tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 5, 2022 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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>> police say a suingle gunman fired 70 rounds from a rooftop. the suspect in custody charged with seven counts of murder a young nobody with a history of posting violence online. police say they had two encounters with him in 2019, one involving a reported suicide attempt, the other after a family member told police he said he was going to quote kill everyone. they confiscated 16 knives at that time. as always, we'll not show his photo or use his name but we'll begin telling you what we know about the people whose lives he allegedly took. jackie was lifelong member in israel where she was an event coordinator and had a smile and hug and beautiful ray of light. jac jackie was 63. nicholas came to visit family in
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high highland park, he said he loved fishing, painting and walks with his family. according to the times he was sitting in a wheelchair. another grand daughter told "the times" we brought him here to have a better life. he was 78. 35 and 37-year-olds were at the parade with their son aiden two years old. both were shot and killed. aiden's extended family is taking care of him. a grandson telling cnn and rye his bike and saying he had a lot of life in him. we only know the name of one kathryn goldstein, excuse me, kathrine gold sstein was 64.
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a lot to talk about tonight. we'll bring president biden to you and remarkable measures he had to take to keep his loved ones safe. >> reporter: 100 0 a.m. the fourth of july parade kicks off, streets filled. hundreds celebrating. then -- [ gunshots ]. >> reporter: 10:14 a.m. gunshots, dozens rapidly fired into the crowd. >> had to have been 20 to 30 at least that i heard and then -- >> reporter: shots? >> 20 to 30 pops, which were shots. >> reporter: one after the anotherer. >> pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, had no clue that it was a gun. as soon as i recognized everyone running, i knew it had to have been a shooter. >> reporter: a 21-year-old
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suspected gunman disguises himself as a woman and fires off more than 70 rounds with a high-powered rifle. he had climbed to a fire escape to shoot from the rooftop of a business. >> and the injuries i saw were wartime injuries. those are what are seen in victims of war. not victims at a parade. everybody saying running and panic and total pandemonium. >> reporter: the gunman dropped the rifle and escaped the scene. >> he walked to his mother home in the area and blended in with everyone else running around like he was an innocent spectator as well. >> reporter: from there the suspected gunman took his mother's vehicle. >> we're aggressively looking for the individual responsible for the shooting. >> reporter: hours into the manhunt, a break. an alert scitizen calls 911 aftr seeing the car that leads to a police chase and the shooter is arrested. of the seven people killed, the
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lake county coroner says five adults died at the scene and two at the hospital. ranging in age from eight to 85 sand tonight nine patients reman hospitalized. >> miguel marquez joins us. highland park is a quiet chicago suburb. >> reporter: shock and disbelief. one person said if it can happen here it can happen anywhere. this is where the parade started and you can see the remanence of what people left behind and how quickly they left, the chaos and confusion and the violence of what happened in this spot. it is starting to become hallow ground. a lot of people from town now coming down here to sort of take in this scene they walk up to the yellow tape and some of them
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burst into tears. they're also starting to put up makeshift memorials and hang orange ribbons for prevention of gun violence all throughout this area and i'm only guessing we've seen too many times we'll see a very big memorial pop up here in the hours ahead. anderson? >> yeah, miguel, we were just showing on the side of our screen, images of vice president kamala harris there greateting e mayor and police officials, as well. we anticipate her making comments any moment. we'll obviously bring them to the viewers. appreciate it. correspondent drew griffin has been looking deeper into what authorities have been learning. he joins us now. drew, what have you learned about the weapon used in this attack? >> reporter: it was one of five that the shooter legally owned and when you hear about the shooter and the red flags in his
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past, i think a lot of victims' families will be scratching their heads, anderson. how could this possibly be? the gun was a rifle. it was dropped at the scene because he had legally purchased it, the atf was immediately able to track that gun back directly to the suspect. they found his second rifle in his quote unquote get away car. the car that was borrowed from his mother and then three pistols that he owned that were confiscated at his home. five guns all together, which this individual owned, one of which police say he used to slaughter these seven people. anderson? >> and what more have you been learning about this person's background? i want to remind the viewers we're not showing pictures of him or videos of him, music videos. he's clearly desperate for attention and we just don't want to give that to him. we want people to remember the names of those people who were killed, not this person's name. what have you been learning about his background? >> reporter: well, the social
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media post that he put up which are all taken down now were quite disturbing and in of itself should have been a warning he was struggling. back in 2019 he attempted suicide. police were called. and months later, police were called back to that home again and he was threatening to call everybody and they confiscated a collection of knives including a dagger and sword and yet, despite that there was no red flag warning which prevented him from going ahead and leg ally purchasing a firearm later on sand the firearm that led to this. his mother left him in a hot car for 27 minutes in the past.
