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kids are. terrible, terrible indeed. scott mclain in kyiv for us, thank you very much and, to our viewers, thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room," i'll be back in one hour filling in for anderson cooper at 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. until then, thank you very much for watching. erin burnett starts right now. "outfront" next, trump's january 6th outburst, two secret service staffers corroborating parts of cassidy hutchinson's damning testimony, plus, on trial, brittney griner appearing in russian courtroom as prosecutors lay out their case against her. any chance of a fair trial? and it may be one of the toughest fights of a political career, republican congresswoman liz cheney facing off against her trump-backed challenger and her role on the january 6th committee front and center. let's go "outfront."
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good evening, i'm kate bolduan in for erin burnett, "outfront" tonight, trump's tyrade, seeming to back up part of cassidy cassidy hutchinson's testimony, two secret service staffers saying more than a year, stories have been circulating about trump's behavior before and on january 6th, including how an angry donald trump demanded to go to the capitol with supporters after his speech at the white house and when the secret service said no and trump didn't get his way, said to have berated his security detail, saying something similar to, i'm the effing president of the united states, you can't tell me what to do, which aligns with what hutchinson said under oath that she was told. >> the president said something to the effect of, i'm the effing president, take me to the capitol now, to which bobby responded, sir, we have to go
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back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engel and when recounted this story to me, motioned towards his clavicles. >> and was mr. engel in the room when mr. ornato told you this story? >> he was. >> did mr. engel correct or disagree with any part of story? >> mr. engel did not correct or disagree with any part of the story. >> did mr. engel or mr. ornato after that tell you that what mr. ornato said was untrue.
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>> neither mr. ornato or mr. engel told me ever that it was untrue. >> while neither source says they heard about trump trying to grab the steering wheel, they did say this. nobody said trump assaulted him, they said he tried to lunge over the seat. for what reason, they had no idea. we're also learning new details about the attempt to influence hutchinson's testimony, multiple sources telling cnn someone on behalf of mark meadows contacted hutchinson before testified and that is crucial because hutchinson was one of his top aides and we know now, the details presented in the hearing were directed towards hutchinson and what was the message? listen. >> this is a call received by one of our witnesses. quote, a person let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. he wants me to let you know he's thinking about you. he knows you're loyal and you're going to do the right thing when
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you go in for your deposition. >> hutchinson did do the right thing. she testified under oath, which everyone agrees takes courage. you can't say the same though for donald trump and allies who have now launched a smear campaign against her. manu raju is "outfront" live for us on capitol hill this evening. first, what can you tell us about this call to hutchinson that was allegedly done at behes of her former boss, mark meadows. >> we are learning the two episodes liz cheney described in vivid detail in the hearing about outreach to hutchinson that suggests potential witness intimidation, both of those did go to cassidy hutchinson. we are also learning this came from intermediary of mark meadows then white house chief of staff. in one of those messages that cheney read aloud, she said he knows you're loyal and you're going to do the right thing when
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you go in for your deposition. now we, our colleagues at cnn are told the person they're referring to there was meadows. meadows expected her to do, quote, the right thing. now, meadows' camp responded to this reporting saying there was never an attempt to intimidate hutchinson. they said, according to spokesperson, ben williams said no one from meadow's camp ever sought to intimidate or shake conversations with the committee but we do know the committee is still investigating this issue, they'd ask every witness who comes before them whether or not they had received any efforts to intimidate or their testimony in any way, do know the committee is thinking whether to refer these to justice department for potential prosecution so this is still a major issue they plan to investigate in the weeks ahead. >> still an open-ended question what's going to happen with this and also, manu, based on the new reporting about the secret service, what does this all mean
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for trump aide tony ornato who is apparently willing to testify and also disputing this testimony from hutchinson. >> yeah it's unclear exactly what ornato will say if he does agree to testify under oath, we've only heard from unnamed officials that he relayed this story to cassidy hutchinson describing this altercation that occurred on january 6th, but what the reporting does show is this is an issue that was discussed by law enforcement, by secret service in the aftermath of january 6th. it was well known that there was an angry donald trump who, apparently, wanted to go to the capitol and that is one of the key things that has not been disputed here is that donald trump wanted to go to the capitol on january 6th, the day, as he knew that his supporters were apparently armed that day, what cassidy hutchinson said in her testimony and one person that can corroborate a lot of these key details too, kate is
