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capture back russian -controlled territory. they made some small advances in the course of the last month. in the meantime -- it does seem they are using a longer-range weaponry to the effect today. we heard the blast while watching kids skateboarding in a skate park. they didn't even stop for a second and kept on skating. >> thank you for watching. up next the wildcard. he's going to testify before the committee. will it happen and will he turned the proceedings into a total circus? zeroing in on the direct ties to extremists. the age-old boy who was paralyzed after being shot in the july 4th shooting is undergoing surgery. we will have an update on his condition tonight. never before seen image. coming in out of the our
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universe from the nasa department. we will tell you how old and how far away it is. more of that. >> good evening. long time trump allies suddenly reversing course and saying he is now willing to testify before the committee. this is really stunning. he refused for months to appear even though he has had a subpoena. the justice department calls it a stunt and says his sudden wish to testify is not a genuine effort to meet his obligations but a last-ditch attempt to avoid accountability. he of course was the one who said this the day before the insurrection. >> all is going to break loose tomorrow. all is going to break loose tomorrow. >> loud and proud to anyone who
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would listen. robert reported he was also the one who convinced trump to come back to washington. so he can attend the rally in person. they quote him messing you have to return to washington. people are going to say what is going on here? it is unclear if he will appear in this stunt. if he does, whether he will turn the proceedings into a circus because of course he will mock the very premise of the hearings. it will air tomorrow for the first time. the much-anticipated task. it takes place under subpoena. we are going to see part of that tomorrow. the rest of the witness list of who will appear tomorrow is a mystery. it's a concern for witness intimidation. sources tell us they will use tomorrow's hearing to draw a
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direct link between extremist groups like the proud boys and oath keepers and people inside of trump's inner circle. some of those connections were with roger stone. the former national security advisor pool when he actually did testify before the committee answered basic questions like this. >> do you believe the violence on january 6 with justified? >> can i get clarification? >> asking both. >> do you believe the violence was justified morally?
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>> i plead the fifth. >> do you think it was justified legally? >> fifth. >> do you believe in the peaceful transition of the power in the united states of america? >> the fifth. >> that was not something that you need to plead the fifth on in any situation. it's pretty unbelievable. he obviously didn't want to talk but more and more people are talking. as these hearings have unfolded -- a source close to the committee says it is receiving new information on what they deem important information on a daily basis. it's so important that it got incorporated into their plans. that hearing was considered for thursday night. it was expected to focus on what trump was doing and not doing during the 197 minutes. the actual attack itself. members of the committee have described his behavior during those minutes as a dereliction
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of duty. let's start with tomorrow. what are you learning the committee has ready for tomorrow? i understand we will hear some of what he set. otherwise it seems we are in the dark. tell me about tomorrow and this hearing that is not happening on thursday night now. >> it will focus on the planning underway by those extremist groups. that's in the days leading up to january 6th. the violence that occurred at the hands of some of those members as well as the ties they had for some of the closest associates. a long time associate. the former white house national security advisor. that's part of the discussion and they will focus on a meeting that occurred in mid- december. it's a discussion about seizing and appointing a special counsel. they have been trying to draw
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the connection from a tweet that occurred and how that tweet set up a change of events that led to the planning buy some of these groups that are planning to run up on january 6 tying it directly to trump's actions itself. we will hear from live witnesses. that is jason. he's a former spokesperson. he told a colorado tv station last week i did get a lot of inside access. we do expect to hear about that. we could also expect to hear more about the white house counsel. the underdog at the time of the attack told the committee behind closed doors we testified for more than eight hours. we will see some video clips from that as well. it could also spill into next week's hearing. it's expected to happen on thursday. it's delayed until next week. more information is being learned by the committee. >> thank you very much.
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the former trump white house associate counsel and former fbi special agent from our assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. let me start where he finished. he's talking about this hearing that was expected and now it gets delayed because so much information is coming in. it was supposed to focus on the 187 minutes of the attack and what he was doing and that explicit and very defined period of time. what you make of this delay? >> to get it right and get it? -- it will be the last of this initial series of hearings. i understand the desire. let's get all of our evidence and make sure we do it right. you do have to be wary of losing the momentum. when i used to try cases and federal courts in new york, sometimes someone would get sick. you would have to delay your travel 3-4 days. that would make me nuts is the prosecutor. you lose the momentum with the
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jury. this set of hearing started on june 9th and it's going to go into late july. that's a long time to keep attention and momentum. >> it's like the book you liked. if you go back, you have to remind yourself of where the plot line is. >> you forget things too. >> exactly. they are expected tomorrow that this one is going to focus in on connections between the trump administration and some of the extremist groups that were present and the proud boys obviously. they have declined to say which witnesses are going to testify tomorrow. they are specifically citing security concerns so -- they have previously made public some messages. they call it witness tampering. they were essentially threatened are told not to show up. you know the former president. what do you make of this?
