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thanks for watching. i will see you tomorrow night as part of cnn's live coverage. the january 6th select committee's primetime hearing. that starts at 7 pm eastern. now, don lemon tonight starts right now, of course. don lemon, hey. a, a little preview, we have more details on what exactly we will see tomorrow. adam schiff is going to talk to us and give us more details of what is happening. we will get to the. laura, i will see you tomorrow, friday -- >> sunday, i will see you. i will watch your show right
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now. i will let other see you. >> it has been one of those days. this is don lemon tonight, by this time tomorrow, we expect to know a whole lot more about what happened behind closed doors at the white house on january six. we know that because we have a couple people speaking to us, but i digress. i will get into that. new tonight is the committees outtakes at then president's message to his supporters the day after the riot at the capitol, showing him having trouble getting to the message, refusing to say the election was settled and attempting to call the rioters patriots. tonight, my colleague anderson cooper got congressman jamie raskin to tell him more about well takes the committee has. in just moments, committee member adam schiff reveals that you will hear people urging the ex president to say things to try to get the attackers to get home, things that he cannot be
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prevailed upon to do or say. that as one day after the secret service turn by precisely one text exchange to a government watchdog, who had requested a month's worth of records from 24 secret service personnel. the january six committee expresses what they call concerns about how the secret service handled that cell phone data. benny thompson and liz cheney upping the ante saying, quote, the procedure for preserving context prior to the purge appears to have been contrary to federal records retention requirements and may represent a possible violation of the federal records act. going on to say that the committee is seeking additional secret service records as well stay tuned for that. the secret service responded to the committee saying that it will provide the highest level of cooperation and support. as the investigation continues, here is what may be the scariest part in all this.
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he is still doing it. donald trump is still trying to overturn the 2020 election. a year and a half after he left washington, he is still trying to do it. after supporters ran right at the capitol, trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power, still trying to do it. at the joe biden took the oath of office on the capitol steps that had been swarmed by rioters, still trying to do it, a year and a half after all of that, he's still trying to overturn the election. of course, a phone call, a phone call from a man with a history of very imperfect phone calls. from his call logs that we zelenskyy, the cold air got him impeached the first time to his call with georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, demanding that he find 11,780 votes, the effort that is under criminal investigation in georgia, by the way. rudy giuliani ordered to testify in the investigation next month now, there is donald trump's phone call to the top lawmaker in wisconsin assembly just last week, trying to get him to decertify the election
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results from 2020. our affiliate was all over. >> he makes his case, which i respect. he would like us to do something different in wisconsin. i explained that is not allowed under the constitution. >> not allowed under the constitution, which apparently did not mean a whole lot to the ex president, who attacked him on social media. . so, on the eve of tomorrow's primetime hearing, the question is, what will we do about all this? will we do about all this? it turned to our democracy is not over. it is very real. it is still happening today. what are we going to do about it? some reporting on it, my colleague on capitol hill, ryan nobles, good evening to you. let's talk about tomorrow's primetime hearing, zeroing in on trump's inaction.
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liz cheney describes it as trump's supreme dereliction of duty. what do you expect here? >> i think the biggest thing we will hear tomorrow night's firsthand witness testimony from people that we never heard from before. we know already that matthew unger and sarah matthews, to white house officials in and around the west wing on january six and also resigned their posts on the same day because they were so upset about the way the former president conducted himself, will testify live. i also told that we should expect to see witness has the money from some of these closed-door deposition that we have not seen yet, from individuals that we have not seen yet, that are going to provide a perspective that we have not seen it. what the committee is really going to do is zero in on the in action of donald trump during that 187 minutes from one he ended his speech at the ellipse at the capitol, when he encouraged supporters to go to the capitol and then, when he finally put out that video statement to finally tell them to go home.
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during that period of time, they are going to show that there are white house records, call logs, the diary that took place at the white house that that time, that he was not doing all that much, other than watching television and, in some cases, cheering on his supporters that were of the capitol that day. but the committee will also show is that there were opportunities for him to try to stand in the way and quell the violence. there was really only one person who could tell his supporters to go home on that day, and that was donald trump. he just refused to do it. you use the phrase the committee used over and over again, and you will see them highlight that in a big way, dereliction of duty. that is one of the reasons that the two people leaving the hearing, congresswoman elaine luria of virginia and adam kinzinger of illinois, they are both to military veterans on this panel. the sense of duty and honor, swearing an oath to defend our country that, that is something that they understand very specifically.
