biden administration, human smuggling continuing to be an ongoing and urgent issue. in the last 24 hours, there have been three migrant smuggling cases in texas resulting in the death of at least six migrants. >> thank you very much for that and thank you very much for joining us tonight. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. we begin with the effort to discredit cassidy hutchinson's testimony before the house january 6 select committee and effort to destroy the credibility of a 26-year-old woman who had the courage to do what the former white house counsel and president's own chief of staff do not have to courage to do. two days after telling the committee hathat the former president of the united states sent a mob of people some of who he knew to be armed to the capitol, she is being attacked by the president and his defenders. men like jim jordan whose republican members are attacking

her testimony. he does not have the courage she showed and is refusing to tell the committee what he knows. men like mark meadows who are openly defying the subpoena to testify and avoiding us as well. we'd love to talk to him not under oath, but he's shown no willingness to even face questions from reporters. house minority leader mccarthy is seeking to cast doubt on miss hutchinson's testimony and the work of the committee. >> this is just the continuation. they're obsessed with trump and this is all they want to do, but this here say would never be allowed in the court of law. >> we should point out, nothing would be here say if mr. meadows or pat cipollone would testify under oath. all they need to do is tell the truth. say what they said. then everything would be clear. hutchinson is also being attacked be i the former president himself. here's some of what he told news max yesterday for an interview that aired today. >> this lady yesterday, there's something wrong with her? is there something wrong?

the woman is living in fantasy land. she's a social climber if you call it social. she's got serious problems. mental problems. but for this girl to sit there and just, i think just make up -- and again, i hardly know who she is. >> this girl, he says, about a highly regarded 26-year-old republican woman who loyally served as the principle aide to his own chief of staff, mark meadows, claiming she has mental problems. i would say he was stooping that low, but he wasn't stooping at all. he is just that low. so are a number of people in his orbit. people are telling cnn that she was contacted by someone attempting to influence her testimony. in her closing remarks tuesday, liz cheney said two witness told the committee connected to the former president's world who might have been trying to influence them. sources say miss hutchinson is one of those witnesses.

as for questions how at least some republicans are feeling now about the former president, listen to what congresswoman cheney said last night at the reagan presidential library in southern california and listen to the reaction she got. >> republicans cannot both be loyal to donald trump and loyal to the constitution. at this moment -- >> joining us now, maggie haberman. what is your sense of how the former president, is he worried or his allies worried about what cassidy hutchinson has testified to? >> during her testimony, there was a lot of anxiety. since her testimony, there's less because of these discrediting efforts that you are seeing. she was pretty clear on the most explosive thing, which was the secret service car incident that she was talking about something she didn't know firsthand. a lot of what she has said in

that hearing has been stood up in other ways. the most important part of the car story is that trump wanted to go to the capitol. >> and he knew people were armed. >> and that he was aware that people were armed and he wanted the magnetometers taken down. that part, i don't know if there's been corroboration or if it's been discredited. i think there's been a very traditional trump effort to try to knock down somebody saying something about him. his remarks about hutchinson or what he's said about a number of people. >> that's my next question to you. it's remarkable the consistentsy he has in his attacks on anybody he suddenly feels has betrayed him, particularly women. it's always, you know, demeaning them in some form or another often with mental instability. >> and that he hardly knows them. >> hardly know them, of course. >> and to be clear, not sure how well he knew cassidy hutchinson. that's not the point. the point is she was in many,

many meetings with mark meadows, sometimes alexander mark meadows' proxy. i spoke with pete king today. he said cassidy hutchinson was his point person during covid. that's how frequently he was dealing with her in his office. so she was in a position of actua actually doing real work. he was close to mccarthy so it's striking to hear him say that because he knows her. >> according to her, he called her while president trump was on stage on january 6th at the ellipse and accused her of lying to him about the president going to the capitol. >> that's right. mccarthy as you said is another one of the republicans who has walked away from this committee so there's no way of knowing what his response to that would be, but he was certainly someone, one of the oddities around cassidy hutchinson just as somebody surviving in that world, she was close to mark meadows and kevin mccarthy, two people who don't care for each other. >> there's new "l.a. times"

