good evening. authorities say the man now charged in the shooting deaths of seven people in illinois has confessed to opening fire on the city's independence day parade. this video taken in the moment from inside one of the local stores just across the street from the gunman's location. the store's owner who said the manage whole helped lead people to safety has a wife and father who were wounded, but both are doing fine tonight. we also learned today that police believe the gunman fled to wisconsin afterward, where he

contemplated an additional mass shooting. there's new word about how his father helped him obtain a gun license he likely should not have had given the red flags in his past. a young man who had attempted suicide and yet his father helped him get a gun license. more on all of it shortly. first, though, because we have the names of all seven peoplekilled, we want to begin with who they were. eduardo uvaldo had just celebrated his 50th wedding anniversary. his wife and four daughters were everything to him. his daughter telling cnn that he would have turned 70 on friday. despite being the oldest victim at 88, stephen straus was still active, still enjoying life, according to one grandson. another agreed, and i'm quoting here, america's cultural worship of guns is deadly, it kills grandfathers. and it certainly did in this case. nicolas toledo had eight children, countless groundchildren, one of whom describes him as a loving man who was creative, adventurous and funny.

in highland park, from mexico, visiting family, he was 78. jacki sundheim taught preschool, served on the staff of a local synagogue. said one fellow congregant, you just couldn't find a lovelier person. she was 63. katherine goldstein was 64, shot while fleeing with her daughter. her son-in-law says she loved to go bird watching, devoted to her family. in his words, i could not imagine a better mother. and finally, the mccarthies, irina and kevin, 35 and 37. they were at the parade with their 2-year-old son aiden and they died trying to protect him. tonight, he is safe, thank goodness, and surrounded by people who love him, but who cannot take the place of his mother and his father. and his life, his memories or heart. a go fund me page has already raised more than $2.6 million on his behalf for his future. in a moment, we'll be joined by husband and wife who cared for

aiden after the shooting. first, though, cnn's ed lavandera with more on the investigation. what's the latest tonight, ed? >> reporter: well, anderson, earlier today, the shooter appeared in court. he was denied bond by the judge, he appeared via zoom. but we have also tonight obtained an image of that second assault-style rifle that we were told by authorities were inside the vehicle when the shooter was taken into custody monday afternoon. the image of that quite chilling, especially in light of what authorities are telling us tonight, anderson, that they now have reason to believe that after the shooting here in highland park, the shooter drove 2 1/2 hours toward madison, wisconsin, where he had thoughts of carrying out a second attack. investigators talked earlier today about what led them to that conclusion. >> certainly, our investigation has gone very much into --

develop some information that it appears when he drove to madison, he was driving around, however, he did see a celebration that was occurring in madison and he seriously contemplated using the firearm he had in his vehicle to commit another shooting. >> reporter: anderson, investigators went on to say they believe the gunman didn't have enough information, had about researched the situation there enough to carry out the attack and then turned around and drove back to illinois, where he was taken into custody. investigators also say that here at the crime scene in highland park, they found three 30-round magazines and 83 shell casings in the area here where the deadly attack took place. anderson? >> you know, there has been a lot of questions about how he was able to get a weapon. talk more about this reporting that his father, despite reports of a prior suicide attempt or talking about suicide, i think it was in 2019, did his father

sign and affidavit which helped his son get weapons? >> reporter: so, here in illinois, anyone obtaining a firearm has to apply for this card that allows them to do so, but we have also learned that before all of that, in 2019, in april of 2019, family members had reported to highland park police an attempted suicide by the gunman and then five months later, there was another call from family members saying that the gunman had a collection of knives and that he is threatening to, quote, kill everyone. despite all of that, we have learned also that the father sponsored the gunman's application to obtain firearms here in illinois and we know from authorities that this gunman had gone on to legally obtain two assault-style rifles as well as a number of other firearms. >> and i'd also read reporting and correct me if i'm wrong here, but when police went to

respond to the second report, where he threatened to kill everyone in his family, that his mother denied that threat took place, as did the shooter, and that the father claimed the knives belonged to him, the father, is that correct? >> reporter: yeah, the knives, right, the knives were returned to the house there, because the father claimed they were his. and no one in the family would file a formal complaint that would have taken it the necessary next step from what we understand at this point. >> wow. ed, appreciate that, thank you. joining us now is dana and greg ring. they were at the parade with their kids when gunfire erupted, came across a toddler, aiden mccarthy, as they were seeking shelter and cared for aiden until he could be reunited with his grandparents. dana and greg are with me now. thank you for being with us. i'm so sorry for what you have been through. dana, can you just walk us through what happened after you heard shots and did you realize what was happening right away?

