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cnn has confirmed many probes connections between extremist groups and trump associates, roger stone and others. we also bring him a specific mean committee asked former white house counsel pat cipollone about and what he told them. at the last hearing we saw former white house insider, top aide to chief of staff, mark meadows, testified that the former president knew the mob was about to incite and said
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marching into the capital was armed. >> i was in the vicinity of a conversation where the present day something today backed up, i don't care that they have weapons. >> cassidy hutchinson testifying under oath. she testified to the former presidents eagerness to join the mob of the capital. also to the white house councils horror at that prospect and his fear of being charged, according to her, with every crime imaginable. it's hard to imagine after that welcomes text. in a moment committee members, stephanie murphy, will be handling some of the question tomorrow joins us. but first, then you reporting on what to expect tomorrow. also an item justin with the former white house counsel was asked about in testimony on friday. cnn's ryan lewis joins us now with that. so whether you learned about that cipollone's estimating? >> well of course, anderson, everyone wants to know that similarly told committee last week during his 19 deposition. he was with the committee for more than four or seven hours, i should say. and we are told that one of the
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things the committee asked the polonium out was a heated meeting that took place in the trump white house in mid december. it was a gathering of many election deniers were theories were thrown about discussing ways for trump to overturn the election. cipollone was a part of that meeting, and we were told that he described what he viewed as in st. meeting that he did not want to be a part of. now, the question is, will we see part of a deposition during tomorrow's hearing? committee members say we should expect to hear from cipollone as they set the stage for how the extremist groups played in the attempts to overturn the election in the capital y that's looked like sarah jenner sixth. >> cnn has learned that the january six committee is planning to zero in on the key. link and extremist groups ties to trump associates, roger stone and michael flynn. the hearing comes as another key trump ally, steve bannon, is changing his tune. telling the committee he would be willing to testify but only
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in a live public setting. it's a move prosecutors believe is a stunt to try and wiggle out of his criminal contempt charges. but a federal judge on monday declined his request to postpone his trial for next week. >> i expect that we will be hearing from him and there are many questions that we have for. him >> the committee has already revealed a bevy of new information. among the biggest headlines, that trump's allies were made fully aware that there was no evidence the election was stolen. >> i think what's happening with necessarily artist or professional. >> trump knew he lost the election but kept telling his supporters he won. without evidence to back it up. that the campaign to support the will of the voters extended all the way to the states. were trump personally pressured officials to help his efforts. >> you ask me to do something against my oath and i will not break my oath. >> the committee also revealing that trump knew his supporters were armed and planning to be violent. but he directed them to the capitol anyway. >> i never heard the president say some defective, i don't
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care that they have weapons. they are not here to hurt me. take the mags away. let my people in. they can march to the capital from here. that the people. it takes the mags away. >> the committee also uncovering details about trump's efforts to prevent congress's certification of the election. he ignored his advice is that there is no fraud and instead tried to install an attorney general who do his bidding. >> our culture they say, what you are proposing is nothing that's than the united states department meddling in the outcome of the presidential election. >> that bad, jeffrey clark, it's now under scrutiny as part of a federal investigation into the attempts to overturn the election. and finally, as an angry mob called for the assassination of his vice president. witnesses say trump did not seem to be bothered. his response -- the 25th amendment. >> there's a large concern about the 25th amendment.
