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thank you for watching everyone i will be back tomorrow night , don lemon tonight starts right now, hey don lemon. >> everything okay? >> everything is great, you had a long day. my goodness do you ever sleep? no, just past it. >> i do not, i have many many jobs and you know. that's where we are, one must in this environment. thank you laura i will see you tomorrow night, great show. >> this is don lemon tonight and one of the biggest bombshells of the hearing so far right now, corroborated by someone who was there a source telling cnn a washington police officer cooperating to the january 6 committee details of what cassidy hutchinson was told happened when a furious donald trump tried to get the secret service to take him to the capital where a mob of his supporters were trying to stop the election certification. >> the president said something to the effect of i am the
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president, take me to the capital now. to which bobby responded sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm and said so you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we are going back to the west wing. we are not going to the capital. and mr. trump then used his free hand to lunch towards bobby engel and went he recounted the story to me he had motioned towards his clavicles. >> and was mr. engel in the room as he told you this story? >> he was. >> did mr. engel correct or disagree with any part of this story? >> mr. engel did not correct or disagree with any part of the story.
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>> did they ever after that tell you that what he just said was untrue? >> neither mr. engel or the other told me it was ever untrue. >> now that officer with dc metropolitan police department who was right there in the motorcade firsthand witness is corroborating details of what cassidy hutchinson told the committee and we have new reporting tonight which we will bring you in just a moment on the question of loss or erased, secret service text messages from january 5 and january 6 but i want to get right to that reporting now, first on cnn and dc police officer who talked to the january 6 committee is corroborating details of what happened in the president's suv when he tried to go to the capital after his rally and they are both here, hello to all of you, i want to start with you evan because you have the report and the secret
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service is responding that they had deleted text messages from january 5 and six, can you tell us first what our reporting is and how the secret service is responding tonight? >> yes, so the reporting that is based on a letter from the office of general, notified congress that they had sought records from the secret service and that's apparently according to the secret service they had found that text messages from january's fifth and january 6 2021 had been deleted as part of a process during which the secret service was changing devices, telephone devices and so as a result of that these messages were erased. according to the secret service this was part of the process again they were changing devices and that's the reason why these messages were missing.
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the officer of the inspector general was notifying congress because they said that this was of course a problem for their investigation of exactly what happened. on january 6. now i should note that the secret service provided about 800,000 emails and other documents in response to this investigation from the inspector general, it is just that these very key obviously, key text messages are lost according to the inspector general. as you pointed out the secret service is now disputing a large part of what the inspector general told congress. they are saying that again that some of this was lost because they were changing devices this is a process that is not at all nefarious and there was no intentional deletion of emails or text messages and they say
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that a lot of things were actually saved as a result of their efforts to save some of the messages that were on these devices. but they are disputing the central assertion or the suggestion that some of these text messages were deleted nefariously or with some intent to cover up something. >> let me give the report if you're just joining us again the secret service is now responding to a report about erasing text messages as it relates to january 5 and january 6. 2020. the day before the insurrection and the insurrection in the incident to reportedly whatever, everything that went down here is what they are saying. evan perez is joining us now again, the insinuation that the secret service maliciously deleted text messages following a request is false and back the secret service has been fully cooperating with the oig in every respect whether it be interviews, documents emails or text's.