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that is why they are the two that will be the hearing tomorrow night. don? >> right nobles, capital, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> joining me now, committee member, democratic congressman, adam schiff. thank you for joining us, appreciate it. >> great to be with you. >> we know trump was not doing a whole lot to stop the attack during those 187 minutes. does your committee have evidence to present exactly what he did do and say in the white house? what can we expect to hear? >> you can expect to hear what we know about that likely period of time, which the capital was under attack. people were urging the president to speak out, do something and stop the violence. he would not. at the same time, the vice president was doing what he could. others are trying to intercede but not donald trump, who evidently believed that mike pence, who protesters and rioters were shouting should be hung, had a coming. we were presenting that in graphic detail. >> your colleague,
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congresswoman -- raskin told anderson cooper that your committee has to bits of the ex presidents videotape remarks from the six and a takes on the seventh and said that the president had a lot of difficulty completing these remarks. what more can you tell us about these, and will we see them tomorrow? >> you will certainly see footage that you have not seen before. without getting too much into the detail, it will be significant in terms of what the president was willing to say and what he was not willing to say. it is also very significant how long it took him to say anything, that is anything that was not adding fuel to the fire. yes, you will see footage that you have not seen before. they will hear from witnesses that you have not heard from before. most importantly, we were together to give a vivid picture of what was going on with the president while the attack was occurring. >> is he off script? is he scripted? other people coaching him or
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producing it? he refusing to say something's? can you tell us what we will see? >> there are people urging him to say things to try to get the riders and the attackers to go home. there are things that you cannot be prevailed upon to do or say, not for hours an hours. ultimately, when he does give a statement still, things he would not say. you will have to wait till tomorrow evening to see precisely what that is. but i think it will be very important evidentiary hearing with a lot of new information for the public that sheds additional light on this terrible dereliction of duty by the commander in chief. while his own government was being attacked. we want to hear and or see what you said, people are urging him, him refusing and having difficulty? >> you will see what we can
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tell you at this point about all of those that were urging him to say something, to do something, to stop the violence. you will hear the terrible lack of response from the president and you will hear more about how he was ultimately prevailed upon to something, to stop the violence. you will hear the terrible lack of response from the president and you will hear more about how he was ultimately prevailed upon to say something and what he was going to say and was not. >> let's talk about other people testifying. the former white house official matthew pottinger and sarah matthews from the press office, will appear at the hearing. what specifically can they speak to? what we hear from them congressman? >> we are not confirming it who
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the witnesses will before the hearings i will leave that to my colleagues that will be running to hearing, but you will hear live testimony from people who worked inside the trump administration about how they were viewing the events going on, but they were seeing and hearing? also again, it will add additional insights from the inside. i think what has made these hearing so powerful is that these were the presidents men and women. these are people that he chose to be appointed, and they will share with you their grim view of what he was doing and more importantly, when he was unwilling to do, while the violence was unfolding. >> let's talk about those missing secret service text messages. the committee says that it has concerns about why they were deleted when four white house committees had already asked dhs for data, before that late january 2021 migration are their concerns are something the fires happened? >> we are deeply concerned
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because we don't know exactly what happened. i was one of the chairs who wrote one of the letters on generous. that was ten days at the defensive general six. -- january 16th -- i asked for those records among a much larger category of records of that day and that attack. the idea that all these text messages save one text chain would be lost or destroyed or that the secret service could somehow maintain, as they have claimed publicly, that nothing relevant to our investigation was lost. how are they know if those records were destroyed? suffice to say, we don't have adequate answers yet from the agency, and we are determined to get them. we also want to find out if there is any way to recover was deleted from those devices, and we will ultimately tell the
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public what we've learned. >> mark robinson is no person is above the law. -- merrick garland said -- your committee found that trump broke the law, right? we'll ask the turn general to do something about it? >> we will have a discussion, and we have been having that already. we will reach a conclusion about whether to make a criminal or froze against for whom offenses will make that decision at an appropriate time. i think we are all the opinion that our investigation remains ongoing and we want to have the benefit and full of mission when we make those referrals, if we in fact go forward with that. and as new information comes in, we may supplement that. congressman shift, thank you for a time, appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >> of course, we have more to come on those attacks from --
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talking about shark sightings so, new tonight, the genesis committee has outtakes of presidents message to his supporters the day after the insurrection. we are expecting to see them during tomorrow night's hearing here to discuss from watergate, former watergate prosecutor, norm eisen who was house judiciary special counsel and former presidents first -- we're happy to have both of you. thanks much for joining. i'm gonna start with, you would do you think of this general six committee having this messages to supporters? expected to shuttle tomorrow. >> don, this committee has been so good. nick and i are both child lawyers. you have to constantly surprised the jury, give them fresh material, keep them on their toes. and then, persuade them. hit them with the substance. these outtakes are going to be the top of the country tomorrow. each of these eight hearings, they've had no surprises. it's sizzle, but it is also substance. i think it is going to be another blockbuster. >> do you think it's going to be the top of the country tomorrow? you think it is going to be that compelling?