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potentially being invoked. and there are concerns about would happen in the senate. if it was the 25th >> ryan, would us to expect to hear from tomorrow in terms of testimony? >> but we do know there will be live play this testimony tomorrow, anderson. we now know the names of two individuals that will appear before the committee. one of them will be jason thompson. how is a former spokesperson for the oath keepers. that right wing extremist group that was a part of the activity that took place here on january 6th. now he wasn't a member of the oath keepers. but he described himself as kind of a paid propagandist and knows a lot about the history of the organization. we are learning late tonight of another person that is scheduled to testify and that is steven ayers. he is an individual that is described, in court documents, as part of the proceeding where he ended up pleading guilty to entering the capital illegally essentially being radicalized on the internet and came to believe that donald trump had the election stolen from him. that was part of the reason
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that he came to the capitol on january 6th. so this is just part of the efforts of the committee hopes to do as they try to paint a picture as to why the violence took place here on january 6th. and then of course, anderson, who is ultimately responsible. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it thanks. >> -- stephanie murphy. congresswoman murphy thanks for being with. this you heard ryan nobles reportedly december 18th 2020 meeting in the white house. i know you both or can't many details tonight. but can you say whether trump white house counsel pat cipollone has advanced the committee's understanding of that meeting? >> mr. cipollone was a critical player within the white house. he has provided us with a lot of relevant information to the activities that were occurring in the white house to the right up to january six and we are really grateful that he came and spoke with our committee. >> do you think mr. cipollone -- or some of this are cipollone's comments on video tomorrow? >> like we had in so many
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previous hearings we like to tell the story through the voices of the republican staff members and white house members that had firsthand experience of these situations. and certainly mr. cipollone will be one of those voices. >> in terms of these right-wing extremist groups, alleged ties to trump associates, roger stone, michael flynn, rhino reporting that they will be the focus on tomorrow. or at least, in part. >> can you say with outstanding questions you have about the roles of those two men in particular? >> i think it's really important to tomorrow is that we are going to lay out the evidence that we had already collected about the roles of those two men as well as the violent extremist. and then, it is really to the american people to decide what kind of connectivity and what culpability people in the white house, including the president, had for pulling these folks together. and what's resulted on january 6th. >> do you think people would be
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surprised in if you are flushing that details of roger stone and michael flynn role and connections. do you think people be surprised by but they hear? is this new information? >> i think there are hearings all have surprises. and so i anticipate tomorrow's hearing will be nothing short of that. >> so obviously, as you know, steve bannon has it from your committee he is magically now willing to testify. preferably at a public hearing. what is your thoughts on that. obviously he likes to create spectacle. is it clear to you how the committee is going to handle, steve bannon? >> well i don't coming up committees negotiations with mr. bannon's lawyers. nor do i comment on the doj activities. but i will say is that you don't set the terms for how you appear before a congressional committee. that has subpoenaed. you and also, we do not allow folks to use our committee as a
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platform for misinformation. and so i -- just lot of information i would like to get from mr. bannon. and i certainly hope we can find a way to do that. >> i want to play clip that cnn obtained, which is not beecher analysis does documentary, about one former president trump was talking about trying to overturn the results in georgia back on december 7th 2020. almost one week after then attorney general, bill barr, publicly said there was no evidence of election fraud. so in play this for you. >> they should open it up, verify the sutures, when you do you will see that all those people that side didn't have the right to vote. there were forgeries. and other things. and all we want is that. and that simple. or a special session. let the legislature make decision because they are already largely on our side. because i see would happen in georgia. >> alexander told the filmmakers told jake tapper
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that this is of interest in da's investigation fulton county georgia. it's my understanding the clip has been shared with their committee. does it impact our investigation anyway? the find interesting? >> i think this is one of many conspiracy theories that the president continue to press despite the fact that his white house counsel, as well the department of justice and the state election officials, had debunked. but it didn't matter to the president that nobody had evidence of fraud. and they repeatedly told him, again and again and again. there was no fraud. and, yet he still press these conspiracy theories. i think what is interesting is as expensive as our investigation has been. we have yet to come up with anybody who has been able to give us evidence of fraud. >> congressman murphy, appreciate your time tonight, thank you. >> great, great to be. within >> one but what the hearing could reveal. the ongoing threat that they
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pose. joining us for that is katherine bloom, associate professor view -- of bringing the war home the white power movement and perimeter effort. so the generous committee, kathleen, attempts to try to connect the dots between these extremist groups and people within president trump's orbit who's trying to overturn the election. what kind of thoughts will you be looking to be connecting? >> so those two main functions that i'll be looking for tomorrow. because this is a critical moment for a lot of different reasons. these big committee hearings or criminal trials or other kind of moments. where we get to see how the underground white power movement and military right is working. these are rare opportunities. so i'll be looking not only for the ties between extremist groups and the trump administration, which is very important for holding them accountable. but also for the ties between the extremist groups themselves. too often we get the sense of
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these groups as disjointed and an organized and sort of operating without connection to one another. when in fact, we should see them as part of a ground swell that is posing a threat to the nation. >> as you know, a former spokesman, and self-described up again as for the so-called oath keepers as expected to testify tomorrow. have you heard of this guy. because there -- do you think he has a ability to shed light on the person issues at hand here? >> well based on how these hearings have gone so far. i think that the committee will only bring testimony forward. that would have the ability to shed light on what happened that day. i think that how we tell the story is critically. important part of the answer, might be, that some in the trump administration, perhaps even the former president himself. they thought of these extremist groups has sort of paramilitary strike forces.