reporting that mark meadows brought a fraud allegation to bill barr a tthe day after the 0 election questioning the results. is that significant? >> what's significant is the actual allegation he was bringing to the attorney general was if i read the story correctly, was a tweet by tom fitten of judicial watch. something he was pulling off twitter. that was foreshadowing what we saw mark meadows doing over many weeks between november 3rd and january 6th, which was passing along internet rumors or pieces of gossip and running down cabinet members. that was not what you would expect a chief of staff to be doing. >> it's amazing how m.i.a. mark meadows is now in all of this. we know now that the trump superpac gave i think it was a million dollars to an organization which mark meadows is now a senior member of. and that was given soon after i think the january 6th committee

started or before, when it was named. where is mark meadows? >> that donation has raised a lot of eyebrows, but what mark meadows is trying no to cooperate where the committee after basically providing the committee a roadmap. the hundreds of text messages he turned over to the committee are not all the text messages that he has as we understand it to be, but it's a huge volume that allowed them to really understand basically week by week and in some cases, day by day and minute by minute, what was happen nging in the days af november 3rd and the days after january 6th. they would have a much harder task without that. >> thanks very much. here to talk more about cassidy hutchinson is a witness in the ongoing attempt now to attack her including from the former president. jeffrey toobin and denver wriggleman. congressman, i want to get to the next steps of the committee in a moment, but you heard cheney speak strongly last

night. i want to play another moment from her speech. >> at this moment, we are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before. and that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional republic. >> you were working with her on this committee. she's obviously not backing down despite the cost to herself politically. >> well, i tell you, when you're talking about liz and what she said about the constitution. when you're talking about cassidy, these individuals, it's amazing to me that they're leaning forward so far to make sure the truth and facts get out there. it was interesting listening to maggie when she talked about the meadows text messages being a roadmap. it was like a qanon chat room. the attacks against cassidy, against liz and other republicans, all sort of follow the same formula. that's utilizing propaganda out into the the far right maga centers of gravity where the communication lines to just sort

of drag these people across the internet and across social media and try to discredit them. i got to tell you, seeing this, this is very, very indicative of what happened to me and what happened to a lot of individuals that spoke out in a facts based way but when you're going against hysterical individuals that are fact challenged, it's very difficult to sort of influence them that the facts are the facts and listening to liz and then seeing what happened with cassidy, everything like that, it's really bothersome to somebody like me who's went through it. >> it's also worth noticing that the criticism of cassidy is completely unspecific. it's like she's crazy. she's a liar. she's a leaker. a social climber, but no specific allegation that she is specifically lying about anything because as far as i'm aware, there is no specific evidence that she lied about anything. >> to maggie's point about the big issues of the president knew the people in the crowd were armed, wanted the magnetometers

gone and wanted to go to the capitol himself, that's not being challenged by these people. >> except that she's being challenged in general and those are incredibly damaging statements that she made and the only people who could conceivably refute them are not talking at all and they're especially not talking under oath. >> but they're the people who actually said these things and that cassidy hutchinson just repeating because she happened to overhear it. jeff, i want to ask you though about the, what sources say to cnn that hutchinson was one of the witnesses who received some sort of attempt to influence her testimony. i want to play a clip from the former white house spokeswoman on new day this morning. >> cassidy came to me and said there's more i want to share with a committee. i put her in touch with congresswoman cheney. she got a new lawyer and that's

