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than done. we should mention that in arizona, a temperature of 100 or 104 is like a cool summer day there. but here in the uk, it's truly dangerous, with the government telling people not to go anywhere and not to do anything until the heat subsides. >> incredible. sara sidner, thank you. live from london tonight. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. the first trial, the first person charged with denying a subpoena to appear before the house january 6 committee is now fully under way. we're not just talking about any person. this is steve bannon, one-time "time" magazine cover boy who was in and out of the president's administration and whose name has come up with the january 6 committee hearings. in opening statements today, federal prosecutors argue the right wing podcaster put himself above the law. the defense suggesting the
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contempt of congress charges were politically motivated. proceedings began after the judge denied a defense request for a delay. last week he rejected executive privilege leading one defense attorney to ask, what's the point of going to trial if there are no defenses, to which the judge replied, agreed. this is the same steve bannon who promised as he made his first court appearance to make this the misdemeanor from hell. the same steve bannon who as he recently offered to appear live before the select committee expressed contempt for the members and tried to set conditions for his testimony. >> here is what i need. give me a date, a time, a room number, a microphone and a bible that i can take the oath on. deliver that. we will see how good you are,
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raskin and cheney. serve it up. >> surprised he isn't speaking about himself in the third person. when people view themselves as important, they reach peak pomposity and do that. to get a subpoena means you appear. there's no option to negotiate terms. that hasn't stopped members of the former administration from trying. there's no option to simply say no as bannon has. it's understandable why a committee might want to hear from steve bannon. he was a leading cheerleader by his own claims a leading voice in it all. >> live from our nation's cap capital, you are in the field headquarters of one of the s divisions of the bloodless coup, step by step by step by step, day by day, understanding we're all going to converge on that point on the 6th. >> he said a lot of things like that. more specifically, the committee is interested in his calls with the former president and what he said after one of them.
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>> the committee has learned from the white house phone logs that the president spoke to steve bannon, his advisor, at least twice on january 5th. the first conversation they had lasted for 11 minutes. listen to what mr. bannon said that day after the first call he had with the president. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's all converging and now we're on, as they say, the point of attack. the point the attack tomorrow. i will tell you this. it's not going to happen like you think it's going to happen. it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. all i can say is, strap in. >> from those same phone logs we know the president and mr. bannon spoke on the phone that evening, this time for six minutes. >> the judge, a trump appointee, ruled out executive privilege and other potential defense arguments leaving steve bannon
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with not many options and no way to make good on this threat. >> pray for our enemies. we're going to medieval on these people. we're going to savage our enemies. pray for them. who needs prayers? not maga. not steven bannon. >> i spoke too soon. he is speaking about himself in the third person. sounding like i did when i was 11 and playing dungeons and dragons. we were in the courtroom toward. moments ago, steve bannon spoke out. what was it like inside the courtroom today? >> reporter: when he withe arri, we thought it would be smooth. the case would get off quickly. the jury would be seated and off to the races with opening statements. that's not what happened at all. i want to highlight a little bit what -- what steve bannon said outside the court. it echoed some of the strategy that his lawyers were trying inside the court. here he is after court ended today.
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>> bennie thompson send a staffer over here. where is bennie thompson? we subpoenaed thompson and they are hiding behind these phony privileges. he is too gutless to come over here himself. he made it a crime, a crime, not a civil charge of wanting my testimony but a crime. he didn't have the courage or guts to show up here. he sent a staffer. i challenge bennie thompson today to have the courage to come to this courthouse. if he is going to charge somebody, he will be man enough to show up here. >> reporter: he is calling for a house select committee chair to come down the street to testify in court. that sounds like political bluster, but that's something his attorneys have tried to argue in this case. they wanted to subpoena members of congress, members of the committee, thompson. the judge said no, that's not going to happen at this time. maybe in a very sliver of a chance later on. right now, that wasn't going to happen.