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informal security. or possibly even malicious that he could use in informal way. for his own purposes. and the style of such units and that's in america for instance. but part of the story may be that these groups were never really in control of anyone. and continue to pose a threat, whether or not, trump is held accountable. so, one thing they'll be very important to find out tomorrow is whether the kind of accountability that many people hope for in regards to the former president will be sufficient to really get a hold of this problem and the threat that it poses to our country? >> it is interesting now looking back. you get a sense of how the former president viewed, certainly, that group of so-called proud boys. in that debate. that chris wallace moderated. and which he said, in an off the cuff when push on it he said, proud boys stand back and stand by. we certainly indicated that he felt there on his side. and that he can command them to
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not to spend but standby in so they are needed. >> absolutely. the thing is that a call to arms, like that, it's very important to -- it has historically been very important to groups in the white power movement. but, i am not convinced, at all that there's ever been enough unity of purpose among background swell that they could be called back down again. i think that a stand down command ranch hard to give them a standby command. i'm not sure that these groups really word anyone's control or had a unified sense of purpose. that means, we have to be on lookout for two kinds of threats. posed by these groups one is the threat to our political process. which i think is the main focus of the hearings tomorrow. that is the threat to our voting, the threat to the idea of america as a democratic society, the other threat is the threat of guerrilla warfare
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and people trying to go out and create a white ethnic state. which is also at play here. in the underground. the fact that he went by ponds and still has not been identified given all prosecutions that have taken place is really struggling in speaks to that underground nature. thank you so much. appreciate it. what's steve bannon might have to. he's testifying before the slick maybe even as he faces trial for defying. it later, mothers and children whose survived robb elementary shooting. what the children saw what they endured. 77 minutes to wait for police to confront them mass killer.
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an educated one is joshua greene, national correspondent. steve bannon, donald trump, and the storming of the presidency. josh, how do you interpret these movements from bannon and his lawyer? clearly, he wants to testify live in person, not edited. i assume, create as big a spectacle as possible. >> anderson, there's two things going on. here bannon has two primary motivations. the first all along has been to demonstrate his loyalty to donald trump because that is for his standing in the conservative world and the movement comes from. initially, when january six committee came together, trump was very upset. he didn't want his people cooperating with. that so, bannon shorted his loyalty by defying that subpoena to an extent that it has landed him to criminal contempt charges. over the past few weeks, the committee has done a very effective job of pressuring trump and as a traitor to the net states. trump has become angry that
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there is no one out there defending. him so, he has changed tack. he's given steve bannon his letter to go testify. i think what he would like to happen, certainly would bannon would like to happen, and this is the second motivation, is to go in and create as big a spectacle as possible in order to undermine the credibility of the committee. it's very impressive. like benny thompson, democrat crowds, liz cheney. people paying attention listen to. those would bannon's trying to do is, essentially, be abominable this thing up. i think that is why he is so eager to testify live so that he can begin to counteract a lot of the effect the committee has had on public opinion. >> a federal judge today denied bands request for his contempt of congress child to be delayed. how much, in your view, is his is connected to the outlook for the criminal case? >> i think it is very connected. bannon is now facing the
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consequences of decisions he made last year when he decided to spurned the subpoena. back then, i think it was all a lark. it was a way to get attention. if you remember, when he came down to get a range of the federal courthouse, he brought a camera crew and stopped mid perp walk to give an interview to his podcast viewers and listeners. this is a way to get attention. now, the reality of this trial when we next, week i think he and his lawyers are doing everything they can to try and import a forestall meant of that. the judge said a couple. things one, they're not going to delay the trial. to, the judge denied cnn's attempt to call nancy pelosi's a witness. you can imagine the spectacle that would create. and the judge also said that bannon can't say that he defied the subpoena on the advice of his defense counsel. so, he is really running out of options here. we will wait. running into some consequences for the decision he made, for
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how he decides to show his loyalty to donald trump.p. everything is coming there. now i think his woke and up and recognize. that >> pressure if i'm wrong, i think i read that the judge is actually a trump appointed judge. >> yeah. i think that goes a long way toward showing just how outlandish a lot of legal callum's ben and his team are. he has claimed executive privilege. even though trump had fired him before the generous six attack. not a lot of legal experts put much stock in that. so, ellis with extended, a after the judges weighed in, is that band is going to face a reckoning if it is next week. he will get to test as claims in court. >> if he is convicted, i mean, what kind of time, will kind of punishment is he facing? does any kind of punishment bolster his credential in the convoluted world of donald trump?
