this is gps, welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world, coming to you from new york city. today on the program, the assassination of japan's former prime minister, shinzo abe. shot in broad daylight, in a country with almost no gun homicide. we will explore the murder and his legacy. then, after a stunning series

of resignations from his cabinet, boris johnson finally admits it is time to go. >> i want you to know how sad i am to be giving up the best job in the world. >> what happens now? i will ask former top conservative party official, camilla. also, vladimir putin, the 99- year-old former secretary of state has met with the russian leader perhaps more than any other american. as the war in ukraine continues to rage, what the west and the world needs to know about that man's intentions. and, space, the final frontier. for international conflict and perhaps even war. i will talk to general john

raymond, chief of the united states space force. but first, here is my take. it is a famous saying that no military plan survives its first contact with the animal. the greatest fear is on war, often explaining that strategy must be dynamic. constantly changing, and rejuvenating itself. in his famous treatise on war, he wrote that some generals consider only unilateral action where as work consists of a continuous interaction of opposites. the west needs to take these lessons to heart in its struggle with russia and adjust its strategy, which is currently in danger of failing. the core of the west strategy has been to prompt, to pride ukraine with arms, training, and money, and to impose massive sanctions on russian forces, that basic idea still makes sense, but the balance needs to change. it is now clear that the

economic war against russia is not working nearly as well as people thought it would. vladimir putin cares less about what these sanctions due to the russian people than he does about what they do to the russian state. and thanks to rising energy prices, bloomberg projects that the russian government will make considerably more revenue from oil and gas that it did before but the war, around $285 billion and 88 two compared to 236 billion in 2021. meanwhile europe is facing its worst energy crisis in 50 years. the basic problem with the economic war against russia as i have argued before, is that it is toothless because it cannot sanction all russian energy. the russian economy is fundamentally an energy economy, revenues from oil and gas alone, make up almost half the government's budget.

unfortunately, the solution would not be for the west to stop buying russian energy altogether because with less supply on the market, it would only drive prices even higher. having developed a dangerous dependence on russian energy over the last two decades, europe cannot quickly change that without plunging into a deep and projected jessen recession. look what is happening on the content weird natural gas prices are 700% higher than they were at the beginning of last year. on july 11, the pipeline through which germany gets most of its russian gas, it is scheduled to close for maintenance. it is possible that putin will decide to punish the west and germany by not letting it reopen, if so, germany, europe's largest economy will almost certainly go into a recession. putin strategy appears to be imposed costs on the west, and play for time assuming that

cracks in the coalition against him will grow as economic pain in these countries grows. western countries are still not treating this challenge as a paramount priority. the netherlands has a huge gas field, but it is actually slowing down production. germany still will not reverse its self-defeating phaseout of nuclear energy. the biden administration is still making it harder to finance long-term investments in natural gas and oil. it also can't seem to find a way to restore the iran nuclear deal, a move that would bring an enormous influx of new oil supplies onto the war market, and almost certainly stabilize the price. i understand, there are valid objections and concerns with all of these policies. but the priority has to be to defeat vladimir putin. meanwhile, putin's real vulnerabilities on the military front, the russian army has expanded its control in the

region of ukraine but at great cost, thousands of russian soldiers have died, it's supplies are dwindling and most importantly, writing it very tough to get new recruits. the economist reports that the russian government is having a hard time filling the ranks and is offering new recruits nearly tripled the medium wage. russia is suffering heavy losses a military that would be difficult to replace especially when they require sophisticated technology, almost all of which it use to import from the west and its allies. recently, secretary of commerce, gina romano revealed that captured russian equipment is being found to contain computer chips that were taken out of refrigerators and dishwashers. western leaders should recognize that economic sanctions simply will not work in a timeframe that makes any sense. they should try to increase as much of the supply of energy

worldwide as they can, but also, dialback those sanctions that are clearly causing more pain to the west fan to russia. meanwhile, they should amp up the military support to ukraine erring on the side of taking more risks. freeing up the blockade around odessa for example would be a huge economic win for ukraine and a shattering symbolic defeat for russia. winter is coming. homes in europe might not have enough heat. troops in ukraine will find it much harder to dislodge russians once the snow blankets the land. time is not on our side. go to cnn.com for a link to my washington post column this weekend let's get started. >> it was stunning to hear that japan is former prime minister, shinzo abe, had been assassinated. stunning that this important leader of japan and key friend of america was dead, stunning