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that was reflective of the approach in court of his attorneys today. they kept trying to wedge things back into this case. the judge had already said, it's not going to happen. really, that's what consumed most of the morning. i said, we thought it was going to go smoothly. we ended up not starting with the jury sworn in until 1:00. that's because his attorneys kept asking for things. they kept raising things like that they wanted to delay the trial again. they asked for a month delay, maybe delay it to -- on friday or on monday. the judge said no. they are not going to be able to bring executive privilege, what donald trump was telling him, what his attorneys were telling him into the case as we know it right now. >> what's the core of the case the government has put together against him? >> reporter: the government's case is simple. it's straightforward. it's efficient. that's how they have been approaching it from the beginning. that's really what we saw from them today in their opening statements. they framed it as, this isn't just a contempt of congress case. steve bannon has contempt for
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congress. they really tried to simplify this down for the jury, not get into the privilege ideas, which they can't. they really, really wanted to show that bannon had a firm date where he needed to turn over documents and he needed to show up for testimony, and he defied that willingly. that is what they have been trying to show. one of their witnesses, we saw the first witness, she's a deputy with the house select committee. the questions were very straightforward. did he turn over documents on that date he needed to, october 7? she said, he did not. then she was asked, did he show up for testimony at 10:00 a.m. on october 14th, the date his subpoena said he should? her answer was, he did not. >> thanks. appreciate it. joining us now, drew gr griffin, whose special report aired over the weekend. also john dean served as white house counsel in the nixon aminute administration and abby
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phillip, anchor of "inside politics sunday." what do you make of the defense here, john? of his argument. >> it's a weak defense. he is trying to say, this is a witch hunt and everything is political. of course. it's a political body that took this action against his co contempt. it's not a winning argument. the government is going to say, of course they're political. they are doing what they are charged to do by the house. he is defying t. it's a simple case. >> abbey, we saw bannon leave the court, and try to get into some challenge with select committee chairman bennie thompson, chiding him for not showing up. steve bannon is a podcaster accused of breaking the law. the staffer who apparently was on the witness stand, i assume that's the staffer who was sent, was basically just asked basic questions, did he provide documents, did he show up.
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>> the government's case is straightforward. steve bannon was served a subpoena. he didn't answer it. didn't even attempt to answer it. showed contempt for the process, for the institution of congress. that, as far as steve bannon is concerned, is the point. bannon has always been about really undermining institutions like congress, defying them, flagrantly. in an effort to make the point that they are, in his mind, illegitimate. it doesn't surprise me that these proceedings have gone along these lines, with bannon continuing to put on a show for his podcast audience. that is ultimately what this is about. he really does have an audience of one at the end of the day. that is still donald trump. i still think that in a lot of ways bannon is acting in a way that he believes trump would be pleased with. in fact, from the evidence that we have, trump is pleased with
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how bannon has been defying congress up until this point. >> drew, as we mentioned, this report about bannon, the special report, i want to play one particularly relevant part for our viewers. >> outside a recent hearing in his case, cnn caught up to steve bannon. why do you push the lies that the 2020 election was stolen? >> it's not a lie. >> you have no prove. we looked at all the facts. you don't have the facts. rudy doesn't have facts. >> do me a favor. i want to sit down with you for two hours and go through the evidence. >> okay. how about friday? >> done. >> despite that pledge, the interview never happened. bannon ultimately ignored all our requests for interviews. >> bannon's defense team used the airing of your documentary as an argument to delay his trial. that failed. >> yeah. like all his other motions and last minute appeals to try to stop this trial failed. he was promoting our documentary
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on his own show at the same time his attorneys were telling a judge because of the pre-trial publicity they should delay it. i fool for congress. we were trying to get an interview with steve bannon for many, many months. he dragged us along or his people dragged us along. as you saw there, even after he promised to sit down and talk to us all about how the election was, in fact, stolen, he just blew us off basically. because he can't defend that. he is looking for a show, like abbey said. he can't reasonably de23fend an of his positions. the odds are if he did answer his subpoena and walk into congress, he would have be talking to investigators who would be asking him about facts, not bluster. >> john, the justice department -- their argument is the subpoena was man do torrey, not optional. as we have seen, there's a long list of people, mark meadows and