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pat cipollone, who has been subpoenaed by the committee we're told is willing to testify in some limited fashion, potentially behind the scenes and also warned about trump going to the capitol that it could open up to all sorts of potential criminal exposure. >> manu, thank you so much for that, "outfront" with me now, eli honig former u.s. district attorney for district of new york and former secret service agent, and pulitzer prize winning journalist who covered trump over 30 years. so you have these different services telling a similar account to what hutchinson testified to, how does this add to the picture? >> well, kate, on the narrow question of did donald trump lash out inside that suv, it really started out as a contest of creditability between cassidy hutchinson on one hand and tony ornato on the others, hutchinson testifying under oath i didn't see what happened, but trump
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reaching for the steering wheel in the suv. you had tony ornato not under oath and through spokes people saying nothing happened and she made that up under whole cloth. now we're learning another story, quite similar, not identical but quite similar to what cassidy hutchinson said is circulating under secret service and that is strong krcorroboratn for cassidy hutchinson, and that he pointed them to the capitol and desperately wanted to go to the capitol remain uncontested and strongly corroborated. >> and as someone who knows about the culture of the secret service yourself, if something like this did happen, how quickly would word travel within the agency? >> so listen, there's a saying inside the secret service that there are no secrets within the secret service and something as explosive as this would fly through the secret service
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circles pretty quickly but i think we need to take a quick step back and go, does this surprise anybody? we all know the president had the intent on january 6th to go to the u.s. capitol. once he was told, did anyone really expect that he wouldn't be angry? i mean so i think this is just confirming what everyone believes is that, you know, he was very angry on that day, that he did not go up and join his supporters, but the point we have to look at is why did he not go? why did the secret service say no? and the reason being is that they did a quick security assessment, could they bring the president up there? the determination was no. the threats were too elevated, the likelyhood was high that violence would erupt and the consequences were too great and that's why the secret service did not bring the president up to the capitol on that day. >> and because we all know that donald trump himself according to the testimony knew there were weapons in the crowd and also did nothing to try to help assist the law enforcement
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officers trying to protect the capitol at that exact time. david, another thing a secret service source is telling cnn tonight is that agents, i mean this is what jonathan is getting to, that agents often shared stories of trump's anger and saying it's not just plate that is trump would throw and let me play you what we're getting at, what that speaks to. >> there was ketchup dripping down ithe wall and a shattered porcelain plate on the floor. the valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's ap interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. he said something to the effect of, he's really ticked off about this. i would stay clear of him. >> i mean, as jonathan just put it, does it surprise anybody? but how does this track with the donald trump you have covered for so many years.
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>> donald has a volatile, childish temper that has no limits. and so this all fits perfectly, him throwing a plate that apparently had ketchup on it against a wall. absolutely tracks perfectly with his long history of this. there was one time when he had a fight with marla maples when she was not yet his wife at one of the atlantic city casinos and not only was the room trashed, the double door entry to the casino suite was off the hinges, suggesting she had tried to flee the room, but this is absolutely consistent with donald's lifelong behavior. >> you know, jonathan, all of this, i've been thinking of this over the past couple days but especially today with the new reporting coming out. does this put the secret service in a tough spot? especially if agents come testify? >> listen, this puts the secret service in a very uncomfortable spot. listen, they don't like to be in the spotlight whatsoever. their mission is protection and protection of, you know,
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governmental leaders. so anytime that the news story becomes about the agency or individual agents, it is very uncomfortable. but, they have to get ahead of this and i think they're actually doing a good job right now. they have stated that the agents who were in the limo at that day will testify under oath. so the issue of whether or not the president lunged and grabbed at the special agent in charge, that would be adjudicated very quickly and hopefully we can move beyond that, but there are still questions that remain as to why, you know, if the secret service knew that there was this environment, that individuals within the crowd had weapons and they were marching towards the capitol, i think we need to, you know, flesh out a little more as to what was the communication to the capitol police? because if we knew the threat environment was so destabilized that we couldn't bring the president, why weren't additional resources bolstered at the u.s. capitol prior to it being breached an hour or so later. >> important point, so people don't miss the forest for the
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trees with all the detail coming out here. great point, jonathan, and eli, multiple sources saying now that one of the people trying to influence cassidy hutchinson testimony did so in the form of her former boss mark meadows. laying out that for us. could that mean trouble for meadows? >> well, first of all, kate, in my prosecutorial view, those allegations made by cassidy hutchinson are absolutely across the line, i believe witness tampering. if your intent is to influence in any way the testimony, that can be witness tampering as well. now there's three parties here, there's cassidy hutchinson who received the communication, there's this intermediary, we don't know who it is and now reporting that they originated from mark meadows so intermediary clearly can be liable, and if you can prove they started with mark meadows, which is hardered to do because he's a step removed, he could be responsible legally as well.