how this testimony came about. >> her former lawyer was a lawyer the chief ethics lawyer at the white house. what does it say to you she felt she needs to change lawyers? >> this is a classic thing that happens in the investigation of any large, any substantial organization. whether it's a company under investigation for smfraud or a mafia family. the first sign that someone is starting to break ranks is that they get a lawyer who's outside the circle of confidence and she was right to get her an independent lawyer because that's when she started filling out her story. >> vice chair cheney ended miss hutchinson's hearing showing statements provided by witnesses, again, one of which sources say was miss hutchinson herself that may show attempts to influence testimony. you spoke about the communications, text messages, e-mail to which the committee

has access. do you think that's going to be a fecsocus of the committee or potentially department of justice? >> i think it should be. when you're talking about intimidating witnesses, it's pretty interesting. i remember there's a lot of members right now who don't believe one thing about stop the steal yet there's no way they're going to push back against that because there's a couple of things that's going to happen to them. one, they're going lose their money and fund raising. their influence, power, and could lose an election. when you talk about text messages being sent to cassidy, it's like here's a deal you can't refuse. you're going get the envelope and money, a lucrative position, we're going to try destroy you. just do the right thing. you see the people going after her, look at where they work. at the american first institute?

cpi? working for turning point? as you look at the individuals attacking her yonline, this is all about financial collaborators making sure their money lines are working and making sure they protect the president because that's how they make a paycheck. this is all about follow the money. i love listening to you and mr. toobin talk about this, but for me, it's pretty simple in the political world. they're telling her if you buck up, you're going to get paid. if not, you're going to get attacked. i'm glad the committee is taking a look at. >> no one wants to follow that model because he ended up with his hand stabbed and sleeping with the fishes. >> it's very hard to make these witness intimidation cases unless people are stupid enough to send texts or e-mails with the threats in them. if it's based on conversation, it's a hard case to make.

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favorite for the former president. barbara and olivia troy, who worked in the administration with cassidy hutchinson serving as mike pence's counterterrorism adviser. >> congresswoman, as you watch the reaction to cassidy hutchinson's testimony from the former president and his inner circle, what does it tell you about how they view former saf staffers, particularly women who are brave enough to testify in public? >> well, i usually can't get through some of the ridiculous interviews donald trump does. such a sore loser, but the little i saw of it made clear they were frightened by what cassidy hutchinson did. i think she was a poised, accomplished young woman who came forward 26 years old and did what men, boys, frankly, a lot of these guys working in the trump white house, you know, twice and three times her age were afraid to do. so i think she was impressive. i think this entire effort by the committee has been

impressive and i think liz cheney in particular with showing us that courage is contagious. whether it's people like olivia troy who's with us tonight or cassidy or liz cheney out there being i think the margaret chase smith of our generation and the misogyny of the trump world is not going to be received well. >> it's women like you, cassidy, aly alyssa who had the courage and it's mostly men who have chosen to remain silent. >> it's completely shameful and the sad part is that someone like cassidy, she was critical to the operation in the west wing. she was mark meadows right hand person. we worked closely with her and it's sad because here she is standing on her own and she's being disparaged and you have a former president of the united states demeaning women very

publicly and talking about her mental health. i saw that clip. it was disgusting an appall and yet where are the men in this whole scenario? they could be taking a stand as well and they continue to hide or they make comments, anonymous comments behind closed doors or statements but they won't come forward and testify publicly and they won't go on the record to say things. >> congresswoman, you mentioned misogyny and i think it's important to talk about. we heard the former president refer to cassidy hutchinson quote as this girl. attacked her claiming she has mental problems. i mean, how much do you see misogyny as an underlying theme here? >> oh, well that's always, it's been an underlying theme with donald trump. if you had a man and a woman say the same thing, he would particularly go after a woman with relish much more. if it was a minority woman, he'd do it even more. this is how he has operated. so i think it's petty and silly. i think that's why you're seeing more and more people are just looking, you know, even if they don't want to admit, you know,