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others, who have just ignored these subpoenas. mark meadows sort of gave some information to the committee, dance scavino. does it hurt the case against bannon that others -- >> i don't think it's relevant. bannon might try to get it in. it's not going to happen. he committed his crime. that's what will be the focus. >> it's that cut and dry? >> absolutely. we can see it -- this is a cut and dry judge. he is having no play with this nonsense that's going on. >> he told the january 6 committee he is willing to testify at a public hearing. that's not going to happen. is there more clarity how the committee is ultimately going to handle steve bannon? >> more than likely, the committee -- they have said -- one of the members told cnn that they still want to talk to him. they will probably have an interview with him in a closed door setting, which they have
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done with all of the witnesses. a closed door setting first. then possibly a public setting. i don't think bannon will be in the category of people that they are going to have in a public setting. bannon would make a mockery of that process. i think that they are very much aware of that. what they want to do is just get him on the record. i do think there are some questions about whether bannon even really respects this idea that when you swear under oath that you are not going to lie to congress, that that means you don't lie to congress. we will see how that would turn out in a private interview. ultimately, that's what the january 6 committee wants, they want him under oath, on the record, probably with the lawyers and not even with the committee members, just to get on the record whether he is pleading the fifth or his side of the story as far as they are concerned. >> drew, the various iterations of steve bannon, fascinating in your documentary, kind of showed this on the cover of "time,"
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carried himself as the person who helped trump win the presidency. as a co-campaign manager. then fell out of favor with the white house. banished from the white house, t trump was bad-mouthing him. trump likes him again. he gained power politically within the trump movement. trumpism for pushing the election lie. >> yeah. in our report, we looked at steve bannon and steve bannon's long game. it was eyea long game that bega before donald trump. that's the danger here that we might be missing in some of this. steve bannon has start aid political movement based on a lie. we may believe in our heart that no one could possibly follow him. he is very adept at motivating people who believe in that lie and believe that they are somehow aggrieved by this election loss, to action. he is getting people to run for
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offices who are election deniers. he is setting up a scene where in 2024, we may actually have election deniers who have overseeing the vote. that's the real danger that we found in our documentary. he is doing it all on this podcast which has millions and millions of followers who basically live within the echo chamber he developed. i don't think you can overlook that in terms of his political power. it's not just about trump. it's about his view of what the united states and the world should be. i think many people would be frightened of that. >> interesting. drew, john, abbey, thank you. a development in georgia's investigation of attempts to overturn election results there. a shift prosecutors say that all 16 so-called fake electors part of the former president's scheme and who signed an unofficial electoral certificate that was sent to the nargsal archives are
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now targets of a criminal probe. they have gotten target letters. we have the latest. what have you learned? >> reporter: this is major. so significant because it shows that the district attorney could be inching toward potential criminal charges in her probe as she looks for potential election interference in the state of georgia. we know that the 16 electors had been -- some had been cooperating. this is the first time that we are hearing that the 16 electors could face potential criminal charges. according to one of the attorneys for many of the electors, some of them had been cooperating as witnesses but not as targets. that changed acording to court filings in late june when attorneys for the office say that new evidence came to light. attorneys for the electors are pushing back on this claim. they are saying that this is all a publicity stunt and that the electors agreed to be witnesses for the investigation. it was not in good faith. why this is so significant is, it shows that willis is
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potentially inching closer towards criminal charges. it shows just how wide ranging, wide reaching and the broad scope of her investigation as well. >> is there any indication this investigation is drawing closer to the former president? >> there is. it does suggest that this may be drawing closer to former president trump. we should remind our viewers, it was earlier this month that seven key trump allies were given subpoenaed, that includes rudy giuliani as well as senator lindsey graham as well as five legal advisers to the trump campaign. we will see legal wrangling before there's any resolution. >> appreciate it. the secret service text messages the select committee wants from january 5 and 6, and why they don't have them. what happens if they were deleted despite two warnings from congress not to do that. big parts of europe not just baking but burning up as well. we will show you where the worst
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one of the hottest topics of the january 6 hearings is the role of the secret service, whether involving the former president's alleged anger or former vice president's concern that his detail might whisk him away from the capitol keeping him from doing his duty. they subpoenaed the secret service for documents, calls and text messages. today, the agency delivered a first installment but minus any texts. at this point, is there any chance the text messages in question can be recovered? >> reporter: there is a question. no one seems to have the answer to it. the secret service can't seem to say with specificity whether or not they think these messages can be recovered. they are suggesting maybe they never existed. their agency never used text messages to communicate during that period of time.
