first on cnn. sources say the former president tried to call a member of the white house support staff who was talking to the january 6th select committee. this staffer isn't someone who routinely spoke to trump. and was concerned about the contact. so informed their attorney. also tonight, we are learning the committee is providing the doj with witness transcripts the trump's fake elector plot. that is according to chairman bennie thompson. this was central to the former presidents plan to overturn the election. a member the select committee, joining me, now. thank you congresswoman, i appreciate you joining us. is there anything that you can add to our reporting tonight on this witness donald trump

called? why did this interaction raise concern? >> well don witness tampering is serious. it's a crime, as miss cheney stated during the hearing we pass along this information to the doj to look into it further. we take very seriously the safety of any witnesses anyone who comes forward to the committee. likewise, their privacy in this case. any speculation about who this person might have been and a lot of people trying to tie it together. the committee will just say. we want to protect this witness. we also want to hold people accountable who have potentially broken a law. >> chairman thompson is telling cnn, the doj has been asking for testimony, from the committee, related to trump's fake elector scheme. is there enough evidence on this one issue to lead to a criminal indictment of trump? >> the committee is not the one who will determine the criminal indictment. that would be the department of justice. as we have said through the

investigation, when we discover things, it's my personal opinion. if we discover things, that indicate criminal activity, we should. we have a responsibility to share them with the department of justice. as the chairman indicated, we certainly want to work with them. to facilitate and mastications. where that is a feasible. at this point in our investigation. >> do you have confidence in the doj that they will act? that the department of justice will act on the information you uncovered? >> i have confidence in the rule of law, those people who are appointed, and serve in those positions, to enforce the law. as we move forward, i see this investigation. we don't have a lot of details, investigations like this go on and away. it's to protect the information as it is gathered. it is clear, that this is growing in size, growing in scale, if you look at seditious conspiracy. the number of people involved, who have been charged with that. i do have confidence, they are picking up the pace, i would

like to see them continue down that path. >> is it noisy, what is that? >> i think they are rolling something downstairs. >> got it. can we go back to the person, the staffer that was allegedly contacted by the former president. is anyone doing anything to protect this person? do you think this person is in a position now? that they need to be protected? is that of concern at all? >> all of the witnesses who come before us, their safety is utmost concern to the committee. on a case by case basis, we will evaluate that work, work with council. and of course, we want to make sure that is why we are not identifying who this person is. we are not corroborating any reporting, that others or you have been doing tonight about that person's role. and their job. but you know, they need to be kept safe. we have that as a concern. >> congresswoman, your committee try to connect the extremist groups who stormed the capitol directly to trump.

there wasn't a smoking gun there. correct me if i'm wrong, is there something we can expect in the next hearing? are we missing something? >> i will tell you, i said this before we went into the most recent hearing. it's a venn diagram. you have these groups, these people are speaking to other people, we had crypt id communications between them. we had people from these different groups providing security to some people in the presidents orbit. like how much more clear doesn't need to be? that there was involvement. and information flowing, between these groups. and people who had significant influence on the president and his actions, and his thoughts. we heard at length about this very heated conversation that went on. in the white house, and i think all of these things tied together will come into more clarity, when we move into the last hearing. i will be cheering the last hearing with my colleague adam kinzinger. we will be focusing on that 187 minutes. the time from when the

president left the stage at the ellipse, until they made that rose garden video. one would think that the president only steps away from the ability to make a statement to the nation. and during that time, i look at it as a dereliction of duty. he did not act, he did not take action to stop the violence. we will be going through that. in a lot of detail in our upcoming hearing. >> obviously, my next question. what new information will be present? >> stay tuned for the hearing [laughs] there will be a lot of information, a lot more clarity about the details of the things that happened that day. what's the people who were working in the white house, working around the president. and even people who were advising him to do things, actions that he was not taking. based off their recent advice. we will go into a lot of detail about all of that. >> you said your last hearing, we are hearing there could be others? possibly, there could be others, if it wants. yes, no? >> of course, of course. i said last week, we planned a

