hello everyone, welcome, this is don lemon tonight. so, it was unhinged. relentless, remorseless a campaign to overturn the election. and defy the will of the american people by using enraged mob to try and delay or deny the certification of the electoral votes. the january 6th committee promised us new revelations in tonight's primetime hearing. what do you think? i think they delivered. showing us exactly what happened, minute by minute, from the time donald trump told his supporters to go to the capitol, to the time he finally, and i mean finally, told them to go home. telling them that he loved them. after they trashed the seat of our democracy. after they beat police within an inch of their lives, and they threatened to hang his vice president.

and let's not forget what they were doing their, right? we're talking about hanging the vice president, trashing the capitol, and what they did to police officers. remember, these are people who were breaking windows, stealing things from offices, leaving feces behind, urinating in the capital. how soon we forget, right? and well all of this was going on, while they were peeing in the capital, leaving feces, taking things from people's offices. threatening to kill lawmakers. 187 minutes was when the president, when all this was going on, refusing over and over again to stop them. because he wanted to hold on to power. we are going to do a deep dive for you tonight, into what we heard and what we saw tonight. witnesses who have never spoken publicly before, never before seen video. but even after everything the committee has revealed,

everything that they have shown us, this is stunning. outtakes from the speech of then president reported just one day after his own supporters rioted at the united states capitol. watch. >> whenever you're ready, sir. >> i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday. and to those who broke the law, you will pay. you do not represent our movement, you do not represent our country, and if you broke the law, i can't say that. i already said you will pay, the demonstrators who infiltrated the capitol, have defied the sea. defiled, right? i can't see it very well. i'll do this, i'm gonna do this. let's go. but this election is now over. congress has certified the

results. i don't want to say the elections over, i just want to say -- congress has certify the results, without saying the election is over, okay? >> now congress has certified. >> i didn't say over, let me restart. go to the paragraph before. okay? i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday, yesterday is a hard word for me. >> just take a from heinous attack. >> take the word yesterday out because it doesn't work. heinous attack. on our country. say on our country. can i say that? my only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote. my only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote. [noise] >> okay, let me just

say this. i read the teleprompter every day. it's not easy, right? it's something if you get used to. i'm not always perfect. but i mean. i don't want to hear any more criticism about how president biden delivers a speech after watching that. no criticism. yesterday? [laughs] anyways. last night, committee member adam schiff told me it would be significant what the president was willing to say and what he was unwilling to say. and now we know. he wasn't willing to say the election is over, committee also playing for the first time, secret service radio traffic as agents desperately try to get vice president mike pence out. >> we need to move now. if we lose any more time, we

may lose the ability to to leave. so we're gonna leave, we need to do it now. >> gained access to the second floor and i've got public around five feet for me below. >> they are on the second floor moving in now. they want to consider getting out and leaving now, copy? >> we will ensure the people once we make our way. >> repeat, if we made our way to the second floor. >> there's six officers between us and the people that are ten feet away from us. >> i'm going down to evaluate. we have a clear shot if we move quickly. we've got smoke downstairs, unknown smoke downstairs. by the protesters. >> are we compromised? >> there are people who testified that are concerned for their lives, because they're getting threats, national security professional whose identity was hidden for fear of retribution, telling

the community that the situation was so dangerous it recalls to the committee members to the vice -- committee members to say goodbye. >> we're starting to fear for their own lives. there were a lot of yelling a lot of him, a lot of very personal calls over the radio. -- there were calls to say goodbye to family members, for whatever the reason was on the ground, the vp detail thought that this was a bit ago to get very ugly. >> did you hear that over the radio? what was the response by the agents baited where there? >> they kept saying, you know, at that point, just reassurances. i think there were discussions

of reinforcements coming, but again, it was chaos. just yelling. >> obviously was disturbing, but what prompted you to permit entry? >> we were running out of options. we were getting nervous. it sounded like we were came very close to either -- or or worse. >> and there were witnesses we have never heard from before, like deputy white house press secretary sarah matthews. who testified under oath about what she saw, and heard in the trump white house. and was slammed by the house gop twitter account even before she testified. that tweet was later deleted. >> it was essentially him giving the greenlight to these people. telling them that what they were doing at the steps of the capital and entering the capitol was okay, that they were justified in their anger, and he shouldn't have been doing that, he should've been