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the january 6 committee keeps asking over and over for specific information about where these texts are and if they can ever be retrieved. i talked to jamie raskin earlier today. he said, they aren't getting answers yet. they promised they were going to push forward and not quit asking those questions until they get the answers. then if they don't get the answers they are looking for, they will try to figure out what to do next. >> it's an extraordinary situation. the idea that on such an important event, there would be missing text messages. then the lack of clarity still continuing. >> yeah. i think that's aen important part. part of what the select committee wants to know is how these agents communicated with each other during this crucial period of time. if it wasn't through text messages, was it through some other form of communication? that's part of the reason they issued this subpoena asking for a wide range of records so they can sift through all of it and see if they can get the answers
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they're looking for. there's no doubt that the secret service has been evasive in their answering of some of the questions. it's one of the reasons the inspector general was frustrated by his look into this information. it's one of the reasons the committee continues to press the secret service for answers. >> they're not the only ones investigating these text messages. >> that's right. now the national archives is involved. they sent a letter today to the department of homeland security which is the agency that oversees the secret service. asking them to look into this lack of text messages being available between the days of january 5th and january 6th. the national archives have given the department of homeland security and the secret service 30 days to come up with an explanation where they went. secret service has said they are ready to comply. there's a lot of weight behind this request by the national archives. it's against the law to delete or destroy federal records.
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the national archives could refer this to the department of justice if they aren't satisfied with the answers they are given by the department of homeland security or secret service. >> appreciate it. the national ar kchives putting the secret service on notice. asking for an explanation should the messages turn out to have been deleted. from this report, it must include a district of the records affects, a statement of the acts, circumstances surrounding the deletion, a statement of the safeguards established to prevent further loss of documentation and details of all agency actions taken. the strongly worded letter from former kansas governor john karlin who was the archivist from 1995 to 2005. do you think the request from the national archives to the secret service is the appropriate action for them to take here?
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>> absolutely. quite frankly, one of the main functions of the archives is to get access to records. without those records, you can't hold government accountable. that's across the board. regardless what situation we are talking about. it's a basic, fundamental fact that without those records, you can't have the full accountability. absolutely, i have seen the letter that went out from the archives. laid out very specifically their carrying out their role as the keeper of all the records with the responsibility to seeing they are created, preserved and made accessible. >> how unusual is a request like this? >> very unusual. very unusual.
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i mean, my time -- i go back to ten years working with the nixon records. that was a somewhat similar, over a long period of time, but i can't think of any other experience where it got much attention. there might be things that don't get in the press or get out of the attention of maybe a couple people in the archives. situation like this, not very often. >> do the archives have any way to enforce their request? is it basically up to the secret service to comply? >> it's up to the secret service. unfortunately, in my opinion, the archives have no support or even appropriations for -- they're just doing it out of their basic budget.