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>> don! on the break, we were talking about what we like to watch on tv. you know at the end of movies they have the outtakes in comedy movies, people stick around and watch after the credits. or the east rake that comes at the. and this is going to be like. that people are going to be riveted by. it but this is the sizzle, there will be substance to. >> what were supposedly going to, scenic, is trump attempting to call the rioters patriots, right? people who are familiar with the plans of the committee, that he went to links to not accuse them of wrongdoing. this is a lot about his state of mind, doesn't it? >> it says a lot about what he was trying to do. he viewed those people as patriots that were helping him to stay in office. this was a preconceived plan to get those people to washington, to get the oath keepers, the proud boys to go in and do the dirty work, the hard work. it is others appears to be the backup and to make it so that
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that count of the electoral college came to a halt. that is what it is all about. his view, they were the patriots. they view themselves as patriots. it just shows that he is part of that conspiracy. >> so, i said to him, to adam schiff who was alone, when he said that you would see footage that i hadn't been on -- with what the president was willing to say when he was willing, not willing to say. it's also, of, course a very significant how long it took him to say anything that has anything to do with how he feels above the fire. i, said which i thought was important as response, i said is he off-script? is he scripted? are people coaching? refusing to say something? can you tell us? he said, you, know there are people urging him to say things to get the rioters -- but they can prevail upon him to do that. i would imagine that it may be something like, you, know mister president, you need to say something to such and such. he'll say, can i say
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differently? i don't say that, what have you. will that make a difference? is that a big deal? >> definitely. >> you legal minds? why so? >> because it is not just the words that he speaks, the words that he doesn't speak here. you are getting you into his mind, through his reactions. they're his special about -- his gestures. the toughest thing to prove, both of these faced this impeachment, his corrupt intent. here, these outtakes and the rest of the, evidence really for the past three hearings, have focused on trump's state of mind. they built up all of the actions they need for federal state crimes. now, they are going to the tough question. the states will help. >> it is like being cross-examined and defended. you are going to see him take now, they are going to the tough question. the states will help. >> it is like being cross-examined and defended. you are going to see him take different stance. he's gonna be squirming. he's going to be insisting on sayings and things like, they
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are patriots. he's going to have people telling him he can't say that. and then, he's going to say other things in between. i mean, we can conjecture all we want about, it but i think at the end of the day, it is going to be his demeanor, the way he says, it when he moves from one to the other one people are asking him to do something different. i mean, that is going to be extremely telling. it is going to be putting a major criminal on the witness stand and cross examining him with his statement. >> this is a star witness? >> the star witness was casualty hutchinson. she was the new john dean. >> let me ask, you norm. you are working regularly with the secret service when you are white house special counsel on records handling issues. we suspicious about these text messages that had gone missing? and then they only turned over one. that is just one. >> suspicious would understate the case. if it was only an isolated incident of the secret service not preserving documents, that would be one thing.
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but there have been very serious allegations of a witness intimidation scheme as part of these proceedings. the good cutback cup that we saw trump do with michael cohen, the example, right? the committee played these grooming messages before the good cop, before cassidy hutchinson's testimony. and then, afterwards, trump comes down on her like a ton of bricks. who helped him? a whisper campaign involving former secret service agents who were supposed to be disagreeing with her and were close to him. and then we find the same secret service agents were supposed to preserve these tax and may not have done. so apparently, didn't you. so i think it stinks. >> here's what you pointed out. the model of the secret service at basset or, i'm, sorry, ambassador eisen, use it worthy of trust and confidence, you said that that is no big question mark.