telling these people to go home until event to condemn the violence that we were seeing. it was him pouring gasoline on the fire and making it much worse. >> so, we have got a whole lot to talk about, david axelrod is here, alice stewart, elie honig, we are kicking it off for us. i appreciate all of you joining us, thank you so much. i'm gonna a little tongue-in-cheek about that, but it's true. if you look at what was tough for him to get through that speech, and i think that alice, you bring us something that's very important. you said to me, he also had trouble saying i lost. >> i concede, joe biden won. those are pretty easy words to say, but evidently not for him. >> he still stumbling over them. >> yeah. >> i think one of the takeaways we got from tonight was really the closing statement we heard from liz cheney, saying that this wasn't just a bunch of democrats over a series of these hearings, dog piling on a former president. these were members of trump's inner circle and his family,

outlining a series of confessions that were damaging to him. and i broke it up into three buckets this evening. we had one starting off right out the gate, when we're talking about trump bearing responsibility for this. and his top people, mcconnell, mccarthy as well as milley, all saying that he did bear responsibility. the next during the 2:24 tweet, that basically didn't do enough to call people in. calms people saying that there was unhelpful, it was unpatriotic, and an american. and then even further, as the hearing went on this evening, we heard his top ppe, cipollone kellogg as well as jared kushner, who acknowledged, yes, he did have the duty to engage and oversee the peaceful transfer of power. he did not do that. so the question is, was this a dereliction of duty? if it wasn't, it certainly was a disregard for duty. >> that's a good question. i'll ask you david, because the testimony was filled with all this alarming evidence of what happened on january 6th.

yet, the secret service a radio traffic we're terrified that the vice president and for their own lives. on top of that, we've been talking about this for a while, police officers being beaten with trump flags and american flagpoles. you had people, as i said, urinating and efficacious in the capital, leaving the capitol staff to clean up their mess. and then you had a president in those 187 minutes, sitting in the dining room in the west wing doing nothing, watching it on television. >> yeah. it was worse than that. as was pointed out during this testimony, he didn't call his defense department, he didn't call is attorney general, he didn't call us homeland security director. who would be spooked to? rudy giuliani. he was a commander-in-chief, but he was a commander chief of the insurrectionists, not the united states military, not the he wasn't acting as president the united states. and that's very, very clear.

it was stunning to me as someone who worked in that building, because i know what a normal president would have been doing under those circumstances. they would've been down in the situation room, they would've been in touch with all the responsible parties, and they would've moved rapidly. but they wouldn't have launched the mob down there. you know, he didn't act because he didn't want to act, that was pointed out all night. he didn't act because they were doing when he wanted them to do. >> but you know it set out to me, you know david, is that it was on tape. it was on tape. take after take, i said i'm gonna say this, i meant talk about the day of, i'm talking about january 6th. and you said you've been there, and you know wouldn't normal president would've been doing. wouldn't a normal president be saying, get me into the briefing room right now, or is focusing, giving into the briefing room on live television saying, listen, this is not what america is about. i know it's tough for you, -- >> but don, a normal president would not have denied the results of a free and fair election. a normal president would not

have summoned a mob to washington and held a rally and launch them down to the capitol, knowing that many of them were armed. normal president wouldn't have done that. so we should dispense with what a normal president can do, i guess, what was clear here is that he had a plan, and they were part of the plan, and he was not going to act, despite everything that he was being told by all the people around him. >> let me just ask this because alice brings up a very good point, she talked about dereliction of duty, you talk about all those things they own president should be doing, what he did and did not do. okay? he chose not to act. to stop this insurrection. well the capital was being sacked. do you see anything that is, i don't know, criminal? any criminal intent? >> let me say this, i think the tagline that we've heard leading into this hearing was dereliction of duty. i think that and are being an undersell for what donald trump did. because dereliction of duty suggests someone who maybe froze under pressure, didn't know what to do, panicked under the tension of it all.