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>> well, it is an interesting question. he faces a minimum of 30 days maximum of a year on each of the charges. as for that was due to standing, her. i think it might bolster his standing in that world. having said that, knowing steve bannon, having talked to him about this, you know, over the months and years, i can say that with confidence he would rather not demonstrate his loyalty by spending time behind bars and eat imprisoned food for a year. he would much rather go in and disrupt january six committee, do some kind of outrageous media stuff that he is renowned for, prove his loyalty that. way he has got himself into a situation where whether or not he really wants to go this route, he may wind up paying a fairly steep price. >> appreciate it. thanks. or might or not to miss the cnn special report. that impact he has had, steve bannon, divided we fall. -- i'll speak with the author of a riveting new book, republican
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crepes leave it to the republican congressman. as we mentioned earlier, cassidy hutchinson testified that the protesters were coming to the capitol the president knew. many of them are armed. one of them there anyway. startling revelations. a republican reaction. proceedings has been largely muted. republicans relationship to the former president is subject to a really fascinating new book called thank you for your servitude, donald trump's washington and the price of submission. we are joined by the author. there are so many fascinating details and revelations in this book. one term that keeps coming up over and over is the joke that this republican was in on the joke. could explain what the joke is? >> terrific question. the joke, and i read about washington before, the joke has been about the. saying someone so get such. oh they know are trying to do here. not going to say on the record. when i wrote my last, the joke was, senator so-and-so republicans and senator selling
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so, democratic's. they're all in business unit. that's a joke. we don't have the talk about. it sounds pretty crass. they lobby, but have. if the joke now, among republicans i talked to is that donald trump is not fit to be president. what they say privately about him is so stunningly different from what they will say in public about him. that has become the joke. reliving it. antidote after anecdote in the book. but republicans lindsey graham, marco rubio, ted cruz. those who gave dire warnings about donald trump when they were running against him. only to become the most loyal supporters. and it is this endless sort of question of what is it? they are of your base? they are of the president? why? >> there is just they are losing. their lose in the parking space. i don't know what it is. there is a lot of psychology that didn't really attempt that deeply. here it is fascinating sort of character study.
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i think the question is, are we still here? why we will talk much henry? sixth why does this even exist at all? this was a normal world than donald trump lost after a few days and was evident. mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, lindsey graham, but to say okay congratulations president elect biden. and that eventually donald trump would probably get the message. but they started along and all of the sidon cops are getting beaten up and bludgeoned by these riders. >> they had a moment, they could have distance themselves and it may have been difficult for a while but he would've gone away. >> i had these conversations right after january 6th about mccarthy. around grant. all right, he's done, we are going to move on, mcconnell said so much publicly. but all of a sudden you have mcconnell sort of moving the impeachment hearings back so there's going to be in the inauguration. then you have republicans, almost in lockstep saying he is a former president why did we have to impeach him. we have the easy answer, kevin
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mccarthy 80s have to integration is going down to kiss the ring again in mar-a-lago to a guy that earlier that month had basically try to have him in his colleagues. guilt and, you know. >> >> is there any shame? that's one of the things as a radio book i'm thinking there is no shame. >> that is the evergreen question. i think one of the lessons of donald trump is that shamelessness to some degree is a superpower. one of the things that makes him so dangerous and may be successful, is that he doesn't have the fate of embarrassment. he doesn't have the fear of being revealed -- >> he's not barrister p lie over and over and over. get where she pulled down. >> the average person -- i remember seeing the store bubbling correspond who supports to publicly. the average person, if it was revealed about donald trump, the types of come out, go down the list. the average person will be carrying under the bed. look how humiliating. and another quaint day they would retired. >> there is fascinating detail about the former speaker of the house, paul ryan, watching the
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riot. >> yeah, all right, speaker of the house. he had a very sort of complicated relationship with donald trump. he basically left congress in 25th -- 2018 after is dealing with this so much. i had to give him a few months ago and sort of looking back at what he had become and would happen on cheddar sixth. he said as watching it. i just found myself sobbing. and just breaking into tears. because, i knew these people, this must security detail. these are my own capitol police officers who protected me every day. and i just didn't know what happened. and they said, well, at some point i said speaker did anybody tears of complicity, guilt? you helped him get -- probably get his signature look to chip accomplishment, tax reform. but also you're sitting on the board of fox news. >> he's on the board of fox news. >> that is still true. i don't understand sorry when you say you are troubled by this as you were and as you are. but, come on, he didn't go
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there. he just want to talk about how he obviously reacted very emotionally. >> of course, that story, it is one of the stories people tell when they want to look good. and that when the important question is to, which is obviously the red question, if he does want to go there? because that's actually self reflective. >> yeah, he was making that money on it presumably, i don't have the exact figure. but fox is probably one of the two -- one or two biggest reasons why donald trump remains his bible as he does today. >> the book is really fascinating, mark congratulations. it is out now. thank you for servitude. bottom trump washington and the price of submission. and with the prices. uptick spot delays for the of the mass shooting robb elementary school in texas including what state officials are now saying about the release of preliminary report. plus video of that day from inside the school and what more it shows.