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all they can do is -- as this letter points out very clearly, it is their responsibility, the law is very clear, all presidential records are official records, permanent records to be made eventually available to the public, in this case before the public gets access totally. >> if the request isn't fulfilled or ignored by the secret service, what kind of precedent would that set for the future? >> it would be a very bad one if the congress or the courts don't follow through. in some way make it clear. the archives have no -- i don't know of any action they can take. certainly, it would have to be a part of at least some of what is sent forward in the final january 6 committee work. what the department of justice can do, i do not know. the archives have done and
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follow through and carried out their responsibility. i'm proud of them sglt . >> the previous administration flouted laws. he ripped documents that had to be taped back together. they used encrypted apps to communicate. do you think that's a new standard or a new low as far as archives? do you worry about other administrations in the future deciding, let's just use encrypted apps like they did? >> anderson, what you shared has to be dealt with at some point very clearly by the government. i don't know -- i'm not in a position to say, okay, who does what. it's got to be made clear that future administrations cannot just use this as an excuse. somebody got away with it. let's establish the pattern. no. that would be incredibly damaging to our democracy and
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the rule of law. unbelievably damaging if that became a pattern. >> governor, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> you are most welcome. thank you for covering this. coming up, news just in to cnn. uvalde district police chief pete arredondo, shimon prokupecz, his report, the latest on his fafate. it's easier t to do more innovative things. [whistlingng]
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there's new action under discussion against uvalde school district police chief pete arredondo. as we told you last night, the new report from the texas house committee says this about his response. quote, as events unfolded, he failed to perform or transfer to another person the role of incident commander. it took place more than an hour to storm the classroom, killed gunman, 19 students, two teachers were killed in the shooting. last night at the school board meeting in uvalde, a relative of a forth grade shooting victim demanded action from the school board. >> you are standing by and paying him to take a vacation. correct? >> he is on administrative leave. we received this information yesterday. one of the things it did say when he went on administrative leave, we were going to wait for information to come forward to help us in our decision making process. i will stick to that.
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>> i tell you this. if he is not fired by noon tomorrow, then i want your resignation and every single one of you board members because you do not give a damn about our children or our us. [ applause ] stand with us or against us. we ain't going nowhere. >> joining us from texas is shim sh shimon prokupecz. what you have learned about whether he may be removed? >> reporter: that process is under way. i'm told by school officials they want him terminated. they want him gone. they listened to those parents in that meeting. i was there. it was incredible to watch. it was the first time -- we heard them sort of demand accountability. it was the first time where you felt that they had confidence, they were coming together as one
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to ask for accountability. that was the biggest thing that they wanted. they wanted pete arredondo fired. they want him gone. now it looks like that process is under way. school officials listening to those parents. i'm told that they do -- the school wants him terminated. there's a process now. it's under way. the one thing is that he could -- he could resign before ultimately that decision is made. he is under contract. there's other things going on here. we wait to see what happens in the next few days. >> you repeatedly tried to talk to chief arredondo to get very basic questions. you caught up with him in early june. he wasn't forthcoming. i want to play part of what he did say to you. >> ware noe're not going to rel anything. we have people being buried. >> i want your reaction to the direction that they were saying you were responsible for the decision. how do you explain yourself?
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>> we will be respectful to the family. >> i understand that. you have an opportunity to explain yourself to the parents. >> we're going to do that eventually. >> when? >> when this is done. the families grieve and we will do that. >> whenever the family quit grieving. he was trying to turn it on as though you were being disrespectful of asking these questions while people were gri grieves as if there's an end to the grief. i spoke to a stepdad of a child murdered. he said anyone who says they are withholding information for the benefit of the families is lying. if someone has any information how this happened, they want it now. he also talked about the families coming together. cnn reached out to arredondo's lawyer. has there been any response? >> reporter: no response. that's typical with arredondo's side. arredondo has talked. he talked to the texas "tribune," he claimed he didn't get a sense he was the on-scene
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commander. when you look at that bodycam footage, and you look at that hallway footage that was released, you can tell that, yes, there was no leadership. but there are people on the body camera footage saying, pete arredondo is with the gunman. he is there. he is in charge. he is making decisions. you hear pete arredondo trying to negotiate with the gunman. some of the family members have watched that bodycam footage, watched the hallway footage. watching that, you could tell that their reaction to what they have seen, they felt the confidence and strength to come forward and demand accountability. that's why they want information. they need information. they know that something here is wrong. there was a coverup. they were not given the truth. they want those answers. then it doesn't stop with pete arredondo. the families will go after other people to in that hallway and also other school officials. >> as the report says, there
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were a lot of different agencies there. a lot of responsibility which we need to learn more about. shimon, appreciate it. the global heat wave that has helped fuel wildfires across europe and selt record high temperatures across the u.s. including texte ing texas and o. one u.p.s. driver trying to work in this environment and a live report from paris on what's going on.
