rule of law? >> yes, to me it crystallized how close we came to just utter chaos in this country. look, january 6 was bad. but could you imagine if these three men who were testifying today, if they had folded. if the former president had managed to replace jeffrey rosen with jeff row jeffrey clark , if they just went along with the

plan. it would of given them the ability dispense in their states. these are the states that the donald trump fairly lost. and, you know, again, we are talking about how close things were in those key days. end of december, 2020, beginning of january 2021. you know, to me, you know, having covered these people being in that building during that period it astonishes me reliving all of that today, don, to hear how close we came to losing democracy in this country. i think a lot of americans do not realize this. a lot of people moved on and it is like oh, forget about it, not that big of a deal or, you know, let's let it go. i think it is important for us to relive this simply because we need to learn from it and to make sure it does not happen again, don. >> it is important to get that information out there. thank you, evan, appreciate

that. i am going to bring in congress adam schiff, a california democrat who is a member of the january 6th committee. i want to get to the content of today's hearing with you. first, we obtained a new clip. an outtake from the raw footage from the trump documentary, ivanka trump from middle 2020. >> i think that as the president has said every single vote needs to be counted and needs to be heard. he campaigned for the voiceless and i think a lot of americans feel very, very disenfranchised right now and really question the sanctity of our elections, that is not right, that is not acceptable. he has to take on this fight. look, you fight for what you love the most

and he loves his country and he loves this country's people. he wants to make sure that their voice is heard. and not muted and will continue to fight until every legal remedy is exhausted and that is what he should do. >>ment documentary filmmaker that testified this morning told me it was a big focus of his questioning today. what does this raw footage reveal to you and what did the committee want to know about it from holder. >> it says to me, this is ivanka parroting her father. a lot of people are questioning the election, they are questioning it because you have been lying about it. she goes on to say, you know, he is fighting for what he loves the most. he was, which was donald trump. that is what he loves the most, not the country. as these top justice department people

pointed out so graphically today what he was fighting for them to do was violate their oath of office, ignore the constitution and write this letter and talking about fraud and call the legislation back in session and have these letters sent out to other states as well. it took the threat of mass resignations, you know, 100 to 150 top lawyers around the country resigning to get the president to stop. and i think it showed us just how close we came to constitutional collapse. >> i want to compare that to what ivanka said what she told your committee under oath. here it is. >> i respect attorney general barr. so i accepted what he said, was saying. >> barr had given that assessment, she claims she believed on december

1st in 2020 but in middle december she was saying things appearing to be contradictory. >> i would need to see the full tape of the interview done by the british documentary filmmaker before i could really say but certainly on the basis of that excerpt she is saying one thing under oath and another for public consumption. sadly it is a trump family story of, you know, telling one thing publicly and another thing privately and here we get maybe the truth? under oath? but, very difficult to tell. >> does it matter that she told the truth under oath from a legal perspective? >> absolutely. there is no jeopardy to her in lying to british filmmaker if she was lying to the filmmaker, lying under oath exposes you to

criminal penalties. there is a far stronger incentive to be truthful when you are testifying before congress. >> you can lie to the press people do it all of the time, sadly, you can not lie to congress and officials under oath. let's move on to the pardons that the committee says your colleagues asked for. gaetz, brooks, gohmert, perry. >> to think of how unprecedented it is. i have been in congress for 20 years and never seen anything like it. multiple members of congress seeking a pardon from the administration for their role in something. of course, here the role was in a lot to overturn the election. it shows guilty and fear of criminal liability. that is why you would seek a pardon. that is really just another shock to the

system particularly when so many of them appeared to have denied it. >> there was a search yesterday at jeffrey clark's residence. does your committee have any information to aid the doa in their investigation? >> i am sure we have information that the department would be interested in. and, we are in dialogue how to share that information and what particular information they need. but they made an unprecedented request, just open your files to us. that is not what is done. i have been involved in several high profile congressional investigations that ran concurrently with doa and they never just said just give us files nor have we said it. we will make sure they get what they need. we want them to obviously be successful in holding people accountable and bringing them to justice. i think our goals are aligned in that we all want accountability. >> listen, people think that

the justice department and the congress that you guys near cahoots but the justice department asked you to open up and give them everything you have and you have denied? >> well, we said look, we will work with you but you will have to be specific about what you need and give us a sense of why you need it. that is traditionally how this process has worked. and, and the justice department should be able to do that. i am confident we will work it out. it was breath taking to have that initial request just say give us everything. >> your next hearing has been pushed to july. your colleague says the committee has gotten a deluge of new evidence, can you characterize the information what does it pertain to? >> well, you know, the reality is we continue to get new information pretty much every day. sometimes every week. it really is aided in our investigation but presents a challenge. you start preparing for a hearing and then suddenly you get new additional

