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>> good evening, we begin tonight with two developments into the january 6th investigation. the first concerns john eastman, the trump lawyer who cooked up the scheme to overturn the election. the one that former white house attorney eric harshman told to quote, get a great criminal defense lawyer. we learned tonight that the fbi has seized his phone. eastman did nothing to dispel suspicion when he went before the select committee, took the fifth over and over again. >> i assert my fifth amendment right to being compelled to be a witness against myself. >> did the trump legal team ask you to prefer a memorandum regarding the vice president's role in the counting of electoral votes in joint sessions of congress, 26, 2021? doctor eastman, did you advise the president of the united
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states that the vice president could reject electors from seven states and declare that the president had been reelected? >> fifth. >> doctor eastman, the first sentence of the memo start off by saying that seven states have transmitted dual slates of electors to the president of the senate, is that statement in its memo true? >> fifth. >> did president trump authorize you to discuss your january 4th 2021 conversation? >> fifth. >> is it your position that you can discuss in the medium direct conversations that you have with the president of the united states, but you will not discuss those same conversations with this committee? >> fifth. >> the second development tonight concerns the select committee. it is a surprise. the committee today announcing it will hold proceedings tomorrow in which it would quote, present recently obtained evidence and received witness testimony. cnn's ryan nobles is with us
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tonight with more on both stories, starting with the eastman seizure. which sounds like a robert lug when title. robert, how did they get the phone? >> it's important to point out that we only know john eastman side of this. he issued a court filing complaining about the way that the fbi went about obtaining this information. saying he was leaving a dinner with his wife and a friend when a group of fbi investigators came up and started asking him for information. they searched him, they were able to obtain his phone. they got into his phone by using his facial recognition to open the phone up and then got access to the information inside of it. so we are not exactly sure which branch of the fbi was looking into eastman and his role and all of this. he believes that it is the justice department's inspector general, but they are not responding to our questions about that tonight. we do know this anderson. this shows that the department of justice continues to expand its investigation in efforts to undermine the election results and how that pertains to
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january 6th. and we know from the work of the january 6th select committee, that john eastman was a key player and all that happening. >> we should point out this happened last week. wasn't at the same day, i think it was last week, is that correct? >> that's correct, it was friday. to your point, it was the same day as we know that federal investigators went into the home of jeffrey clark, who was the department of justice lawyer who was part of the effort inside of the trump administration to try to get the department of justice to look into allegations of voter fraud. that were completely unfounded. clarks efforts were ultimately turned back by jeffrey rosen in richard donahue, the acting attorney general and his deputy. and we do know anderson that donald trump wanted to make jeffrey clark the attorney general so that he could force that effort that trump was looking into. but as both rosen and donahue testified in the hearing last week, there would have been a mass exodus of department of justice lawyers had trump attempted to install clark as the attorney general. >> right, this about the
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department of justice independent of what the january six committee is doing. we are reporting about eastman today because we just learned about as you said because of that court filing. there also new details about this last-minute hearing that the january six committee had it for tomorrow. they were not expected to do anything this week at least. do we know why or who they are talking to? >> yes, this is a huge surprise anderson. because the committee had made such a big deal of the fact that they were going to take a break. that they had brought in a lot of new information as a result of their hearings and they were going to try to process that information and then not come back with another round of hearings until the middle of july. they are also somewhat required by congressional rules to advise when they're holding a hearing a week ahead of time. there are only very extenuating and really emergency surge instances that allow them to bring together a hearing at the last minute. that is seems to be what has precipitated this hearing tomorrow. they say that they have no information, we witness testimony that they believe needs to get out into the public. they just announced their plans this afternoon for a 1:00 hearing. eastern time tomorrow.