series, we wanted to describe the trajectory, paint a full picture of information we gather through our investigation. and these series of hearings replied, this is the last one we have planned right now. as we continue to gather more information. we will certainly plan to present that to the public. >> thank you congresswoman gloria, working late into the night, and others at the capitol, we can see as working as well. we can hear working as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. i want to bring in former republican congresswomen, and doug jones. while, much quieter -- hello, charlie. what does this say to you. that trump called this lower level white house staffer himself? >> well it tells me that the former president was directly involved, with trying to contact a witness. and he, from day one. he has been far too involved with this whole insurrection business. he was directly making phone calls to people. in georgia, we saw, we talk

about that many times. calling brad raffensperger. he was directly involved with attempts to overturn this election, now he appears to be attempting to influence the testimony of witnesses. again, i don't know with the doj is going to do. boy this really smells to high heaven! >> i'm glad you said that, that's a reaction for most people. we said, there we go charlie what do you think? people are like -- man, again! this guy! like what's! >> i don't -- look, i just know, the basic smell test. anybody else has done this sort of thing. i guarantee, to the department of justice would be crawling up their backside. and they would be all lawyered up, and they would be probably awaiting indictment right now. but this guy, i guess he's a former president. he seems he has a lot of -- we will see if that lasts. >> doug? no? >> there was no crime committed here yet. look, it does smell to high

heaven. there's no question about that. in, historically, donald trump has always been involved in the day today. he would reach out, he would do things, but there was no contact with this witness. it was an attempted phone call. there was no threat, no intimidation. but they did the right thing. and don't get me wrong, it smells to high heaven. and in the committee did absolutely the right thing, they sent a very strong message, that the committee takes any kind of witness tampering. if it were attempted witness tampering, very serious. they are also sending a message to the former president, and others around him. that you know what, you might want to think twice before you contact any witness. because guess what? most of them have lawyers, and they will call the committee. >> doug -- >> hang on. number three, the third message. they are sending messages to witnesses. who say if you get contacted, we will take care of you, we will protect you. we will get involved. go ahead.

>> right on all accounts. do you know how many lawsuits donald trump has been involved in? don't you think by now, that he, if anybody would know not to try to contact a potential witness. it would be donald trump? any person would know that! any lawyer would say, do not contact a witness! i mean it's -- >> and i did not say don, i did not say it was appropriate. i didn't say it didn't smell to high heaven. what i said was, there was no contact. there was no crime. but it does smell, again, it's absolute. the committee notes this, it's absolutely why congresswoman cheney was as forceful as she was. she is sending a message to all of those involved. not just the former president, there are other people that could be mentioned. she is sending a message that the committee is to a lot of people, again, it's also were reported, important, she is sending messages to potential witnesses. what -- let us know if there was improper contact. and we will take it seriously. >> i have to get your take, as

well, doug, on the doj asking for select committee testimony about trump's fake elector scheme. is this what merrick garland should be focusing on now? >> i think that's one of many things that the department of justice is not only should be focusing on, that probably is focusing on. remember don, we have talked about this. this testimony is very compelling. but it's also not testimony that in expert form, can be used in a court of law. they're going to follow that up, either with a grand jury. or with their own witness -- all of these witnesses have lawyered up. they have to go through their lawyers. that's the doj protocols, that's the ethical guidelines, they will be following up with all of this. i think it's a very serious charge. about the fake electors. and it is very widespread, they will be following up on this for sure. >> so charlie, when the hearings began. we heard about how trump allies were going to be holding press conferences, defending him daily. that has not happened?

and we are told that trump is unhappy about that. are republicans quietly shifting away from donald trump? >> the facts are very bad for president -- former president trump. they are terrible facts, who's going to want to go out there. and it defend? you know, attempting to call witnesses. or, who wants to go out there, and try to discredit cassidy hutchinson. who very courageously testified, and laid forth some very compelling facts, and corroborated -- who wants to go out there and put their name on that? i think any member who wants to go out there, and it defend that kind of action, is going to take a big hit on their own credibility. i have said all along, president trump is a diminishing political figure. a dangerous one, he's diminishing even more. because of what we are learning, and what's being revealed. there is no one on that committee defending him obviously. i don't think any member is going to make any headway, trying to defend donald trump, right now.