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>> david, you don't know mark meadows but do know how donald trump operates and his pattern of behavior, often using intermediaries to intimidate or influence others, heard about others like michael cohen talked about this often. how has he been able to get away with this for so long, even aside from connecting him with the intimidation suggested here? >> well he's been remarkably successful in avoiding accountability, kate. donald uses lots of different strategies. when he was in business, would tear up his calendar at the end of the months, bragged, once, i don't use email because judges know that's really smart, you don't leave a record of wrong-doing. he often operates through intermediaries and often, as eli pointed out, not to prevent someone from testifying but to shape their testimony, to encourage them to frame it in a way that's helpful to him, and there are numerous
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well-documented cases to this. muller report cites 15 examples of witness tampering. we have a thorough record from the early 1990s when donald basically told one of his closest business associates, a major international cocaine smuggler, hey, listen, keep your mouth shut, pal, we'll take care of you and even though as a casino owner he's not supposed to deal with someone like that, after this guy got out of the very brief prison stint, donald was there to help him out. >> good to see you all, thank you very much. "outfront" for us next, two former white house staffers, questioning the creditability of secret service agent, tony ornado, plus, the fight to free wnba star brittney griner, what the state department is saying as we learn new details in russia's case against the basketball star. and the grinding war with russia, what the ukrainians are up against now. insurance, so you only pay for what you need. woah! look out!
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tonight, two former white house aides to president trump, questioning the creditability of tony ornato, the secret service agent who denies he told cassidy trump lunged over the seat to head toward the capitol to join the rioters. how crucial could the testimony be. >> said something to the effect
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of i'm the effing president, take me to the capitol now. >> cassidy hutchinson's story of trump lunging over secret service ages on january 6th got a swift denial from the man who said he told the tale so who is tony ornato? as a high ranking secret service agent, protected trump for years but given leave to an unusual and powerful role, assistant to the president and deputy chief of staff for operations. there, he oversaw thousands of employees and worked so closely with the president, that the washington post identified him as one of several people tied to the secret service facing criticism for appearing to embrace trump's political agenda. some colleagues also speaking up, former communications
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director for trump said she warned ornato of potential problems before this clash of protesters at the white house in 2020, only to have ornato deny the conversation ever occurred. >> he's someone i know to have been dishonest in the past. >> ornato also spoke about moving president mike pence from the capitol during the january 6th attack, spurring another colleague to tweet, tony ornato sure seems to deny conversations he's apparently had. those of us who work with tony know where his loyalties lie. for now, trump is defending ornato and his service. >> these are great people, they've devoted their lives to it. >> and blasting the hearing. >> and i think they were very embarrassed by it because it makes them sound terrible. >> but the january 6th committee which has spoken with ornato does not seem as impressed from one member. >> mr. ornato did not have as clear of memories from this period of time as i would say
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ms. hutchinson did. >> and from another, seems to be a major threat here. tony ornato likes to lie. of course cnn reached out to ornato for specific reply to all of this, what reeceived as a response to secret service that he is willing to sit under oath and answer questions about this. kate. >> will that happen. >> will the committee be able to question him. >> there are times, they say they'll be questioned and start dod dodging and it never happens. a lot of questions could be cleared up for donald trump if tony ornato came forward and did what hutchinson did, raise his hand, swear to tell the truth and do it, whether or not donald trump likes it. "outfront" next, wnba star brittney griner in a russian courtroom with her freedom and fate on the line, is the key to
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>> no higher priority, what tony blinken says tonight about efforts to bring brittney griner home, facing possibility of ten years in russian prison, the trial starts today in moscow, russian prosecutors laying out the possession against her, possession of seven grams of cannabis oil. fred pleitgen is "outfront" in mock y moscow tonight. >> reporter: britntney griner hand cuffed to the courtroom, read the charges of allegedly trying to smuggle drugs into russia. authorities saying griner is in strong spirits. >> she's a bit worried but she's a tough lady and i think she will manage.
