tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 20, 2022 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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>> good evening with the house january six committee gearing up for primetime finale tomorrow. we begin tonight with the headline that makes a good case as any for the committee's existence. and certainly underscores the threat to democracy that has not gone away. at first, you may think, it's a typo! but it's not! wisconsin assembly speaker says trump called him this month to decertify the 2020 election that's the headline. the story comes in the wake of the state court ruling on ballot drop boxes in future elections. not at the last one. wisconsin's assembly speaker, a republican, and saying the former president called him last week. trying to overturn his 2020 defeat. last week as the speaker
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pointed i. understand it's not -- different opinion. in other words, trump may be sweating and doing in mar-a-lago. but he is still at it. and there were other warnings signs as well today. arizona house speaker rusty bowers, remember him? lifelong republican who refused to buckle to pressure from the former president. and testified a motion only before the select committee. well we learned he was just censured by the state party. which declared him no longer a republican in good standing. in maryland last, night primary voters chose dan, cox a proponent of the 2020 election like to be the republican nominee for governor. he once called on the former president to seize voting machines. he also sponsored buses to take people to the so-called, stop the steal rally on january 6th. and that afternoon, he tweeted, mike pence is a trader. so, there is. that there is also this that we got today, having to do with former white house aide garrett ziegler. according to new york times, he has supported michael flynn and sidney powell into the white house with that unhinged meeting on december 18th. ziegler met with the select committee earlier this week
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saying this, afterwards about this members on telegram. >> their bolsheviks. i know sway people in general. this is a bush of a stick, anti white campaign. if you can't see, that your eyes are freaking close. and so, they see me as a young christian who they can try to basically scare, right? >> that guy was an aide to the president. this is time for 27 minutes during which they use bulger and misogynistic language to attack two other witnesses, cassidy hutchison and grab that. as for the secret service text messages that are missing from the safe. we learned that of the messages sent to receive of 24 individuals, the agency has only managed to provide the select committee with one single exchange. the committee elation leadership said they have concerns. so, if all that falls on when you make all the debit side of the ballot she.
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there are also items on the other side. new york judge today ordering rudy giuliani to appear before the georgia grand jury, probing election interference. their bipartisan group of -- beefing up the election to count act, which would make it harder to me -- an attorney general garland today has drawn the signal that when it comes to bring criminal charges in connection to the former president, and no one is immune to prosecution. >> no person [inaudible] can -- i cannot say many more clearly than that to prevent us from investigating anyone, anyone, who is criminally responsible. for an attempt to undo a democratic election. >> as for the committee's business tomorrow. the final hearing expected to
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focus on the former president what he did, and most importantly, what he did not do for three hours and seven minutes. as of the mob he invited and then incited, and ransacked the capital. former white house secretary, -- matthew pottinger. here is somewhat they have already told the committee in video testimony about what they saw during that time. >> we had all talked, at that point, about how it was bad and, you know, situation was getting out of hand. i think when kayleigh gave us the order of: don't say anything to the media, i told her that i thought the president needed to tweet something. >> one of my staff brought me a print out of a tweet by the president. >> we all got a notification. so, we knew it was a tweet from the president. we looked down and it was a tweet about mike pence. >> the tweet said something to the effect of, mike pence, the vice president, didn't have the
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courage to do what's should have been done. >> i remember us saying that that was the last thing that needed to be tweeted at that moment. the situation was already bad. so, it felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. >> i read that tweet. and made a decision at that moment to resign. that is where i knew i was leaving that day. >> again, tonight, it is a lot. joining us now -- house select committee member jamie raskin. congressman, what more should we suspect expect from these witnesses testifying tomorrow, pottinger or nephews? >> but, generally, we're going to see what donald trump was doing and what he was not doing during that 187 minutes, fateful period of american history. he continued his work and inflamed the to incite the crowd. continue to direct the
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extremely negative comments towards vice president pence, saying he didn't have the courage to do what's needed to be done. he obviously inflame the crowd in the morning saying, you have to fight like heck, if you don't fight like, hey you are not going to have a country anymore. he directed them to the capitol, so on. those two witnesses both have very individual, specific stories to tell. i think it'll keep everyone in suspense until tomorrow. >> the washington post is just up with reporting the past few minutes of the committee is planning to share outtakes from -- deliver general seventh. can you tell us anything more about that? >> well, the president displayed extreme difficulty in completing his remarks, of course, hours had passed when he could have simply taken a walk for ten or 15 seconds over to address the country and address his followers and tell them to go home.
