attack and get away for several weeks, leaving his high powered rifle behind. it was that rifle traced back to him that helped him track down the suspect in his mother's car and make this arrest. >> at this point, we have not developed a motive for him. >> reporter: police search for a reason, but there were warning signs across social media. music videos, depicting violence, and a cartoon of a stick figure meantd to be the suspect face down in a pool of blood, shotdy police. it was taken down hours after the shooting. classmates from high school say he was withdrawn. >> he was very quiet. he didn't talk that much, and when he did talk, he seemed very gentle. he didn't seem like aggressive or anything at all.

it was very shocking that somebody i know. very heart breaking. i never thought it could happen in any town, or especially someone that i know at all. >> reporter: despite the social media posts, an uncle who lived with the suspect told cnn his nephew was not violent. >> the warning signs, i saw him yesterday evening, and i went home, and i said, i went down stairs and said bye. that was it. that was it. i see no, nothing that could trigger him doing that. >> the weapon, do you have any idea where -- >> i'm not sharing that, no. >> reporter: despite what this uncle say, we now know the warning signs, the suicide attempt, threatening his family,

the confiscation of the knife collection. despite that, he was able to purchase handguns and rifles legally. including the rifle he used to slaughter seven people. laura. >> thank you so much. it's heart wrenching to hear this. i want to bring in david axelrod. david, supermarkets, hospitals, a fourth of july parade. seems there is no place you can have a safe haven, and as we know, from your roots, this sits close to home for you in particular. you have called this a sickeningly american story. tell us why? >> well, i think it's obvious. the white house lowered flags today to half-mast in honor of the -- in memory of the victims. they should just keep the flag at half-mast because this is

such a regular occurrence in the life of our country. that -- you know, we are just going through this exercise again and again. highland park, where this happened, 25 miles north of here, is sort of the quintessential american community. up scale. the last place you think it co could happen. and it speaks to that it can happen any where, any time. are and it speaks to terrorism. terrorism is to frighten people and make them unsettled and how many families are going to go to the next july 4th parade in highland park and elsewhere. a lot of parents and grandparents are thinking about that today. this is really unsettling. you ask why it's a quintessential american story?

we know the answer, laura. we have exponentially higher gun related deaths than any other peer countries. it's not because we have mental health problems. it's because we have exponentially more guns. almost half of the world's privately owned guns here in america. we need to take a hard look at ourselves or just live with what has become an epidemic. >> it's one thing that the chicago white sox closer, the idea, he was comparing australia and what happened in 1996, and a buy back program from the prime minister, who said, too acceptable. have to buy them back and get them off the streets. and you talk about those members of the community, myself included, david, who are beginning to conform the behavior of the expectation of violence, and decide if it's worth the risk. it's a form of terror to endure

that. you have a friend who was at the parade with her two sons, one of whom was in a wheelchair. and they talked about the gun fire. listen to this. >> for a second, everybody froze. literally, like time stood still and we looked down the street and we saw the crowd running towards us and screaming and it was mass hysteria. and people were running in droves across the railroad tracks and i turned a ran, and i pushed my son's wheelchair and it collapsed on the pavement and he toppled over, and i fell, and it happened again, and my young son picks up my older son and he ran. >> your on son carried his brother. >> yeah, he was a hero. there were a little of heroes in this day, but he is one of them. >> oh. david, i mean, hearing that, thankfully your friends are okay, and you know the community very well. but i mean, just hearing that,

replaying that moment. i mean, how are people holding up in that community? just hearing it in a distance and just trying to vicariously think about what they could have felt like. i'm devastated. >> yeah, well, i have a child with special needs, and i have known this young man paul's son all his life. he can't walk and he can't talk. and you can just imagine there was a mob coming down on them, running in panic. they could hear the gunshots. the child -- the young man fell. he's grown. so it's not an easy thing to carry him. and they -- and you know, frantically, try to drag him to safety. and, you know, it is -- i teared up when i heard the story because this is not how people should live. this is not the country that we want. i will point out, and i know you