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>> what do you think are the chances she will get out, that you get an acquittal? >> i will not commit. >> brittney griner detained at mock you don't airport february 17th, moscow officials declaring she was carrying cartridges with 7 grams of cannabis oil in them, a crime in russia that can carry a sentence up to ten years in a prison colony. u.s. considers britntney griner wrongfully detained, inside the courtroom, called on russia to release brittney griner immediately. >> wrongful detention is unacceptable wherever it occurs. the united states government at the very highest levels is working very hard to bring ms. griner as well as all wrongfully detained u.s. citizens safely home. >> reporter: brittney griner's trial starts as attetensions ben u.s. and russia reached a
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boiling point, not just over the invasion of ukraine, u.s. also demanding release of former marine paul wheelan, sentenced to 16 years in russian prison for espionage. u.s. called it politically motivated, and trussian court denies that. >> i cannot comment on the actions of the russian korcourt can only deal with the facts and that is that she was detained on possession of substances that contained drugs. >> led away hand cuffed again, as lawyers and u.s. authorities fight to bring the basketball star home as soon as possible. >> and fred joins me now, from moscow. so fred, this is expected to be a lengthy trial. so what comes next? >> reporter: yeah, first of all, you're absolutely right.
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it is expected to be a lengthy trial, unclear how many trial dates there are going to be but certainly could be quite a few more. what we have learned is that the next trial that is going to be on july 7th and if the prosecution wants to call addit additional witnesses, not clear how many, but just today, trial took about 2 1/2 hours, called two witnesses so that's a process that could take a while, also asked brittney griner whether the defense wants to call witnesses as well and defense won't tell me, not something he would divulge in public, but would say here in russia, not many defendants at the end get acquitted. >> that's for sure. thank you, fred, good to see you. "outfront" with me now, democratic congresswoman jackson lee, represents texas where brittney griner grew up and a vocal advocate to get griner free. thank you, congresswoman, i understand you've been in touch with britney's family, her wife is frustrated and understandably worried. how worried are you that griner is going to be sentenced in the
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end to ten years in a russian prison? >> kate, thanks for having me. first of all, let me, as i always do, have the nation and all of us offer our prayers and concerns for the family. and for the families of those who are wrongfully held around the world that are our citizens and should be released immediately. i'm very worried. first of all, it is correct that russia has no legal system. the small amount of drugs that they say she has is an allegation, we don't know whether it's true or not, and it's a very, very small amount. and in the united states, it would not even be considered any kind of crime. so we know this is a political detention, incarceration. this is punishment, and this is mr. putin making himself a pariah around the world for even doing this because she was
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picked up, if you will, one week after the olympics where, frankly, russia did not do well and was charged with doping. so this is showing a little bit of anger. she is a two-time olympian, world renoun basketball player and can you imagine she is given seven years of her life to a basketball team in russia so the question would be why is brittney griner held and for that reason, i believe it is political, that she is a pawn and that there is very little chances of her being acquitted. >> and there is also now speculation that the only way to get her back is through a prisoner swap and there are reports that russia might be willing to swap griner for a man named victor boot, an arms dealer dubbed the merchant of death who has been in a u.s. prison over ten years. do you think that is the only option to getting her home? >> well, i think the american people should understand, first of all, that i've always advocated that our state
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department should exert the powers of a sovereign nation when it comes to bringing any of their persons, united states citizens who are foreign prisoners, wherever they are. we have to realize, as well, what is the value that we get from maintaining individuals that have been at least a decade in our prisons that have been tried and convicted and that have made the point? this arms dealer we're speaking about was actually hunted down and arrested by us in thailand. that angers mr. putin because i think there's a personal relationship between the arms dealer and mr. putin. so i do think that a swap, a prison swap that would include this individual, that seems to have this relationship and a special concern by putin to be an individual that could actually bring both brittney griner and paul home. and that's important, because it is so important to have a sovereign nation exert its
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sovereignty. and russia, and russia's leadership and putin are really acting like the gustapos of world war ii that thought nothing of being cruel, inhumane, and without any desire to be part of the world family. and that is what happens when you take individuals and you treat them so cruelly, in a cage to be transported from where she is is not the way to handle any human being. and i think we need to do the swap as quickly as possible. >> i want to play for you some of cnn's exclusive interview with brittney griner's wife. let me play this. >> the most beneficial thing i've been told is that, you know, you meet with president biden. he has that power. he is the person, you know, that ultimately will make that decision for bg to come home so while everybody else tells me they care, i want him to tell me