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people were besieging him, begging him to do that. he refused to do that. he finally went over and made some comments at the end of the day, but it was clear that no thanks to the president our police forces had turned the tide and we're beginning to win back the capital. at that point, he got on and said, we love you, you're very special. time to go home. so what. it is extremely revealing how exactly he went about making those statements and we're going to let everyone see parts of. that >> so, this was the statement, just replied, this is the statement that he made on the day of the insurrection? or was at the day after? >> i guess you're referring to the day after when he made another speech. but also, you know, there was a statement made on the day of. at the end -- >> and you have outtakes on that one, as well?
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>> actually, i'm not sure that we have outtakes. i'm not sure we have outtakes and that. one is the other one takes a. we certainly have snippets this one. also, on the six. >> you have snippets of the one on the sex. obviously, your investigation is ongoing. what is the committee's timeline, and he may not, know what is the timeline looking like after tomorrow's hearing? i mean, what you do the next day? is there ballpark for when you plan to issue a final report? potential criminal referrals to the criminal justice department, if there will be any other hearings? >> well, this should be the end of this block of hearings. never in this process, because new material, new evidence is servicing all of the time. but i think that the committee it's continuing the investigation. there are new leads that have opened. up i would be surprised if there could be another hearing or two down the road. certainly, we need to do a hearing to discuss our conclusions and recommendations
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that we are making for fortification of american democracy against cousins directions and political violence and attempts to steal wave the will of the people to take over election, of which is what we saw with january six in which, at last, it continues to go on with the same forces that were guesses that day. >> the story that was not an assembly speaker saying that the former president called him last week as part of a fresh effort to decertify the 2020 election, what does that say to? you he's down to mar-a-lago playing golf, but even, now he's planning to overturn election results lawyer best occasion is ongoing. >> well, to me, what it says is although donald trump knows full well that he lost the election by more than 7 million votes, three unassisted to 32 in the electoral college, even though everyone around him knew that and knows that and tries
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to convince him of it, he still wants to propaganda as his followers in the big lie. for him, it has become a litmus test, also, for politicians like mastriano and pennsylvania where dan cox in maryland, these people were true believers who follow anything that the cult leader is saying. so, he uses it as a litmus test to see who is loyal to him and who is now. it is a very scary and degraded thing to see this take place in the world's first modern democracy. >> yeah, congressman raskin, thank you for your time. thank. you >> thank you for having. >> getting perspective from conservative -- george conway. also cnn special jamie -- >> jamie, given but -- but he's backed to hear the assessment more? >> anderson until that it is
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going to be very dramatic. these were two white house aides who were in the white house on january six. they are firsthand fact witnesses. until that sarah matthews will talk about how they try to get trump to say something, but could not. matt pottinger, we should note, he said the white house for four years in the national security staff. he knew trump was. i'm told that he did not see trump on the sixth. he did say, mark, see mark meadows. there will be key testimony about that. and also, as we reported, they both resigned that day. i think that that is key to this point of dereliction of duty. one source told me that they were both upset because trump wouldn't say to the rioters,