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we do not exactly know who the witnesses will be, what information is, but the fact that they through this together so quickly shows that it could be very important. >> yes, i mean it certainly raised expectations considerably. >> there is no doubt about that. all of the members of the committee had gone home to their districts for july 4th recess. they were not expected to even be back into washington until the first week of july. so the fact that they are changing their plans, many of them coming back to washington very quickly, shows that this is something significant. and you are right anderson, just from a public perception standpoint, the fact that they are drawing this much attention to this hearing shows that they have information that could be very important. the expectations are going to be very high. at this point, the committee is not doing anything to downplay those expectations heading into this hearing tomorrow. >> we will be covering it obviously from d.c. tomorrow. ryan nobles, thank you for joining us. now former virginia congressman daniel riggleman who served as senior technical adviser to the select committee. cnn legal analyst and former
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fraternal prosecutor elie honig. elie, the fact that the doj was seizing eastman's phone, what hoops do they have to jump through in order to make that happen? >> anderson, so this is a big step and it tells us a few things. first of, prosecutors need to establish that they have probable cause, not necessarily proof among a reasonable doubt, the probable cause a crime was committed. and when you make that showing, you have to write it out, i've done this, you have to be specific. here is our evidence, here's the crime we think has been committed. they also have to show that it is likely that they will find evidence of that crime in the item that they are seizing. apparently in this case, john eastman's phone. and importantly, a federal judge has to independently review that and agree that there is probable cause. again, i have been through that, sometimes judges look at the affidavits and say yes, you have established probable cause, here is your search warrants sometimes they say no, i disagree. so we know that the doj believes they have probable cause anderson and we know that a federal judge has agreed. >> so the bar is pretty high in order to get the phone. congressman riggleman, what do
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you make of this season of the phone and will kind of information, why did they need to seize the physical phone, what information can they get off that? >> they can get a lot of great information. it's just to hear elie talk about the running affidavits, i've never did, that i definitely ripped the phones once we get the ability to do so. also listening before anderson, i think everybody around january 6th are disabling their facial technology right now based on how eastman had his phone taken. what's in the phone, you can see deleted data files, you can see what's underestimate text messages, can look at the apps, with apps of been used. you can find the geolocation. there is a lot that you can glean from my phone. that is what i find interesting right now, eastman is also fighting the call detail records to go to the committee. there is a lot of individuals in the january 6th committee that are fighting their call detail records. many of the principles, because it is so valuable we can get off a phone. quality tell records can get all kinds of great things off of called detailed records.
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but actually ripping iphone through something called cell x, cell exploitation. something that gets me pretty excited, no weird way, but it definitely gets me excited if i can get on that phone and see the type of files that they're looking at. my gosh, you can see their formations. and once you get into deleted files and permissions and emails, you can certainly see some of the things they were doing and even looking at text messages they have on their phones and even things like signal chaps and things like that. it is very valuable to get into that phone. >> elie, he is filing in court to try to get the phone back to try to make it so that they say the way that it was taken that was inappropriate. are they allowed to use, physically take his phone and hold it up to his face and uses face to open it up? >> so what is interesting anderson, if you look at john eastman's memo, it says quote, he quotes the permission that he gave the federal prosecutors and the federal judge authorized prosecutors to use biometric data, meaning the purporting face, to open the
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phone. so yes, they did have permission from the federal judge according to eastman's own filing. his motion here to get his phone back is essentially a hail mary. those almost never succeed. normally the way it works is that once the government prosecutors use evidence and a case, then you can move before trial to throw that evidence out. but at this, point it is way too early, eastman's motion here has next to no chance of succeeding. >> congressman riggleman, and somebody who worked with the january 6th committee, what do you make of the surprise hearing announced for tomorrow afternoon? >> i do not think that they would bring people back and that is it was important. i do not want to overstep my skis here. but so far you have seen the committee do very well. they've been careful of how they present their witnesses, they've been professional. i don't think this is a drama lane exercise where they want attention. i think that somebody reached out to them. somebody they have been working with and they really want to talk. and if they are calling people back right now from all of the things that we have seen in the last week. and again, i don't like to speculate. because of the committee is worried about security, i'm worried about security. but on the other hand, i think
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people can look at this and say that if the committee is calling back a witness tomorrow, and there are security concerns, this is a pretty darn big deal. if you have people coming back and talking about what we saw with the three attorneys that we just saw, talking about rosen, donahue, involved, my guess is that it is a continuation of that. but again, i do not want to speculate. but this is a pretty big deal. >>, at least the they've's scheduled this so suddenly. i guess they could have something time sensitive that they needed to move on this week. >> anderson, i agree with congressman riggleman, the committee has done a good job of delivering on their promises. they've not gone out on limbs unnecessarily. i've been in situations like this as a trial prosecutor doing investigations. sometimes an opportunity comes along that you have a witness that a has some very important information and be, you are not confident you are going to be able to keep that witness in the fold. you don't know, sometimes people change stores, people get to people, who knows. so what do you do, i used to put them in the grand jury that. i would say we are going right