covered this some what already this evening, there are a lot of questions in my mind about the family of the alleged shooter. particularly in 2019, he apparently tried to take his own life. five months later, he threatened family members and had a cache of knives and swords that were confiscated by police. none of this qualified for any red flag treatment. but then, his father sponsored him for a firearm i.d. card in the state of illinois. in the state of illinois, you need a parent or guardian to sponsor you, and he was allowed to buy the weapon that killed kevin people and wounded dozens of others yesterday. there is a responsibility here on the part of the family for

enabling what happened yesterday. and i think we have to take a good, hard look at the red flag laws and see how they can be tightened up. there is no way in the world this man should have a weapon of war. certainly, he was the last person who should have it. >> we are waiting for information, about whether the gun that was used is tied to the i.d. card that you spoke about, sponsoring him. but the idea, david, the family, the father, if i'm not mistaken, ran for mayor in the town recently, didn't he? >> he did. >> just a few years ago. i don't know if it lines up with 2019 when things were happening. he ran for mayor recently. >> he did run in 2019. it was at the same time, and you know, he ran -- he was -- he's a local businessman. he owns a deli.

he was complaining about regulations in the city and the climate for -- who knows what that had to do with what was going on in this young man's head. but -- you know, plainly, there was -- there were signs. there were warnings. and one doesn't -- one doesn't enable a young man to buy weapons when he so recently threatened others and threatened his own life. i want to make a point about my friend paul who you saw earlier. he served in the clinton white house in the '90s. he was there during the battle for an assault weapons ban. that assault weapons ban was in place for ten years, and that assault weapons ban was effective, it was effective in reducing these kinds of incidents. we now have ten times the number of assault weapons in this

country that we had when the ban was allowed to expire, including the weapon that was used yesterday, and very nearly -- not, it did threaten the life of paul and his two children, including his child with special needs. so he -- i know talking to him, he was reflecting on that. and how angry he was that -- that -- went for naught after ten years and we face what we face today. >> david, i go back to your original statement about per p perpetually flying the flags half most. thank you for tonight, appreciate it. >> thanks. i want to turn to former atf

executive, and from the fbi, steve moore. i want to pak up where he left off. steve, i can ask you, officials responded to two incidents involves the suspect in 2019. one, where he tried to kill himself. another, where he threatened to kill everyone in his family. there are also disturbing online videos that drew just mentioned earlier in the piece, and i wonder about the idea -- social media, why wasn't this person watched more closely? >> well, because in the united states, we have very -- for 200 years now, we have very carefully prospected the privacy rights of individuals for good or for bad. when i was in the fbi, we were prohibited from going on public websites at work when we were

looking for white supremacy activities. we couldn't go on the websites because of the fear in the justice department that we would be abusing the privacy rights. >> well, hold on. if they are public websites, why is it privacy if you go on what everyone else can see? >> it's like you were in the room when i argued that point. but you ask any ajegent there a the time, and we will say, listen, if someone takes that garbage out to the curb, it's considered abandoned and we can take it. but if they put it on a website, we are not allowed to go on the website to see what they're doing, and the point is, the fbi does not go on to see what people are doing, and that is -- that was the mentality at the time. and i hope it's changed. but still, we don't have -- you know, you have your -- the two police callouts.

i know of no procedure that puts those type of callouts into any decision as to whether a person should own a gun. they should be considered but there is nothing to link those events in police records to a purchase of a weapon that might only be federally limited or regulated. >> well, you know, the point he's making, obviously, scott, in terms of what the constraints in terms of what law enforcement might be able to do proactivity about the issues. but in terms of what they are doing reactively. they have dressed a photo of the shooter dressed in women's clothing in the attack. this person is in disguise. had an escape plan to avoid capture. what does it tell you? >> without sounding glib, just because somebody is apparently

crazy, doesn't mean they are incapable of planning, and plan he did. he obviously went to some significant length to conceal his activities, to make sure that he could get in and get out. so this wasn't like a one-way mission where he intended to do the suicide by cop thing or engage in a shoot out with law enforcement. so the fact that he under took this effort to conceal himself and to plan and to have additional fire arms tells you a lot about the person. it may ultimately turn out to he pleads some diminished capacity. but that could go against that, or argue against that, because he did so much planning and more is going to come out about that. >> you know, the lawyer in me has to talk about the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