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stab, leave. and that these two aides are saying he did not say that because he didn't want them to stop and they. >> george, i want to play for you why attorney general garland said today. >> no person is above the law in this country. nothing that stops -- us know! no person is above the law this country. i can't said any more clearly than that. there is nothing in the principles of prosecution, and any other factors that prevent us from investigating anyone, anyone, who's criminally responsible for an attempt to undo a democratic election. >> do you think that changes if trump runs? i mean, it is one thing to say that. but at the president, the former president announces he is running, does that change the cow populations of the
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judges apartment? potentially? >> not at all. it shouldn't. in fact, it should and hands battalions from the department of justice. but we're gonna see tomorrow is something that we have never seen. in 233 years we've had presents the nets. his first, president george washington, is sworn and 233 years ago. this january six was the single worst day of the presidency. you had a president who and a wall, who basically -- he engaged in a supreme dereliction of his duty. the crowd was attempting to stop the peaceful transfer of power. was attempting to overthrow the constitution. where the president of the negatives who was sworn to preserve, protect and defend the constitution, who did nothing for 187 minutes. we are going to hear evidence of how he did nothing, which was to ignore people were telling him, please, do something mister president. to watch television. we haven't heard the testimony yet, but we know from published reports that he was just watching television, gleefully. this is something we have never seen before and it goes to his
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criminal intent. he did everything he could to overturn that election, for weeks and weeks and weeks. and that, between 1:10 pm and 4:17 pm on january six, 2021, he did nothing. and the reason he did nothing? you know, in contrast, energetic attempts to overthrow the election that preceded it was he be the attack on the capital as an effort, as when which overturned the election result. that is criminal. if attorney general garland means when he said, it's you should be prosecuted. >> jamie, i'm not even sure the phrasing that he did nothing is accurate because, in fact, by doing nothing, he was, in fact, doing all he could to encourage the attack, to continue the attack, to prolong the attack. clearly because he wanted to succeed. he wanted to see, with a reach mike pence? will they stop the? boat i mean, it wasn't that he didn't know what to do and he wasn't doing anything. he was watching the well laid plans that he no doubt discussed with steve bannon and his cronies, build marshall mike flynn, play out. >> no question about it. you may remember that we have had reporting that, in fact, not only was he washing it, he was reminding it to watch it
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again. he was enjoying this. i think we are going to hear a lot about that, also, from someone else who is at the white house. that is white house counsel pat cipollone, who my sources tell me that testimony will be on videotape. but i am told we will see in a lot of pat cipollone. he is the star witness tomorrow. there is a reason the >> no question about it. you may remember that we have had reporting that, in fact, not only was he washing it, he was reminding it to watch it again. he was enjoying this. i think we are going to hear a lot about that, also, from someone else who is at the white house. that is white house counsel pat
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cipollone, who my sources tell me that testimony will be on videotape. but i am told we will see in a lot of pat cipollone. he is the star witness tomorrow. there is a reason the committee push so hard to get pat cipollone to get this videotape testimony. i am told, we will see just what tomorrow when they show at. >> george, do you think any of the former presidents associates our allies? like former chief of staff mark meadows could face legal actions. in the wake of these hearings? >> absolutely. mark meadows was facilitating
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all of this. he was facilitating the rally. he facilitated team crazy coming in. he wasn't in the thick of it. he definitely, absolutely, had involvement in the situation in georgia, where they were trying to put the arm on raffensperger, to find those votes. meadows is very, very deeply involved here. he is very deeply explodes. >> thank you both. appreciated. [whistling] when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator.