>> and supporters? like the oath keepers, the proud boys, whatever -- and the shop owners of african american women. who were harassed by trump supporters after they did what they did. so who would want to come out, you are right. who wants to come out and criticize those folks. thank, you appreciate it. the threat is not over, the threat to our democracy. one of the biggest dangers may be from a violent extremist inflamed by political leaders. what we have learned from january 6th, and what it will take to keep it from happening again? icks. and we'll come to you with a replacement you can trtrust. >> man: lolooks great. >> tech: that's service on your time. scschedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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among the most surreal moments i should say, i think. the january six committee, not just showing the danger of our democracy, that our democracy is -- was eighth on january 6th. also the danger that continues in the future. witnesses like former oath keepers spokesperson, who you know, you see her. on your screen, he is on the right. warning the committee that the threat is not over. and he joins me now. he's the author of the propaganda oath keeper, and the perils of extremism. here with me as well, she has advice of the january 6th committee of political violence. a political history professor. and author of a newsletter about threats to democracy. thank you both for joining. i have never thought i would be sitting here with a member of the oath keepers, or the proud boys or whomever talking about

this. i want to play your testimony on january 6th. and i want to get your response, here's some of your testimony. >> i do fear for this next election cycle. because who knows what that might bring. if a president that's willing to try to instill and -- encourage to whip up a civil war amongst his followers using lies and deceit with snake oil. and regardless of the human impact, what else is he going to do if he gets elected again? all bets are off at that point? >> i thought your testimony -- i thought you were very effective. who was that message intended for? >> i mean, i think it's attended for all of us. i think that we really need to take serious what's happening. i think, that, we are in a very perilous time.

i know that i worry a lot for the world, that my daughters and my granddaughters will inherit. if speaking out, and you know, trying to warn what's the potentials are. past what we saw on january 6th, i will do that. >> the question that people have. is what's a cue so long? >> i have actually been doing it behind the scenes for many years, for several years anyway. helping some journalists. i didn't do it on the record, because i kind of just didn't want my name associated anymore. i wanted to walk away from it. i would point out, kind of give the scoop to the story. talk them through who the players are, who different journalists are? >> you think there are people there who obviously said it's your words -- correct me if i'm wrong. >> it does become very cold like. >> do you feel you are brainwashed? >> i mean i certainly was

messed up. you know i left around 2016 kind of right as they were getting to the point where they were reporting people like richard spencer and the rise of the alt-right. and it just got more and more extreme. with each one of these standoffs. that it wasn't something i could abide. and it was something that was financially difficult for me to break away from. we were living in poverty. but it came to a point where i had to -- i couldn't do it. >> ruth i'm sure this rings true to you. this is what you studied, this is when you talk about. the committee laid out how these far-right groups reacted to these calls. to stand back and stand by. and the tweet on the sixth. that it would be wild. what is to stop political leaders from inflaming violent extremists? >> well for one thing, we can't

overestimate the impact of these hearings. and if we were -- many countries in the world wouldn't be able to have these hearings. i think awareness of just how dangerous our times are and how methodically and systematically donald trump cultivated extremists for five years. and you know, it wasn't only that he signaled to establish extremists like the oath keepers and proud boys. but he used his rallies, i have a long list of the rallies. where he had ordinary followers coming, and he radicalized them by telling them that violence could have a positive value. or offering to pay the legal fees. if they beat up protesters and they got into trouble. so this was like the genie out of the bottle. of this idea, that violence could be therapeutic for the country. and we see what happened on january 6th. >> jason is shaking his head in agreement with you. why jason?

>> this is something we have seen with stewart rhodes as well. he was a licensed attorney. he lost his license, because he had abandoned different clients. but he would oftentimes, he was all was boasting he was a yale educated attorney. and he would take care of people if they got in trouble. when it came to rub it on the road, he ghosted them. so it's really these people who get swept up. and don't know any better. the victims of these social media echo chambers. and when they go off and do stupid things because they are encouraged to because it's this frenzy. they are the ones who pay the price, the family praised the price. leaders never pay the price. they really have not been held to account yet. that's also scary. >> what do you think of that ruth? is he right? >> i think you know, i think that one of the benefits of the hearings is to put awareness on

how radicalized the gop has become. because january 6th happened because of radicalization already. but it wasn't in itself -- it was like an accelerant. it was like a preclude in place. i think awareness is our watch word, to make sure that we can do things. to prevent this from festering further. i don't think a lot of people know, that on the local and state level. there are a lot of intermingling of a fusion between extremists and the gop. i really see the gop as an extremist entity now. so it's not just that oath keepers or proud boys can become the militia wing, or the paramilitary wing of the party. the party itself is morphing into an extremist force. going forward, that's what i'm really worried about. >> do you agree with jason? >> i think we're seeing it in idaho, the pacific northwest. more and more candidates are running, that have close ties, or outright encouraged to run.