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>> i think they are going to have to put a question mark on their model, don't. >> all of the shifting explanations about all of this, what happened, the committee, they need to talk to all of these agents, david? >> yeah. the big issue is, where they tried to get vice president pence out of the congress? we are trying to whisk him away so that he can go back and complete the vote? i mean, that is the big issue here in terms of the january 6th committee. if they can show that, in fact, trump had gotten secret service in their, to try and get pence out so that they could stop that vote, which was the whole point of the violence in the first instance, that would be huge. so, that is what i think is the major motive behind destroying these text messages. >> maybe he just said. but i want to ask you, what is the worst thing that they could find if they find these text messages? what would be the worst thing to find? who would be -- who are they communicating with, is there certain person?
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>> more proof of trump's intent of what he said, what he did. because what this is all about -- >> what i'm asking, is it conversations between agents or would be conversations about someone at the white house? >> potus just try to grab the wheel. he smirked me. it is just that kind of thing. when those same agents who are in the middle of this controversy may have failed to preserve their records, as is being alleged now, that is a very big deal. >> the worst thing is if there was a text say, get that guy out of here as quickly as possible and sent him up to alaska! that is the kind of dynamite evidence that would be in those text that would absolutely nail -- >> we don't know. that we don't know. that lesson, is there, i mean, -- i don't know. in 1 million years at the secret service, that they would do something --
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>> well, you do have an individual in there that was brought into the white house, into a political position, tony o'donnell, who was very close to donald trump. >> that is my point. if tony was texting -- >> again, we don't know. what is the worst thing, you know? >> two of us have made a very good living for decades out of the stupid texts, emails, dms and other things, notes, that people write down. it is incredible what people write down in the moment, don. >> yeah. we may never know because we can't get the tax. we may never get the tax. >> i'm not shows sure. >> why? not >> a lot of these things wound up going to different parts of the computer. there are ways, forensically, that you can pull the stuff off. i don't think that they certainly had time to do that in the last couple of days. this would cause mean taking hard drives, trying to see if
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these phones are still in existence, whether or not they can get anything off of it. if they can get it off the server. i, mean you have to understand it's an apology but, entire compares isn't there. >> i've a question for you before you go. garland has said no one is above the law. that has set a lot. does that appear -- isn't really that way for the former president is not above the law? >> i think that is true. if you are going to prosecute the former president, you have to make sure that you convict him. >> if -- no one is above the law, -- >> you don't know that at this. point luck, merrick garland is in the top spot in the sense that he has a conflict here. he is being asked, maybe acid some point, to judge whether or not to indict donald trump, when in fact, he is beholden to biden, who is going to be the chief rival. so, there is a direct conflict here. so, he's either going to get a real special prosecutor to make that decision, someone who is totally independent. where he is going to decline for georgia, which may turn out to be the stronger case. >> da willis in atlanta is not just saying no one is above the law, and she is proving, at
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dawn, with target letters that seem to be pointing to the former president. so, we're looking to georgia. we're looking south of a follow-up after, what i think, is going to be a blockbuster hearing tomorrow night. >> all right. thank, you gentlemen. appreciated. we'll see. we'll be here covering in. so, bush fires, power outages, the number one cause of weather deaths. if the minister is here to talk about the heat intensity of heat wave. that's next. hole, in a mine. but then something amazing happened. hello? carvana worked with my shift manager and got everything sorted out so i didn't miss out on the car. super helpful. i was over the moon, even though i was underground. we'll drive you happy at carvana.
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to coast are under heat alerts, and it is not just here in the u.s.. cities around the world sweltering in record high temperatures, leading to fires and life-threatening conditions. there is so much to discuss tonight with epa minister there michael regan. appreciate it, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me don. >> americans across the country are dealing with dangerous heat. this is not a red or blue state issue, this is a crisis hitting everyone. if you look at the temperatures on the screen, how massive is this problem, sir?