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asking is house select committee stuffers, saying you have been in contact with him, are you still open to getting information? we are still open to getting information, but one prosecutors circled back with her on the redirect, they pointed out, hey, these recent letters, benny thompson clearly states that even if you don't give information now, this is not mean that you comply with a subpoena you still divide it. the contempt of congress those stance. they also narrowed it on the fact that bannon did not make the offer after he was charged. you cannot make the offer in the months to follow that. you look into the committee with the offer on july 10th, a week before he was set to go to trial. >> the defense also used a book club membership to try to show bias of the general six committee staffer who testified, what was that about? >> the defense does not have a lot that they can argue. one thing they can make a case
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in -- was biased. they pointed to the fact that asked the committee staffers used to be in a book club together, as a suggestion that perhaps this witness was biased. in reality, neither of the witnesses have been to the book club in the past year. we will see how that sets the jury, anderson. >> in terms of a timeline, and we know how soon the jury will begin deliberations? >> the caveat is always that you cannot predict what will happen in court, right? the defense gets the push for their case tomorrow. we don't know if the case will put a case on. we don't know if they will call an assist or steve bannon to take a stand on his own behalf. that is a big question. they don't put forward a case or this is, it is possible this could go to the jurors
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tomorrow. >> sarah murray, appreciate it, thanks. we are was glad in moments like these to be joined by business bloomberg writer joshua greene, author of -- also cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. jeff toobin on what went on today, what do you think? >> when you hear that a case is two witnesses and basically a day of testimony, you think, wait a second there has to be more to this? the answer is no, there is nothing more to this. >> not even a book club? >> that was the big gotcha in the cross examination there is nothing to the case he got a subpoena, he did not show up, he did not produce documents, he did not challenge it in court. he did not challenge the delay. he did not cooperate. that is the whole case. he's innocent until proven guilty, except he is guilty. there is nothing to the case. >> when you are not last book, you said one of his greatest motivations would be the great a big spectacle to undermine the general six committee. he tried to do that yesterday with a statement he made outside the courtroom to try to challenge benny thompson mano a mano arm wrestling tournament or something if you show up in court.
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it just looks kind of sad. what did bannon get out of this? >> i don't think he got anything out of it. if anything, it backfired on him. the judge in court today said that surely he was alluding this, he said, quote, i don't intend for this to become a political circus. at every stage, he shut down bannon and his defense efforts to turn it into one, by subpoena nancy pelosi and all sorts of things that he wants to do to seize control. it is interesting to see it the defense will allow to testify on its own behalf because it is hard to imagine him on his good behavior and not exploding in some way that undermines the whole case. >> jeff, do you think bennett will testify?
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do you think he will actually testify? >> i think this is classic behavior. when you're standing in a press conference, we will go medieval on their butts. he's a podcast, he's a tough guy. when it comes to testifying under oath, where you had to follow the rules of evidence and are subject to cross-examination, i don't think he will go anywhere near the witness stand because that is not the form he will excel in. >> josh, does steve bannon still matter at all? yes, he was on the cover of time. he was in the president campaign and then out of the orbit. i know he was building this network of people who are going to run for school boards and stuff and try to destroy institutions from inside is a real, is that something people should be worried about? or is he just this dude with a podcast, and there are a lot of them? >> i think what he is doing is real. i think he has a bigger role than that. he is as we can still see, on from what happened ungenerous excess, and the days and weeks leading up to it, you still the chief propagandist for donald trump. spinning this alternate narrative that is powerful enough that thousands of people
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showed up to the capital and rioted. and countless republicans still believe this misinformation about how joe biden is the rightful president. i think steve bannon has a big hand and spinning the narrative, but it is all based on fantasy and hyperbole and nonsense. it is hard to lean on that one you are under oath in court. >> if he is convicted, jeff, it's a misdemeanor? >> it's a very weird statue, where misdemeanors are usually no jail time required and a year maximum. the two counts each carry a 30 -day minimum. if he is convicted of both counts, he's looking at 60 days and a minimum in jail. he could get more but this is not a big -- >> can he podcast from jail? >> i doubt it.
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only jeffrey epstein gets to live his life that way. >> that is right. >> he did for a while. >> it did not end well. >> jeff toobin, josh green, push it, thank you. coming up, an election denier wins a republican emanation in maryland, at the democrats when -- trying to turnout support for that right-wing candidate. david axelrod discuss is this high risk strategy next. [ sfx: submarine rising out of water ] minions are bitin' today. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ minions: the rise of gru, only in theaters. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ (coughing) ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ copd may have gotten you here, but you decide what's next. start a new day with trelegy. ♪ ...feelin' good ♪ no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function.