that he was killed by a gun in a country with absolutely stringent gun control and very low gun homicide rates. he has been the country's longest tenured p.m. serving nine years total in two separate terms. when i interviewed him in 2014, i found him to be direct, and frank. i want to bring in ian, the president of the group who knew shinzo abe for more than a decade, pretty well, ian, welcome, first, tell us just what are your thoughts about him as a human being, as a man, what kind of a person was he, what struck you most? >> charismatic, direct, he was someone that when you met with him, he was quite warm, i mean, and in conversation, he would occasionally touch you, on the arm or the shoulder or the back depending on where you were situated, which is almost unheard of, and japanese

society, especially when you talk about official meetings. i remember the first time he did it, i was a little bit stunned, i don't know if you would call it plutonium back in the day or ronald reagan asked but that was kind of who he was, and this is also a man that you know, had a second chance in politics after his first term ended sort of ignominiously with the health challenges and that almost never happens in japan as well. he cut a unique figure politically in the country, as well as having so much more of a platform and a profile for japan internationally and almost anyone that knew him well experience that directly. >> he was very well known internationally as you say, and also within japan, came from a very distinguished political family, he was also kind of controversial, he was more of a nationalist, his opponents would say, he was even a militarist because he wanted to amend japan's constitution and allow it to have a proper

military, with those really controversial positions in japan? >> they were somewhat controversial, especially, keep in mind, so shinzo abe had his best relationship in the world, was probably with modi, they liked each other, he thought it was very important to have a stronger union of democracies in the region, because personally, he was very concerned about the rise of china, more so than any other japanese high-level leader i had ever met, when you mentioned china to him, he would literally get more stiff. you could see the vein in his neck bulging a bit. he was worried that china was as it was getting larger, as it was militarizing, it was a direct threat not just for a country like taiwan, but also to japan directly, and that became the beginning of what is today, the quad, which shinzo abe really got started, he is

the one that made the transpacific partnership really happen, when obama couldn't get it done for the united states, and he is the one that wanted to change the country's constitution, to help japan re- militarize and not just focus on national self-defense, i mean those were not unheard of positions in japan, but he was certainly the most senior inarticulate and strongest proponent of those positions and it made a real difference. >> what do you think you know, this is a gun violence, which is unheard of in japan, we have 40 or 50,000 gun deaths a year, they have you know, there are years when they have two or three, what do you think this does to the japanese psyche? >> i think it is a shock. i think it is a jfk moment for japan, it is literally that cataclysmic, the entire 2021 japan had one violent gun death non-suicide in the country, in

the united states, we had 220 last weekend. it is unheard of. you have to keep in mind, that japan is the most politically stable and the most consolidated of the g-7 democracies, it is very homogeneous, it is almost the single party democracy, the liberal democratic party which prime minister shinzo abe was in charge of, back in the day, they went almost every election, and they are about to again, today. because, he will benefit, the sitting prime minister from the country coming together. this will not be a moment that this unites or fragments japanese society, it will be a moment that brings the country closer together, they will be shocked but they will also feel as one, i mean frankly the last moment we have had like that in the united states, i hate to say it, was probably 9/11.

>> your point about america, i have been thinking, imagine something like this happen in america. i feel like it would not bring this country together. it would further the divisions. >> we have seen that frankly with the pandemic, so much red versus blue, masking versus non- masking, vaccinated versus anti- vaccinated, in japan last week even outside 80% of the population was wearing a mask in 100 degree weather in tokyo, record-setting, inside, it was literally everyone and that is because they are focused, as a community, there is a civic culture and even if you don't really like the rules yourself, you care about your neighbor, you care about your countrymen, and so you just kind of go along to get along, and you are right, if this were to happen in the united states right now, god forbid, you have to imagine that the political outrage would be as deeply divided, as the country today. >> ian, always a pleasure,