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now. as soon as i can reserve a half hour in the grand jury. tells me that something urgent, tells me it is something they want to get in tomorrow. >> congressman riggleman, appreciate you being with us, elie honig as well, thank you so much, we are following grim news out of north central missouri. an amtrak train has derailed and at least three people have been killed. southwest chief was heading east from los angeles to chicago when it hit a truck at a crossing. a little more than 100 miles northeast of kansas city. cnn's nick valencia is monitoring developments, joining us now. we are authorities saying, tell us? >> hey anderson, this happened at an uncontrolled crossing. meaning there was no electronic devices keeping vehicles from being on the tracks. there was no lights. it happened in a very rural area. as you see from the video, about two hours north east of kansas city. this amtrak train traveling from los angeles to chicago, carrying 243 passengers and 12 crew. among them, at least 50 injured and three of them killed. two of them on the train and one we understand from the missouri highway patrol was in the dump truck that was blocking the railway.
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this is just really terrifying stuff that happened. listen to one of those eyewitnesses that survived this harrowing experience. >> the hardest part from what i heard was the people in the dining cart and the observation deck. they didn't have barriers to step on to get out. and that was, all the cars knocked over, except the main engine. the latter cars got the worst of it. >> the scene has multiple train cars overturned, some on their sides, two locomotives we understand were also part of this accident. and according to the ntsb, they are sending a team that is expected to arrive tomorrow. all of this is developing and still very much a fluid situation. >> horrible to think about. it's atlanta, thank you very much appreciated. coming up next, the fall already starting from friday's landmark abortion ruling. we are keeping them honest. and later, danny sebastian's exclusive interview with vice president kamala harris.
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friday's supreme court ruling overturning roe v. wade. a federal judge so south carolina abortion beginning at six weeks. the so called fetal heartbeat law was in the first repercussion, certainly won't be the last. the court's most controversial decision in generations. tonight, three days after the court overturned a woman's federally protected right to an abortion, we are just beginning to get a very limited sense of what might follow. here's what we know for sure. the orange states on the map have laws restricting abortion access access including 13 with trigger provisions. designed to kick into action after roe v. wade was overturned. banning abortion ten days in mississippi and louisiana however, federal and state judge put the measure on hold. but even in states without them, where abortions are available now, so my pennsylvania are just a 2022 governors race away from banning abortion.
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recent polling shows that antiabortion republican doug mastriano within his two points of his democratic appointment in a state where republicans already control the legislature. as for the substantial percentage of women who now and their pregnancies early with medication, there is a question of states can ban access to it and it is an open question. so is what happens to in vitro fertilization, which dockers create many fertilized aids but free s'more discards on because they might not re-solved and healthy babies. because some nine states with a fine life is beginning at the moment of conception, some worried that the -- even before friday's ruling, there are reports of patients and providers moving embryos to other states. another question, to which there is no answer yet, what about miscarriages? well prosecutors in some state turned the women who have had them and their health providers into suspects. there is also the question of the supreme court's credibility. polling shows confidence in the court and an all-time low. just 25%. possible region is justices that suggest one thing in the
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confirmation hearings and then do the opposite on the court. here is what brett kavanaugh said in 2018. >> one of the important things to keep in mind about roe v. wade is that it has been reaffirmed many times over the past 45 years. as you know. and most prominently, most importantly, reaffirmed in planned versus casey in 1992. that makes casey a precedent on precedent. >> precedent on precedent that he voted to abandon. he suggested he wouldn't but he did. gore six expressed similar thoughts. many republican senators susan collins took both at the word and said that, this decision is inconsistent with justices or truck and kavanaugh said in a meeting with me. as the matter of the president, friday's ruling raises more questions. you will recall on his opinion that justice clarence thomas
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told the court to reconsider all of this court substantive due process, including griswold, and -- in case you are familiar with the names, that means access to contraception, decriminalizing same-sex marriage. when asked whether republicans to support fridays decision should have to defend the possibility, the court will not stop at abortion, here's one minority leader kevin mccarthy had to say. >> read the opinion, alito said no. this is only dealing with roe v. wade, not with anything else. so i do not think it will be used in the campaign because it is inoculated from the. >> that is not with justices clarence thomas is saying and vice president harris sees fridays just the beginning, here's what she told cnn's. >> i definitely believe this is not over, i do. i think he just said the quiet part out loud. and i think that is why we all must really understand the significance of what just happened.