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first to january 2021 before any inspection was opened by the aig on the subject usss again the secret service began to reset its mobile phones to factory settings as part of a preplanned three-month system mitigation in this process data, resident on some phones was lost. they are explaining that and are evan perez is on top of that, continue please. >> that is right don and it is a huge part of the reason why this is important is there is a lot of scrutiny on exactly what happened in those key days. you know there's a lot of concern about what exactly the secret service new. and the fear was that some of that information would be lost forever. because again so many things that are the secret service agents were witnesses to and their communications at that time are key to understanding
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how they responded to the riot and how they responded to what the former president was trying to do. all of these things you know are very important pieces of evidence for the investigation for january 6 obviously and also for possibly the justice department if they end up looking at some of this. so that's the reason why this dispute is very important and is very important to know what happened with these text messages that it appears at least some of them have been lost. >> okay, evan perez standby as we have others here, andrew does this make sense to you or do you still have questions about it? >> i have a lot of questions and let's remember that this is an agency that their actions around these events have raised a lot of significant questions. this is an agency who took a senior leader, on-duty federal agent and allow that person to
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take essentially a political position in the justice department that being tony, an agency who after the testimony of the cassidy hutchinson basically attacked her testimony with official and unofficial statements none of them being under oath and then has still yet to present any of those officials. to testify again in front of the committee to resolve some of these differences in the versions of events from january 6 and now we learn of the loss of key text messages on january 5 and january 6. the only way for the service to get out from under a cloud of suspicion here is to send appropriate officials up to the hill to testify about these issues to be transparent and to bring these facts out into the light and breathless press statements on a thursday night at 10 pm are not going to do or cover this. >> the secret service statements as none of the text messages the committee wanted were lost and will soon likely
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learn if that is true. is that correct? >> how would they know that, if they are lost, how do they know what they were, i have the same questions that andrew just voiced. here's the bottom line, text messages from a crucial agency at a crucial time that are missing. they say it wasn't what the committee wants who knows, they are gone and if that was done intentionally there is no evidence but if that was done intentionally that will be a major problem even if it was not when you replace your devices as any federal law- enforcement fbi you don't throw the device in the dumpster and say it's gone you have obligations to preserve the information and you back it up it's not that difficult technologically so there is no excuse for secret service not having backups of the contents of these devices. >> just joining us the secret service is now responding to these allegations about text messages being erased from january 5 and january 6 obviously of 2020 also the
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developing news about now a police officer dc police officers corroborating now on what happened inside of the presidents suv on january 6, every day brings more developments, explain why you think this is so significant that a dc police officer is now cooperating and corroborating with cassidy hutchinson's statement. a policeman saying it happened. >> the question is all about settled at this point whether donald trump wanted to go to the capital undisputed, he himself has admitted that whether he was angry, furious there is no question in my mind, you have cassidy hutchinson's under oath testimony and this new cooperating evidence. and pat cipollone, we don't know exactly what he said but he was consistent with the other evidence and did not contradict anybody and on the other side of this what do we have? and not under oath denial from a spokesperson for this guy ornato so the skills are not
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close at this point. maybe there will be other evidence that backs him up but we have not seen that yet. >> is evan perez still there? so we will talk to him more about this because he has some reporting on this as well but listen there's also, andrew i want to get your response, what do you make of this officer now cooperating? >> really fascinating development in the story and it's one you know quite frankly having a few more questions here, where was this officer did he hear what the exchange that took place inside the limo because of open radio channel or was he physically approximate to the exchange could he see through the windows there was all kinds of questions that if you're putting this person understand as they could tell you better than i could you'd want to know things about his perspective and how he saw it or how he heard it and what exactly he perceived but as was mentioned, all of the confirmation and the
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common sense quite frankly is stacking up on the side of cassidy hutchinson here as we still sit and wait to hear an official under oath answering of questions by the agents involved in this. you have to look to the side of cassidy hutchinson that you believe. >> all members were huddling in nancy pelosi's office tonight unclear why all those she says they were just using the office space that there was nothing other than that going on but they are discussing possibly asking trump to testify but with that really happen? >> no. what they ask him perhaps. there would be some feeder behind any such request i think it would enable the committee to say he keeps complaining, no one is here to defend him this is one sided well we invited him in and he will not take it and they can say well he turned on his chance but in reality if
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they wanted his testimony they will not be able to get it because they would have to go to court and fight him and they don't have time to do that anymore. >> thanks, we appreciate that. let's not forget the former president tried to call a member of the white house support staff who was talking to the january 6 committee next talking to the man who could call him patient 04 trump pressure campaigns. that is michael cohen, he is next. that barelely touch skin
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the next hearing on the january 6 committee is scheduled for next week, committee members saying that they will present evidence that will add to the case against donald trump. that is sources tell the former president tried phoning a member of the white house support staff who was talking to the committee, the call made after cassidy hutchinson testified the sources saying that the staffer was in a position to cooperate under oath. joining me now is michael cohen, former personal attorney for donald trump. thank you sir. >> good to see you. it is interesting that you are here. >> you know it better than most
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so when you hear how trump tried to call a white house support staff member when you heard that you found it striking, why is that? >> striking because it is exactly what happened to me. i recall i was rated, on april 9, approximately a few days later i receive a phone call from a gentleman named bob castillo who by coincident happens to be rudy giuliani's friend and his current attorney in one of the things that he turned around and said and i don't want to paraphrase it i just want to give you a couple of the very same words that are going here, i spoke with rudy, very positive, you are loved. that's another one of the lines that donald uses. they put their arms around you to ensure that you stayed within the make a great statement which is that the president knows exactly what is going on, sleep tight, sleep well, you have friends in high places. >> what is that saying or sound like to you?