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she pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge on that but again his friends saying he's a loaner, quiet keeping everything inside. there is obviously as in so many cases, anderson, that you and i have covered, these red flag warnings people did not take the next step and intervene. >> police said they did look into his past and knives. >> reporter: we're trying to figure out what happened. the initial answer is he didn't own guns at the time so they didn't put him on the red list that just went into effect in
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2019 by the way or if a detective did digging to see if there was anything disturbing on social media or anything else about this kid screaming out for attention or intervention, mental health or otherwise. >> drew griffin, appreciate it. charles ramsey served as top cop in d.c. and philadelphia. which had a shooting yesterday that wounded two police officers. chief, as we watch vice president harris talking to police officials, local officials, what does it tell you that the shooter had the two prior contacts with law enforcement in 2019? one of which was after the family member reported the shooter was saying he was going to quote kill everyone. and still he was able to purchase five guns. >> first contact was involving a
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suicide at least attempt suicide on his part. mental health professionals dealt with that. the second one he was threatening to kill everyone, they did seize knives from the home. no one in the home wanted to sign complaints against him. the police officers didn't witness anything. they had no probable cause. forwarding that information to the state police will be interesting to get the response from the state police. to find out why that was not included as part of the red flag law that had recently been passed. it seemed to me that would be part -- at least something that would justify that. it was a new process and maybe it fell through the cracks. i don't know. but the bottom line is, clearly an individual who shouldn't have access to firearms but he was
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able to legally purchase several firearms. >> the motive is still unknown at this point. investigators have said that they quote been in discussions with the shooter. can you explain what the discussions are like behind the scenes with authorities tries to get information from the suspect, assuming he's read his rights. i don't know if he has an attorney. >> it's all part of the interrogation. they begin the question him about the event itself. it's also going through the social media, other evidence they may have recovered during the course of their execution of search warrants and so forth. to see whether or not in his writings or anything would indicate why he did what he did. now, it didn't stop him from being charged with murder. you would need a motive if he was going to be charged with hate crime chl obviously. but as far as the murder charge goes, it's not uncommon for that to occur and not have a motive. at least you never find the motive from the individual when ever you have a case like this.
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it's not uncommon. >> chief, appreciate it. thank you. our next guest was at the high land park parade with his little brother. just four years old. also his five-year-old son and his partner. her daughter and dog. they got there early and as you can see from the photos everything about the moment was exactly what all hoped the fourth of july might be. just a great summer day outside with the family. until it wasn't. thankfully they are all safe tonight. he joins us now. the pictures of your family, so beautiful. take me through what you experienced when you first heard shots ring out. what did you think? >> my first reaction was to think it was something part of the parade. i had seen the navy pass by with the marching soldiers and thought they stopped to salute the flag. and shot into the air. but as soon as the shots became
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sporadic and i saw people falling to the ground and people running, i realize that was not the case. so that's when i picked up my 5-year-old son and my little brother and a puppy. and i just started to run for cover. i ran to one of the local store fronts behind me and i tried to break an entrance. so the door of the glass door i wasn't able to punch through and i then decided i needed to continue to move. and get out of harms way. so we continued to run around the corner of the building and that's when i was able to locate some dumpsters. and i put my son in there. i put my brother in there and i asked to stay there and be safe. i had to go find the rest of the
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family. and i asked a couple of the people that were hiding that were hiding in the dumpster and the lady on the roof to please watch my children while i went back to look for the rest of my family. and i ran back to the parade -- >> the kids must have been so distraught? that must have been so hard to leave them there. >> yeah. it was very hard but at the moment i thought it was what i needed to do because in the back of my mind i had the rest of my family i had to locate and that's what i did. i went back and went to look for them. i found my phone. i saw somebody i saw a horrible scene of a small 7-year-old boy being carried and all i needed to do was find my family and go
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back reunite and get out of there. it was a horrible scene and something that no family should have to endure. >> you saw a little boy being carried away by police? >> it was either police officer or one of the people that were helping in the parade. one of the medical experts and i just saw his head hanging and i just i thought about my family. and i had to get back to my son and i had to locate the rest of the family and move. move as far as possible from the situation. >> when you got back to the