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new video about the global heat wave. a u.p.s. driver in arizona was delivering packages in 108 degree weather. he has difficulty walking up to the house. he bends over to put down an envelope and slumps to the ground. he fell on his back. he got back up. rang the doorbell, walked away. the man inside the home didn't see the video until later. he called police and u.p.s. to check on the driver. u.p.s. says the driver called for assistance. more than 100 million americans are under heat alerts. high temperatures in texas and oklahoma today. in texas, officials say a firefighter suffered heat exhaustion battling a wildfire. texas a&m forest service expects the threat of fires to remain high. 99% of the state is experiencing some level of drought. m
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extreme heat is a problem here as well as in europe. >> reporter: a fire rages threw a field in spain as homes burn. in greater london, a house is swallowed by wildfire. these just some of the many sweeping across europe why temperatures have soared in a heat emergency that stretches across the globe. china's heat wave began last week with 51 cities, including beijing, now under the second highest heat alert level. european cities sweltered under new highs in what is the continent's second heat wave of the summer, now entering its second week. ireland seeing its hottest day in a century. in the united kingdom, temperatures reached 104 degrees. a first. with london's fire brigade declariing a major incident because of a huge surge in fires across the capital. >> we have to adopt. our homes have to change. our way of life has to change.
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>> reporter: in france, the temperatures reached 104 degrees. difficult enough for paris, which is not accustom to such extreme temperatures, but down in the southwest of france, the impact has been far more deaf st devastating. the president is under official from local officials who accuse him of not having done enough soon enough. near bordeaux, wildfires have continued to spread. burning through still more of the pine forests that run down to spain. tens of thousands of people have been forced to evacuate their homes in southern europe. the extreme heat causing fires in texas and causing the plains to swelter all the way up to the dakotas. temperatures as high as 110 feeling as high as 115. experts say that climate change can no longer be ignored. >> we're talking about weather events we probably would have expected a decade or two down
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the line. we know the temperatures were coming. >> reporter: for many people, this tuesday brought the temperatures and those weather events into far sharper focus. here in paris, it's just started raining. a thunderstorm that's likely to prove short respite. that heat wave expected to continue into the middle of next week. terrible news for the many hundreds of thousands of firefighters trying to bring those fires under control, not just in greece, spain and italy, countries that were accustom to seeing them, but in bordeaux and as far north as london. parts of the world where you couldn't have imagine anything like this. it is then when people three their homes, houses are destroyed, the reality of climate change comes home. the politics of climate change in the u.s. and how one democratic senator thwarted his party's attempt to pass a bill
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president biden to announce some action on climate change particularly after west virginia senator joe manchin told his delano democrats he would not support the climate provisions in a large economic package. the democrats want to pass it and campaign on it according to sources who spoke to cnn. one of those sources said that senator manchin had supported the climate provisions plus taxes to pay for the package. democrats need his vote in the 50/50 senate. manchin is up for re-election in two years. like a state benefits from the energy-efficient. more on what joe manchin may be after. >> let me make very clear -- >> reporter: congress fed with senator joe manchin. >> hard to think of someone who has been more effective at undermining a president of his own party. than senator manchin. >> it's not fair to string people along for a year and not come to a conclusion.