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he cares. >> why do you think they haven't gotten a face to face with the president yet? >> well, i know that everyone has seen president biden as the chief comforter. there is no doubt of his passion, along with dr. jill and their compassion. i am advocating for a encounter, a conversation, a meeting with the griner family, and with her wife. i think it will be a tremendous step forward in saying to the nation what we believe about our prisoners, u.s. citizens that have been taken as prisoners. >> but if it's no higher priority, why hasn't it happened yet? >> well let me just say this, i'm not going to give up on it not happening. i believe that the president, if you will, is someone who hears
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our voices. he hears our voices and in hearing our voices, he is going to act. and by acting, we're going to see this occurring and i think there have been a lot of things that have happened as you well know from mass murders of children, from the supreme court going awry with decisions, the war in ukraine, but i'm not going to make any excuse, i'll just say the state department is working. they know the importance of their work, but also know the importance of president biden comforting these families, and i'm just going to personally ask the president of the united states to visit with or to call the griner family, call shirel, her wife, and ensure the family, along with the other hostages, paul's family, that this is very important. it happened with trevor reid's family, i know they're strongly supporting getting these prisoners home, getting britney home, getting paul home.
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trevor came down to a rally we had in houston and was loved by all and told how horrible the conditions were and so i believe that he will clearly listen to all of these voices and make sure that we, that he acts. i do believe that's going to happen. >> congresswoman shela jackson lee, thank you for coming in tonight. "outfront" for us next, as russia tightens grip on eastern ukraine, we're in the trenches with what ukrainian forces are facing right now. >> if, when the russians decide to move through and take this territory, it is unlikely these soldiers will ever see them up close. plus, republican congresswoman liz cheney with a message for voters as she fights to save her house seat. >> we are now facing a cult of personality and i won't be part of that.
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tonight, a series of missile attacks killing at least 21 people, including a 12-year-old boy in ukraine, another 40 people injured. the strikes, hitting a residential building and recreation center in the southern city of odesa, ukrainian president zelenskyy describes this as the latest example of what he calls russian terror. still, russia is on the verge of seizing control of another key city this evening. phil black is "outfront."
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>> reporter: these ukrainian fighters know it won't be long now. the russians are getting closer, firin fi firing heavy ammunitions into this dense forest today. vladimir shows us where much bigger rounds have fallen close to their camp, incoming fire booms steadily nearby. as he proudly shows us, the advance the antitank weapons provided by western allies. they were hugely effective earlier in the war, but they're not the weapons ukraine needs most for this fight in the east. you can hear, he says, every one of our heavy shots, they make 10 or 20. it's because we lack artillery. outgunned by the russians, out numbered too. of course they're coming, maxim says, and there are many more of them than us. the fight is positioned in this
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forest a short distance from russian lines, are all volunteers who signed up when the war started. for weeks, they've been waiting, ready to carry out one job -- to attack any russian convoys trying their luck at a nearby road. if, when, the russians decide to move through and take this territory, it is unlikely these soldiers will ever see them, not up close, they will just feel more of the same. heavy weapons, artillery, the rocket fire, the big heavy weapons russia was using to drive ukrainian forces back steadily, slowly, across this region. russia's big weapons don't just fall in the forest. slovyetsk, a key city in the donbas, now within easy range. here, russia artillery destroyed a local business. six people outside a supermarket were injured when cluster bombs dropped around them. bomblets also scattered around
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this apartment complex, killing a man and a pet, terrifying many more people. valentina says the explosions blue debris over her bed. every night she tries to block out the noise of war with a pillow. in bachmut, southeast of slovyetsk, explosions even greater in number and power, tearing apart peoples' homes as they huddle beneath them in basements. the russian advance is only a short drive from this road, almost every home still has someone living in it, almost every home has felt russian firepower but the people here, still reluctant to leave. marina feels she has nowhere to go, with the strain of staying is unbearable. she says, we don't have gas, we don't have power, we don't have water, but we only want the shooting to stop. in the donbas, russia's
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unmatched artillery is an unstoppable force. with no concern of civilian suffering. it is steadily overpowering ukraine's defenses. as russian forces advance, kate, more and more people find themselves living within range of that russian artillery. and the message to them, the increasingly urgent message, is get out now while you still can. because there is an increasing sense, a grinding incrediblity of just how unequal this fight is, that perhaps russia can be slowed down but its goal of seizing this whole region cannot be stopped . >> yeah, phil, thanks for being there. really appreciate it. "outfront" for us next, republican congresswoman liz cheney puts her legacy on the line as she fights for political survival. >> i will never violate my oath