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where you had been, had the shooting stopped? >> it had stopped. i think that's why i was able to get to where we were originally seated. and grab my phone so i can locate my partner. it was just now a scene of terror. a couple people on the ground on the short distance in front of us. in front of me. agonizing. people were helping them, bleeding. there was a man shot in the back. still running i think he was looking for his family and there was just horrible. to be in that situation and know that i had my children and my son waiting for me is what was in my mind. i had to get back to them. >> how are all the kids doing now? >> you know, surprisingly things -- they seem to be okay. we explained it was fire works. my son is smart and realized
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what was going on. and i had to explain to him. that night last night around 9:00 p.m., he broke down and he started to cry and said we had such a nice day. he was so excited. why did that man ruin it? why did he have to shoot? i don't want to go to a parade. i'm afraid that where is he, did they catch him and a friend of mine sent me, posted on facebook a picture of the suspect being detained and i was able to -- i had to show my son. i had to explain this was the situation and he was gone. and he was just worried asking how far is he? is he in jail? can he escape? we went to the police department and spoke to a few of the sheriffs. >> you spoke to the police. i'm glad. i appreciate that. i want to listen into vice president harris. thank you so much for talking with us and i wish your family the best. >> thank you. >> we're here for you and we
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stand with you. and of course as we always say, because it's true, our prayers are with you. the president and i and our administration have put all the resources and will continue to put the resources the mayor and the chief and others need. in terms of federal assistance so the fbi and atm are here. there's a lot of healing that will have to happen that is both physical and emotional. there's no question that this experience is something that is going to linger in term of the trama. i'd like to urge all the families and individuals to do
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seek the support you so rightly deserve. and and we'll deal with what we need to deal with. as we move forward agreeing that we have to be smarter as a country in terms of who has access to what. in particular assault weapons. and we have to take this stuff seriously. as seriously as you are because you have been forced to take it seriously. the nation should understand and have a level of empathy. to understand that this can happen anywhere. in any peaceful community. we should stand together. and peek out. and speak out. thank you. >> vice president kamala harris tonight in high land park. we'll be joined shortly by the mayor who was there to greet her. with one of the members revealing new death threats against him and his family the house january 6 select committee announces the date for the next hearing. we'll speak with congresswoman
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as we mentioned before the break, vice president harris is in high land park. she arived at the shooting scene a short time and spoke briefly. saying healing needs to happen. pledging support from the administration and promising to take the problem of gun violence as seriously as the people have been forced to. joining us now -- chris -- let's go to senator murphy standing by. thank you for joining us. appreciate it. we have a little miscommunication here. i wonder what your reaction is to the information that authorities have released that there were two engagements law enforcement had with this alleged shooter. previously.
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the police say they referred to state police and it's not clear exactly why the person was wasn't on a red flag ordnance passed recently. what stands out to you about the incident? >> first of all, i apologize for my informal appearance. i'm in the middle of my annual walk across connecticut. i wanted to join you tonight. this is obviously important. i think what we know is that illinois has on the books a red flag law. it's a law that is not utilized very often. from what i understand there's one county that accounts for about 60% of all of the red flag laws ordered in the state. that means that it's an ineffective program. the bill we just passed through congress a week and a half ago appropriates a billion dollars to help states like illinois teach law enforcement, first responders how to use a red flag law well. and you have to wonder if everybody knew how to use illinois's red flag law, would that have used it in this case?
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it does appear there was enough information about the young man to cause a court to cause law enforcement to go in and take his guns away. there are other provisions that would have been impactful. a well run red flag law might have done the trick here. >> can you talk about a red flag law and what it would allow law enforcement to do in a situation? >> sure, every state's law is different. what it allows for is a court order to allow police to take weapons away including guns from an individual who pose a clear threat to themselves or others. this law works in places like florida where people who are threatening suicide or threatening to harm others have their guns taken away. and the standard of proof is different in every state. but clearly this is an individual who had previously
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made threats of a mass shooting. i don't know all the detail. it appears in this case, illinois red flag law could have been used to temporarily take the guns away. and the probable is there's only 20 states that have the laws on the books. our legislation gives money to states like illinois to information about how to operational the laws. and gives money to other states as incentive for them to adopt the laws that are working in states like florida, working less well it seems in states like illinois. >> the right around the same time the gun safety bill pagsz the stream court ruled on this case targeting new york law to make states difficult to pass laws restricting concealed carry. it's been difficult in new york to get a permit. how much do you fear that will cancel out the progress you were hoping to see from the new law?