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legislations we. decades president was interrupted by 1 pm here in d.c.. manual the, person who was killed during the 2018 mass school shooting in parkland florida. >> today is many things. it is proof that despite the naysayers we can make meaningful progress on dealing with gun violence. we have -- to make no mistake. -- >> you have to do more than that. prioritizing progress. [inaudible] >> let me finish my comment. let me talk, let me talk. >> and his remarks president biden says that this law been in place years ago, quote, lives would've been saved. he also said more needs to be done. and uvalde texas, today, county commission to manage the pass resolution asking the governor's race minimum age for purchase up to salsa wife us. also committing the texas legislator investigating the
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mass shooting and police response says it hopes to release a preliminary report as well surveillance footage from inside the school. cnn simon -- recently spoke with mothers of several children who survived. plus one of the children. i want to warn you what you're about here is graphic and difficult to hear. >> he said he just saw the shooter come to adore and tell us the truth tonight. and shot her. and then he just announce, are you already today? and just one crazy. >> focus on for travis, i didn't rodriguez, and just around a. mothers of children who survived the robb elementary shooting. life will never be the same. i >> know what they endured. that whole 77-minute stations have. >> people scattered on the floor. pools of blood so thick to a child look like red jell-o. >> these moms see the pain of that they live on through the
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eyes of their sons. >> one of the little girls that he was saying. all we can here was her gurgling. because she was trying to breathe but she couldn't because she was shot and you could just hear her choking, pretty much. >> he told you that? >> yes. but >> there is nothing that they could do. but when this is one of the countries were school shootings as victims of a failed police response. for these mothers, guilt, regret, frustration, now debilitation that healing would be a long and difficult process. >> he could be fined one minute and then another minute totally changed. >> it is just different. >> like a switch that kicks on. immediately. i we can be something that we miss said to them. or subject drops.
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her a smile. >> back to back into the day i think what is that smell. the brits? mike, what is wrong? i >> smell that smoky spell. that's why we were in the classroom. because it with smoking. and that's what it was with the gunpowder. >> i feel like my son is not going to be normal for several years. he's gonna remember what happened that day. and it's gonna stick to his head for the rest of his life. >> as an effort to get his ten-year-old son, jayden, hidden under a table and room 1:12. get >> me in my friends were scared and we didn't want to talk or nothing. and we covered our ears. guess we won't hear the gunshots. i >> you covered your ears? are you hearing a lot of gunshots? i >> mean my friend didn't have a lot of space sweetest try not to move. so he won't see us.
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dark >> and where you wonder who is going on? you had to be there for so long i? >> yes. >> or were you thinking? >> i was thinking what was going on. and i want to see but i did want the gunmen see me. >> seven weeks after the attack, parents and uvalde are still begging for clear answers. big they want to know why police waited in the hallway outside the classroom while the children were terrorized for more than an hour by the gunman. is like mom i heard him outside they were yelling and telling the shooter to come out. he was talking and laughing to himself. walking around and whenever he heard the, i don't know what little girl was called out officer -- and the officer called out. she's a come in here. he went over and shot her.