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republican congresswoman liz cheney defending her record and fighting for political survival now as she faces a primary challenge. the vice chair of the january 6th committee warned of dangerous consequences if her party continues pushing trump's election lies. >> we are now embracing a cult of personality. i won't be a part of that. if we tell the people of wyoming something that's not true, we will soon find ourselves without the structure of the republican. i am asking for your vote and asking you to understand that i will never violate my oath of office. >> despite that warning, most of cheney's opponents on that stage still question the 2020 election result and promoted outright lie of massive voter fraud. out right now is wyoming
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committee man who's a supporter of congresswoman cheney. cheney is very clearly facing a very tough primary. there's such a stark difference between her and her opponent on the stage last night and former president trump's allies intent on seeing her lose. how challenging do you think it is? >> the debates were wonderful last night. it was great to hear the candidates' perspective. this is going to be a tough race. president trump endorsed another candidate, which by default is going to make this challenging. however, representative cheney did a wonderful job. she stuck to what's important, the constitution and our republican values. i think she really stole the show last night. she was the most composed and really highlighted what a leader looks like. >> do you think she has a chance? >> absolutely. i mean, i'm supporting representative cheney here in
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casper. if you drive around towns, there's cheney signs everywhere. it's wonderful to see. you're seeing all types of people come out to support representative cheney because of what she represents and how she's representing the woem people. >> but most of her opponents promoted conspiracy theories and lies about massive voter fraud in 2020, including even referencing claims that have been debunked from a film called 2,000 mules. i want to play for everyone some of what was said from the stage. >> we have serious questions about the 2020 election. the 2,000 mules movie is something i think we have great concern about in terms of the use of the drop boxes. >> what about facebook using the system to steer people?
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we know for a fact all the major internets do that. >> there is fraud happening. and we know it. >> there was a definite setup for the whole 2020 election. >> you wonder, it's clearly landing with some voters, or they wouldn't be saying it. do you think they on the stage believe this, or do you believe they just believe they can't win without saying that right now? >> i think some are taking the easy way out here. the theory that the election was stolen has been disproven now several times. most of the candidates were hinting on the fact that maybe they don't believe it was stolen, but the perception of some individuals is something went wrong in that election. they're really taking advantage of individuals in that situation. it's really unfortunate to see individuals take conspiracy theories and use that to get
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votes. >> you have also been attacked and punished really for criticizing the state's party. what does it -- liz cheney has spoken about what it's been like for her. but what's this been like for you? >> i don't know if you can undermine their values at this point. it's -- you know, i really don't take it personally. they're trying to silence me and intimidate me just like they're doing with other individuals, and it won't work. i'm going to speak on behalf of what i believe is right, and so will others. they tries censoring several individuals within the party. all it does is show how petty their actions are, and it holds no value. it really doesn't mean anything. >> thanks for coming in. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. have a good evening. biden's promise to protect the rights of women who may need to travel to other states for abortion services. we'll be right back.
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for abortion access is not over. >> if states try to block a woman from getting medication, the fda has already approved and has been available for more than 20 years my administration will act and protect that woman's right to that medication. >> the president also said his administration will act to protect the, quote, bedrock rights of women traveling to other states for abortion services. >> if extremist governors try to block a woman from traveling to her state that prohibits her from seeking medical help she needs to a state that provides that care, the federal government will act to protect her bedrock rights through the attorney general's office. >> president biden still wants the senate to codify abortion rights, but case he lacks the votes right now to change the full buster rules and saying the party needs to win more seats in
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the senate in the midterms to get a bill on his be desk. on monday, don't miss the special, the fourth in america, with fireworks across the country. that starts on monday night at 7:00 eastern. thank you so much for joining us this evening. i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm bofl blitzer in washington. tonight, two major decisions in the wake of select committee. one appears to bolster a disputed piece of what she told the panel. the other concerns potential witness tampering concerns raised by liz cheney in her closing remarks on tuesday. >> our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to mr. trump'