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tonight over democratic strategy to help fund far-right candidates in republican primaries the plan is that these candidates, if nominated, will be so toxic for moderate voters that it will help democrats the fear is that they might actually win an election. the latest is dan cox, who cnn projects will win the republican nomination for governor in maryland cox's an election denier after the 2020 election, he said the former president should seize voting machines. he also charted three buses to the january 6th rally and tweeted during the attack on the capital, pence is a traitor. according to open secrets, and you cite the tracks politics, democrats spent more than 1 million dollars on tv ads highlighting the former presidents endorsement of cox, a tactic which was designed to boost his candidacy there in the primary with republicans but also harm him during the general. the democrats spent nearly $44 million on ad campaigns in at least five states. california, colorado,, pennsylvania, illinois as well
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as maryland. i'm joined by david axelrod, cnn commentator and former adviser to obama. this is a smart strategy? >> it certainly would be smart in the short room, if the goal is to nominate extreme candidates who you think will be easier to beat. the reason that they are going to these lengths is that this could be a tough year for democrats. there are gale force winds blowing against immigrants, so they want the most unbeatable candidates. those gale force winds could actually blow one of these candidates in. doug mastriano in pennsylvania, who is quite extreme on elections, on abortions, on many other issues, not unlike cox, his initial polls and the race after being nominated has him being four points behind the democratic candidate. it could be issued, or a could and disastrously. that is the danger. >> democrats have done this
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before, most notably, the 2012 senate race in missouri, where democratic senator helped todd aiken get on the ball against her. that was successful for her. has it ever been done on the scale with this much at stake? >> no, that akin mccaskill race, it took on mythic importance or significance, and people reached into that grab bag this year. what happened was it started in pennsylvania in the mastriano race. it proved successful. mastroianni my have won anyway. and then it transported to illinois, colorado, in a senate race, where it did not work, and these other states. yesterday was noteworthy because the candidate that won, cox only spent $21,000 from his own campaign. the democrat governor association spent over 1 million. remember, these ads are not
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distorted the records, they are amplifying them. most of these at the same. they say too conservative for maryland, too conservative for pennsylvania, but it says that they are anti-abortion, pro trump, and they go through all the credentials that will make them objectionable in theory to moderate voters but are music to the ears of core base trump oriented primary voters. it has obviously worked to great effect in several cases. >> it is a little weird to have democrats warning that some of these candidates are threats to democracy, and at the same time, making sure that they won their primaries and are on the ballot in november. listen -- >> anderson, i spent 30 years in campaigns or thereabouts. i am not an ingenue. i understand the idea is to win and the thinking behind these tactics, but as i said earlier, they come with great risk.
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you are handling plutonium here, as it relates to democracy. if something goes wrong, if those gale force winds are such that republicans are blown across the finish line, you will have people like in pennsylvania, the governor there appoint the secretary of state who administers the election. this has the potential to be a disaster if it goes wrong. as i said at the beginning, it may seem smart today, it may seem tragically wrong in november. >> i bet you are mistaken often for an ingenue, though? >> let people say that, you'd be surprised, i get that all the time. >> i had to go look up the exact definition of ingenue >> i should to note that i said it on national television >> excuse me, lastly, there has been a lot of reporting what president trump running for president again. it is not more when he will announce --
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or when, not will, when he will announce. do you think you will? >> i think you will. he is not very subtle. he generally signals what he would do. he has been signaling that he would do this. i think all these legal threats probably encourage him to do it. the extension of people like desantis encourage him to do it he needs need to be center of attention encouraged him to do it. i tell you what, there is a group of people who don't want to do it that is republican officeholders and there is a group of people that want him to do, democratic officeholders and strategies if you plunges himself into the middle of the midterm elections, he could change the equation in a traumatic way >> david axelrod, appreciate it. just ahead, extreme heat that is fueling fires in europe and forcing yellowstone national park to issue a new high level fire warning in china, complicated efforts to maintain their controversial covid policy, we have a stunning live