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>> i think they are going on past practice. there were some threats that came through. we don't know who they were tied to or who was pushing them. the bottom line is, there were real threats made and death threats made. and really happens in cases where you have violent criminals. mobic cases those kinds of things. they are taking it seriously. the last thing we want to have as a witness in some type of danger. i do believe it's wise for them to do that. >> the context here is how close and clear are the connections? i know prior some information had come out. one of the senior leaders was on the phone with someone close to trump and that person did not actually hand him the phone. that's one of the details we have. the question is, how close and clear are these ties? do you think they are going to tighten that not?
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>> it's a little -- >> go ahead i will bring you in. >> go. i'm sorry. >> sorry about that. >> the question is going to be how many links in the chain they can establish between these militia groups. and going up to trump. if you look at the indictments for these groups especially the oath keepers that were charged with conspiracy. they understood at that day. they had a preplanned role which was to take over and they had a cache of arms and supplies to last them for 30 days. they were there to pressure lawmakers and the vice president and they understood they were waiting for some kind of signal from president trump. the question is -- from the other side -- where was this being communicated from? it was being communicated by someone. there was coordination there. my question is to your point can they make it all the way to trump himself? he is a famously savvy non-
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communicator if you will. he doesn't use email or text. he's about talking in code among his inner circle. i would be very interested to see how far they can take it. >> what is your view of that? >> i look at it the same way. they're trying to find some type of link right there. a lot of times when you are running a grand jury you will know a lot of the answers to those questions. i don't believe the congressional folks know all the answers to these questions they are going to ask going into it. it's a different situation but they are going to look for that. >> he has been fighting a subpoena for months and is now saying i will come in. it appears to be a mockery of the process. however the president comes out and says i'm going to wave my privilege. it's not his to waive. that would reside with the
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current president to wave it. then trump's attorney told him he never actually got executive privilege in this case. what is going on here? >> i'm a skeptic. he's not a believer in this instance. here's what i think is happening. they want to set up this spectacle and say okay i will come in and testify under oath. they're never going to do that. that enables him to play the martyr and say they are not -- we tried. we were so eager. i think this is also a flimsy effort to beef up his defense which starts a week from today. the judge rejected all of that today and shut it down. what he was hoping for was a defense along the line of how can you convict me for contempt if i can justify? >> he's been fighting a subpoena for months and months. it seems absurd. what do you make of this?
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do you make of this right now? >> you don't have to go much further than listen to those radio shows that he will go in there with a very aggressive posture. he's going to be on the offense on that side of the ball. he is a witness that is going to go in and testify now. if he goes in and pleads the fifth we can think that is his way of saying i went in and testify. if he goes and aggressively and not with what i expect him to do -- it's to go in aggressively. >> do you think that will happen? >> know. i don't think he will want to testify unless he can do it publicly. the committee really has the leverage here. he is no longer able to use this i'm complying to muddy the waters in terms of his defense for the trial.
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it can only help him with his sentencing. there are a lot of risks for him to go and testify whether it is publicly are not under oath because the committee has so much information. all of this information that if he tries to up his game or life , he can then end up walking into yet another crime. perjury or making false statements. i think that he has got some big choices to make in terms of that to move forward. >> thank you very much. don't miss a special report on steve. divided we fall it is sunday night at 8:00. of course those hearings are tomorrow. we will be here for that. investigators digging into what the parents knew before the attack. seven people were killed. that is coming up next. 64% of democrats do not want him to be the nominee.