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you make it sounds like the president is fully aware of what is going on, he wants you to stay within his zone of comfort in terms of what you say or don't say. and if you do exactly what he says, then you will be protect did because you're being protected by someone in high place. >> i want to get to your testimony because you had testimony in 2019, the former president trying to contact someone that he didn't often or have no communication with previously is that telling to you? >> what it tells me is he extremely nervous. because first of all in my tenure with him i never saw him call anybody, he would have keith schill would do it, myself. later on he would have guys like corey, mark meadows, etc., he would never do it himself, i think the way that i know him and as well as i know him he does not trust anyone anymore, that is around him so he decided to do it himself so. >> after the capacity hutchinson
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what does that tell you. >> it is more than cassidy hutchinson and i think he is melting down but it's more than just cassidy. recently you just saw text messages come out from brad to katrina pearson, two people that were with donald going back to 2015. right from the very beginning so he sees them talking negative about him, he is nervous that everyone is jumping ship on him and worrying about themselves which they should. i should've done that myself had i done that who knows where i would had been you know come sentencing time. but that's what i believe is going on here. >> witness statement which sources tell cnn was from cassidy hutchinson about the pressure she was feeling from trump's orbit, watch this. >> what they said to me is as long as i continue to be a team player, they know i am on the right team. i'm doing the right thing. i'm protecting i need to protect. you know i will continue to
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stay in good graces in trump world. and they have reminded me a couple of times that trump does read transcripts. and just keep that in mind as i proceed through my interviews with the committee. i think most americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully presents very serious concerns. >> so the language there, about being a team player, protect and who i need to protect, you know both sides of that equation. >> i do and that's part of the playbook. i know the pressure campaign because again i was involved in the creation of the playbook. and what is interesting again on this april 21 email from bob castillo, he turns and there was never a doubt and they are in our corner. rudy said this communication channel must to be maintained. he called it crucial and noted how reassured they were that they had someone like me who
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rudy has known for many years in this role, sleep well tonight you have friends in high places. >> this you believe it was from rudy giuliani intermediary, right? >> correct. >> sources are saying people who may have been trying to influence cassidy hutchinson was a mark meadows intermediary. it has been denied. that they were trying to intimidate or influence, do you buy that? >> not for a single second it is exactly, look at the language that bob castillo used, look at the language that mark meadows used and i guarantee there are dozens of other people that they tried to reach out to with the identical language, these are donald's words. put in to an email form because of course you know he doesn't have email, no fingerprints that's his motto so somebody else has to do it. >> why would he call this time if he doesn't usually leave fingerprints? >> again he is not sure who's actually in his camp anymore, he is absolutely petrified that
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everyone has turned on him and the only person of course that he can trust would be himself but that's the dumbest move that he could have made. >> i want to get this and play part of your testimony this is from 2019, the hearing was focused on the 2016 election and you talked about how trump never directly asks for something when he wants something done he speaks in code as you are mentioning now, watch this, 2019. >> it would be no different if i said that's the nicest looking tire have ever seen. isn't it? what are you going to do, are you going to fight with him, you say yes, that's the nicest looking tire i've ever seen, that's how he speaks, he doesn't give you questions or orders, he speaks in a code. and i understand the code because i have been around him for a decade. >> it is mob like. why does he speak in code? >> because that's just the way yes and that's how he learned
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to operate from a very young age when he brought on roy as an advisor. it is never hey, what do you think, it's that, those are great glasses, aren't they? and that was going to be what he would say, you know what he wants you to say. and because he is who he is especially when he was president of the united states he knew exactly what he wanted to do. without him directly telling you what to do. >> everyone is like he is signaling today or signaling he will run for 2024 i mean is this shocking to anyone they are saying maybe he is going to do it just sort of shield himself from any sort of legal consequences with all these investigations swirling around? >> it does not shield him from anything and i've been saying this is still part of the graft and part of where he is not looking too, remember he pulled down $250 million with some nonsensical you know capital