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,? >>. >>? >>. >>. >>. anne agnès. yeah. the place never going. >> there was still lives that could have been saved. if they just got there faster. if they just got in. you wear a badge. you have a kind. >> they should be scared. >> when they got there, they were still outside waiting for a little bit and i was telling my friend, i was just bring to my friend, i was falling sleep. >> this attorney wouldn't particularly miss? >> my cousin, my best friend. >> they die? he missed? what kinds of things to get you
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together? >> when we would have recess, we would have his play together play hadn't sick. >> you feel comfortable talking about what happened? is it helping? yeah? >> i feel little bit happy because my friends, my friends and my cousin are in a better place. >> a better place? where? >> and it happened. >> they join us now. i don't know what to say. you've been covering this for weeks. talking to so many family members. i just cannot plead the disrespect shown to these family members and the survivors by law enforcement officials, by the district attorney. it is stunning to me that we are watching this cover-up in realtime and have been, fix your reporting and others, four weeks. >> 48 days, right?
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that's about 40 days since this happened and counting today on the calendar. i cannot believe that we still don't know what happened here. so, we have to go to the families of the survivors and the kids to know what happened inside that classroom. we get these horrific details because law enforcement officials have been apologized. the politicians out there, really, it's becoming again politics. now that's how the community feels. they've not apologize to what happened here to these families. we're forced to go to these poor families who are suffering. in so many different ways, financially, this is been such a burden on them. just the price of gas to take their kids for physical therapy, but therapy. you know, little things that we all take for granted. it is now costing them so much money. they'd help. they need the resources. that is partially why they're speaking out. they also feel that it is important that the country
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understands what happened inside that classroom, of how this gunman was allowed to terrorize their kids for 77 minutes. their kids could hear police officers outside the door, asking if they needed help. and then, they heard more gunshots. one of the kids were killed. so, anderson, it's been a rough week. we've been talking to so many family members and they're going through a lot. we are just lucky enough to be able to, you know, in some ways, you know, sadly, they've trusted us, right? we've been able to tell their stories. these are important stories to tell. change needs to happen. something like this can never, ever, ever happen. law enforcement officials stand aside and do nothing. right to fight for information. still, so this day, we don't really have a full account, anderson, at what happened. >> yeah. i mean, as i said, i've never seen a situation like this
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where, you know, and usually days a few hours from place to come forward and say, okay, with relatively accurate information, we know reports. and then, the correct themselves the next day when things are clearer. more than 40 days, a shocking. appreciate still being there and working this and trying to get attention on it. we cannot let up. really appreciate. next, mourners gathered for former japanese prime minister -- and his assassination. when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling]
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says. why did this happen to japan? >> answering the y begins with the alleged assassin to yarmulke me. please say that the 41-year-old emma khamenei plan for weeks ahead of the shooting. please recovered many puzzles from his home. crude weapons made from pipe and adhesive tape. nhk reports yarmulke built them by watching youtube videos. it is out of the murder, image k citing police sources say no i'm a practice shooting in the mountains. officers also recovered wooden boards with bullet holes in the suspect's car. the day before, police say he practiced shooting against a building in naira. abe began his speech on the street, a news camera caught yamagami standing in the crowd listening. the next time we see emma coming? two shots were fired. officers tackled gamma gummy to
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the ground, armed with his homemade gown. yeah committee held a grudge against a group he believed the performer prime minister had ties to. japanese local media reported that the suspect told police that his mother was involved with an unnamed group. made a large donation that messed up his family life. nhk reports yamagami also believed abe's grandfather had expanded this unnamed religious group years ago. the family federation for world peace and unification, widely known as the unification church, held a news conference. they denied these allegations. they told the reports that the suspect's mother was a member of their church. cnn has not been able to reach the suspect's mother directly to confirm this. >> we struggled to understand why the suspect killed former prime minister abe due to any resentment towards our organization, since the church president. he acknowledged that he was
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aware that the suspect's mother had financial difficulties around 2002. he didn't know why or the impact on the family. the church pledged to cooperate with police. among the mourners gathering in japan's capital, u.s. secretary of state, anthony blinken. >> we saw in him something rare. a man, a vision, he was able to realize that passion. >> a towering political figure globally and at home. a country begins to bid farewell. >> it is late morning here in tokyo. the funeral is scheduled to begin in just a couple of hours. it is going to be a private ceremony for family, close dignitaries. there is an area for the public to pay their respects. we've seen this, anderson, for the past couple of hours. members of the public hearing flowers, caring notes. as i walked the grounds of the temple this morning, i even saw note that said, thank you, prime minister. i will never forget you.
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