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the eight-year-old boy paralyzed after being shot at the highland park fourth of july parade is undergoing surgery for a damaged esophagus. a spokesperson adding that he now knows he is paralyzed and is in a great deal of physical and emotional pain. it comes as large crowds gathered today a week after the deadly shooting in which seven were killed and dozens were wounded. adrian is out front. what more are you hearing from the members of the community tonight? >> good evening to you. people here tell me they are taking it one day at a time. everyone is dealing with their grief in various ways. some have shown up to this memorial which is right behind me. i will step out of the way because i really want those of you watching and listening at home to take a look. this is the newest memorial that popped up over the weekend. now that the parade route is back open. here you see the seven faces of
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all of the deceased. a local artist has created these portraits and he says he wants to give them to members of the family. i spoke with another woman who saw the shooter and witnessed people dying in front of her. she's no longer in town. she had to get out of town to clear her mind and she has utilized some of the resources here in the city including counseling. one mom we talked to said her children are still afraid. >> they are scared and terrified. they hid in the basement for a whole day when we got home. we drove through chicago yesterday and my son was looking at the rooftops to make sure nobody was on the rooftops and -- a 10-year-old shouldn't have to say or think of such things. >> reporter: the family of cooper roberts is telling us they left the eight-year-old
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over the weekend knowing he is no longer able to walk. the spokesperson telling us he is still in a great deal of physical and emotional pain. meanwhile -- the road to recovery for cooper is a long one and some of the other victims too. those who were released from the hospital as well as their families. >> thank you very much. terrific to hear that story. for more on this i want to bring in george gomez. he's the attorney for the family of the accused highland shooter. i appreciate your time and i want to start by asking you some of the questions for the family. i will start right at the heart of the matter. why the father sponsored his son for a firearms permit even after the police said he had made both homicidal and suicidal threats. you said you are confident that
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neither of the parents will face any criminal charges but in that context, sponsoring that license even after those rights remain, why you have that confidence. >> his father in actuality consented for his son to go through the process of giving him the cards. the sun still has to go through the process and get various background checks. i don't know the details of how that process works but nonetheless -- the illinois state police department reviewed the police reports from 2018 and they still found that the sun was eligible for a card. in regards to the 2019 police reports -- like i already stated before, the parents have already disputed the accuracy of those reports. especially that of september 2019. according to the parents -- the
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police were called based on a domestic dispute. they dispute that son had ever commented about trying to kill himself or any type of suicide or even trying to kill anyone in the household. if you look at the police reports it does state he denied ever trying to harm somebody and trying to harm himself. >> okay. when those reports came in -- i understand your think they dispute the nature of them. when they came in, there was one in april that was suicidal. that was the homicidal one you are taking issue with. at that time when the police came, the father handed over eckstein knives in the home. a dagger and a samurai blade to local police. the local police found it so disturbing they told them he is a clear and present danger. that was about the son. i think everybody in this
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country look at this and say -- 16 knives, a dagger in a samurai sword. you can dispute the nature of some of them but how is it possible that those parents didn't think it was possible there was something deeply wrong with his son? >> those collections were actually collectibles. that's what the parents have stated before. there is nothing in the report were they state it was used. the question was, was there any weapons in the home? obviously as they cooperated with authorities they provided any weapons that were there. they interpret that is that a collection. at the end of the day they assessed the situation and they
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provided those collectibles back. >> they did provide them. no one is saying they didn't. i'm not even asking you about his social media because it's understandable when parents don't know about that but they certainly did know about the picture painted on the side of his mother's house. even after the shooting -- the father told the new york post his son was merely expressing his art and", didn't need anything. again -- the preponderance of things that were happening here in -- a picture on the side of the house. homicidal and suicidal threats. you can question each of them in any context you want but if you add them up -- people look at this and see seven people dead and that eight-year-old boy and say if the father sponsored that -- maybe something would have been different.
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why isn't that the right way to see this? >> i think in hindsight when you look at everything -- of course the father would have never consented for his son. they would have done things differently. if they had known their son would have been able to commit such atrocities in hindsight they would have been able to see and connect the dots at the end of the day. i think this question would probably haunt anyone in that same position. the parents feel terrible for the actions of their son and for the loss of those who lost their lives and for the devastation that it has caused the community. >> i appreciate your time i appreciate you coming on and answering the questions. >> next the father who lost his son interrupting president biden as he celebrated the first safety law passed in the u.s. for decades.
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tonight 63% of democrats say they prefer a candidate other than joe biden to be on the ticket. biden will be just a few weeks shy a couple of weeks shy of his 82nd birthday on election day. it comes as his approval rating remains consistently low which is lower even than trumps was at this point in his presidency. edward isaac. i really appreciate this. you have been over the weekend talking to more and more prominent democrats. tell me what you are hearing about some of these other alternatives that people are throwing out there. who are they?