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>> the supreme court ruling was very narrow. the concern is some of the language that accompanied that narrow ruling. there maybe five members of the supreme court who hold an extreme view of the second amendment. in which almost no regulation of firearms would be deemed constitutional. thus take away from the people the ability to keep our community safe. listen, it's no secret that i don't think our gun law goes far enough. our gun law does allow states to make their red flag laws work better. that could have made a difference here. and alert law enforcement any time somebody under 21 is trying to buy a weapon. local law enforcement. in this case whether things might have gone differently if local law enforcement had been alerted when this young man was trying to buy assault weapons. we need to go further. but i don't think anything in the supreme court ruling invalidates the law that
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congress passed and there are elements of that law that could have made a difference here. >> senator murphy, good luck on the rest of the walk. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. back next with highland park's mayor. more ahead. wait 'til you see me on the downhill... [laughs] see you at home. enjoy advanced safety at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. ♪ is this where your grandparents cut a rug, with a jitterbug? or returned from war, dreaming of the possibilities ahead. ♪ where your dad waited for his dad to come home from the factory. is this where they gathered on their front steps, with fats domino on the breeze... ancestry can guide you to family discoveries in the 1950 census. see what you can uncover at ancestry. a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose.
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park. joining us now who had the sad duty tonight. mayor of highland park. thank you for being with us. just now with vice president harris and invited her to your town, what did you tell her, what did she tell you? >> we shared with her the profound grief that our community is experiencing right now. and she gave a very important message to our first responders.
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that was the they needed to take care of themselves. we know that the scene was unbelievably gruesome. the after math. and it was important for them to hear that message that even though they're tough, they need to to be able to get the assistance they need. and we have been fortunate to have resources sent to us, federally, state, county, local. we will make sure our personnel or getting support. >> what's your reaction to the news tonight that illinois state police granted a firearm card to the suspect after they received report from local police that he threatened to kill his family in 2019? >> i'm looking forward to an explanation. of what happened. we in highland park are police department did the right thing. filed the necessary report. and i am waiting for that explanation. i expect it in the next few days. this should have never happened. and let's be clear this is a unique circumstance, but it's thousand percent now. it's been going on all over the nation and we know in other countries people suffer from mental illness and anger, maybe they play violent video games. they can't get their hands on these weapons of war and they can't bring this kind of carnage to their hometowns. this has to stop. >> what do you think can or should be done to identify those
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at risk of committing violent acts and intervene before something happens? >> we have red flag laws in illinois and we saw in the recent federal bipartisan bill more resources put towards addressing red flags and addressing the mental health needs of so many people. but we need people to speak up and not watch what's happening on social media. and find it to be entertainment. these are signals that people are having issues. signals they have intentions. we know the this suspect planned these murders for months in advance. people need to speak out. this has to end. again, i'm going to go back to my original point. we need to take away access to these type of weapons. the weapons that can bring this
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carnage to our street. >> i know that you knew the accused shooter when he was a young boy in the cub scouts. just personally that's got to be -- such a strange thing to have that experience. i'm wondering if it changes the way you see this in any way? >> it does not. he brought pure evil to my hometown on a day that families were out celebrating freedom. this isn't freedom. and having known him as a small boy, that's one thing that was a very long time ago. he now is somebody who will be held accountable for murdering seven people. >> what is your message to -- we talked to a man who was at the parade with his family. his one of his young kids is scared. he took him to go meet with police in the police talked to him and the young son and made him feel better. what's your mez message to young kids and families in the community who might be fearful the next time there's a public event? >> i can totally relate.