this can be -- we are told, the investigators are talking with the alleged shooter, in this circumstance. and i wonder if you know what the conversations are like, and what questions will they will trying to ask to figure out the why. this person was allegedly a rapper. had posted music and videos and cartoon drawings that seemed to play out similar at least in part to what we are seeing here in the aftermath. i mean, what are the questions you would be asking to figure of the why? >> you know, the things you asked, i actually interrogated a shooter the morning after he machine gunned a group of kids in a school. and usually, they want to tell you the reason. they want to tell you exactly why they were angry. they want to show their righteous indignation. if he's not talking -- what you're going to try to do, as

difficult as it sounds, you are going to try to create a bond with this individual. you're going to talk to him. you're not going to be threatening to him. you might even be -- i know it sounds horrible, admiring of his work. admiring of his plans to get that person to talk to you. not because anything he did doesn't churn your stomach. but because the more he talks, the closer he is to paying for what he's done. and so, it's a very distasteful, sometimes days of talking to that person, as if you're their best friend. and getting every single detail so that if he tried to pull back and say, well, i didn't really do it, you have 20 different facts they talked about and you have been able to confirm over night. so it's very delicate discussion. >> whatever it takes. scott, highland park has an

assault weapons ban in place. but police say the suspect was legally able to purchase the firearm in the chicago area. many are asking in this nation of law, what would have -- what might have stopped this attack? >> i think that's a question, laura, that everybody wants answered. and it's probably one of most difficult things to answer. because once he turned 18, under federal law, under the gun stroll act in 1968, he was loc legally allowed to buy that rifle, and once he turned 21, he was able to buy handguns. so i think it's going to be interesting to see the circum circumstances exactly under which he was able to obtain an ar-15 style rifle, given the law that was in that city. now, it has not been publicly released whether he actually bought that from a federal arms

within the city or one of the neighbors cities. so he could certainly skirt a local ban on something by going over and purr cchasing it elsewhere. but they're supposed to check the driver's license and make sure that the address he puts on the fire arms transaction form report, the atf form, matches his i.d., and they have picked up on the fact that if he bought a firearm that was pro4hibited n the city he lives, he should not have been able to complete the transaction. but that is something that investigators will figure out. to get the crime intelligence of the weapons that he purchased. and like david axelrod said, the father would have had to have

sponsored him. what role did the father play in giving his good graces to his son who had just threatened to slaughter people and think that it was a good idea that he get any sort of a firearm. >> there are so many questions we all have, and i'm looking towards that first appearance in court. i believe he has lawyered up. we will see what he is communicating and what his plea might be on the initial charges. we have to wait and see and get the questions answered. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> thank you, laura. next, adds in as invest 2k3w5i9 gators work. the player of uvalde speaking to cnn saying he fears a cover-up in the investigation of the shooting that killed 19 children and two of their teachers. >> i think it's a cover-up on -- >> they've coming up. >> mcgraw's covering up. >> for who? swollen, painful. emerge tremfyant®.

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in the wake of another mass shooting in america, there are still many unanswered questions about the deadly school shooting in uvalde, texas. the mayor of uvalde now telling cnn he feels a cover-up to the investigation of the massacre and is now calling on the governor to investigate. >> i think it's a cover-up. >> they're coming up. >> mcgraw is coming up. >> for who? >> maybe his agency. or maybe he told the story he told that it's hard -- you know, what are they saying.

it's always hard when you tell a lie, you have to keep telling a lie. maybe he had misinformation. >> he hasn't changed his story. >> which is more -- >> he was more emphatic about the chief being the man responsible for everything, blaming everything on him. >> you know, again, you know, every agency in that hallway will have to share the blame. and like i said, again, when you have seen a federal or state low enforcement officer take the cues? >> dps is a big ajendygency? t the state. do you this they mcgraw should resign, step down? >> he has to be accountable when this is all said is done too. your story can't change on something this horrific three times in four days.