>> did you live up to their? oh >> right, exactly, we saw compelling evidence tonight that donald trump knew darn well he was doing, and in fact, at some points, took affirmative steps that appear designed to spur on the mob. the infamous 2:24 tweet, where donald trump tweets out negatively about mike pence. we got testimony tonight that at that point, donald trump knew that the capital is under siege, knew there was violence in the capitol, and had received exactly the opposite advice, sarah matthews and others testified, we were all telling him, you have to tamp down, and he does the exact opposite. he inflamed things. if anything, i think dereliction of duty doesn't even quite do the trick. >> let's talk more about this, i want to play the soundbite, because this may help you talk about the legal angle and i know you want to respond to this as well, alice, he didn't call any military or law enforcement, this is what we heard from tape testimony, watch this. >> so, are you aware of any phone call by the president of the united states to the secretary of defense that? >> now that i'm aware of, no. >> are you aware of any phone

call by the president of the united states the attorney general of the united states that day? >> no. >> are you aware of any phone call by the president of the united states to the secretary of homeland security that day? >> i'm not aware of that, no. >> did you hear the vice president, excuse me the president, ask for the order? >> no. did you hear the >> president ask for -- ? >> no. >> as somebody who works a national security space and with the national security council, with their we're going to be -- troops for the present to be called up for a rally in washington d.c., for example, is that something that you would have been aware of? >> yes, i would. if >> it's clear that he wanted the insurrection to succeed. could anybody else have stepped in? david, you've been there, hey listen, we've got to do this. if you don't call, i'm gonna call. what's the protocol? >> i mean, you can't call in defiance of the president but the chief of staff could've

called representing the president, if the president wanted him to do it. and i think one of the big gaps here, don, we don't know when he was telling mark meadows because mark meadows ultimately refused to testify. he was very useful in terms of turning over his emails that have become quite incriminating, but, you know, all we have here is hearsay about what was headed said during by the president during -- . cipollone can't say what his conversation was with the president because he has a privilege issue. so, he talked around it. it would really be useful to know what people said to him precisely about what was going on and what he told them and that's a little hazy here, i don't know, i'm not a lawyer, i say with some pride. [laughs] but i would say that's a necessary ingredient here. >> mark meadows is really the

missing man, here as david, said he did momentarily cooperate in turn over those thousands of tax some of them very damning. the text of republican luminaries across the spectrum begging, him you have to get in, there you have to condemn this. >> there is no official record of what the president was doing. >> exactly, and the guy who could fill that record the best as mark meadows, and he went away, he defied the committee, the committee held him in contempt, sent it over to doj, and doj said we are not prosecuting. so as of this moment, there are no consequences for mark meadows refusing to testify in congress. i do want to, say there is a way to address that because the department of justice as grand jury subpoenas, those are much stronger than congressional subpoenas, the courts are much more likely to enforce those. so if doj were to spring into action, here mark meadows may not be able to slip away forever. >> it is there conspiracy theory out there wanted you, bud because i know the truth about it. it is that nancy pelosi did not call the national guard in on that day, is it nancy pelosi, was it her responsibility to call in the national guard? >> no. no. .

now she does have the authority to do, that she can urge the president to, do it you can urge others to, do it but the president has to do it. >> well, all of this that we are hearing, we are hearing from so many people but not hearing directly from people who spoke to the president and to your point, mark meadows as the keeper of a lot of that information. we just do not know what he was saying. we did hear some this evening that when people were trying to or trump to tweet a specific message to his supporters to leave, -- he does not want to do, that he says that is not what he wants to do. but here's what i think is even more, disturbing you mentioned were a normal president would do, why a normal person would do under the circumstances, i think one of the most frustrating testimonies we heard and audio we heard was from vice president pence's security detail, saying they were calling their family members, think goodbyes, thinking this would be their last day on earth. that they were going to die, and we heard testimony that