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wildfires, caused by the extreme global heat in many of us are living through right now. just outside of athens, greece firefighters spent the second day trying to control places that have been fueled partly by strong winds. firefighters from romania also assisted in battling deadly fires. at least 600 have been evacuated, including a children's hospital. and united states yellowstone national park now warns that the areas in high fire danger. no out affairs right now. they say that the danger level means wildfires are a likely and could be difficult to control under certain areas and conditions. cnn's selina wang reports from china, extreme heat is complicating a tough situation for that country's zero covid policy. >> scorching temperatures sweep over china, turning massive covid testing into a dangerous task. state media shows covid workers collapsing on the job due to
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the videos say are heat stroke. in eastern china, a covid worker is on the ground and they rushed to tariff there has massive, unable to stand, she is carried away. it is a scene playing out across china. fainting, falling, crumbling on the ground. lying motionless. struggling to breathe. the covid workers long hours in the suffocating heat made worse by their head to toe, full body protective gear. that is not water, according to state media. it is sweat. gushing out of this workers hazmat suit. the sweat pulls inside the protective gear, lining the inside of the river clubs. the surging temperatures coinciding with surging covid cases. >> cities across china, including here in beijing, require recent covid test it enter any public area. that means everyone, young, old, and sick, all have to wait in long lines like these in the brutal heat. >> it is really hot, especially
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when you feel -- a lot of times you feel anxious because you have things to do. >> to survive, covid workers are getting creative, hugging giant blocks of ice, placing them on their backs. laps and feet. colleagues rub eyes on each other and take ice cold out of themselves water bottles of themselves. authorities have said that workers can cover ppe that does not cover their entire bodies. dozens of cities have experienced record high temperatures. last week, more than 80 cities issued a red alert with some lagging temperatures of more than 110 degrees fahrenheit. it's central china, a museum close after the roof milled said.
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the city opened under ground air raid shelters to escape the heat. meanwhile, craps are withering and dying under the high temperatures. the soil, parched and cracked and damaged due to -- crop damage pushes up inflation, putting more pressure on an economy already devastated by the pandemic. but in zero covid china, even health care workers hospitalized from heat exhaustion get a positive spin from authorities. this propaganda video shows government officials visiting covid workers in the intensive care unit, while showing the motionless patients in bed, the video rallies people to work together for victory against covid. >> selina wang joins me now from beijing. the video your piece is stunning. have we already seen the worst of the heap from china? is it going to get better? >> anderson, we have seen temperatures start to come down. impressive the country. after, that things could still get worse with more extreme weather expected in the coming months. now, this heat wave actually
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follows the extreme flooding in china that has displaced millions of people. this, hitting the population that is still reeling from this harsh covid lockdown. that is making it more suffocating for people trapped at home and more dangerous, as you, softer those frontline health care workers. according to a government report, temperatures in china are actually rising faster than the global average, which can make this extreme weather events more frequent, more intense. china is now making climate change a top priority. but the question is all of this too late? >> i mean, it looks like these are propaganda videos of the -- covid workers collapsing. what is the message they are sending with these? >> yeah. some of the videos were very striking. the last one, i wouldn't necessarily say it is a celebration of the sacrifice, but they're showing an example that these health care workers collapsing over and over again, being in the icu for heatstroke, it shows the amount of sacrifice and dedication that these frontline workers are giving towards trying to fight covid. it fits into this more militant rhetoric in china towards trying to combat this virus, they're treating it like an all out war battle on the pandemic
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and that it is a reminder that music of the, and you saw, there was motivational. it is a reminder to people that this is a time when people need to play their part. anderson? >> so doing, appreciated. here in the u.s., was powerful now, disbarred attorney, charged with murdering his wife and younger son. well alex murdoch told the judge, next. every year we try to exercise more, to be more social, to just relax. and eating healthy every single meal? if only it was this easy for us. age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss. and if you're taking a multivitamin alone,