we don't like trump, they're looking away. they realize this is a guy who's petty and focused on himself and selfish. why literally the capitol was under siege and being attacked, while cassidy hutchinson is going around the white house saying please, grown ups here, do something, do something, donald trump is doing nothing. mark meadows is scrolling through his phone and you know, she has to push people, figure out how can i get them to do something. we know ivanka trump didn't i guess sometimes she came forward, but listen, in life, you want to be a liz cheney, not an elise. a cassidy hutchinson, not ivanka trump. these women who at this difficult time when somebody needs to stand up for democracy, she's doing this and it's actually i think easier to do the right thing and i think she will find that out and i think she will inspire other young women to realize public service is a great thing to be involved in and we don't need to have the kind of ridiculous boys that we

had during the trump administration. a lot of these guys have young daughters or kids cassidy's age and she should be ashamed they're making her carry the cross when they should be doing it themselves. >> you worked in the administration. how were women, especially junior staffers viewed, although frankly, cassidy hutchinson, you know, by her age, you would say she was a junior staffer, but obviously she had tremendous responsibility and was a point person for the chief of staff. but how were women viewed, treated by not only the former president, but the senior staff in general? >> well, you know, the president was known for making comments and it was known that he would comment on your looks or outfits. he would do this openly in meeting. it was just that type of environment. that's who donald trump is. and that carried forth i think in the way, the behavior that surrounded us. but i will say this. these staffers, more junior

staffers, although she was senior considering the access she had, they worked hard. they were a critical part of the operation and making the trains run and that's what people forget. people try to, you know, i saw donald trump's tweet earlier, donald trump jr.'s tweet and he's calling her the coffee girl. okay, well say she was the coffee girl. but the coffee girl and the staff, they hear all. i was a young staffer in my 20s. you sit in all the meetings and you hear it all and she witnessed it. that doesn't take away the fact she heard it and she was willing to come forward and testify truthfully. i think they're scrambling, reaching for whatever they can, but the truth they're not deflecting the actual facts of what happened here. so i think it's unfortunate anytime that somebody tells the truth, especially when they call us names or call us liars or they say they never met us. that seems to be the trend, right? who? i don't know her.

>> for donald trump jr. to disparage miss hutchinson as the coffee girl, you know, not everybody has a father who runs a corporation that you can get a job for on, job with even though you have no qualifications, which donny trump jr. doesn't have. so for him to be disparaging anybody who has worked hard and gotten gotten themselves to a position of tremendous respect is sad at the least. sorry, congresswoman. >> look who's not talking. you're not getting, remember elise was going to be leading the charge in these hearings and defending donald trump. she's nowhere to be found. >> appreciate it. thank you. just ahead, tonight after an 18-month absence the online poster known as q is back and naming cassidy hutchinson, perhaps not coincidentally. we'll discuss the dangers the

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movement. after 18 months of silence, the q count is back and on wednesday, it aimed its conspiracies towards hutchinson. it's really too stupid to even show the posts of this q person, but they contain numerous cryptic questions and ended with asking who is cassidy hutchinson and trust the plan. the q stuff would be funny if it didn't have real world consequences. the fbi says it's arrested more than 20 people involved in capitol riots who said they followed qanon. one of the most famous, jacob, who was seen in a headress, he's been sentenced to 41 months in prison. another was sentenced to eight years following an armed standoff near the hoover dam. that guy. he he was demanding release of hillary clinton's e-mails, which is a popular qanon conspiracy. i'm joined by donny sullivan and

andrew mccabe, former fbi director. what does it mean that now the q cou account is back up and running? >> i think among the polite company here in washington, in washington, d.c. and here in new york city, the conventional wisdom would say we should ignore it. it is objectively dumb, but what happened last time when folks weren't talking about that. half the country was then wondering why did a ton of people wearing q -- show up and storm the capitol. >> and mike flynn was selling it. >> it's part of a huge grift. look, there is obviously the crazy qanon believes when it cameras to kabals -- >> drinking blood. >> but it's part of just a tapestry, a range of conspirator y al parts that the republican party believe. from lies about the election up