we have seen people like matt shea and others, who really have a world view that i don't want to live in. >> so what's the fix? >> the fix is us. like we have to have these conversations, we have to be talking about this. we have to stop, mincing words, we have all had these conversations on our couches with our families. about how crazy things have gotten. we have to figure it out. we can't stop, -- >> you say we have to stop mincing words. that means at home, also members about the news media. because people want to believe that the gop is not as bad as you guys are saying. that it is. it's not morphing into what ruth says or what you are saying. it is at that? >> it is, it already is at that. look at what happened january 6th perfect, there were gallows set up for one of their own. i don't understand how it gets

worse than that. other than we got lucky because there was incompetence at play. my worry is what's going to happen when leaders comes up. that isn't as incompetent as stewart rhodes. that is willing to go lead the charge instead of stepping back to where the legal line is. so he's not arrested. what's going to happen when there's real leadership in that community? and they are leading the charge. and every time we see these events happen, and there's not accountability. it embolden these groups, they see it as a victory. that's why we see it as a ratcheting up of bundy ranch to the capital. we went from a standoff to trying to start a revolution, trying to kick off a bloody revolution. >> thank you jason, thank you ruth, appreciate it. we should continue to have this conversation. please come back, thank you. >> absolutely thank you. >> family members of uvalde school shooting victims blindsided by leaked video

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outrage over the leak of the disturbing you've all day surveillance video, where 19 children and two teachers were killed. the austin american-statesman is defending their statement to release the video, and even though many of the families of the victims in the massacre felt they should've seen it before the public. many are wondering why it took so long for them to see it in the first place. the video league follows weeks

of questions about the police response to the shooting, joining me now is former atf senior executive but -- because they didn't see it first. i want to listen to felicia hernandez, mother of a vermont teen as. >> we are suffering, the world is suffering, to but these were our babies, our babies that were taken from us. so, to the person that leaked it. screw you. scroll you, and that is coming from me, felicia martinez. from all of us, school you. >> listen, it really captures what this whole investigation has been like for the families. no transparency, no answers, no respect for what they are going through. >> yes, it does. it's one of the most disturbing

videos i've seen in my 30 year career, and i feel for the victims, everybody is suffering in this, and they will be suffering for a long, long time unfortunately. >> you point to this moment from the video, three minutes after the shooter entered the school as a key moment in lawton forsman's response. with you see here? >> they made an attempt to do an entry, these are the first arriving officers, they have multiple long guns with them. they all had handguns as well. so they are numbered them, and they had superior firepower. unfortunately, when they took fire on contact, they fled. and that, i think, really set the tone for what followed for the next 70 plus minutes. >> 19 minutes after the shooter entered the school, we see officers here with tactical shields, long guns. you said that they outnumber them, they have the equipment.

so, what should've happened at that point? >> don, i think one of the points that's gonna i'm out of, this obviously, is that incident kept manned it completely and utterly failed. the officers that were there certainly would have been willing, they have training and firepower, but for whatever reason, they did not feel that they had the ability to go in. i've heard that there is talk about command confusion, but that's really going to be a pale excuse when you have all of these kids being shot and they knew that this was happening. for some reason, they did not go in. >> scott sweet oh, thank you, appreciate you joining, us and your perspective. thank you very much. >> during the 2020 election, the former president barack obama sending a scathing email to his white house doctor ronny jackson, who had criticize then candidate biden, will tell you all about it, next.