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this is profound. >> again, much of what she is talking about is still down the road, if in fact it comes to pass, some is happening right now. the effects are getting real people in realtime. our randi kaye visited an abortion clinic in alabama, one of three in the state. >> alabama woman's center. >> it is only am and the phones at the alabama woman center in huntsville are ringing off of the hook. >> alabama woman center. >> just days after abortion suddenly became illegal in this state, this is now the standard response from staff. >> this is the overturn of roe v. wade, we recommend that you consider looking into other states. >> this 18 year old showed up at the clinic today still hoping to get an abortion, but was told that they can't help her, she agreed to speak with us if we hit her identity. she says that she is two months pregnant. >> did you know that roe v. wade had been overturned when you came here today?
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>> i did, but i did not know that it was already causing places to stop doing that. >> so you thought you could still come here and get an abortion today? >> what did you think when you realized that you could not get one? >> i started crying, i just do not think it is fair, no matter the situation, that you should have an abortion >> doctor yashica robinson runs the abortion center, one of three operating in alabama before roe is overturned. >> i felt powerless as a physician. i know how to care for these patients. it's like you have the tools to help somebody and you choose not to help them. and that is hard for me. >> abortion is now illegal in alabama. except in cases where the health of the mother is substantially at risk or the fetus is not expected to survive. there are no exceptions for rape or incest. providers break the law, they could go to prison. >> i know exactly what my attorneys have told me is safe
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for me to say. and so i feel like somebody is calling for help and i'm giving them a vague answer and it feels hypocritical to me. >> you are concerned about aiding and abetting? >> exactly. this 18-year-old who asked not to be identified came to this clinic for an abortion just days before roe was overturned. >> i am proud of the decision i made. >> she was 11 weeks pregnant when she had her abortion and is grateful that she had a choice. >> what do you think about all of those women who have been turned away or had appointments canceled and now will no longer be able to get an abortion? here >> i feel so bad for those girls, because i remember that this was a hard decision for me, i could not imagine being looked into my face and being told no. >> and now after the other 18-year-old we met was told no at the clinic, she is even more scared as she tries to figure out what to do next. >> do you feel sort of lost right now? >> do you have any idea where you will go? >> do you feel like he will be
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forced to have this baby? >> i know i am going to get it done. but i'm going to try, because i do not want it, i don't want to have, so i'm going to try to go somewhere. but it's stressful, because i feel like i might not be able to find a place in time. >> and as of right, now she said she might try to go somewhere, if she wanted to go to another state, what other states nearby would be available to her? >> right now anderson georgia would be the shortest drive from here in huntsville alabama. but time is of the offense because that is the governor of georgia signed a bill into law back in 2019, which bans abortions at six weeks, now that is caught up in court, opposing parties can go to court, they can make their argument up until july 14th at this point, but that can change at any day and so time is really important for this woman, if she is going to make an
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appointment at a clinic in georgia and dr. robinson told us that a lot of the clinics in these states that are still allowing abortion are getting really overwhelmed and overcrowded and so that these women do have to act fast and just imagine, the scene anderson, this 18 year old with a friend of hers in tow these two young women on a summer day, driving around, visiting, serving abortion clinics to see if one of them will go ahead and do that procedure. so it is a very difficult time for women. in fact, not just these younger women, but dr. robinson told us about a 28-year-old women who came into her clinic today, looking to get her fallopian tubes tied. that would prevent pregnancy. she is going to take that extreme step, because she is very concerned about getting pregnant here in alabama and not being able to have an abortion if she chooses to. so she is going to take that step and have her tubes tied anderson. >> appreciate the report. coming up next, a massive airstrike killed more than a dozen civilians today at a ukrainian mall. this after a weekend attack at the capital of kyiv. i will speak to a resident of kyiv, a wife, a mom, who has been on our broadcast many
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>> in addition to the grinding, bloody fight going on in eastern ukraine tonight, missile tacchetto mall in the central part of the country today, at least 15 are dead there, officials say that the number could rise, they do not how many maybe buried on either rubble. president zelenskyy says that about 1000 or more had been in