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raise for some legal fund that nobody ever received a dollar from except for him. so he is now seeing this as four times better than the apprentice. and he is going to keep this going until such time he then turns around and says i cannot run and i will not run but i'm going to stay as a kingmaker, he has no interest in running. >> you don't think he will run? >> not at all. >> you know people watch this and the critics will say you have an ax to grind. with the former president that's why you are saying all of this stuff? >> well, so far i also told you that there would never be a peaceful transfer of power if he lost in 2020 and i also turned around and said he is the greatest after in the history of the united states presidency and i also said that he would create a war in order to prevent himself from being removed from the white house so far everything that i seem to have said and i don't call myself, i just happen to know the man and i know that he has no interest in running. because everything that he is
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doing then becomes suspect. to more scrutiny, because he will be the president. >> thank you, i appreciate you. >> a 10-year-old girl traveling across state lines to get an abortion after she was now someone on the right to call the story a lie is refusing to apologize now. >> questioning her story that she was raped and had to cross state lines to get an abortion. >> we were never questioning the child. you had me at allison® 10-speed transmission. ♪ features available on gmc sierra heavy duty. premium and capable. that's professional grade from gmc.
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this is a terrible crime, a 10-year-old girl in ohio raped and impregnated by the individual. why are they casting doubt on the story making an awful tragedy even worse. we have details. >> reporter: the alleged crime was heinous, a 10-year-old ohio girl raped, and under the new abortion ban forced to go across state lines to get the procedure. the case held up by democrats outraged now that the supreme court overturned roe v wade. >> 10 years old. 10 years old. raped, six weeks regnant, already traumatized and forced to travel to another state. >> some on the right casting doubt. >> why did the binder administration speaking of lying just repeat a story about a 10-year-old child that got pregnant and they got an abortion or was not allowed to get an abortion when the story
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is not true. >> the attorney general also suggesting it was not true. saying that he had heard not a whisper. and that prompted jim jordan to treat a story repeating the claim. another lie, anyone surprised he wrote? but it wasn't a lie. on tuesday 27-year-old arrested, charged with felony of a minor under the age of 13. and according to a detective's testimony even confessing that he raped the young girl twice. with no explanation, jordan deleted his tweets. approached by cnn, jordan offering no regrets. on noting the alleged perpetrator is an undocumented immigrant. >> this is a heinous crime by an illegal immigrant and i hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. >> do you regret saying that is is a lie? >> why did you delete the tweet?
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>> because we learned that this illegal alien to this heinous crime. so we deleted the tweet. mike did you apologize to the girl in the family for suggesting that it was a lie? >> i never doubted the child. i was responding to a headline from your profession, the news profession which happens all the time on twitter. doubted joe biden which is usually a smart thing to do based on all the things that he says the are not accurate. but there was no evidence. washington post. wall street journal, the attorney general said the same thing so that's why. >> your questioning her story that she was raped. >> it came across as what joe biden had talked about and others had talked about we were never questioning the child. >> the incident occurred on may 12, and police were alerted to the girls pregnancy in late june. forced to travel across state
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lines now the ohio bans abortions as early as six weeks into her pregnancy. jordan could be the next house judiciary would not say if he believes young rape victims should carry their babies to term. >> do you think a 10-year-old should be able to get an abortion if she is raped? >> what is your preference? >> i agree with the court's decision. >> there was an emotional fight in the senate and was democrats tried to get a bill passed that would allow women to go across state lines to have an abortion, republicans blocked that measure. one republican steve daines in montana said quote this would give free reign to commit abortions on demand. >> thank you for that, it is a sad fact that this is where we are now. it is a reality in a post-roe america are we ready for what
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a 10-year-old girl, raped and forced to travel across state lines to get an abortion. this is a new reality in our country and i want to discuss now with political commentator scott jennings and analyst kristin powers. thank you for joining us, kiersten listen, this is despicable that this tragedy has become political but the reality is this is what a post- roe america looks like a 10- year-old rape victim has to travel across state lines to get the medical care that she needs. >> right but and it is hard to even say that she is lucky anyway because she is obviously not lucky but at least there was a place for her to go. to actually get an abortion and