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>> at prime ministers questions in parliament on wednesday, boris johnson was steadfast, he would not resign, despite a swiftly growing list of resignations by his top officials. a day later, johnson stepped out of 10 downing street and offered his resignation. bringing to a close, his three- year tenure at the top, one filled with scandals and some

successes. i want to bring in camilla, who ran prime minister david cameron's policy unit, and is now a columnist for the financial times. camilla, welcome. i want to ask you, first whether at some level, this is the theme of boris johnson's career, seems to have been enormous political skill, but marked by what i suppose one politely would call dissembling, he got fired from his first job at the daily telegraph for dissembling a quotation he made up, he dissembled about brexit, lots of the anecdotes and facts he presented were simply not true, he dissembled about party gait, and now, it seems like he dissembled even to his own cabinet about what he knew about this latest controversy. was it that people just finally lost the trust in him that you

need? >> well, he was revolutionary and in government, he has never been able to switch from essentially campaigning, to governing. this is really the tragedy of boris johnson actually, is he continue to be interested in headlines, and as you say, to dissemble, mainly sometimes on quite trivial issues and sometimes just for an agenda, but ultimately i am afraid, it has all been about him. that is what happened this week, the penny finally dropped and it was enough, the issue that was the last straw, was the dissembling over a man who appeared to be a sexual predator who had been employed by johnson but as you say, this was only one of a very long series of things, which ministers attached to him. many of the people who finally snapped on monday and tuesday and went to him and said you have got to go where people who have been out on the airwaves,

for a year, defending, all sorts of things that then turned out not to be true. and they have had enough. >> looking forward, the consumer doesn't have a huge majority from 2019, many people point out it would be hard to lose that majority in one election, in other words, conservative party could be looking to another six, seven years of a ruling. is there some figure who can bring the various factions together, particularly the other ones that had been so at odds over breakfast? >> the coalition that boris johnson built, you are right, the big question for the conservative party is can anyone keep that together? i think really, the bigger question is, can the next leader sort of smooth over britain's relationships with its allies, begin to rebuild trust in politics, because trust in politics has been so damaged by all of these episodes, and

also, trust in the institutions, so there are a huge number of candidates who are going to run. there are several big figures, the chancellor has declared that he will stand, jeremy hunt, who was has selkirk terry -- health secretary, ran against him and got to the second place last time and has been outside of cabinet, he will also run and he is interesting because he is not tarnished in any way by the johnson news. >> would it be fair to say that economically, the verdict is in, brexit has been bad for britain economically. you have terrible inflation, which tends to happen when you have, you know you have higher cost of goods, because you left the european union, slowing growth, britain looks like not quite the sick man of europe but suddenly the weakest of the major economies. >> yes, for a while, it was hard to disaggregate the effects of

the covid-19 pandemic from the effects of brexit. i think we can now see exactly as you say, that we are way behind in terms of growth, a lot of small businesses, and we have to remember that there were various possible ... boris johnson chose to leave, and i think the polls in england are showing that the voters are also realizing that this has not been a very good deal for the country. >> what do you think at the end of the day his legacy is? >> look, i think he is a superb politician, he was a household name, people called him boris, he was a great mayor of london, he has a way with words, that he connects with people. his downfall really was that he appears to be a narcissist who even now can't accept why people want him to go. that will really tarnish his

legacy. whatever you think about him, he did take britain out of the eu, and he did create a very significant conservative majority, and you know, those things will get down in history. >> is there any larger lesson in johnson's fall about populism and what happens to, you know, because he was a kind of populist, when you have to actually govern,. >> there are a lot of analogies john between boris johnson and donald trump. i don't like to overdo that. i think you know, he has played some of the same tunes and he has been too obsessed with

focus groups and he has sadly been very divisive. britain really came together in the pandemic. people looked out for each other. we felt more connected than we had been ever since the brexit , he could've capitalized on that, instead of which he started fighting cultural wars, trying to build division against the opposition and i said that is because he is still campaigning. he was in a permanent a lectionary mode. the next leader has to be someone who is much more serious about simply delivering good government for the country. >> camilla, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. >> next, on gps, kissinger on putin. the 99-year-old former secretary of state has met with the russian leader around 15 times. what the west needs to understand about putin's mindset. back in a moment. we're carvana

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my next guest, has been a controversial figure since his days as national security advisor, then secretary of state under richard nixon. at 99, he is still stirring up controversy with his recent comments about how to end the war in ukraine. he is the author of the new book, leadership six studies and world strategy, it is a terrific book, well worth reading. henry kissinger, pleasure to have you on. >> pleasure to be here. >> the book is terrific. i have read it, and really really enjoyed it. i couldn't recommended more to people, but i'm going to start by talking about a leader who is not profiled in this book. how many times have you met vladimir putin?