that's what it's done. when i got to the scene, there were 30 to 40 officers on scene. you see them runs around with flack jackets on and different things. that is video that is shown on the outside. we want to talk about no presence of them in the hallway? i know one time there were 14 of them in the hallway. if they stayed there or not, i can't tell you. i haven't seen the video. lik like i said, if this is a failure, it's a failure on everybody everybody -- >> well, it is a failure. >> your issue is that everything is pointed towards one place. >> sure. >> in some ways. >> and if we point everything over here, the truth is not going to come out, and these families and this community, they deserve to know w4hat happened. >> are you concerned that the

truth is not going to come out? >> i think we will get to the truth. i think they put themselves, they backed themselves in a corner and they don't have a way out, and they try to -- they released so much bs, in my opinion, they put themselves in a corner, so how do you come out of a corner? >> and laura, you know,dps, he is referring to them a lot. it's the texas department of public safety, and the leader mcgraw directly answers to the governor. he is taking issue with some of the issue that is put out there. specifically, why is it he feels that every time that the colonel mcgraw talks about it, he never talks about his officers, the state troopers, working for the department of public safety, and everything is being pointed to local officials in uvalde, but for some reason, no one else is being talked about.

specifically, because they were there too, he says n the hallway, laura. >> as you say, you point your finger at someone, there are three pointing back at you. you're getting down to the answers, it's been, as you know, extremely hard to get answers from any law enforcement officers down there about what happened at robb elementary. since you spoke to the mayor, is there a response? he called it a cover up where? . >> yeah, strong words from the mayor here. and no, when we go to the texas department of public safety that is running the investigation, they say we can't talk because the district attorney is telling us we're in the allowed a talk, because she is running an investigation, and the dirstric attorney will tell us, she is not talking to us. she refused to answer questions. so no, we are not getting any

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the investigation surrounding former president trump are now heating up. we have court filings show that trump allies including rudy giuliani and senator lindsey graham have been hit by subpoenas by a grand jury in georgia. in washington, there are new details emerging about whether the committee's investigation will be headed in a reach of the testimony of cassidy hutchinson. joining me now, two guests. i'm glass you're both here. i will start with you, the subpoenas, nothing to sneeze at. tell me about why this is so much more dangerous for trump

legally? it's a criminal investigation, fun wur thing. >> yeah, it's a criminal invest gigs. they are not easily brushed off in the way that we have seen the committee subpoenas brushed off. and the d.a. is looking to break in trump's inner, inner circle. the thing we have to realize, and you know this, laura, usually prosecutors do not subpoena someone if they see them as a target. the fact they subpoena these people, means they are unlikely to charge the recipients. you can read what you will. but it tells me they have their sights set on donald trump. >> even though this a special grand jury, they are making a report. will the same still will true, you think?

>> yeah, this is a special grand jury, they will be issues a recommendation, and that is really a. >> paul: policy of doj. it's generally good practice you don't subpoena someone who may be a target. i think the d.a. will abide by that. that is the right, proper and ethical way to do things. it's really up to the d.a., but have every reason that she is abiding by that. >> we'll see, and that is part of the self-incrimination, inviting someone to testify against themselves. ron, we are hearing from sources that are saying the committee has subpoenaed former white house press secretary sarah matthews. remember, she resigned the night of january 6th. how valuable could this

testimony be after what we learned from cassidy hutchinson just last week? >> first, can i say, i'm happy sitting here listening to the two prosecutors talk about the dynamics -- it's fascinating. look, i think it's clear that the committee is intent of providing a very detailed, hour by hour, minute by minute account of what donald trump did or did not do after he got back to to the white house after his bid to go to the capitol was rejected by secret service. and the insight of cassidy hutchinson about trump's behavior that day. if they agree to any formal interview, that is another area of focus. >> we are told the committee has

announced their seventh inning, next tuesday. it's going to focus on the efforts that went in assembling the mob and extremely groups at that rally. what evidence are you going to look? >> when it comes to assembling the mob, i would like to know who paid for the rally on january 6th ? and there is any coordination with the rally? with respect to extremists, what is the connection between the oath keepers, the proud boys, and people really in donald trump's inner circle. we told from jake tapper, were conversations in trump's on bit. we need to find out. >> if we see a third d

documentarian who was documenting it. and we heard from film crews. we heard the committee could make multiple criminal referrals, including one from the former president. i'm wonder what kind of political shock waves that could send. we are a hop, skip and a jump away from midterm elections. what would the impact be? >> well, i think first of all, you know, in terms of -- you got to separate out the impact on the midterm and potential 2024. i do think this is taking a bite out of donald trump. it may force him to try to announce for president early, to announce for president -- yeah, even before the midterm election in an effort to make it tougher for the justice department to eventually prosecute him, and that is the thing that democrats would most like to see between now and november. history tells us the party in the white house is going to show up in big numbers.