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of biden's mental health. here's part of obama's health, i've made a point of not speaking about your service in this excessive -- and of always spoken highly of you in public and private, you've always served my family well, and i consider you not only find doctrine servicemen, but also a friend. that's why i also have to express my disappointment at the cheap shot you took a joe biden be on twitter, it was unprofessional, and beneath the office you once held. it was also disrespectful to me and the many friends that you had in our administration. you are the personal physician of the president of the united states, as well as an admiral in the u.s. mid-navy, i expect better, and i hope that upon reflection you'll expect more of yourself in the future. obama acted after jackson re-tweeted a video of biden along with this message, remember the cognitive test they give donald trump? and when he aced? sounds like somebody else might need some testing done. scary. let's discuss now, cnn medical analyst jonathan minor is here,

and political commentator -- senior staff editor at the new york times opinion. good to see you both. david, there's a lot of trolling in politics. but why do you think obama felt the need to respond? >> i think he was trying to do the right thing. but i think, don, in this case, president obama miscalculated for two reasons. one reason is that, no matter his intentions, it comes across as a sane, please don't pick on my friend. president biden, then vice president biden, can defend himself. he defended himself by winning that election. now this letter is out it kind of makes him look a little bit weaker that obama was receiving on his behalf. the other miscalculation is that obama in a letter, it got away from when it made him so successful in politics. when he was running for president, they called him everything but a child of god. what do you do? russia's shoulders of. when they, said he wears your flight? then he didn't give a sermon, he just put on the flight pin.

never came off. and i think in that way, he got away from what helped him win two decisive presidential victories. but, on the merits, he's obviously right. congressman jackson, that tweet was grammy, he was pandering to try to win an election. >> and he also gave him a selling point for his book, right? we >> exactly. now he is going to dine out on this letter for the rest of his career. >> don't give him oxygen. we so jackson's comments republic, obama's were not. until jackson wrote about it in his book. why do you think president obama reach out to him via email, and said sunday with doctor-patient relationship possibly? >> well, i think the former president felt betrayed. ronny jackson did something that is almost unheard of amongst white house physicians. i've had the honor of knowing several. look, when you are the physician for the president of the united states, you are in charged with him the

president's life. the president puts his trust in you. you also become part of the administration, i think the former president felt betrayed. mr. jackson has shown himself to be a consummate opportunist. he carried favor with president obama, so he could become promoted to admiral. he then gave that famous press conference during the trump administration, in 2018, when he basically called the former president trump basically an adonis, who can lift 200, that got him nominated to become va secretary. and then in 2020, you know, he attacked mr. biden, which basically got the former president, trump, to support his candidacy for congress. so, he's shown himself willing

to basically do what he has to do to achieve his goal, regardless of what the ethics are. i think the former president, obama, was deeply offended by it. >> this has played out, this all played out in february of 2020. there were plenty of democrats still in the field, to become democratic nominee for president. was this about ronny jackson doing a solid for his latest patient, donald trump? that's for you david. >> yeah, i think it was. just like dr. reiner said. he knew that running for congress, he wanted to have the support of then president trump. he knew that president trump and a lot of people, as we share in their political, be like this sort of only the lid's idea. >> he's an opportunist -- >> yeah, he's an opportunities. i also want to dip into your lane, doctor reiner. correct me if i'm, wrong i

don't think physicians, of which congressman jackson's, and a former flag officer are not supposed to have the appearance of even diagnosing someone from afar. it's just not appropriate for a doctor to do. add on that he was the white house physician when biden was vice president. >> can you respond to that doctor? >> that's absolutely right, i think he mischaracterize himself as having some sort of insight knowledge about vice president biden, when in fact i don't think he ever examined on mr. biden when he was in office. and even more recently, he's characterized himself that way with former vice president cheney. when he basically asserted that he was in a position of caring for the former pry vice president, but still felt the need to speak out against liz cheney. so he's shown himself willing