>> maybe 15. >> these are long almost always one-on-one meetings? >> yes. always one-on-one. and putin for the first time when he was deputy mayor of st. petersburg, and i had no idea who he was. and he was talking about the then occurring collapse of the empire, of the soviet empire, and he said this is one of the great tragedies of history. because it will create endless trouble and new definitions of borders and of influence. but, it was at that time, an

interesting conversation. >> when you think about putin as a leader, if you were to analyze him in the way that you have analyzed the leaders in this book, what is the thing that strikes you most strongly about putin? >> he is passionate, almost a mystical view of the nature of russia. he is very intelligent, very analytical, quite aloof, but on one occasion, he said to me, some days, i think i knew everything. and other days, i think i know nothing. it is not something leaders would usually say. and conversations.

but it indicates the inner struggle he was going through, and dealing with both the domestic evolution, and his perception of the foreign challenge. >> when you say you know, he is very analytic, that has also been my experience in the few times i have met him, so what explains, he also seems careful , what explains this very bold, almost reckless move in ukraine? >> i wouldn't have expected it, i thought when he concentrated trips around ukraine, it was for bargaining, and i wouldn't have been surprised if he had taken slides, but to attack the whole country and try to reincorporate it, you can interpret it in one of two ways. the way it is generally

interpreted, it is that he wanted to reconstruct the empire. but, you could also interpret it as a recognition. of growing a relative weakness that the domestic situation is not evolving very rapidly. and here, the west is approaching ukraine, and i think that i interpreted it to myself, as much as the last act to show that there were limits to what they could tolerate. >> you proposed that ukraine may clear that it does not intend to go further than the february 24 lines, in other words that it wanted to reverse russia's aggression this year, but not go further?

and that became somewhat controversial. >> i said a dividing line for ending the war. it should be the status quo. >> right, of a return to the february 24 situation. >> that is still very substantial for the russians. >> you are saying, i want to be clear, you are saying you do not believe that it will be easy to get the russians back to those lines, in other words, reversing the aggression of this year? >> it would be very difficult. but i think it has to be our detective, because when there are negotiations, if it acquires all of the done bus and the section of the black she -- black c, in the end, nato could

not protect a friendly country. >> the problem of ukraine fundamentally, is it seems to me, that the ukrainians sort of reject entirely, this, what you call, the mystic russian narrative, they see themselves as formerly part of the west, they want to be a liberal democracy, they want to be the capitalist society, they want to be allied with the west, can putin live with that? >> well, before the war, i would've said no. and i warned against incorporating ukraine into nato, 10 years ago. and predicted it would lead to some sort of conflict. but, the solution that i had then, was to make ukraine a bridge between europe and russia.

it is not possible now, after the destruction, and for the attack, now ukraine, whether formally or not is part of europe, and that will be a very hard decision, and it may not be putin who makes the decision. it may not be putin who survives that decision. >> next on gps, i will ask henry kissinger weather january 6 was a bigger deal than watergate. >> that is coming up. hmm... back to the miro b board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. "shoot it, camera, shoot a movie!" and so our humble team saves the day by working together.

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so, when i talked to david recently, we were talking about leadership, and i asked him about nixon. he said the lesson i draw from richard nixon's experience was, he is one of the smartest people ever to have occupied the white house, but he had internal demons. and unless you have dealt with your internal demons, you know, they will in some way, come up. do you agree with that? >> the nixon i knew, had a capacity for making extremely courageous decisions. and was a great patriot about the purposes of america. but, he also was driven by a sense of insecurity, in which, he found it very difficult to

give orders to somebody he knew disagreed with him. so, he did have these demons, where they came from, i don't know. but, what i do know and experienced, is that in the big decisions, in which, the security of america depended, he made the right decision, but from what i saw, and what he honored me by letting me participate in and help and guide some of it, he was a strong president. with a big flaw, which destroyed him. >> when you look at what happened on january 6, it seems bigger than watergate, or no?