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there are people certainly in the state she went to who would like very much for that to not have been the case. so this is predictably what was going to happen and i think the idea that women, children would be forced to give birth to i would say to any child that they don't want to especially if we are talking about a 10- year-old. you know as the result of rape is just sick. imagine, i don't know what else to call it, something is very wrong. when you have people actually defending this and there are people that are defending this. including the person from the national right to life committee that drafted this sort of model legislation saying that this 10-year-old should have been forced to give birth and that at some point she would hopefully come to understand the reason and the benefit, the benefit of giving birth to her rapist's child,
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this is a person who holds a position my senior position in the national right to life movement so this is just extremist behavior. and it is scary. i mean i think people should be very scared. >> we will talk more about that quote that you mentioned the benefit but i want to hear scott's response because some republicans you know who support the most restrictive abortion laws tried to pretend that this tragedy didn't happened and others say that it is rare but according to the department of health 52 girls under the age of 14 had abortions in 2020 in that state alone. so what is going to happen to all of those young girls in this scenario now? >> a couple things i want to hear more about, number one is what ohio law actually allow because some people think she might not have had to have crossed over to indiana i know that she did go there for that procedure so i want to hear more about that because in a post-roe world this is going to be the law, what the state says, not what the supreme court says so that is number
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one, number two regarding the skepticism and i want to freely admit i was skeptical of the story when it first came out you had a story with one source there were no police reports or arrests, no government sources so i was initially very skeptical of it. and then the police then finally made an arrest and made an announcement and at that point all you can really do is just to dwell on the tragedy of it. >> you didn't go on twitter and you know mocking the story. >> i will say on sunday morning i was on state of the union with jake tapper and it was brought up by the mayor of cincinnati and i said i just read this piece in the washington post the fact checker he was skeptical of it saying we needed more facts, i agreed with that at the time. we had that one story so i knew a lot of conservatives that were skeptical of it because there had been moments you know over the past several years where things have popped up and we have been skeptical and it turned out not to be. >> the source of the story was a first-hand source, she didn't
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name the child because it was a minor. >> i'm telling you, yes. >> do you regret that? no. >> the doctor's job is to protect the patient. >> i don't regret being skeptical of a single source story. once the police came and i believe that it happened. i don't have any skepticism of it now and i don't really know any republicans that do but at the time last week there was a lot of skepticism of it and i honestly think part of the reason is when joe biden says something, it makes a lot of republicans skeptical of it and i heard jim george saying that earlier so that is the nature of our politics now unfortunately. >> go ahead. what is the skepticism about if it is a first-hand source being a doctor. >> yes, also it doesn't take a lot of imagination to understand that these kinds of things are going to happen so it's not that far-fetched in my mind so i don't know but scott
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if you were skeptical you were skeptical i think that other people went a lot farther than just ping skeptical i'm in the wall street journal was really mocking the idea of it. calling it fanciful, and so i think jim jordan wasn't just being skeptical i think they were going a lot further and tucker carlson saying it didn't happen. that's a little different than skepticism. but you know the bottom line is these kinds of things are going to happen. it does so happen that is did happen. but this is what abortion right supporters have been saying. that this is the world that we are going to live in if roe is overturned. because there are people who hold very extremist views, i don't know how else to describe this, they are extremist and outside of the mainstream. >> i want to put this up, this is a quote there is something else that i want to talk about here, this is the general counsel of the national right to life spoke to politico about
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this case in ohio and saying in part she should've had the baby. and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child. this is a child having a childlike what is therefore a child? >> it is repulsive, it is a 10- year-old and what is he talking about many women who have had given birth to their rapist child. who is he talking about? i don't know any, a single woman okay, i have been on this earth for a while i don't know a single woman who has ever said that and i'm not saying they don't exist i'm just saying they are not falling out of trees. so i guess he knows them but the way many women i don't know what he is talking about. >> we are talking about a 10- year-old but women also who aren't 10-year-olds should not have to be forced to give birth to their rapist's child, you don't have to be a child in