>> we happened to -- well, initially we thought we had snagged really the greatest seats i've maybe ever had at a parade before. really close, unfortunately, to what happened being the epicenter of where everything was happening. so, i saw from the start at the corner from where i was standing that there was a physical -- i thought initially maybe fireworks had gone off too close to the crowd or something. but then the sound didn't stop, so it didn't take much time before we realized we needed to run for cover. the whole crowd around us just started stampeding and we -- i mean, we just ran, as well. >> and greg, when did you -- what happened then when you started running? >> we were there with our neighbor. we heard pop, pop, pop, pop, like dana said. and then we started running. my neighbor grabbed my son, i

grabbed millie, our 4-year-old, and dana grabbed zoe, our other 8-year-old, and we ran behind the walker brothers pancake house. there's a garage underneath there and that's where our car was parked, and we ran underneath to get to our car. >> we first actually ran with the crowd and initially took cover behind a brick pillar in front of dairy queen in a pile of so many people al together, just waiting for some stop in the sound and when we finally did hear a pause, that's when we rea realized, we had to get as far away from the direction where it was coming from, which is how we made our way to that back staircase. >> and dana, how did you end up finding aiden? >> so, once we got underground, we put all three of our kids into our car, which we happened to have parked almost right next to where the staircase comes out underground. we were sort of standing outside the car, greg and i, waiting around --

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back now with dana and greg ring. you were telling us before the break, you ran to the parking garage for safety. when is it that you found little aiden? >> so, we got the kids safely into the car and greg and i were standing outside the car, waiting for some kind of signal that we would feel it was okay to try and drive away and as we were waiting and walking and sort of looking at each other, like, what just happened, this lady came down the staircase and she was holding a little boy and she was covered in blood, as was he and she -- you could just tell it was starting to, like, immediately effect her, she was shaking, i was concerned she

might drop the boy, so, we walked over to see if she needed help and ended up taking the boy. she needed a minute, so -- >> she handed the boy over to us. we could tell that it wasn't her blood, it wasn't his blood, she was shaking. she was having a hard time talking. and we looked at each other, she handed him over to me, she then sat down and dana tended to her. >> and i understand you first stopped at the fire department with aiden. what did they tell you? >> so, then we jumped in the car with our kids and aiden and we decided to go to dana's parents' house and on the way there, we passed by the highland park fire station and we pulled in, as i pulled in, the police looked like they were getting ready for war, with machine guns and helmets and i stepped outside with aiden and i said, he's not our boy, what should we do, can somebody help us? and somebody said, i'll never forget, he said, we can't be -- he wasn't disrespectful, he said, we can't be babysitters

right now, can you take care of him? we said of course, and we drove to dana's parents' house and we kept aiden for a couple of hours. >> was he saying anything to you? >> he -- i just kept trying to get his name, because i wanted to be able to talk to him in a calming way, but if -- he was -- i was guessing his was somewhere between 2, 2 1/2, 3, and every time i asked his name, his response each time was, "momma, dada come to get me soon." i was just like, yeah, buddy, they'll come so, so soon. we were just trying to get his name out of him, because we wanted to be able to talk to him and he just was seemingly okay, he wasn't crying, he wasn't -- >> he was watching cartoons with our 4-year-old. >> my dad took him in the back and was holding him watching

mickey mouse by my daughter and totally -- otherwise normal. i mean, if you didn't know where we had come from, you wouldn't guess that there had been anything wrong with him. he was markedly calm. >> and how were you finally able to get him reunited with his grandparents? >> when we went to the fire station, i gave a police officer my in-law's address and my cell phone number and then we got a text message from a detective and the detective came over and couple hours later, took aiden. my in-laws gave us the extra car seat, we took aiden to where families were being reunited. >> how -- how are you all doing? i mean, how are your kids doing? >> our kids are upstairs -- >> with my parents. >> eating macaroni and cheese and watching cartoons with dana's parents, so, i think