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the mall before the air raid was announced. he called the attack one of the most daring terrorist accident european history. it comes a day after missile attack at the capital of kyiv, one dead, six wounded in that. among those wounded a seven year old girl. just before airtime tonight, i spoke with the lanagan s, it wasn't of kyiv who has appeared on this broadcast a number of times since the war began. she has been sheltering in a basement in kyiv for much of the war, but tonight is back in her apartment with her three children. >> atlanta, it has been over a month since we last spoke, with these bombings in the city over the weekend one of them, hitting an apartment building, how are you, how are your kids doing. >> i am fine, as fine as i can be, but i mean, the war still goes on, so i can't tell you that i am completely fine, because it is not fine, and you mentioned in the latest video that you posted on your youtube channel, you started hearing these recent air raid sirens. you had the kid go into the
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apartment corridor to try to shelter. >> basically shortly after we spoke, after we visited kyiv, we came back to the apartment, we left the shelter and we decided to stay in the apartment despite the aerate siren's. so we right now are at home, children are sleeping in their room i sleep on the floor with the rain up between them, between their beds. but we do not hide in the shelter anymore, yes what we do is stay in the corridor, between using the so-called rule of tool walls. honestly i do not think it will help a lot, because we see when there is missiles falling sometime several forceful down. but it gives an illusion of safety. >> that decision to leave the shelter, because you had been staying in this basement shelter really a basement long after many people had returned
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to their homes, can you just talk about how that must of been a very hard decision for you, to finally decide you know what, i'm going to stay at home. >> i mean my neighbors, they have friends who stayed all the time in the west of ukraine, even abroad and they have friends who have started to come back, and we were probably the last family to sleep overnight in the bomb shelter so i decided to overcome my fear and come back home. >> these airstrikes and haven't shot that hit a shopping mall, 11 people so far that we know have been killed, when you hear, you see russia continuing to strike these civilian centers like a shopping mall, an apartment building does it surprise you anymore, i'm sure it doesn't anymore, but it still is horrific and shocking. >> i mean, it becomes more and more obvious that russia is a
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terrorist state. i keep saying it. and now it is obvious. i don't know how many more victims we need. how many more we need to fully recognize that russia is a terrorist state. and putin is the criminal, the terrorist. there need to be stopped. >> it has been over four months since russia invaded ukraine. the last time we spoke, you tell me we're worried this become a forgotten war. do you feel like people are losing interest in what is happening in ukraine. how do his fealty on the ground? >> it feels like we are getting more and more support from the world, and now more the promise of support. but at the same time, some support is coming too late. the weapons, this is what we need, so i do not feel that the war is forgotten and i would like to say thank you to
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whoever listens and can hear me right now, that we are so grateful that we are not forgotten and that we have this support. we know your husband, early on, immediately when the war began volunteered to fight with the territorial defenses and keefe, obviously you can't say now where he is, how is he doing? >> we are keeping in touch and i know that he is today fine and i hope that he will be fined tomorrow, he will be fine tomorrow too. has missed so much. eight months old and four was four months old. so basically half of her life. >> i can't believe how big she is. >> she is really big, right now
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she can stand, she tries to walk, she falls down all the time. but she is having this. and she is very curious and smart, she wants to put everything into her mouth, especially just wants to try. >> i don't want to keep you up to lay, is there anything that you want people to know? >> just one thing, that russia is a terrorist state. this is something that we keep saying today, it's like a new wave of our despair. this attack on the shopping mall. you should see what was going on today at the playground. the playground, loads of children. we understand it's the war, we see this in kremenchuk happening. all the parents were sad, tears
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on their eyes. children on the playground, having fun, laughing. all of this was so surreal. i mean how is it possible that a huge state is doing such terrible crimes every day. >> elena garnet, thank you for speaking with us as always. >> thank you. >> up next, a cnn exclusive interview with vice president kamala harris. her first interview since the supreme court struck down roe v. wade. we'll have that reaction and also she has to say about the economy in the 2024 presidential race. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. ...free your gut. and your mood will follow.