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i think we all are fearing a little bit at the moment. this is a day frankly of mourning. and processing. yesterday was a day of shock. and i'm encouraging everybody that i can to go seek the counselling that is being provided free of charge. as i walked through town today, it has been a series of hugs. and tears. we are all feeling this deeply. and this can't continue. >> mayor, i appreciate your time tonight. i'm so sorry it's under these circumstances. i wish you and your community the best. >> many thanks, i appreciate it. take care. appreciate it. a lot more news ahead to tell you about. we're following events in georgia, it's been six weeks
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we continue bringing the latest details from the shooting in illinois, there are new details on the investigation to the rob elementary school shooting in uvalde, texas. it's been 42 days since the shooting killed 19 students and two teachers and we are still uncovering details about law enforcement's response or lack of response. just hours ago, both the uvalde mayor and texas state senator sent a letter to texas governor calling on him to remove the local district attorney he appointed to oversee the victims compensation and other services. in an interview with cnn the you have had mayor said he fears
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there's a cover up of the investigation. we spoke with the mayor earlier today. joining me from uvalde. what did you hear from the mayor? >> certainly he's raising some serious allegations. he's very concerned over how the investigation which is being run by state investigators, how they're running this investigation. and as you can see there's just a ton of mistrust here. between all the agencies. that's one of the reasons why that letter was written asking for the district attorney to recuse herself from monitoring and giving out any of the funds. certainly the mayor raising some serious allegations. take a listen to what he told me. >> the cover up on -- >> they're covering up. >> mcgrau. >> for who? >> maybe his agency. maybe the story he told -- it's always hard when you tell a lie you have to keep telling a lie. i'm not saying he was lying. maybe he was misled with information. >> he hasn't changed his story. >> no.
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>> since friday and then did the senate hearing, which is even more emphatic about chief arredondo being the man who was responsible for everything here. blaming everything on him. >> well, again, every agency in that hall way is going to have to share the blame. and like i said, again, i'll go back to when have you ever seen to share the blame. and like i said, again, i'll go back to when have you ever seen a federal or state law enforcement officer take accuse from local law enforcement? >> dps is a big agency in the state. the governor -- they report directly to the governor. >> sure. >> do you think he should step aside? step down, resign? >> i think he's going to have to be held accountable when this is all said and done. we all are. like i said, your story can't change on something this horrific four time ins three days. >> let's be candid. when i got to the scene there were 30 officers already on scene.
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and the various videos you see officers running and with jackets on and ballistic helmets. that's video that's been shown from the outside. yet, we want to talk about no presence of the in the hallway. there were 14 in the hallway. if they stayed or not, i don't know. i haven't seen the video. like i said, if this is a failure, it's a failure on everybody's part. >> it is a failure. you can't say if this is, you have to say it is. >> it is. that failure, every agency has to own part of it. >> your issue is everything is being pointed towards one place. >> sure. >> in some way. >> if we point everything over here, then the truth is not going to come out. and these families in this community deserve to know what happened. >> are you concerned the truth is not going to come out? >> i think we'll get to the truth. i think they put themselves backed themselves in a corner. they don't have way out yet.
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they're trying to figure out how. they released so much bs in in my opinion. they put themselves in a corner. how do you come out of the corner? >> the allegation he is making is a serious one and it's important point he's making. he's essentially saying the texas department of public safety is focusing all the blame on ardando. giving the lack of decision making in the moment. he is saying that the texas department of public safety had officers in the hallway as well. and they should bare some responsibility as well. correct? >> right. that's exactly what he is saying. he feels everything is being directed towards the one chief here. who runs the school district and then none of the blame is being placed on any of the other officials there from the state. dps is a very large organization.
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they certainly have different kinds of training. more experienced certainly than the school police and perhaps the chief. that is why he's saying what is it that the head of the dps, what is it he feels he is hiding something. every time he does any kind of statement about this or testified before the state senators here, everything was blamed on the local officials. and that everything that dps may have been doing on scene was left out in that testimony. >> and how is dps responding? >> so, they're really not talking about this anymore. they say there's an investigation and the district attorney office many people have issues here with how she's conducting herself. and how she's doing the investigation. families and local officials. they're saying they're not permitted to talk about this because of her investigation.
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but they say that they're working with the other investigators involved in this. they expect some point that information regarding what happened here will come out. >> i said days after the slaughter there, to you, you have been doing such a remarkable job staying on it. it's so important. a lot of the officials want nothing more than for this to go away and issue a report that nobody listens or pays attention to. still to come, there's more ahead. new information on the next public hearing of the january 6 committee. plus, whether they plan a criminal referral for the former president. also new tape the disturbing phone calls and voice mails the office of one republican committee member has been receiving.
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from today, july 12th, 10:00 a.m. it did not announce witnesses or the topic. congressman adam schiff, who is on the committee, previously said the next hearing will focus on, quote, efforts to assemble that mob on the mall, end quote, as well as the connections between the former president's allies and extremist groups at the capitol that day. the hearings of have drawn attention, about 13 million viewers according to nielsen. attention has come, threats of violence against members of the committee. republican congressman adam kensinger published a series of voicemails and phone calls his office has received. we warn you, the language is graphic and include threats of violence. >> hey, you little [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. going to come protest in front of your house this weekend. we know who your family is and we're going to get you, you little [ bleep ], you [ bleep ] little bastard.