they're doing okay. better than it could have been. >> it's starting to come out in bits and pieces, when i think they're thinking about it and when i don't realize they might have it on their mind. granted, my 4-year-old, particularly, has started more frequently asking, or -- asked me why did we make them go to the parade, she didn't even want to go, which it was a actually true. >> they're alive. >> they've got a lot of questions. >> they're alive. >> we just keep trying to remind them how very incredibly lucky we were to, yes, it was a crazy, scary thing, but we were so, so lucky in the end to have all made it through it okay and we just have to keep focusing on that part of it. >> yeah, well, i'm so glad you're okay, your whole family and for helping aiden. we should all be lucky in that situation that people -- that a

child finds people like you. >> anderson -- >> yes? >> anderson, can i say something, or i'll never forgive myself? >> sure, sure. >> we need to stop giving ar-15 machine guns to people with mental health issues. i'm not trying to say anything political right now, i'm speaking as a father -- >> it's not a political issue. >> i'm speaki ing as a father, a husband, i'm speaking for communities in texas, in florida, for synagogues, for churches -- there are damaged people walking around our society who need help. i feel empathy for them. we need to find a way to help them. i know that they shouldn't have access to ar-15 machine guns. i understand that this bill that was just passed during the next shooting politicians on both aisles are going to say, we passed a bill -- half measures do not work. it was a compromise by both

sides and it's a compromise to try to trick the american p people -- our children of all communities are being shot at. it has to stop. i don't know how, but i know that individuals who have mental health issues should not be able to get ar-15 machine guns. >> no one should. >> no one should, but i also understand the reality of this country that i love. i love america, but sometimes you have to criticize things you love. when i'm a jerk, my wife tells me. i accept it and i try to be better. america, we are -- we are failing. and it just -- it's enough. >> and this particular time, it happened to be the group of most effected were all young kids that i don't even know how or when or how long it will take to even come out or be handled in

however many ways it will affect each and every child that experienced this -- in this case, it was filled. everyone that was there, the vast majority of people that attended this parade were young children and their parents or grandparents and this moment, in the middle of their hometown, have their parents and every grownup around them, probably just exhibiting the most amount of terror they ever have felt or could possibly experience and i can't even begin to access my own feelings about it, let alone predict my kids. >> we deserve to be safe. we all do. everybody. that's it. be better. >> dana ring, greg ring, i appreciate it. thank you very much. you take care. >> thank you, anderson. >> thank you. a preview of friday's

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long sought figure has agreed to talk to the january 6th select committee. he is pat cipollone, someone who witnesses have already put at the forefront of efforts to reni in some of the president's worst tendencies, including the president's desire to be at the

capitol with the mob he incited, the mob he knew was armed. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me, we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> multiple sources tell cnn that cipollone will give a transcribed interview behind closed doors this friday. two of the sources telling us the interview will be on video, as well. spokesperson for the committee declined to comment. let's get perspective now from central watergate figure and john dean, also norm eisen, special counsel in the first trump impeachment. john, you called on pat s cipollone to testify. now that he's going to, what do you think are the most important questions he needs to answer? >> i think he can tell us a lot about the state of mind of the president on the 6th.

what his actions were, what he tried to get the president to do. he's there in that heated atmosphere of the day itself. he also knows a lot -- he may or may not share, that lead up to that day, that's what we don't know. if he'll try to invoke privileges and somehow get out of testifying. >> norm, he was the white house counsel, he wasn't the president's personal attorney. in terms of privilege issues what could cipollone plausibly refuse to testify about? >> well, anderson, the privilege belongs to the current occupant of the white house, joe biden. we know there have already been broad privilege waivers and according to press reports, there's agreed areas of testimony. so, all of that being said, the -- the law does provide for some consul tagts tation with t former president, so, if we veer

out of the areas of agreement, then cipollone can say, sorry, i have to consult and refuse to talk, but the main areas that we expect are things like that violent intent on january 6th, the january 3rd meeting, the corruption of doj, and the other issues that have already surfaced. i think we'll hear about those. >> john, obviously a lot of comparisons are being made of your testimony during watergate and cipollone's testimony. are those fair? how important do you think cipollone's testimony will be? >> i -- anderson, i think that the two of us are coming at this issue from very, very different points of view and state of minds. i was somebody who was still trying actively to end an ongoing coverup of illicit activities at the white house, and it wasn't just a bungled break-in. there were whole categories of

things that described what had gone on that put all of it in context. and i thought that needed to be out. it was -- it was not good behavior for a president, it was unbecoming of a white house, so, i wanted to get that out. cipollone, on the other hand, from what i can see, wants to tell us as little as he possibly can and not look like he's an obstructionist. so -- he's walking a fine line of trying to not offend his potential clients down the road, which i don't know how you do. i would think that helping the democracy would be the best thing he could do and what would help democracy most is to explain this behavior in great detail. >> norm, separate but related to the committee investigation, the fulton county d.a. in georgia said today she would not rule out a subpoena for the former president in her investigation. do you think he could get a subpoena squashed?