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what are you hearing? >> some of the names going around are the governor from california. even connor from california. the governor of colorado. i talked to each of them and spoke to people for them. not running against him. there will not be a primary challenge and they also said there should not be a primary challenge from anyone. he said it is important that the party unify and not fall victim to divisions from within. you see that going around with joe biden being in texas earlier today at a fundraiser and she said republicans stick together. democrats are fighting over differences of degree and they can fall apart. that is the sense here, they need to unify behind biden right here at least until we know he is not running but he does say he is running and that seems to be the plan for
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everyone involved. >> you have been talking to people about this overall issue. the biggest reason democrats don't want biden to be their nominee is his age. his age is an absolute fact and it is an objective reality. people's perception of course can be shaped by a lot of things. how much of this age is a serious concern? >> it is a serious concern. he is the oldest president ever. he was the oldest president the day he was sworn in. he will be older by election day and putting him in front of the country at that point and electing him to stay president until he's almost 86 years old -- that is a big deal and one of the concerns that is there beyond just doing the job now is what it would look like to campaign in 2024 when he would be two years older. it's about his time and schedule. this is on a lot of minds in
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addition to just the questions of generationally what the democratic party is and wants to be. >> thank you so much for your reporting. i want to go now to the better democrat james just to respond to this reporting of isaacs and 64% of democrats do not want him who is the democratic president of the united states to be their nominee. let's just take that. it is a data point. it's not forever but it is an important data point. how concerned should he be right now? >> what i think he is doing is concentrating on getting his medicare extended. if he accomplishes those two things -- i know he's going to be working hard on the midterm. right now he will focus on 2022. after that if he has some more successes -- we will do pretty good in the midterm.
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he will evaluate what he's doing. right now he has any indication that other than he's running -- they are pretty adamant about it. >> the minute you signal you are not -- you won't have anything done. i completely understand that strategically. just talk about the issue here that people seem to be so focused on right now. you know him really well. he is always very thoughtful and he said i want to quote his comment here. i do feel it is inappropriate to seek that office after you are 80 or in your 80s. i just turned 80 and i found over the last few years and would have been unwise for me to try to run any organization. you are not quite as sharp as you once were. the age issue of course isn't going to go away. >> it is not going to go away. i suspect they don't much like the story but they will have to
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deal with it and honestly the only way you can deal with it is show accomplishments. again -- god willing i'm going to be 80 on election day. i might catch david before this is over with. and its one thing people can relate to at his age. they are just going to have to deal with this after the midterm. there is no question about it. >> honestly i don't see any evidence of anybody else. you just have to deal with it. >> let me ask you about the context. i want to play something from his event today about the gun legislation passing congress. nothing has been passed in decades on it. to get something is really significant. wasn't anywhere near what the president wanted but it wasn't near what he wanted. he was interrupted in the middle of his speech by the father of a parkland school
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shooting victim. here's what happened. >> we can make progress on dealing with gun violence. >> that was what he could get. it was that or nothing. nonetheless that is the criticism and he is also getting the same criticism for things like what is he doing on abortion? you want to go further and further. not necessarily from the far left. broader then maybe somewhere specific. how big of a challenge is that? >> in today's challenge -- it was sent to biden. that was in 1994. i would be extremely upset by
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this. this gentleman understandably is but we live in a world where practicality is a decision. we have this done decision out of new york state. you know it was quite an accomplishment to get this bill i'll be the first to admit. and was a step in the right direction. i think if you make it into an issue -- the only way you will change this is a voter intervention. that's the only thing that's going to change and i understand -- people are looking out to illinois. let's really the only thing that can change -- and steve voters taking charge. right now i'm sorry. we have a 50-50 sentence in the congressional majority.
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21-year-old this thing he targeted him because of a grudge. suspect is telling investigators i thought that the former prime minister had a close relationship with his group. he made a large donation in my family life is messed up. the suspect has not named a name for the unification church. it released a statement saying the mother at the suspect is a member of that charge. cnn has not confirmed this with the suspects mother. the prime minister was shot and killed. >> reporter: in stunned silence they came to lay flowers and pay their last respects. the people of japan are reeling at the killing of shinzo abe and those prominent politicians , where gun crime is virtually unheard of.
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>> i think he's the greatest prime minister. >> it's unbelievable. i can't believe it happened in japan. i can't believe this is happening in japan. >> this is the moment he was attacked. addressing a campaign rally in the japanese city. >> reporter: the first shot seems to miss. it is the second that proves fatal and causes panic. amend desperate attempts to revive him. this has happened once he said. it could happen again.