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so they get less. hidden agendas. fine print. loopholes. prop 27. they didn't write it for the tribes or the homeless. they wrote it for themselves. disgraced former south carolina tierney alex murdoch has pleaded not guilty to all charges in connection to the murders of his wife and son, were found shot to death last year. just after the killings, murdoch was that by many to be a grieving widower. then came more twists and turns and -- culminating in an indictment last week and two counts of murder and two counts of possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime and the two deaths. more what happened today, here's our randi kaye and a warning, some of the language
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is graphic. >> alex murdoch arriving in south carolina's collington county office to face murder charges. by the time he entered the courtroom, he change from his blue jail jumpsuit into street clothes and gucci shoes, all of which we've learned, belonged to one of his lawyers sons. >> what's say you, richard murdoch, are you guilty or not guilty of the felonies wherein you stand indicted? >> not guilty. >> murdoch pleaded not guilty to murdering his wife, maggie, and jan's son paul on june 7th last year. the two were found shot to death in the family's property in arlington, south carolina. >> [inaudible] my wife and child [inaudible] >> what is your name? >> my name is alex murdoch. >> alex murdoch called 9-1-1. he said he found them shot after returning from visiting his mother. just last week, he was charged with killing them. both were shot multiple times, according to the indictment. maggie with a rifle. paul, with a shotgun. a source of the investigation confirms to cnn, alex murdoch had blood spatter on his clothes, which could prove he
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was in close proximity to at least one of the victims when they were shot. no motive has been disclosed. in court today, attorneys on both sides requested a gag order and refused to speak with the media. >> this case is sensual, all sides for murder. >> murdoch's attorneys also requested a speedy trial, beginning this fall. >> we believe he's innocent. we believe that the killer or killers are still at large. [inaudible] >> alex murdoch said nothing beyond his not guilty plea. he said the defense table, not far from a portrait on the wall of his grandfather, who served as solicitor here until 1986. murdoch has been jailed charged with dozens of financial crimes, since september of last year. cnn has obtained over 13 hours of recordings of his jailhouse phone calls. he often talked with his only surviving son, buster, about football, gambling, jailhouse workouts and plans for when,
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perhaps if, he gets out. >> when i get out, i have a good deal with all my stuff in storage. >> at one point, they talked about guns. >> you don't have your 20 gauge? >> yeah. i have my 20 gauge, but i don't have -- they took all the 12 gauges in -- and they took all the assault rifles. >> it one phone call from jail, alex refer to a tv report he saw and mentioned the needs steven smith and gloria satterfield, two people in murdoch's orbit who mysteriously died. >> i mean, it's just that same old -- >> stephen smith and gloria, all of that stuff. the mystery surrounding gloria 's death, how she died. >> gloria satterfield dialed in 2018 after falling down the steps at murdoch's home. smith was found dead on a roll road in 2015. both of those deaths are now under investigation by the state. meanwhile, following court
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today, murdoch wants to get returned to jail, where he is being held on 7 million dollar bond on charges of financial crimes, including insurance fraud. >> randi now joins us from charleston, south carolina. did the prosecution give any hints about possible motive? >> anderson, no clear motive was spelled out in court today. the prosecutor certainly hinted at one may be to come. they noted 81 allegations that he is facing for fraud, for, drugs for financial crimes, all things at the grand jury had to consider when deciding to indict him in this double murder case. so, prosecutors said today court, quote, a lot of that provides the background and motive for what happened on june 7th, 2021. that was the day of the double murder when alex murdoch's wife and son were both killed. so, certainly, he's trying to connect some of this mystery to a possible motive it seems. we'll see what the defense as a about that. >> thank you so. much next, cost family members
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wonderful and beautiful life. whether trump was found unconscious and unresponsive this about a staircase in her town house last week. authorities say she died of blood impact on her torso. about a trump with 70. the news continues and headed over to lower codes of cnn tonight. laura? anderson, thank you so much. i am laura coats, and this is cnn tonight. it is the final countdown. less than 24 hours from now, the january six last public hearing, at least for now, and it is prime time to. there is a lot of anticipation -- building on what revelations could be coming. how does the panel plan to make its case tomorrow in this sort of serious finale. we are on number eight, and you committee member jamie raskin just confirmed to cnn that the committee plans to show and outtake of video that donald trump recorded the day after the riots on monday, january the 7th. the whole thing is about three minutes from what we saw, but it took an hour to shoot, according to the washington post. even then, it still needed to be edited.
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