and lindsey graham is vowing to fight a subpoena. can he get that squashed? >> anderson, i don't think they can. the -- the founding idea of america, and it is expressed in the constitution and in our laws, including georgia state law, is that no person is above the law. these activities that president trump and allegedly lindsey graham were engaged in, are political activities outside their official duties. i mean, it's not part of the job description of the president of the united states to overturn a legitimate election nor of lindsey graham as the republican secretary of state in georgia says, to want to throw out mail-in ballots in democratic counties. so, i think that they do not stand good odds of quashing the subpoena for graham that we know about and the one that may be coming to trump. >> norm, appreciate it.

john dean, as well. thank you so much. coming up, startling revelations in a new report about what went wrong to the police response at the mass shooting at robb elementary school in texas. we're going to have a live report. plus, an interview with a survivor, a teacher who waited in the room with the shooter, wondering if anyone would ever come to save them. sorry i'm late! dude, dude, dude... oh boy. your cousin.from boston. [whiff] [water splashes] is it on the green? [goose squawks] i was just looking for my ball. 19th hole, sam adams summer ale.

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a new investigative report of what went wrong in the police response to the mass shooting in uvalde, texas, highlights missed opportunities to confront the shooter. the study comes the same day that the state legislature says the current uvalde sheriff has, quote, refused to testify in its investigation. joining us from san antonio, shimon procue pez. what are the headlines on this? what's the latest? >> reporter: so, new revelations here kind of in the sense that, yes, it paints a picture of complete chaos, of law enforcement not in charge of the scene. a lot of what we're hearing and have heard about. but one significant piece of information that they've been able to learn is that there was actually a uvalde police officer

who had the gunman in sight, in his rifle, he could see the gunman, could have taken the shot and perhaps taken out the gunman, but he was waiting for a supervisor to give him permission to do so, which is not necessary, it's not needed. but by the time he spoke to his supervisor, the gunman had already been gone and was able to get inside the school. so, certainly, anderson, a missed opportunity there and that's what this report touches on, a lot of the missed opportunities. >> and where does the investigation stand right now? >> right, so, what we're waiting for now is for the texas officials, the house investigators to do their investigation. they're waiting for more testimony, they're trying to get the sheriff, the town sheriff, to come in. he's refused so far to come in voluntarily. they're ordering a deposition for him to come in. and that could be the next place we get information. of course, the texas department

of public safety continues their investigation, as well as the district attorney. >> why in god's name would a sheriff refuse to testify? >> reporter: this is really significant, anderson. this is a top law enforcement official for this town and for some unknown reason, he's refusing to testify. his deputies, his sheriff's deputies, were at the scene that day. it's highly questionable why he's doing this. it's certainly suspicious, but we don't have the answers to that. >> i understand you were able to speak with a teacher who survived the shooting. i just want to take a look and listen to that now. >> i started seeing, like, the sheet rock fly off the walls and stuff like that. and that's when i told my kids, i don't know what it is, but let's get under the table. >> reporter: he was the only survivor from classroom 111 at

robb elementary in uvalde, texas. after a month in the hospital, ten surgeries from bullet wounds, he is finally back home and talking about the day that ripped so many lives apart. >> i was getting the kids under the table, i turned around and when i turned around, i saw him. but i just saw, like, the shadow, and that's when i saw the two, like, the fire, and then i ended up on the ground, as well. >> reporter: and so you -- you get hit and you go down. and what's going on in your mind at that time? >> i'm just thinking and waiting for somebody to come and save us. you always think, you know, something bad is happening, that the cops get there so fast. they rush in and they help you, you know? and i was just waiting for that. i was waiting for anybody --

anybody to come save us. >> reporter: we now know it would be a long and agonizing 74 minutes before police would enter reyes' classroom to kill the gunman. >> he did a lot of things to make me flinch or react in some way. and that was one of them, where he -- he, like, got -- as i'm laying down, like, either like t this, or like this, tapping it, but it was splashing in my face. >> reporter: the blood? >> yes. >> reporter: he was trying to figure out if you were still alive? >> yes. >> reporter: you are laying there for over an hour, and no one's coming to help. what do you think of that?