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encouragement and advice from rational people around him was frustrating and the fact that he sat back while these people were doing something, storming the capitol and potentially harming members of congress, but knowing that his vice president who had been a very loyal soldier, was under attack and in danger. knowing that secret service members were calling their families, saying that, you know, basically giving their last words. and knowing that the riots were continuing and people were getting more inflamed as the minutes go by, and he did nothing. it's very disappointing. >> hold on, do you still support? >> i don't. simply because, look, we have plenty of other people that will do the policies that he's provided for us that would never do this. that would never questioned the outcome of the election in would never go to this length to try and stop the certification of the election. i think, we talk about how this

is republican and democrats on the domestic level think pottinger raised a very important point tonight, talking about the national security implications of this. what this did to us on the international stage, to our enemies abroad, saying, america's form of government is not good. >> americas indicate, i think that's what it said. one more question david, and i promise all. it is an off ramp for the support in the party for maybe even some of the die hards, maybe some of the people who make excuses for? >> you know there's a lot of people who say one thing behind closed doors and one thing out in public, because they don't want to face the wrath and retribution of the former president. people have -- >> does this change that calculus you think? >> there's still a lot of people that are going to publicly support donald trump, we see it everywhere we go, we see a lot of people that are going to continue to vocally support this president in public, i think yesterday, which is not a very hard to say, yesterday, when vice president

-- speaking at the capitol -- republicans were vocally disrespectful to him, gave him a standing ovation for this job. for his work to certify the election and do his duty to certify the election. they would not do that if donald trump were in the room, but they did so privately. >> i had members of my family down south you said yesterday, i'm sorry david, you would ask a question. >> i just wanted to say relative to what alice was saying, we can be appalled and should be appalled by what we heard tonight, what we've heard these nine hearings. but we shouldn't be surprised. we shouldn't be surprised because, donald trump has made his model in business and in politics and in government, breaking rules, breaking laws, breaking norms. disregarding institutions. we had an impeachment before, the second impeachment had to do this, you know, where he was shaking down zelenskyy for help

in 2020 election. there is a pattern of behavior here that was all leading up to this. and so, to answer your question, don, i think that republicans, the thing that they're going to have to consider, he is dominant still in the republican party. we can see it in some of these primaries. the question is, will he be a burden going forward into the general election. i think they're going to become increasingly nervous about whether that's a low they want to carry into into 2024. but i don't know that his base is going to move away from it, in a weird way, we're talking to david chalian about this on my podcast. looking vulnerable may help him, because more people may get into the republican primary, and they have a winner take all system over there. so his 33% of solid supporters could be enough to win a bunch of >> primary.

just quickly, his base is not going anywhere, they will stay there that -- >> they are not watching. >> they are watching another network that -- is >> and it is partisan, which is what he is saying. >> and they think there should have been more trump allies on the committee, and they are looking at this as a partisan. >> exactly. exactly. they look at this is a partisan witch hunt, they are not watching tiktok and the minute by minute of what is happening in these hearings, they are getting their news elsewhere and are still looking at donald trump as the head of their party. we do have other options, which is a good thing. >> something that happened in the white house that sent shockwaves through the white house when it happened, the former president did on that day, that question for -- we will talk about that next.

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hearing detailing how than president donald trump did nothing for more than three hours to stop rioters from attacking the capitol. let's bring in cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director mr. andrew mccabe, is also the author of the threat, how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump. i appreciate you joining us mr. mccabe, so listen, president trump made no attempt to call any law enforcement or military leaders during the riot, not a single one. how effective was the committee and showing trump's total their election of duty? do you think there were strong enough? >> i think they were incredibly strong, don, i think the case that they made for their election of duty is complete, it is multi faceted, they have numerous witnesses, they have all sorts of evidence to point at. the one thing they don't have, is a crime. dereliction of duty is not a crime for a civilian in the

leadership position, it is in the military code, but it is not in the federal criminal code. so i think what they are doing here is not making a case for a criminal trial, or even coating the attorney general in charge trump with something based on that activity, rather, making the case to the american people that this is someone who should not occupy in position of public trust in any time in the future. i think that cases pretty well made. >> liz cheney said the almost word for word, in the closing remarks tonight. we also heard radio traffic of oath keepers reading trump's tweet as they flooded the capital, and warning to our audience right now -- it is graphic. here it is. >> they just said that they evacuated all members of congress into a safety room. >> there is no safe place in the united states for any of these -- right now. let me tell you. >> they understand that we are not joking around.