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>> one of roe v. wade being overturned by the supreme court. today vice president kamala harris sat down with our dana brash for a exclusive interview, the first since the court handed down the decision. they've also discuss the economy and the presidential race in 2020, four here are some of that exclusive interview. >> you are saying now that the president said that this row is on the ballot. but what do you say to democratic voters who argue, wait a minute, we worked really
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hard, to elect a democratic president and vice president. >> democratic led house, a democratic-led senate, do it now, but do what now? >> we need, listen, what we did, we extended the child tax credit. >> when i say do it, now act, legislatively to make abortion rights legal. we feel the same way, do it now congress is to do it now in terms of permanently putting in place a clear indication that it is the law of the land that women have the ability and the right to make decisions about the reproductive care and that the government does not have the right to make those decisions for a woman. >> so one of the ways that you can do it obviously, one of the only way that is legislatively
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procedurally possible, is by doing away with the filibuster on this issue. a president biden, told my colleague anderson cooper that he would be okay to eliminate the filibuster to pass voting rights and maybe more. would you support the elimination of the filibuster in order to pass federal legislation for abortion rights? >> right now, given the current composition of the senate, the votes are not there. >> here's the thing, i understand what you are asking the question for, but the reality of it is, we do not really get to answer that in terms of whether it happens or not, if we do not have the numbers in the senate. again, that is why i keep coming back to the importance of an election that is only 130 odd days away, because it really does matter, i sit as the vice president for the president of the senate, i was in the senate for four years representing the state of california, and if you do not have the votes, you can't move
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anything, we have seen countless examples of that sadly. this senate in the current composition would not pass voting rights legislation. i sat in the chair when the women's health act was on the floor for a vote, we did not have the votes to get it passed. on the issue of roe, of reproductive care, the numbers are not there. >> the significance of that. as the vice president, and you have a position, i know you have a vote, but you have a position on whether the filibuster should be eliminated? >> i think the president has spoken on that issue. >> he kind of left the door open, is this where he was leaving the door open to? >> i think that he has been clear about where we stand on this issue of reproductive health and with the president and our administration have within our toolkit to do. and so so far, that is what we have been pursuing. >> we were a senator when justices gorsuch and kavanaugh
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testified about many issues, including obviously roe and at a confirmation hearing. now just discourse the says that it has been reaffirmed many times, kavanaugh called it precedent on precedent. at that particular hearing you were there. some senators say that they intentionally misled the public and the congress. what do you think? >> i never believed them, i didn't believe them. that is why i voted against them. >> i want to ask you about the economy, there is a lot of anxiety about the economy, peoples wallets are really being hurt right now gas prices, as you well know are still near about $5 a gallon, the president said that he wanted a gas tax holiday, does not seem like that's going anywhere in congress, where else is in your tool box, is there anything else that you can do to help bring down the cost of gas? >> first of all, let's just say
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that this is a very real issue. and we have to do something about it. it is one of our highest priorities as in the administration. so there is the piece that is about gas and bring down the cost of gas which in large part has exploded because of putin's war in ukraine. the president is in europe right now, talking as he has been to bring our allies and partners together so that we can have a common defense around what we believe to be democratic principles around sovereignty and territorial integrity but there are other things that we need to do. so for example, bringing down the cost of prescription drugs. we are fighting to say something that insulin should cost no more than $35 a month. we are fighting to say that we should have affordable childcare so that families should not pay more than 7% of their income in childcare. >> but you have been fighting for that since day one. >> and we are going to keep fighting for that. but now inflation is really high. are you concerned about a
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recession? the administration said that they weren't that worried about inflation and then that changed. i think there can be no higher priority than what we have been clear is our highest priority, which is bringing down the costs and the prices as much as we possibly can, we will stay focused on that. >> i just want to ask you a quick word on january six, you are a prosecutor by training and by lots of experience. based on the evidence presented so far in the january six hearings, would you bring criminal charges against the former president donald trump? >> as a former prosecutor, i never comment on another prosecutor's case. >> i understand that, the former vice president mike pence, has your opinion of him changed? well i think that he did his job that day. i commend him for that, because clearly it was under extraordinary circumstances