>> that they forgot us. they probably thought we were all dead or something, but -- if they would have got in before -- some of them probably would have made it. >> reporter: it's a question many are struggling with, as precious seconds tick by, could lives have been saved if officers acted sooner? 19 students and two teachers would lose their lives that day. the subject of multiple ongoing investigations, it's been called one of the biggest law enforcement failures in recent memory. officers feet away on the other side of the door. >> a lot of the law enforcement failed, because they take that oath to protect. i was in there to protect the kids, but i had no bullet vest or any tactical gear that they

use. and they had everything. >> reporter: when did you realize that the children that were around you were dead, were not going to make it? >> after they shot him and the border patrol said, can anybody get up? let's go, let's go, you know, try to get the kids out. nobody moved but me. and then somebody else said, there's children under here. the children were dead under the table. but there was nothing i could do, it just -- so --

>> reporter: your children. >> yeah, my children. >> i cannot -- i cannot believe, watching this -- the killer is splashing this man's blood in his face, taunting him, to see if he's still alive, so -- if he could shoot him again, while police from multiple jurisdictions are standing out in the hallway, heavily armed, for more than an hour, we now know, and, i mean -- the mayor, i think, yesterday called it a coverup -- this is not a question any longer. i mean, this has just been, from the get-go, they have been

covering this stuff up from the earliest statements that they made, whether directly lying about it or trying to focus reporters' attention on other activities that day, on anything but the most important activity, which is why they didn't go into that room. >> reporter: and anderson, why didn't they go in that room and help these people? i mean, you listen to this teacher's story, it is horrendous. it is so painful to imagine that law enforcement, police officers, that are trained to save lives, that are trained to go in, they allowed him to stay in that room for so long, laying on his stomach. he's bleeding, barely breathing and he thinks that's what saved his life, ultimately, because the gunman, that's how the gunman thought he was dead, because he didn't realize that he was still alive and breathing. it's painful. you know, i really wanted to talk to this teacher, because i think the story that he has to tell, the pain that such

violence causes and the way he was able to survive it and the way he's able to live, is an incredible, incredible story, but also, the failures of law enforcement and police and the story he tells here is so, so important, anderson. >> you know, more than 20 years ago, columbine, a teacher was shot to death and died not immediately, he bled out while the police were waiting for a s.w.a.t. team, and that was more than 20 years ago, columbine, and police have learned a whole lot since then and everybody knows they don't wait any longer. and yet these -- someone made the decision to wait and we still don't have answers on exactly what happened and it's very frustrating and no tea teacher -- this man should not have laid there, we learned the lessons, to make that not happen again. shimon, as always, appreciate you staying on this, because it's so important. they want this swept away, they want nobody paying attention. up next, a look at how teachers in another state

prepare for the possibility of school shootings. they're getting active shooting training as part of a simulation drill. we'll have more details on that ahead.

just before the break, i mentioned a teacher at columbine who was killed, it's dave sanders, i apologize for that, he was shot to death, bled out while waiting for police to get into the school. just before the break, we heard from the uvalde, texas, teacher who was wounded at robb elementary last month, the only one in his classroom to survive. since then, there have been renewed calls to arm teachers across much. in some states, including utah, teachers and support staff can be armed if they follow certain rules. gary tuchman attended a class in utah. this is a drill, but it's tough to watch. here's gary's report. >> reporter: katie hopkins is in training, but not to be a cop or a security guard. katie is a school teacher. she teaches p.e. and health at a middle school in utah. and because of all the school shootings in this country -- >> it's super sad that it could happen anywhere.