to qanon. i think what we're going to see is this account, this phantom poster online, could actually play a role in upcoming republican primaries and could cause a bit of chaos in the midterms as well when it comes to the republican side. >> it seems interesting that the former president is you know, coming under serious criticism after cassidy hutchinson's testimony. the q account pops back up, raising questions about cassidy hutchinson. >> yeah, q had not posted since december of 2020 so right after trump won the election. remember, q was promising -- >> lost the election. >> said he won the election. >> that is going the drive the qanon people crazy. >> yes, right there. you will now be the subject as if you haven't been already. >> but has not posted since december of 2020. came back a few hours after the roe decision and like we saw mention cassidy hutchinson by name. called her out and what we have seen in the past when q calls

out someone, they become harassed as you know yourself. >> i spoke with qanon followers for a special report we did last year. listen to this guy. >> did you at the time believe that democrat, high level democrats and celebrities were worship worshipping satan, drinking the blood of children? >> anderson, i thought you did that and i would like to apologize for that right now. >> was it something about me that made you think that? >> q specifically mentioned you and mentioned you very early on. he mentioned you by name. >> andrew, what is the significance of q mentioning hutchinson and what could be you think real world consequences? >> sure, as you and donie have already summarized, there is no significance to the post beyond the fact he included her name specifically. it's not because he said

anything logical or factual. it's just the existence of her name in that post turns her into a target for people who ascribe to these believes. as you know, the posts are deliberately vague. they're inane. they just raise questions that cannot possibly be answered. and then to throw her name into that conspiratorial milieu is very damaging to her in terms of the attention it will bring who knows which of the qanon conspiracies. >> i think part of the appeal for people who follow this stuff is it gives them a focus to you know, project things on this. it gives them like this treasure hunt of then they just go online and start to imagine stuff about miss hutchinson or whomever it is and they go down all these rabbit holes and invent all this stuff and it becomes this, it's

like a just this ball rolling that more and more people get in on and believe they're part of some sort of investigation that is based on complete bs. >> it's a cave. it's a cave of conspiracies that people project their anger, they project their grievances into and they extract from it whatever they want. and so if you toss this young woman's name into that conversation, into that froth, you run the risk that someone who is following these things and who's projecting their own rage and their dissatisfaction about whatever it is in life they're mad about is going to attach her to that and one of those people, maybe more than one, might decide to take the matter into their own hands and resort to an act of violence in the exact same way that the young man from north carolina did about the nonsense around comet ping-pong pizza, the pizza restaurant here in washington,

d.c. when he had been digesting this material, got in his car, drove to d.c. on a sunday with an ar-15 intending to shoot up the place. >> believing there were kids being held in the basement. some sort of crazy conspiracy theory. appreciate it. coming up, history being made at the supreme court today but both because of the member, also because of the decision curbing the powers of the epa and possibly more government agencies. the fallout when we return. tece across all your clouds... it's easier to do more innovative things. [whistling]

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historic day today. ketanji brown jackson was sworn in. president biden was overseas during the ceremony, but said in a statement her historic swearing in represents a profound step forward. a significant blow to the environmental protection agency and efforts to show climate change. in a 6-3 decision, the conservatives curbed the power of the epa to broadly regulate greenhouse gases. the court cited a legal doctrine. critics are outraged not only because of what it means for the fight against climate change, but the impact it may have on the government's ability to regulate other areas. joining us again, jeffrey toobin, a former federal prosecutor. what does it mean for federal government's efforts on climate change?