>> military principal 105, military principal 105, cave means grave. >> trump just tweeted, please, support our capitol police, they are on our side, do not harm them. >> that is saying a lot, but what he didn't say, he didn't say not to do anything to the congressman. >> well, he did not ask him to stand down. he just said, stand part of the capitol police, they are on our side, they are good people. so it is getting real down there, i have it on tv and it is looking pretty for gun radical to me. cnn said that trump has egged this on, and he is egging on, and he is watching the country burn two weeks before he leaves office. he is not leaving office, i don't -- what they say. >> we are in the main dome right now, we are -- shooting people, and --

>> be safe, be safe, god bless, godspeed, keep going. >> get it. do your -- this is what we -- for. everything -- we trained for. >> over the capital, over in the capital. >> we are in the -- capital's trump. >> there is a lot in there. the talk about cnn a lot, but they are watching, the other thing is, why is this? is this entitlement? is this delusions of grandeur? he is not leaving, i mean, elise sitting here saying that did not age well. these rioters were hanging on trump's every word, clearly they saw him as a director of this attack. >> absolutely. there's two things that jump out to me here, one is what you just mentioned, we see how closely they are hanging on me is every word, his every tweet, has every utterance, everything he says they interpret us some

sort of a signal to action. the second thing, is if we needed another example, we really don't. but if for any reason, anyone out there believes that this is just a group of, you know, people during the capitol, walking politely between the velvet ropes. you see through these recordings how deeply committed these people are. >> they said, this is what we trained for. do your -- that is what they said. >> that is right, that is right, that is exactly right. this is a committed, diluted, violent group of people who are absolutely 100% behind this man and his lies. that is a very dangerous thing for this country. >> you know, andrew, we also side video of rioters reacting telling them to disperse and go home. many of, them they did, is it proof that trump could have ended this sooner than he did? >> it is absolutely proof.

we saw that from his own people, right? sarah matthews, others, they were pushing trump to make a statement because they knew that it would work. ultimately, it did. in a halfhearted way. but, the connections here, the relationship is so obvious to anyone who keeps an open mind. this is the testimony and -- >> have you witnessed that sort of behavior from the -- have you witnessed that sort of behavior from any group? >> it is -- [inaudible]

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and president trump's refusal to call off the rioters at the united states capital on january 6th, as well as new insight into what was happening around vice president mike pence as the crowd threatened to -- david axelrod's, back alex do it as well. so, ali, i promise this question earlier, so trump near the capitol was under attack 15 minutes after leaving the january six speech, and he sat in the dining room, he watched it take place, and then he sent that to 24 p tweet, slamming prince. this is the thing that sent shockwaves through the white house. >> andy mccabe was cracked in the last segment when he said, generally speaking, it is not a crime to do nothing. however, it is relevant in a couple respects. first of all, if you are trying to prove as a conspiracy to steal the election, before the united states of alok shun, conspiracy to obstruct congress, you need to show the person's intent and to meet evidence

result of it clearly shows donald trump's intent was exactly what happened was what he wanted to happen. is there any reasonable dispute now about the -- happy with what he saw >> was about sending out a tweet threatening -- calling the vice president a coward and saying he let us all down at the same time you are being told he is under threat. >> exactly, putting his life in further danger. >> and that is an affirmative step, that is an actual act, we got really important context around that tonight because we know now that trump was watching on, tv he knew what we all knew that trump was under attack and every one of his advisers was saying, you need to do the opposite. >> well, it inflamed supporters. the committee showed that video, watch. >> [noise] >> they call and