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order for people to see that that is wrong. >> she is 10 years old, it's hard to i mean it's hard to imagine how you would believe that forcing a 10-year-old to give birth was the right thing in this case. >> instead of focusing on the , they are going after the doctor who performed the abortion, he released a statement saying in part aside from the horror caused here by illegal immigration we are investigating the situation and are waiting for the relevant documents to prove if the abortion and/or the abuse were reported as doctor caitlin bernard had requirements to do under indiana law, the failure to do so could constitute a crime in indiana. and her behavior could also affect her licensure. i mean doctor bernard's attorney says she filed and followed all the policies and regulations in this case and has not violated any law is that the goal here to punish
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doctors and scare them into refusing to help patients like this 10-year-old girl? >> i have seen people raise questions about the reporting of this thing wyatt went public and why the police didn't make an announcement i have seen all these things raised, i truthfully don't know what the law is in indiana. it is him top to bottom. >> do you think they should go after the doctor. >> i don't know. i don't know what the law is. i mean the situation is terrible all the way around. i don't know what enough about indiana law to tell you whether they should or shouldn't. >> kiersten i will give you the last word. >> well i just think there is all this skepticism about this story that ends up being true but there is like zero skepticism about going after the doctor. so it's like there is no evidence that she did anything wrong. and yet you have republicans and have the attorney general threatening her and in fact there is a lot of evidence at least in what i have read that she didn't do anything wrong but she did reported and i'm
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not sure why she wouldn't anyway. like i don't even know like what this is about it seems like a distraction. to try to distract away from what the issue which is that a child you know, some people would've liked to have a, forced a 10-year-old to have a baby and she actually had to flee to another state to get an abortion. >> yeah. we will be right back. utrient formula can help reduce the risk of dry amdmd progression. ask your doctor now about an areds 2 supplement.
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this is "the planning effect" from fidelity. the trump family tonight confirming the death of ivana trump, the ex-wife of donald trump and mother of don junior, ivanka and eric. she was found dead in her new york city home at the age of 73 the cause of death has not yet been announced. here's cnn's kate bennett. >> ivana trump, first wife of former president donald trump, died at 73 in her new york city home. donald trump released a statement thursday afternoon, saying, quote, she was a
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wonderful beautiful an amazing woman. who let a great and inspirational life. her pride and joy were her three children, donald junior ivanka and eric. she was so proud of them. as we were also proud of her. rest in peace ivana. >> she was a special woman. >> the couple married in 1977. ivana, originally from czechoslovakia, where she was a champion skier and later a model, meeting donald trump in new york, as his real estate career was taking off. even a trump joined right along. a headstrong businesswoman, working with trump to help design, open and operate several trump properties. >> i was running three casinos in atlantic city for ten years, going on helicopters at seven clock in a more in the morning from new york. landing on the roof, going 6:00 back home, children, homework. >> his partner in business as well as in matrimony. >> these people were the new stars of the late 80s. >> the couple soon becoming a
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powerful force on manhattan's posh social scene. defining 80s excess, wealth entertainment and celebrity. ivana and trump had three children, with even a writing in a 2017 member, raising trump, she was the parent primarily responsible for the upbringing of don junior, ivanka and eric. but the trump marriage crumbled in the late 19 80s. donald trump's affair with marla maples, who would become his second wife, making tabloid headlines. a messy public divorce soon followed. >> you are devastated of course, but then it is a stage when you come in and you say why me, you get angry. >> ivana and donald trump would later mend their relationship, in 2017 even said donald trump had offered her the role of ambassador to the czech republic. which she shed she declined. ivana trump would go on to mary two more times. she also wrote self-help books and created jewelry beauty and clothing lines, sean sacha
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shopping networks, she made a famous cameo in the 1996 film, the first wives club, playing herself and honoring the famous line. >> don't get mad, get everything. >> eric trump posting on thursday afternoon about ivana, our mother was an incredible woman. a force in business, a world-class athlete, a radiant beauty and caring mother and friend. even a trump was a survivor. later this evening, even ivanka trump also post on her social media about the loss of her mother who she called wickedly funny and brilliant. she said she will always hold her memory in her heart. john, back to you. >> kate bennett, thank you very much. it may come as a surprise to some of you, but i knew even a trump, i knew her very well, i had seen her twice a year at clive davis would have events and invite a bunch of people over and ivana was their. and guess what? i know members of the trump family don't often have very nice things to say about me,
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here's what's new tonight, a d.c. police officer corroborating details of a heated exchange between then president trump and secret service members on january 6th. and new reportin

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