information and you need to figure out how to make sure to incorporate the most important things. it is a nice problem to have. we have been very lucky to have lots of people cooperate like these three senior republican justice department officials and those that are not cooperating, they stand out for their unwillingness to do the patriotic thing that we see others doing. >> congressman, thank you for your time, i know you are busy. >> thank you. >> thank you. just moments ago the senate successfully passed a major bipartisan gun safety bill for the first time in decades. straight to cnn's correspondent, jessica, hello, thank you for joining, the senate voting on the gun safety bill tonight. it is a big deal, a deal like this has not gotten through. >> you can tell it was a big deal watching the senators. i was inside the chamber, there

was a lot of hugging, fist pumping and high-fives. both between democrats and to the republican negotiators on this. stopping and talking. it was jubilent in there for people that supported it. the final vote, 65-33. that is pretty overwhelming bipartisan in this 50/50 senate to see the gun legislation go through. not something many had on their bingo card for this year, frankly, then uvalde happened and it changed everything. now we see this legislation that is going to do things like close the boyfriend loophole, expand background checks on younger gun buyers, really revolutionize mental health funding and school country and school safety funding things like that. it is an expansive bill in that way. it will now head to the house we are told

tomorrow. house speaker nancy pelosi sending out a statement it will go to the rules committee first as it normally would and then vote on it in the house tomorrow and then head to president biden's desk for his signature. again, i really can not underscore enough how massive of a deal it is. you mentioned it. decades since either the house or the senate has been able to get through gun legislation that can go to the president's desk. to see it happen today was pretty monumental in the senate. also worth noting, don, that on this very same day, just across the street at the supreme court, we saw something swinging in the other direction when it comes to gun laws in the country. we saw the supreme court overturning the new york law that has to do with restrictions on care permits. two sides of the spectrum here in washington, d.c., far less than a mile from each other, just in each other's

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former top doj officials testifying that the then president tried to weaponnize to overturn the election telling them to just declare that the election was corrupt and demanding why they did not seize. seize the voting machines, i as well say. let's discus it now. senior political analysts. former deputy assistant attorney general. glad to have you all on. this hearing was rivetting, let's talk about the conversation between donald trump and richard donahue on december 27th of 2020. donahue took handwritten notes of what trump was asking the doj,

watch. >> let's put up the notes where you quote the president as you are speaking to that. the president said just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. that is a direct quote from president trump, correct? >> that is an exact quote from the president, yes. >> the next note shows that even that the president kept pressing. even though he had been told there was no evidence of fraud, the president keeps saying that the department was quote obligated to tell people that this was an illegal corrupt election. >> that is also an exact quote from the president. yes. >> leave the rest to me even after being told reportedly there was no fraud. did not seem to want the truth. does that is a something about trump's motivation. his state of blind? >> it is breathtaking. yes, of course, what it says he

is completely indifferent to the facts which he has been told about again and again and again. look, let's make a deal. just say it is corrupt you don't have to do anything else and i can go out and wave around the paper from the department of justice that will the states will back off and by the end of day who will be president. does not care what the facts are just wants the read meat quote talking point to use and, at the end of that we heard a little bit about that but he adds me and the republican congressman will take care of everything. you don't say that unless you have been talking about it. this was a breathtaking truly attempted coup. >> when you see this note that

trump said that doj is obligated to tell the people it is illegal and corrupt. he had no idea how the doj worked he just wanted them to bend to his will. >> he looked at the entire agency working for him in every way. i thought it was the most rivetting that congress held since john dean in 1973. as noted one of the things we are learning is that the president, trump, was told over and over and over and over again that his claims had no basis in fact, and he was told that his actions were illegal. and yet he pressed forward on them. and, you know, when you look at the courage these justice department officials displayed it puts the spotlight on the current people in the justice department and if they will have the political fortitude to go where

this evidence seems to be leading which is towards serious contemplation. >> i saved rudy giuliani for you. >> why, because we use the same hair dye? >> watch this. [ laughter ] beyond the president i do recall saying to people that somebody should be put in large of the justice department who isn't frightened of what is going to be done to their reputation. because judgment was filled with people like that. >> there was only one reason, really, to put clark in. it was to rubber stamp the lies? >> i guess it might be easier to lie if