>> going to be a lot harder. the doctrine here is that conservatives have been saying for years the administrative ag agencies are too powerful. they've been arguing that when congress passes a law, all the agencies can do is what's in the law. they can't use the law as an invitation to use their expertise and regulate the way they have for traditionally for generations. it's all designed to limit the power of the administrative agencies and it's especially true with the environment because you can't just regulate the environment without detailed regulations and that's what was struck down today. that idea. >> in her dissent, justice kagan said that the supreme court quote doesn't have a clue about how to address climate change which may be true, but is that really the court's job to address climate change? i mean, if they view the law just reading the law even if it's bad for the planet, isn't

their job just to care about the law? >> yeah, but their view of the law is that agencies have to be, they can only do what the law says. they can't extend the law. they can't interpret the law. that's the big issue is do the regulatory agencies have the ability to interpret law in order to pass regulations. if they can't interpret the law, they can't do anything and that's the point and that's why you know, the coal companies and the oil companies have been so active in funding these supreme court fights because they're the big beneficiaries of this decision. >> ketanji brown jackson becoming a justice of the supreme court, does that change things at all? >> you know, it changes things because america's a different place because an african american woman has now been on the supreme court for the first time. in terms of the results that come out of the court, almost certainly not.

presumably her record will be very similar to breyer for whom she clerked. she was appointed by a democratic president. but look at these decisions on guns. on abortion. on the environment here. all of them 6-3. all of them with elena kagan, sonia sotomayor and breyer. >> this was a huge season in terms of rulings. is this going to be every season now? >> you know, anderson, i've been covering the court for 25 years. i knew intellectually this was going to happen, but to see it unfold this way is so extraordinary and the influence is so tremendous and the answer is yes as far as i can tell. it is going to be like this. and we've even seen the cases lining up for next year. getting rid of affirmative action all together. changing electoral law so state legislatures can do whatever the hell they want. all of this is teeing up for the conservatives to keep changing constitutional law. as they did this year. >> thank you. coming up, judges in two states

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and on the go to block millions of threats. only from us... xfinity. judges in florida and kentucky took action today after the roe v. wade reversal last week. florida judge will issue a temporary injunction on a state law that will prevent abortions after 15 weeks and abortions can resume for now on the state's trigger law if roe is overturned. before leaving madrid, president biden called for this action on capitol hill. >> i believe we have to codify roe v. wade in the law and the way to do that is to make sure the congress votes to do that and if the filibuster gets in

the way just like voting rights, it should be, we provide an exception for this, the -- require an exception to the filibuster for this action. >> president biden today but right now, the senate doesn't have the 60 votes needed to codify roe v. wade. all the uncertainty isn't just tied to abortion. there are those who go through fertility treatments. those families and their doctors worry they could be the next target. more on that now from dr. walker. >> always a way. always wanting to see what's going on. >> for carly gilbert, her twins are a gift from god and science. >> you wanted a family. how badly did you want it? >> so bad. >> a nearly four-year long struggle with infertility led this hospice nurse to in vitro. the embryo is then planted into

a woman's uterus. >> i saw how hard it is for families to be started. i don't take my girls for granted whatsoever. >> she says it was a dark and lonely journey after three failed embryo transfer, she began to lose hope. >> got on meditation because i became so depressed i couldn't have what other people were having. >> but she got what she wanted from a healthy embryo transfer. even with her dreams realized, gilbert has a new worry, triggering abortion bans or restrictions in multiple states including mississippi, gilbert's home state, which is moving to ban abortions in nearly all cases. she wonders what all this means for her frozen embryos in storage in texas when its new law stating life begins at fertilization takes effect. >> is that going to affect that? >> reporter: dr. preston perry

is gilbert's reproductive endocrinologist. he says his patients are petrified. >> whether they can do ivf, whether somebody can regulate, whether they can get their embryos, how they will be able to choose embryos before transferring. >> reporter: dr. perry worries about the impact on his career. >> basically doctors could be charged with murder if an embryo fails to develop. >> reporter: they're valid concerns says this professor. she expects some states to pass fetal personhood laws giving legal rights of people to an embryo in the wake of a supreme court ruling. destroying an embryo, she warns, could be considered homicide. >> if we end up in a place where there are states that define an embryo as potential life and there's restrictions on discarding them, then you would have to actually implant them in