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>> it is a big problem, don. i did the president was firm today when he said that heat and climate change is an emergency. we are seeing record temperature heat, drought, we are seeing a lot of impact on life. this is an emergency, as the president stated. this is why he is taking action. he said from day one that if congress does not move, he would. don, he is not taking no for an answer. today's actions are an example of that. >> today, he announced steps to produce alternative energy production, funding for communities facing extreme heat, but he did not declare a national climate emergency, why is that? >> i think he has a number of tools and his toe box. he did not take that off the table. but the president is demonstrating leadership. today, another series of actions he has taken. today, from day one, he has instructed every cabinet to focus on climate change and mitigation. the epa is at the tip of the spear. the president did not take it off the table. as he said, he will continue to think in the days and weeks ahead on how and one to deploy today, another series of actions he has taken. today, from day one, he has instructed every cabinet to focus on climate change and mitigation. the epa is at the tip of the spear. the president did not take it off the table. as he said, he will continue to think in the days and weeks ahead on how and one to deploy those twos. >> listen, we are in july. we are not in the dog days of august yet. august is brutal. the extreme heat focused -- forcing many cattle ranches the
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southern cows, because it's too difficult to care for them. there is also issue for crops. there is will impact food security. >> it does. it impacts our food security, our national security. i've been on the ground in california with the governor after one of the wildfires. i spent time with communities in arizona dealing with the job. i have been in the basements in michigan after one of the so-called 500 year floods that happen every so often. climate change is real. again, the president was from today. climate change is an emergency. listen, that is why i have been asking the epa since day one. we have proposed the most stringent regulation on the transportation sector, because it is a major contributor to climate change. we have proposed a rule to regulate methane, a push on greenhouse gas coming from our oil and gas sector. despite my disappointment with
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the supreme court ruling, you will continue to move forward and develop regulations for a power sector it is imperative that we continue to move forward. that is the leadership that president biden is showing. >> my colleague has been reporting from greenland. it is getting so warm there, that the ice melted last week, and alone, it was about six billion tons. that could cover west virginia in a foot of water. even if the u.s. was doing everything right, don't you need global cooperation to deal with this? >> we do need global cooperation, don. as i have traveled internationally and met with my counterparts all across the world, i think we are all committed to looking at the levels of reduction we need to save the planet. listen, we know that much of what we are seeing, for some of what we will see, we will be dealing with for the foreseeable future. while we deal with the emissions and mitigate climate change, we also have to invest tons of resources into adapting where we are, especially those communities that have been disproportionately impact and played by pollution and climate impacts for a long period of time.
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the gop is nominating more extremist candidates, and they are getting a huge boost. just not from who you think. democrats are helping fun far-right candidates, hoping that those candidates will win the primaries the thinking here is that moderate voters will be turned off, right? that would give democrats a better opportunity to win general elections. take a look at this. i reported this last night, dan cox, an outright election denier, who won his primary in maryland for republican governor last night, also trump endorsed there's also darren
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bailey, another gop election denier, and doug mastriano, running for pennsylvania governor let's discuss now ron brownstein and doug high, both here i am so happy that you are both here let's see what this june team is like doug, let's start with you, i found it interesting that you said democrats were playing with matches how big a risk is this, if it indeed backfires? >> it's a very big risk. let me say, full disclosure, carrie schultz, the candidate that lost a maryland, he is a friend. the nominee in pennsylvania was also a friend, full disclosure there. let's go to 2002. in 2010, when i was at the republican committee, i magic them before obama was 46. we felt that if he was at or below that in the run up to election day, we take back the house. ultimately, use a 44 or 45 and every tracking poll that we had
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internally or externally. right now, in 2022, we are dealing with a different political situation. joe biden is at 30% in the latest polling. 80% of the country think we are in the wrong direction. democrats to have candidates that they are saying anti-woman, anti-gay, pro insurrection, these are the matches that there are playing with, the tender that is here with biden's low approval ratings if one of these republicans gets through in maryland, arizona or pennsylvania, and one of them can, it is not just playing with matches, it is political arson >> it is a very big and dangerous risk, i do agree with you on that, doug. i want you to respond, ron, but let's talk about this. get ready, because people get ready -- to get really mad. according to the poll, it puts president biden's approval rating at just 31%. does it make sense for
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democrats to go with the strategy when so many americans disapprove of his performance. >> right, doug's right. there is risk in this environment that when the president's approval as the slow and wrong track sentiment is this high, some candidates might get two and a win on bounce, this is not a crazy strategy for the democrats. we saw that in the 2010 election that manchin, democrats won senate races in nevada and other, as i recall. then in 2012, missouri, they won races in missouri and indiana, in each case, largely because they had candidates who were out of the mainstream. he noted the kind of number of obama approval of 46% in 2010 being the waterline for whether democrats could survive in the area. the differences, don, and we talked about it before. we have seen it in the cnn poll this week another surveys, a
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higher percentage of people who disapprove of biden, there are going to go democratic for congress and some of the senate races, then we have seen over the last 20 years, including in 2010. in 2010, about 80% of people that disapprove of obama voted republican. right now, republicans are only voting 70 to 72%. >> what are you saying, your audio cut out a little. what are you saying here? >> i've seen that democrats are winning a higher percentage of people who disapprove of biden then has typically been the case over the last 20 years. that is largely because of a perception that the republican party is too extreme, so, in that sense, nominating candidates will reinforce that perception to the extent that democrats can make that happen, make sense for them, even understanding the risk that some of the might one. >> you are talking about 2010 and 2012, guys as we look back, we thought that those were the good old days. you did not have people who were trying to steal an election.