you are holding your mandibles and force them to move. that was the weirdest. pregnant pauses and i, you know, it really, i think, emphasizes and brings to a light, there was a team normal and people pushing back on the crazy conspiracy theories and he was one of the leaders and worst culprits and accomplices in team lying, traders, threats to the democracy lunatics. and i, you know, as long as i live i will never forget the damage that trump and giuliani have done to democracy and to regular americans if johnny depp can win a tkef mission suit they can win one before he spends money on golf and wives. >> the idea that they were running down the wild ideas for election

fraud, the truck driver moved ballots to pennsylvania and the wildest one, italian satellite switching votes from trump to biden. i mean, donahue called it insanity. it is grim, the idea that the last days of the administration were fueled by these crazy internet theories, conspiracy theories there is no defense to it. it is damming. what strikes me as, every day we see this evidence coming out and you see just how disposable they thought other human beings were. rudy giuliani saying we need to find someone who does not care about their reputation. your reputation is damaged if you are going to commit crimes. that would be. they did not care about the two

election volunteers in georgia. they did not care. all along they don't care about, they did not care about mike pence. starting with the vice president all of the way down to election workers. it is grim, it is indefensible. no defense of it. i don't know how it is all going to turn out but every day it has been a kas indicating river of something worse than before cascading river of something worse than before. >> did you agree what ron said was most since dean? >> well, it is the most dramatic. the difference is, of course, he already is out of office. i guess the real question would be what are the consequences of the hearing before the 2024 campaign? if trump seeks the nomination of the republican party again. i guess we will see how it is

and if the republicans decide that we got to do something else in 2024 because we simply can not do this again. >> all right. i will continue this conversation with you. it is fascinating. we will take a quick break and talk about the threat by top doj brass to resign all at once if the new attorney general is installed. no, i am not talking about watergate but we just did, but we are not talking about watergate but what they say, history does not repeat itself but it often rhymes, i am joined by watergate prosecutor, that is next i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. what are the three ps?

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today's testimony showing that then president was warned explicitly

by doj officials he would face everyone leaving if went to jeffrey clark. listen. >> he said, so, suppose i do this. suppose i replace him, jeff rosen with him, jeff clark. what would you do? i said mr. president i will resign immediately. i am not working one minute for this guy who i just declared was incompetent. the president immediately turned to mr. engle. he said steve, you wouldn't resign, would you? he said absolutely mr. president, you leave me no close. we are not the onones, no one cares if we resign. steve and i go that is fine but you will lose your entire leadership. every one will walk out within hours. and i don't know what happens after that. i do not know what the united

states attorneys are going to do. we have u.s. attorneys in districts across the country. my guess would be that many of them would have resigned. and that would then have led to resignations across the department in washington and i said mr. president within 24, 48, 72 hours you will have hundreds and hundreds of resignation of the leadership of your entire justice department because of your actions, what is that going to say about you? >> let's discus now. former assistant white house prosecutor. watergate prosecutor. thank you very much for joining us. what do you think he said. you believe there would be hundreds and hundreds? >> i think it would be pretty damming what would happen. it was reminiscent of it when cox was fired. he was ordered to fire fox, he refused to

do it. he ordered his deputy attorney to do it. refused to do it. what we did not know is when york did it was the agreement among the three of them, nixon, the attorney general, would both resign and refuse to do it. they made a compliment to the senate that they would only fire cox for gross improprioties. they wanted someone in the department of justice so nixon would not put one of his cronies in. >> donahue noted he was unqualified to lead the doj. on january 3rd there were white house call log that refer to jeffrey clark as the acting ag. did trump just assume he would get his way? >> of course, he thought he would put him in there. he was put in there as a puppet. what i found disturbing is

eastman inserted and installed an employee in the middle of december with only a couple weeks left of the term of donald trump to be a member and employee of department of justice whose only purpose would have been to tell jeffrey clark what to do. he had no conception was what it was to be the attorney general. no background in criminal law. never been to a grand jury, a trial jury. he was simply an environmental lawyer. and certainly he was not qualified to be attorney general. >> this has been fascinating to me today to listen to hear about these e-mails that several republicans sought pardons from trump,. >> accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. why else would you ask for a pardon unless you were concerned you were going to be prosecuted for a crime you committed.