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that he should not have had to face and i commend him for having the courage to do his job. >> last question, i know that we are out of time. your friend, the congressman jim clyburn said last week that if president biden does not seek reelection, you would be first on his list in 2024. have you talked to president biden about reelection and would do you say to congressman clyburn? >> joe biden is running for reelection and i will be his ticket mate. >> full stop? >> full stop. that's a madam >> vice president, thank you. >> dana bash joins us now from washington. i know that she elaborated on some of the options that the white house may be pursuing, but realistically, what can the administration do at this point? >> but they can do by executive axon anderson is pretty limited, because the consequences that you have been talking about, they are so vast, so complicated with the patchwork of laws now that row is gone. they are exploring a host of
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ideas. making sure that medication abortion, financial health the shoes for women who need to travel. , out of state ones that ban abortion. they are also talking about authorizing the department of justice to challenge state laws. those laws that make it a crime to assist someone with getting an abortion across state lines and now they have not decided what they will do because they do not yet know what they can do with that congressional approval. >> what about the social economic impact of the ruling, what did the vice president say about that, is there anything that the administration is signaling to women who are worried about the financial ramifications? >> it is huge. the vice president acknowledged what is the reality, which is those who have the means to leave who want an abortion, and they live in states where it is illegal, they have the means to leave, get it done.
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then they will. those who do not have the means we'll have a very, very, different experience. my answer the question about that, is pushing back against republicans who have pushed large, or federal financial help from the child tax credit. but the reality is, anderson, that a lot of the people who need and decide that they need and want abortions but can't afford it are going to be relying on help from, again, a patchwork of groups, likely not necessarily the federal government or the state government, probably outside groups. >> dana bash, appreciate it, thanks. coming up, latest on an amtrak train derailment. including number of dead and injuries. reporters just arrived on the scene. we'll bring you that live next. r under budget too! and i get seven days to love it or my money back...
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a terrifying scene in missouri, seven cars derailed after what authorities are saying was an uncontrolled crossing, three dead, including the person in the dump truck. alex field joins us with the latest. i know you've just arrived at the scene.
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what have you been seeing? >> reporter: it's an incredibly rural part of missouri, farmland as far as you can see. then stunning sight past the cornfields, amtrak train, seven cars flipped on their side. there were some 243 passengers according to amtrak on board, all of them traveling from l.a. toward chicago when the crash happened. the train colliding with a dump truck. you can still see the crumpled remains of that dump truck just off the tracks here. investigators who have been on the scene since the crash happened say it did happen at an uncontrolled crossing, that's a crossing that doesn't have any warning lights or those electric arms that so many people are used to seeing at railroad crossings. this is, however, a pretty common type of crossing in the area. the national transportation safety board points out there is a stop sign at the crossing. it's not yet clear what the cause is, but anderson, federal authorities sending a team out
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here. 16 investigators will arrive by morning. we know already they'll be looking at all aspects of the collision. but they are interested in speed data along the route, the data recorder and video from the crash. >> what do we know about some of the passengers on board? >> reporter: three people killed, one was the dump truck driver. two were people on board the train. dozens of people were injured, caught off guard. of course, when the train went careening off the tracks. at least 18 people taken to area hospitals to be treated. and we're told, anderson, that the rest of the passengers were taken to a nearby hospital, where they'll make plans for the rest of their journey. >> appreciate it. we'll be right back. x is differ. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. ...free your gut. and your mood will follow.
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we started the hour with the surprise announcement from the january 6 committee today. that's where we end. the committee will be holding a new hearing on capitol hill to quote, present recently obtained evidence and receive testimony. it's unclear what the evidence is and who's going to testify. members were supposed to take a two-week break. instead, they'll gather for their sixth public hearing at 1:00 p.m. eastern time tomorrow. cnn special coverage starts at noon eastern. we'll bring you a special two-hour "360" tomorrow night. coanchored with jake tapper. the news continues now. let's hand it over to sara sidner and "cnn tonight." >> i am sara sidner and this is "cnn tonight." something very unexpected is