to say basically anything. look, this past november, he called omicron basically a democratic midterm election trick. so he showed himself basically willing to throw away any ethnic that you might have had when he was a physician. in order to achieve some sort of political goal. >> well, look, this is been the era the opportunities in the grafter, and has a lot of them out there. thank you very much. the midterms are loon being, and the balance of power in the senate could come down to the race in pennsylvania. speaking of what i just said, where the candidates? in one easy appointment... ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: ...we can replalace your windshield and recalibrate your advanced s safety system. >> dad: looks great. t thanks. >> tech: stay safe with safelite. scschedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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recover. a surprise visit with a democratic volunteers last weekend, seen here in this edited campaign video. showed both of the promise of his return, and the serious steps still ahead in his rehabilitation. >> we will be back, on the trail, soon! almost at 100%. [applause] >> his speech is halting, aides say stronger than a month ago. >> almost towards the end of my life. you know. and it's totally changed my life since then. >> his surprise appearance at the pittsburgh campaign office brought a smile and sense of relief to join us. who was sitting only a few feet away during feet fetterman's top. >> it was great to see, him he just looked so vibrant, he really came through out of those difficult health problems. >> have you've been wondering how he has been doing? >> yes, yes i have. >> office is taking to

capitalize on his celebrity as a tv doctor. some republicans worry whether he's taking proper advantage of fetterman's act since. his tv ads have gone dark since winning the primary. leaving the airwaves to his democratic rival. >> pennsylvania is our home, and it's worth fighting for. >> from afar, fetterman's badgering oz for recently moving to pennsylvania. after living in new jersey for more than three decades. flying a welcome home banner over the jersey shore. >> i'm here to some stage -- >> he blasted oz for filling a video from his new jersey mansion. under certain oz did not deny. republicans meanwhile, are deploying a missing persons post or fetterman. also arguing he's too extreme for pennsylvania. the last time fetterman appeared at a campaign event was may 12th. his wealth wife told us she noticed something was seriously wrong the next morning. >> came back to the car talking to me, and for one second, his mouth moved. in an unnatural way. immediately that second i went to the hospital.

>> he left the hospital nine days later, with a defibrillator implanted in his chest. to recover at home, just outside pittsburgh. summarily a democratic state representative who is running for congress, said she often sees fetterman out walking, as he continues to recover. >> obviously the sooner we can he can get him back, the better. if we can get him back, ready to go, for the long haul. after labor day, i think that is going to be good shape, we are going to be better. >> it was exactly two months ago tonight, don. that fetterman was hospitalized. and really no one into his prognosis at the time. they said he would be out soon, of course, we have learned so much more about his recovery. there are still many questions remaining. and one of them, is when he will return to the campaign trail. his aides say he is growing in strength. he said that himself, when he dropped by the campaign office here on saturday. there are still many questions. yet at the same time, doctor oz

simply has not been campaigning here. to fill that void, all that much over the last two months. don, less than four months to election day. one of the closest most important senate races in the country. filled with many questions on both sides. >> right on. fetterman is running a really unconventional campaign while recovering. he is known for his straight talk, he's even mocking oz with online memes. is that resonating voters? >> look, he definitely is out of sight, not out of mind. he's been tweeting nearly constantly, or his staff has. usually several times a day. going after all this, in particular. here's one example, take a look at this, message he sent out earlier today. obviously given the news of inflation of importance to every voter we spoke to here in pennsylvania this is what fetterman said. he said inflation hit another four-year high 14 families are paying more almost everywhere i see it every time i go to

stores. things are way too expensive. he is trying to push back on the fact that it's his party that is in power. he of course running as a democrat. who would preserve that democratic majority in the senate should he win. so he is trying to make himself certainly front and center in the campaign. and push back against his own party as well. don at the open question hanging over all of this when he will be able to come back to the campaign? will he be able to debate in an engaging way with oz? one other date on the calendar here is august 15th. that is the last date he can withdraw and another candidate can be replaced on the ballot. his aides say that is not going to happen. but that still is one last sort of hurdle here if you will before this race becomes joint in the fall. >> all right we'll be watching, you'll be reporting. appreciate that report. and thank you for watching everyone. our coverage continues.

good even today, after the seventh public hearing from the january six committee, we have new information about a separate justice department investigation, and how it ties in with some of the testimony that we've heard from republican officials, but the effort to overturn the elections. specifically, that scheme to install fake electors. we want to start with that tonight on capitol hill, with cnn congressional correspondent ryan nobles. what have you learned about this justice department coordination with the january smitty? . >> well, we know that it is starting to happen anderson, and this is of course a big roadblock to the department of justice. as it expanded into areas beyond just the rioters that reach the capitol on that day. and started looking into more