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it's not an appropriate way to negotiate. >> 50/50 senate sucks. so that's it. >> reporter: biden initially wanted a $3.5 trillion bill to expand the social safety net. >> the agenda in these bills is what 81 million americans voted for. >> reporter: for months, manchin and the president negotiated with manchin even secretly p proposing to chuck schumer he would agree to a bill half its size. after the white house came down to $1.75 trillion, mansion derailed the effort saying he was filled with budget gimmicks. >> no on this legislation. >> reporter: schumer has been quietly in tax with manchin on a plan. after believe they were close to a deal along with tax hikes to may for it, manchin indicated he favored a narrower bill focused on prescription drug prices and health care subsidies. how do you respond to the
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criticism from your colleagues you strung them along for a year and at the end of the day you pulled the plug. >> i was the first one to raise the alarm on inflation. i am worried about the person that can't feed their family. so i am sorry. if they don't care about that, i could. >> reporter: manchin, who lives on a 65 foot boat in d.c. has been criticized for ties to the energy industry as he has benefitted from $1 million in campaign donations from the oil and gas industry the past five years, he has financial holdings between $1,000,005,000,000 in a coal business he founded. but he says that has nothing to do with his position. >> it's your personal ties to the coal industry or financial ties. >> you know what? everyone has a job. everyone has made a living or provided for their family. if they want to criticize that and looking for some reason, the bottom line is inflation. >> reporter: the reality? manchin is a rare democratic from a state that donald trump carried by nearly 40 points with manchin only winning re-election
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in 2018 by just three. the former west virginia university football player and ex-governor, manchin won his first race in 2010 after vowing to literally shoot down his party's climate change bill. >> i'll take dead aim at the cap and trade bill. because it's bad for west virginia. >> reporter: moderates say he is reining in the party's ex treatments, broken an infrastructure package and a gun violence bill that biden signed into law. are you happy? >> i am happy he moderates many a times. >> he is with us 70, 75, 08%. time. nobody agrees with everybody 100% of the time. >> reporter: he along with kyrsten sinema refused to change filibuster rules, he has become a gop trlg darling. >> would you support him if he ran in 2024? >> absolutely. >> reporter: how helpful has he been to republicans in the 50 senate? >> i think helpful to the country. >> reporter: some say he should
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just change parties. >> you keep hearing republicans saying he should join our conference. what do you say to that? >> see you later. >> still a strong likelihood that some legislation could get to president biden's desk in the coming weeks. that focusing on health care issues, namely allowing medicare, the power to negotiate the prices of prescription drugs as well as extending the expiring subsidies under the affordable care act, democrats are using the budget rules to pass that. of course, they need all 50 democrats to get onboard because no republicans plan to join them and that means at the ep of the day they need joe manchin. >> great report. thank you. up next, the world's sharpest close up of jupiter and its moons from the new stays telescope. incredible images.
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a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose. something that may take a mental load off. it comes from nasa who last week showed the world mind blowing images, including a galaxy cluster from the james webb space telescope which has turned its focus on something closer to planet earth. jupiter. the biggest planet in our solar system. a near 430 million miles away. the great led spotty, a storm big enough to swallow earth. you see the shadow of europa,
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one of jupiter's orbiting moons as well. there are new photos giving us another view of europa and two other moons. you can see jupiter's hard to see rings. it's proof that webb can pick up pale objects and capture detail on bright, fast moving objects. the news continues. laura. >> thanks, anderson. and thank you all. i'm laura coats and this is "cnn tonight." guess what? the missing texts from secret service from january 5th and january 6th are still missing. and, no, they have not been handed over to the january 6th committee. and now the national archives wants answers about the, quote, unquote, potential unauthorized deletion. forget about trump's closest advisors. secret service was omnipresent. full stop. the texts written by the agents who would have been, by necessity, in the rooms where it happened could be the ke
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