order to not, you know, quote, kill them. >> reporter: one round of ivf could result in multiple embryos which could be frozen. some embryos that are not viable or are genetically abnormal are discarded to increase the chances of pregnancy. fetal personhood laws will potentially determine now embryos are used. >> we're going to see this kind of fertility tourette where people are going to try to move the embryos because of this uncertainty and fear that they wouldn't have control of what to do with their embryos, that they would have to implant them or that they couldn't discard them. >> reporter: for dr. perry, meeting his patients' babies, like gilbert's twins for the first time, is the best part of the job. he and gilbert hope the scientific process of building families will not be sacrificed as the battle rages on. >> my job is bringing kids into this world. that's the most pro-life type of

setting that you can imagine. it is really scary to see how far this pendulum may swing. we don't know when it will stop. >> i just feel like everybody should have the opportunity to be able to start their families and live the dream that we all dream to be. >> reporter: now, anderson, some legal experts say that if a person has an embryo in storage in a state that has already banned abortion or has severely restricted it or is in a state that is likely to do so, like here in georgia, they advise that these people move their embryos to a state that has safe haven laws like california, new york, connecticut, oregon, that have strengthened abortion protections. ivf is currently legal in all 50 states and it's unlikely according to many legal experts

i spoke with that there will be an immediate effect on the system. >> thank you. up next, after six weeks on the run, authorities have finally found the woman accused of killing an elite cyclist. the details of where she was hiding and how they found her is next. [whistling]

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after 43 days on the run, authorities finally captured kaitlin armstrong in costa rica. you may recall she's accuse of shooting to death anna moriah

wilson in texas. it could have been because wilson previously dated armstrong's boyfriend. the big break came when they said she used a fraudulent passport to board a flight on may 18th. now she's finally in custody. randi kaye has been on the story from the start. what have you learned about how they caught her? >> reporter: well, anderson, the u.s. marshals knew that kaitlin armstrong was at newark airport one week after that murder. they just didn't know if she had boarded a flight. now they know she flew from newark airport to san jose, costa rica. they were told she had been using someone else's passport, someone i'm told by the u.s. marshals that she resembles. so, she looked like the person in that passport, and she was passing herself off as that person. so, once they knew that, i'm told with the help of homeland security, they went through the passenger list of newark airport on that day. they were able to pinpoint that

person's name, the rightful owner of that passport. they saw that a ticket had been bought, a one-way ticket to san jose, costa rica, in that person's name. they zeroed in on the gate that that flight left from at newark airport, and they were able to see, according to my contact at the u.s. marshal's office, they saw kaitlin armstrong boarding that flight for costa rica. they then reached out to the costa rican authorities, who then were able to locate her at a hostile. they arrested her there. she was picked up on an immigration violation for using a fraudulent passport. she's going to be extradited back to the united states. she'll face that murder charge in austin, texas, which occurred on may 18th. and on top of that, anderson, she'll face a federal charge for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. >> just very quickly, did the person whose passport she was using know about it? >> reporter: that's what's unclear. the marshals couldn't say. she just said she resembled that

person. it's unclear how she got that passport or if they knew. she did change her appearance as well, anderson. short hair instead of the long, blonde hair she had. the news continues. i want to hand it over to sara i want to hand it over to sara sidner and "cnn tonight." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com thank you. and this is "cnn tonight." new information is coming to light pertaining to a star witness for the january 6th committee. did donald trump's inner circle try to keep cassidy hutchinson from speaking the truth about what she knows, and is that a crime? according to three cnn sources t former aide to then white house chief of staff mark meadows told the panel she was contacted by someone in the trump camp attempting to influence her testimony. remember those messages vice chair liz cheney read aloud at tuesday's hearing alluding to possible witness intimidation. the gop congresswoman didn't name names but she relayed accounts o