it's always true in american politics. inflation is high. gas prices are $6 a gallon. democrats are going to have a difficult time with a lot of swing voters. the biggest unknown in the election is what happens to the democratic base that came out in historic numbers, particularly in 2018 and 2020, to beat donald trump? i think the january 6th investigation, even without a trump announcement, and plus the supreme court action on guns and abortion are clearly awakening this base. whether or not it's to overcome the obstacles is not clear. i do think the ability of democrats to argue, if you did not like his vision to prevail, to honor the fight in 2019, and 2020, the fight is not over. it's probably the best argument they have between then and november. >> we will turn there next.

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court decision to overturn row v. wade, nine states have passed laws banning or severely restricting abortion, and the state of louisiana could join the list. the lawmakers are planning to hold a special session july 25th to discussion an abortion ban. states around there are flacking to indiana where abortion is still legal. a doctor there is seeing an influx of patients. doctor, thank you for joining me. since the ruling, what are you seeing as far as women from other states? are there more women crossing in to indiana? >> absolutely. we know that people have been traveling for abortion care for a long time. we know in indiana, there are many people who live in places where there is no access to abortion care, and now it's getting worse. now, people are having to travel

across state lines due to the state laws that come down. >> we learned about the idea, and one of the pushbacks is how women are means can possibly travel, but those who are not are going to have a hurdle. but the phrase women, i want to get into this. we have been hearing a lot about the idea of not having exceptions for rain or invcest r even younger women, girls in fact, but can we talk about row being overturned, young girls who are victim of above, and victims of rain and incest. i hope they are not being dismissed in what they are experiencing right now. can you tell us how at risk they may be as we speak? >> absolutely. we know this is relatively common. one in ten young women will face sexual abuse, assault, by the age of 18. they are one of many people who

need abortions for whatever reason across the age spectrums, and the bans are severe. no exceptions in ohio with the s six-week ban. there is no accounting for the range of reasons that people need an abortion, and again, the laws are created without any consideration for medical necessity, they are created by lawmakers and not by doctors. an abortion is health care and needs to stay in that area. >> i think as a former prosecutor, i think of the cases i had to prosecute, sexual violence among the youngest children among us, and one of the cases, like a younger girl cannot get pregnant at a young age. that is not true. puberty is happening earlier and earlier, and i don't want it to be last in the conversations surrounding those who are

vulnerable to the crimes committed against them. >> absolutely. again, people need to understand what are the real world repercussions of the law? it's not something that can be debated in the political realm. it needs to be decided by a patient and their patient for the range of reasons, including abuse, for which people need abortions, and the risk of continuing a fpregnancy in a young age. every doctor can tell you the youngest patient they had to take care of. >> the indiana, and the people to travel around the country in a new patch work of what we had in what was the united states of

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tonight the white house is saying president biden read a letter handwritten to him by the wnba star brittney griner who is being detained by russian authorities. it reads in part as i sit here in a russian prison, alone with my thoughts and without the protection of my wife, family, friends, olympic jersey or any accomplishments, i'm terrified i might be here forever. she goes on saying i realize you

are dealing with so much but please don't forget about me and the other american detainees. please do all you can to bring us home. the white house press secretary responding tonight. >> this is a priority for this president. est he's doing everything he can. the white house coordinating with the presidential envoy for hostage affairs that met with brittany's family and her teammates and her support network. >> brittney griner was arrested at moscow's airport in mid february. russian officials claiming she had cannabis oil in her luggage accusing her of smaluggle incoma narcotics substance. she faces up to ten years in prison if convicted. thanks for watching. our coverage continues .

and good evening. a seventh person has died from gunshot wounds suffered at yesterday's july 4th parade in highland park, illinois outside chicago. seven people celebrating this country's foundational holiday sacrificed to its modern reality. [ gunshots ]