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>> everyone here is talking about how utterly shocked they are that anyone let alone someone like him could be gunned down so easily in the streets. unlike in the united states, guns and gun crime here in japan are incredibly rare. want police say motivated the alleged assassin in this killing. that's where the killing took place. it's a deep hatred of what they say was a certain group to which the killer believed he was linked. can we have a look at the damage? just very quickly please? >> reporter: japanese police are still refusing to name that group but we return back from a building where the officers told us the suspect may have testfired his makeshift gun. a blue tarp covers the damage. revealing a south korean group and a unification church as premise right there.
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the church denies he had any formal links but says the mother of his suspected killer is an active member although cnn has been unable to confirm that. police tell cnn the arrested suspect as being cooperative and that he has expressed no regret for his actions. stunned neighbors in his apartment block told us he always seemed a bit weird. he looked miserable he says. when i said hello to him, he never even responded. he seemed in his own little world she says. the world that japan has now forever changed. >> it is so hard to imagine what happened here. what the police said to you about the link between that church? and the murder? the assassination of shinzo
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abe? the killing, the reason for that is the people out there perhaps have shared the animosity and the expected animosity. the expected assassin with this religious organization. >> thank you so much. next, ukraine's million man army. ukraine says they are assembling it right now to try to fight and push russia back.
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u.s. intelligence indicate iran is preparing to provide russia with drones, including capable and ready for use in ukraine. they're assembling an army to fight back and recover the territory it has lost from russia in the south. it is saying they will do this and bolster their offensive with western weapons. the war has no end in sight. this has forced ordinary ukrainian citizens to do extra ordinary things in the name of survival as we are now many months into the incomprehensible. we are out front in kharkiv. >> reporter: in a boarded-up pharmacy in kharkiv, we follow julia down into the basement. they never used this space before the war. now, it holds shelf after shelf of vital donated medicine while also serving another purpose. we are down here. we can hear some heavy shelling
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from up above. that is not very common at this part of the day, mid morning. thankfully, we are already down in the basement, where we need to be. >> that killed at least six city residents. >> yuliya and her team are unfazed. preparing to head out on a monthly visit to multiple frontline villages which desperately need hard to get medicine, medical supplies, and basic baby formula. >> reporter: the pharmacy comes to the village, she says. pharmacies are either destroyed or there are no pharmacists. people need medicine. the lead vehicle in the convoy is an ambulance. when it arrives in the first village, the sirens already ring out. a line has formed in the rain. all retirees, young parents with kids, anyone left here seems to come out. including a village doctor.
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we really need medication. we don't have a local pharmacy. we have nowhere to buy anything, she says. insulin, heart, and blood pressure drugs are at the top of her last along with sedatives and antidepressants. animals are a priority, too. another car is full of dog food for pets. this honor says her pet is shellshocked from all the explosions. this village had been occupied by russian forces, caught between the warring sides. scars of the fighting very visible, as is the russian retreat. when the russians occupied this village, a man who lives here says that they would talk their tanks and armored vehicles between houses and cover them up to try to hide them, but the ukrainians retook the village. they blew up and destroyed this armored vehicle. after about an hour, the team packs up and moves on to a
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poor, rural village just 25 kilometers -- 60 miles -- from the closest russian position. the residents gather around even faster. the profound need for aid is clear. while we are there, a team from world central kitchen arrives to hand out meals. another eager line forms. >> [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: many of the ukrainians we met were forced to live in the basements of their own homes while russians occupied them. yuliya tells us they are helpless, held hostage by this situation, she says. we help because they cannot provide for themselves. cnn in kharkiv. >> thank you. nasa releasing an incredible image from its new satellite. what it reveals is our deepepes view yet to our own past. the stronger, lasts-longer energizer max.
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jaw-dropping image that is decades and $10 billion in the making and 13 billion years. nasa releases the first image from the revolutionary james webb space telescope. what you are looking at right now is light that is 13 billion
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years old. those images is 13 billion light years away. some of these galaxies, these beautiful dots, you can almost feel the motion, right? they're so massive they actually bend light from other galaxies, which you can see in the center of your screen. the light is actually bent. this image is a spec. just to give you perspective, it is a speck of the universe. this picture would be about the size of a grain of sand if you held it up to the sky. talk about perspective. thanks for joining us. ac 360 starts now. good evening. we begin tonight with new reporting on january 6. they plan their seventh hearing tomorrow. cnn confirms that they plan connections between extremist groups and associates roger stone and others. they are also learning about a specific meeting from former white house counsel patsy pallone and what he told them of the last hearing. we saw former