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going to get your wife, going to get your kids, you little [ bleep ] bastard. >> you [ bleep ]. you gave $200 to that black b -- who killed ashli babbitt. i hope some, someone like him kills your nasty mom, your nasty wife. it's not a threat. it's a hope. >> you're going to swing for [ bleep ] treason, you communist [ bleep ]. >> also this weekend, the other republican member of the committee, congresswoman liz cheney, indicated the committee could make a criminal referral for the former president, perhaps others. listen. >> so the committee will or will not make a criminal referral? >> we'll make a decision as a committee about it. >> it's possible there will be a criminal referral? >> yes. >> which would be effectively the committee saying that he should be prosecuted and this is the evidence that we've -- >> the justice department doesn't have to wait for the committee to make a criminal referral. there could be more than one criminal referral.
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>> the special grand jury in an independent probe in georgia has subpoenaed key allies of the former president, including rudy giuliani, senator lindsey graham, another legal adviser, john eastman. joining me now is congresswoman zoe lofgren, a member of the january 6th select committee. thanks for being with us. you heard the threatening voicemails congressman kinzinger receive. do you think people grasp how dangerous it has become for lawmakers and other current and former government workers who want to share what they witnessed, just to stand up for facts and the rule of law? >> well, i don't know. but those calls were really despicable. in addition to adam's service in the congress, he still flies planes for our military. he's in the reserve and serves in the military. you know, i bet those callers don't realize what a patriotic american he really is. from his service in the congress, to his service in the military. and that those horrible comments
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are just despicable. you know, people need to stand up and say that, in all the political parties, it can't just be democrats condemning that. where are the voices of the republican leaders in our country today? i want them to step forward and condemn this. all of us should be opposed to violence in the political sphere. if there's violence from another corner, i condemn it. it's not the way our country is supposed to run. >> as you know, the former president has referred to congresswoman cheney. suggesting he can face a criminal trial to the justice department. what do you make of his increasingly hostile accusations? do you think it's a sign he's rattled by some of the testimony that has come forth? >> i gave up long ago trying to psychoanalyze the former president. i don't know what's going on. but i do think -- >> your life is probably better off for it. >> it is, much better, much simpler. but i do think that the
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information that the committee has been able to display is very telling. it's meaningful to people. i know some of his, for example, mick mulvaney, who i used to serve with, who is a former chief of staff, really said this changes the picture completely. and so people who have been very tied to the president are thinking it's very serious, and i think it is very serious. >> congresswoman cheney correctly pointed out the department of justice doesn't have to wait for a criminal referral from the committee. do you think a criminal referral from your committee would make a difference in some way with the department of justice? >> it's hard to know. there's no actual statutory process for doing it. it essentially amounts to sending a letter to the department of justice. i would hope that they're not waiting for a letter from us to take action. but we haven't had a discussion
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yet among the committee of whether to send a letter with the evidence to the doj or not. they should be working hard. they should be subpoenaing witnesses. they should be gathering evidence. and of course, we'll be, you know, not stand in their way of getting information pertinent to their quest. >> what is your reaction to the news that several of the former president's allies were subpoenaed today by a georgia special grand jury investigating the effort to overturn the election results? >> i think that's a very big deal. these are the individuals who we have shown through our hearings conspired with bogus claims of fact, bogus legal theories, to essentially overturn the democracy. and many of them have refused to really come in and tell the truth to us. they're going to find a very different situation in georgia
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and this criminal grand jury. and i think it's a very important step forward. obviously we have no way of knowing the details of the investigation. but i think it is very significant. >> congresswoman zoe lofgren, appreciate your time tonight, thank you so much. >> you bet, any time. >> take care. the news continues. i want to hand things over to kasie hunt and "cnn tonight." >> anderson, thanks so much. welcome to "cnn tonight." vice president harris just visited the site of yesterday's deadly mass shooting in highland park, illinois. earlier she called on congress to renew the assault weapons ban and protect communities across the nation from what she called the terror of gun violence. it was another semiautomatic weapon, similar this time to an ar-15 used to slaughter more innocent americans. and this time it happened on america's birthday. more than 70 rounds were fired on an independence day parade, according to police.
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