>> before i let you go, is there anything to come of these hearings what do you think? >> i think, yes, this evidence ultimately will be used by criminal prosecutors. if it will be in the department of justice, in the federal side, or if it is going to be in georgia it is going to be used. if you use it in georgia it explains what happen inside georgia in the context of all of the evidence. if you use it from the department of justice, then it will be a crime that will be prosecuted as a federal crime. so, there are a couple avenues here that we are not going to know where it is going until we see what all of the evidence is that is ultimately gathered here, by the department of justice and through the committee. >> listen, we learned a lot today, happening in these conversations, we learned the tense conversation where trump is drilling donahue, he battled that down, you know, that single one. what do you think, does it show

criminal intent on trump's part? gives him an argument that he believed what he was say something. >> there is no way he believed what he was saying. >> thank you very much, i agree with that. end of story, right? >> look, the whole idea of this lie, he won the election. this is the same thing he told the candidate that he was backing in the pennsylvania primary was the wizard of oz, the guy he was backing, just claim that you won. that is his whole technique. his technique is to get in there and make up a lie because a lot of people will believe it. it is the president of the united states. >> always a pleasure. >> always. >> thank you very much for coming in. really appreciate it. liz cheney ending the hearing speaking directly to trump supporters, what she said, next

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as promised i am back now. so, harry, let's start with you, we now have heard about all of the pressure campaigns on pence. local officials, now, the doj. is there a clear case here for the doj to pursue here? >> there is. now, you and i talked about this before if it automatically follows if they have the goods on him. they got the goods on him. look. the charge that clark would face, and it is manifest, it is a conspiracy to defraud the united states or something of a valid election. you have to conspire to someone. there are few here, we learned about more and more people interestingly today. definitely he shares in clark's liability. down the line, 100%.

if they go after clark, by the way they are, they served a search warrant. they came a long way just from just the rioters, going down that road, it ends with trump. they can not stop short without investigating trump. not to say they will charge him. they are looking at it. one more thing, clark is a ready made guy to co-operate to turn on trump. trump made him a stooge. he is ruined. he has something to offer. he is now a dangerous plan as is eastman for the former president. >> man, i feel like i am watching the godfather which i did watch last weekend. >> it is. >> it is. >> so, scott, committee vice chair, liz cheney, ended the hearing with a message to trump supporters, listen. >> let me also, today, make a brooder statement to millions of americans who put their trust in donald trump.

in these hearings so far you have heard from more than a dozen republicans who have told you what actually happened in the weeks before january 6th. you will hear from more in the hearings to come. several of them served donald trump and his administrations. others in his campaign. others have been conservative republicans for their entire careers. it can be difficult to accept that president trump abused your trust. that he deceived you. many will invent excuses to ignore that fact. but that is a fact. i wish it weren't true. but it is. >> are republican's listening, scott? my am certain some are listening. if that brings them off of their desire to see trump renominated i am sure some will. this is ultimately the fundamental question, i am not a lawyer, but the political question for the republican party is, do you want to

go down this road again in it is entirely possible to be enormously proud of many of the things that were accomplished in the trump years from the supreme court to whatever. it can be simultaneously true that you can conclude after all of this there is no way we can do this again. that is the message, really, that we will see play out over the next several months as the republican primary for president ramps up. i assume many of the candidates are going to make that argument. i supported donald trump, i voted for him. he did a great job and i think he was wrong about january 6th. we just can not do this again. >>and the committee saying six republican congress members reached out to the white house for pardons and the committee says they can prove it. how ugly do you think this can get? >> we are already seeing it is getting ugly. mo brooks today sent, basically, a

confirmation that it was true. to me, the real question was really twisted. donald trump, who has handed out pardons like it was halloween candy, you know, if it was kim kardashian asking, he likes to toy with people. think about it, mo brooks was part of this conspiracy. he was part of the scheme and didn't even earn donald trump's forget the pardon he did not get the endorsement for the race he just lost in alabama. so, the way that trump toys with people demands loyalty but does not give it back. liz cheney, you know, certain figures in history that we remember, even decades afterwards, one of them would be larry

hogan. the maryland governor, his father that stood up during watergate against nixon. it cost him his seat. she will be remembered by history very kindly. >> and kim kardashian was asking for pardons for others. >> maybe they should of gotten her to ask. >> others are saying his claims were false and trump did not care and kept on trying to change the outcome. a gop favorite for 2024, where do we go from here? >> the watergate contrast is significant. people forget that nixon's approval rating among republican voters fell 40 points from the months after his reelection to the moment he resigned. one reason was, you did not have fox actively trying to rebut the evidence. there were elected officials at every stage. each point in the investigation

that validated that it was important and that what nixon did was wrong. contrast that to now, rubio, before it even started, before a witness was heard said it was garbage, a circus, a kangaroo court, republicans that know better, that know what trump did was wrong like mcconnell are saying i am too busy to watch it. if there are republicans who believe this was wrong and are saying they can not say so because of their base, that is simply wrong, don. they have the ability to influence the base if they are willing to come out and say what they have heard is significant. look at the courage of the justice department officials and compare it to the silence of the republican elected officials today and it is a poor contrast. >> i don't know how big of a difference today will make but i think today was we shall see. we'll be right back.

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