>> watergate was primarily, i mean the legal aspect of watergate was the obstruction of justice. and the cover up. the other things were, they were sensitive, january 6, the attempt to undo a recognized election results by a president, that was unprecedented, and hopefully will never be repeated. >> when you look forward, and you think, let's say you are 105, six years from now, do you think that you know, is this

something like the populism, the attacks on democracy, is this a phase where we have gotten through it, or are we spiraling downward? >> well, what bothers me, is even say in the vietnam period, when i was in war, and i thought life was tough, and it was, but the critics and the majority, were believers in the system. they disagreed about the policy, and were very passionate about it, and it was not easy. but, now, the domestic dispute seems to be more about the country itself, and that is a debate that makes it very hard to move from it, to a

compatible vision of the future. >> henry kissinger, always a pleasure. next, on gps, i will interview the man who runs america's newest military branch. the space force. general john raymond will tell us why in space, just as on earth, the u.s. faces many threats. gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues.s. there's no question it's somemething that i wouldld recommend.

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>> on december 20, 2019, then- president donald trump signed a defense spending act that included within it, a provision to create the country's sixth military branch. the u.s. space force. despite some late-night ribbing about the name of the force, its logo and its uniforms, the forces mission is actually very simple and deadly serious.

to protect the united states and allied interests in space. that becomes increasingly important as major tensions dominate u.s. relations with both russia and china. nations with ever more powerful space programs. i want to welcome the head of the space force, general john raymond, to gps, for an exclusive interview. general, thanks for coming on. >> thank you very much for having me. i am really excited to be here. >> we know about the tensions on earth, we know about the tensions between you know, with russia, with china, if we were to look up in space, what would we see, would we see some kind of a mirror image of those tensions that we have on earth? >> let me just start by saying that the u.s. has been a spacefaring nation since the 1950s, and that status of being a spacefaring nation gives us great advantage, space underpins all of our instruments to

national power whether it is diplomatic information, military, or economic. and it is a domain of competition, just like all other domains, air, land, and see. as you were to look up in space, you would see a domain that has changed pretty significantly over the last couple decades. a domain that has become much more congested, and the numbers of objects that we are tracking, close to 50,000, just a few years ago i would've told you it was only about 22,000 and the numbers of satellites that are up in space have gone from about 1500 a couple years ago, to almost 5000 today, we see increased competition, we see an increase contested nature of the domain. >> every now and then, are you sure about the russians and the chinese blowing up a satellite? which i have always assumed was a kind of, i don't know, warning or you know, showing off the capacity to take down

satellites, the u.s. obviously has the most critical ones, how do you read those explosions? >> first of all i read them as being very reckless and irresponsible behavior. the space domain is a domain for global use and it provides great opportunity for the nation to the world, and what we have seen is a spectrum of threats that have materialized over the last decade or so, everything from reversible jamming, of communication satellites and gps satellites, to directed energy threats, think lasers that can blind or dazzle satellites, to mitchell -- to destroying satellites which is what you just mentioned. russia did that back in this past november. where they launched a missile and blew up a satellite in lower orbit to a little over 1500

pieces of debris. we are still tracking that debris. we are still warning folks across the globe to react as a space traffic control, to make sure people don't hit that, we protect the international space station along with our partners at nasa and we found that behavior very reckless and very irresponsible. >> the big thing here is of course china, which is completing a big space station, tell us about that, and how would you rate china's space capabilities? >> they have come a long way in a very short period of time. i would say china is going 0 to 60, very fast. it wasn't too long ago, that they didn't have significant space capabilities, and today, they do. so, god forbid if deterrence were to fail and we were to get into a conflict and our desire is not to, we want to deter that conflict from happening. if we did, we would be up against the same space capabilities and the same advantages that we currently enjoy.

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