response is a remarkable, we've seen this before. remember the witness to testify to get the last, hearing the guy who pled guilty and got storming in the capital. he said the reason we stopped was when donald trump finally -- he said the video at 4:17, and he said if he hadn't sent that video an hour or two earlier, we would have been out of their than as well. this bears that out. >> david we also got some new information into what pence was doing as the right, unfolded watch this. >> he -- with president pence, he was very animated and he was very explicit, very direct, unambiguous, there is no question about that and i can get you the exact quotes from some of our records, he was

very animated, very direct, very firm. yet the guard down here. put down this situation. >> meanwhile, he was not calling pence or anyone in the military, there's another soundbite with him setting up the capital on their, salt and the leader is doing nothing. >> the chief of staff says we have to change the narrative to indicate that the -- you know, it looks like the president has not in charge. and, you know, he was really disgusted about that. >> let me ask you something though, what if he had marched there, what if they had allowed him, if he had actually marched down to the capitol with this crowd. what was he going to do? >> go get him? >> i mean, it is really hard to

imagine what he had in mind. was he going to lead the insurrection down there? -- >> or just stand there? >> he clearly wanted the optics of him with his people out there doing everything they could to stop what they perceive as a fake -- >> perhaps they should've let, him because don't you think that would've been worse for him in the end? >> yeah, i don't think they were trying to provoke the right, i don't think the people who stopped him or trying to provoke a right. >> i think that would have been, worse because he would put himself in the middle of this right. there's video and footage of him. >> remember why pat cipollone testify, to he said to cassidy hutchinson, if we let that, happen if we let him go down that we will break every law in the books. we are going to be breaking, every law tried for every law, every law known. >> yeah, so fortunately he did have some people of team normal -- unfortunate listened to until it was too late in the day, and much damage was done, many

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>> the committee revealing tonight that certain secret service witnesses have hired lawyers and may be willing to

testify under oath. now this development coming after the testimony of cassidy hutchinson, the former aide to mark meadows who relayed the story of -- capital speech to his supporters on the ellipse on january six. tonight the committee presenting evidence corroborating her testimony which we will here in just a moment, but first what hutchinson told the committee. >> the president said something to the effect of, i am the -- president, take me up to the capital now. to which bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel, mr. angle grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your hands off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing, we are not going to the capital.

mr. trump then used his free hand towards bobby engle, and mr. -- had recounted the story to, me he had motioned towards his clavicle's. >> now let's hear the testimony the committee presented tonight. >> we have evidence from multiple sources regarding an angry exchange in the presidential suv, including testimony we will disclose today from two witnesses who confirmed that a confrontation occurred. the first witness is a former white house employee with national security responsibilities, after seeing the initial violence at the capitol on tv, the individual went to see tony ornato the deputy chief of staff in his office. mr. ornado was there with bobby angle, the presidents lead secret service agent. this employee told us that mr. ornado said that the president was, quote, irate when mr. engel refused to drive him to the capital. mr. engle did not refute what

mr. ornado said. the second witness is retired sergeant mark robinson, of the d.c. police department. he was assigned to the presidents motorcade that day. he sat in the lead vehicle with a secret service agent responsible for the motorcade, also called the tsa agent. here's how sergeant robertson remembered the exchange. >> was there any description of what was occurring in the car? >> no. only that the only description i received was that the president was upset, and that was adamant about going to the capitol and there was a heated discussion about that. >> and, when you say cheated, is that your reward, or was that the word described by the tsa agent? >> well, described by the ts meaning that the president was upset, and he was saying there was a heated argument or discussion about going to the

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committee laying out damning new evidence and testimony detailing how the then president refused to do anything for more than three hours as armed rioters attacked our capital. i want to bring in cnn political commentator scott jennings. national security analyst julie it can, legal analysts with an s eliot morgan's and jennifer rogers. good evening, we need you guys tonight. we need you guys more than anything. we need you guys as well, sorry. [laughs] >> she looked at me like, wait a minute. i'm so glad you guys are all here. scott, one of the most shocking moments from tonight's hearing was when the secret service radio when it talks about pence's detail. as a scramble to get him into a secure location, listen and then we'll talk. >> oh -- there in the building. >>