>> reporter: she's considering taking a gun with her to school. >> you just want to make sure you're not interrupting the slide right here, because if you do, it will make it so it won't fire. >> reporter: katie is taking a six-week course created by the utah county sheriff's office. to train teachers and other school employees to deal with the possibility of an active shooter coming into their schools. >> where the shooter is pointing the gun, everywhere else around them, they are vulnerable to attack. >> reporter: more than 40 educators are taking the six-week long teacher's academy, which includes lessons like disarming an attacker. here's katie taking her turn. >> all right, you hear him breach the door. as soon as you see that muzzle breach, there you go. >> reporter: some of the employees say they do plan to bring a gun to school. but it appears that most like katie are still just considering it. either way, utah law permits it. so, the sheriff who created the program says since it's allowed, he wants teachers to get the proper training. >> we don't want them to do our

jobs. we want them to lock down. but at the end of the day, if you confront a gunman, they are there to kill you and your students. what's your plan? and so the whole purpose of this school was to help them develop that plan. >> you know he's there, stay on him. >> keep your gun right off. >> the scene is a school, you will see actors playing the students perpetrators. the teacher partnering with her are taught to shoot if de- escalation doesn't work and they have to shoot.

>> look all around. look everywhere. look everywhere. good. good. keep alert. keep watching. katie and emily are told there is also a hostage situation in the library and are reminded try to de-escalate. >> put the gun down. let her go. put the gun down and we will talk. we can help you. >> what do i do then? >> let her go. put your arms down, drop the gun. put the gun down. drop the gun. >> good job. >> how come you did not shoot him? >> there was not a clear shot.

a clear target. >> there was only two times were he poked his head out, are you good enough? >> you did what you had to do to talk to and as long as he is talking he is not killing. >> the scenarios are intense with constant reminders things could go very badly for any well-meaning person firing a gun. >> your children are in school, would you be comfortable with one of the teachers you are training having a gun in your child's class? >> yes. she tells us she will finish this course, get additional training and is now leaning more towards bringing a gun to school. >> do you think you could save lives by having a gun? >> after today, i think so. i would hope so. definitely.

>> anderson the six weeks course comes to an end they will get a chance to go in the sheriff's office firing range it will be the first time during this class they shoot live ammunition. several of the teachers like katie told me they will finish this course then take additional training. the new school year starts in less than a month and a half the middle of august. >> thank you, still to come a look at the pending senate primary for republicans in arizona. and if the candidate can win to help his benefactor get a stronger hold at the party at large. if anyone objects to this marriage... (emu squawks) kevin, no! not today. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ is this where your grandparents cut a rug, with a jitterbug? or returned from war, dreaming of the possibilities ahead. ♪ where your dad waited for his dad to come home from the factory.

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early voting started in arizona for the august 2 primary. the endorsement of the leading candidates in the senate race there, like masters and reports masters is a far cry from the republicans who have won in the past. >> young, energetic and ultraconservative. u.s. senate candidate blake masters pledges he is part of a new generation of republicans. >> it starts with a few of us and it will be a different ballgame. >> the 35-year-old first-time candidate is a front runner in a bitter and expensive primary battle. cutting a tech flare masters touts some far right abuse. >> this is designed. >> he downplays january 6.

>> it was not an insurrection this was trespassing. >> repeats the great replacement theory. >> what the left wants to do is change the demographics of this country, they want to do that so they can consolidate power and so they can never lose another election. >> and is an election denier. that helped land donald trump's endorsement. >> blake masters has my total endorsement. >> why am i for blake? very energetic and young and bright. >> supporters see masters carving a new path for republicans in a state that elected senators like john mccain and jeff flake. >> he represents the younger generation and that's what we need. >> he comes from and got endorsed by people, i think that's a great thing. >> masters is a protcgc of peter teal, silicon valley tech

billionaire and republican kingmaker there multimillion dollar campaign donations. teal dropped 10 million into the ohio senate campaign. he went on to win the republican ballot. he also plowed 13 million into masters, and venture capitalist trying to win over a ma ga base. >> i think he is great. okay and you know what i am proud of peter. >> it looks like he walked right out of the campus at google. that's not something republican conservatives are used to. republican party is having a difficult time catching up to what the definition of conservative is and i think we are feeling the heart of that. >> the last thing we need to take on big tech is somebody from big tech. >> another leading contender is jim lamon, attacking him on claims he is but hold and .

>> he is the puppet of california big tech. >> is it possible for you to win the nomination without trumps the backing? >> absolutely, the people in the state realize that the president hasn't always made the right decisions. he made a bad one in this particular case. i will put on my big boy pants and get our message out. >> the rest of the field are a part of arizona's past. >> we talked a lot about bringing new blood and vision to the senate, tell me about that. >> average age in the senate? 64 1/2, i think we need to get new fight and energy. we will have a young dynamic america first caucus. >> cnn, phoenix, arizona. >> and the race goes on the news continues in cnn tonight. i am casey hunt and this is