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he did not have election deniers running. he did not have people around the country trying to put people in place, who would be election deniers, who will put their thumbs on the scale. is it fair to compare what happened in 2010 and 12 to what is happening now in 2022, considering what happened on january six? either of you, i just don't know. >> i think ron and i are both making political points, but you're talking about a real substance on where the candidates are. i think that is valid. so much of the conversation that we have had over the past year and a half and, frankly, the past five or six years is that the stakes are different now. things are more serious now. i do with what democrats said. i was horrified on january six. i did not say we committed that we can pass this.
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there are very real questions about what would happen to our very democracy, to the thirds of those things that hold our nation together. that is why i say democrats a plan with matches like this. it is not just mirror political jiu-jitsu and the chair of the best person we can, there are very real consequences if one of these or more than one of these candidates win. that is also eric grain in missouri, as well. >> go ahead. >> look, there's a trifecta in arizona coming up in the primary there for governor, secretary of state and senate, all election deniers, all extreme candidates. look, democrats are not the tipping point in these nominations. these candidates could not win if there is not a substantial portion of the republican base that was okay with these ideas. it is a risky strategy for democrats to get involved. again, in an environment where the best asset that democrats have with at the moment of biden's low approval, the perception that republicans are too extreme, especially post
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uvalde massacre, post the january six hearings. candidates who embodied that may turbo charged -- >> ron, ron, that is true, but there is no warning. there is no! warning there is no within the margin of error. look at what happened with herschel walker in georgia. look at pennsylvania. they are still within the manager of our, even though you say -- >> don, if there was a generic, nondescript republican in georgia, they almost certainly would be a head at this point. pennsylvania, point in case. again, i agree with doug and you, and there is risk initiated you, and i think you can overstate the impact that democrats of who wins and who does not, but it will probably be the best chance of democrats have to avoid a bad outcome in november. >> plays out, dog. >> i will say quickly, that the last campaign i was involved in was 2014, where we had a big
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upset against my candidate because a candidate that was cashed out and i had no means to get his message out got outside help. that is what happened in maryland last night. >> some of that looked like him, it was very odd. i remember that campaign. gus, you guys brought me back. you're talking about 2010 and 2012. >> the glory days. >> oh my gosh, i forgot about that. we have what john mccain, listen, it was mitt romney. there are sanity, at least, in part, back then. >> in a galaxy far, far away, don. >> thank you guys, see you soon. up next, i bet you never seen an asked apostasy say this. . >> hasta la vista, baby. thank you. [applause] [applause]
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rishi sunak on the left is the former finance minister considered the front runner but has close ties to johnson, which could hurt him. liz truss, the foreign secretary, also wamts the top job. she's also compared to the former prime minister margaret thatcher, known as the iron lady. the new prime minister will be announced in september. up next, trump staffers testifying to the january six committee on prime time tv tomorrow night. we will tell you what we know about them after this.
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we are less than 24 hours away from the january six committees eagerly anticipated primetime hearing, focusing squarely on 187 minutes when the then president did nothing as the capitol riot raged. with testimony from two witnesses we haven't heard live before. cnn's kristen holmes has the details on who they are and, crucially, what they could reveal.
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>> matthew pottinger and sarah matthews, two former white house officials that resigned after the deadly capitol attack on january six. tomorrow? testifying publicly. >> the president started talking about the rally. >> after talking to the committee behind closed doors. >> one of my staff brought me a print out of a tweet by the president. and the tweet said something to the effect that mike pence, the vice president, didn't have the courage to do what should have been done. i -- i read that tweet and made a decision at that moment to resign. that's where i knew that i was leaving that day once are i read that tweet. >> reporter:
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