made the commitment to buying the long-range hypersonic weapons concept, a separate program, in the coming fiscal year. >> thank you very much. from the pentagon tonight. earlier in our program, our guest referred to allegations against matt gaetz. we should note, matt gaetz has not been charged, let alone convicted. thanks for joining us. ak 360 starts now. good evening. we begin tonight with major new development where is the january 6th hearings left off. >> we have much work yet to do, and we will see you all in september. >> well, one thing became clear today, nobody is waiting until september. for starters, we learned tonight that marc short, former vice president pence's chief of staff testified under subpoena last week before a federal grand jury in washington. now, this is significant because short was there in the room for some of the key moments on and around the sixth. he's also the highest profile

witness known to have testified so far. and we'll talk more about what that might say about the justice department's criminal investigation, and how far it can go. also late today, president biden weighed in on the central figure in thursday's january 6 hearings. >> we saw what happened. the capitol police, the dc metropolitan police, other law enforcement agencies were attacked and assaulted before our very eyes, speared, sprayed, stomped on, brutalized. and lives were lost. and for three hours, the defeated former president of the united states watched it all happen, as he sat in the comfort of the private dining room next to the oval office. >> as for the committee, it apparently is not waiting for september either. today, a member virginia democratic congresswoman elaine lauria released a new video clip that shows the former president's unwillingness to

include language that held the mob he invited, incited, and wanted to join accountable. >> do you recognize what this is? >> it looks like a copy of a draft of the remarks for that day. >> and, as you can see throughout the document, there are lines crossed out. there are some -- there are some words added in. do you recognize the handwriting? >> it looks like my father's handwriting. >> in my view, he needed to express very clearly that the people who committed violent acts, went into the capitol, did what they did should be prosecuted and should be arrested. >> it looks like here that he crossed out that he was directing the department of justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to

the fullest extent of the law. we must send a clear message not with mercy but with justice. legal consequences must be swift and firm. do you know why he wanted that crossed out? >> i don't know. >> and that stated they did not represent him or -- or his political views in any form or fashion. >> he also crossed out, i want to be very clear, you do not represent me. you do not represent our movement. do you know why he crossed that language out of the statement? >> i don't know. >> those are the voices of jared kushner and ivanka trump, claiming not to know why those words were crossed out. the simplest possibility, of course, is that the president, the former president, crossed it out because he did not agree with it and he didn't want to say it and knew the implications if he did say it on his

supporters. at thursday's hearing, you'll recall the select committee showed video of the former president refusing to read another line once the election was over because he didn't believe that it was, and still wasn't to this day. we could hear more along those lines tomorrow when he returns to washington for the first time since leaving office. he'll be giving the keynote speech at a think tank staffed by former administration members. as for what's next, the missing secret service text messages from and around january 6th. here's zoe lofgren today. >> well, i don't know, but here's the facts. i mean, on january 16, secret service received a letter signed by four committee chairman -- this is before the j6 committee existed -- telling them fro serve all the evidence. 11 days later, they erased it. so, that's problematic. >> congresswoman lofgren also endorsed these remarks by liz cheney about compelling

testimony from ginni thomas, the right wing activist of clarence thomas. >> is your committee planning on talking to ginni thomas, even though her lawyer has expressed a reluctance to cooperate? >> we are. the committee is engaged with her counsel. we certainly hope she will come in voluntarily. but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not. i hope it doesn't get to that. i hope she will come in voluntarily. >> ginni thomas, you'll remember, repeatedly corresponded with then white house chief of staff mark meadows and trump's lawyer, john eastman, who became the former president's scheme to overturn the election. so, also ahead, what might come from the criminal grand jury in georgia, probing the election meddling there. we've got new reporting as well on the dark cloud hanging over it all, the fact that a recent

polling, 70% of republicans now believe some variation of this dangerous theme you're about to hear. >> trump has told lies about the election in that he said that he didn't really lose. do you think that all the lies about the election are damaging for american democracy? >> you believe he lied? >> do you not? >> no, i do not. i don't -- why? he won. >> so, some breaking news, "the new york times" and "wall street journal" reporting that greg jacob, former counsel to the vice president, also appeared before the grand jury. that's cnn's donie o'sullivan talking to those two people. and we'll have more from his report ahead in this hour. first let's go to cnn's ryan nobles at the capitol. what more can you tell us about jacobs' and mark swartz's testimony? >> it clearly means the department of justice investigation into election meddling is expanding in a big

way. both marc short and greg jacob are two key players. when they began their cooperation with the january 6 select committee, it opened the door to a whole line of pressure that was put on vice president mike pence during that period of time. it provided insight into the push to have pence stand in the way of the certification of the election results on january 6th. efforts to get him to accept a false slate of electors. there are so many different connections that pence's office has to the attempts to stand in the way of the election e being certified for joe biden. and the fact that jacob and marc short, who were both very cooperative with the committee and told them a lot about what they knew during that period of time, it also would indicate that they would show the same level of cooperation with the department of justice as well. so, this is absolutely significant. it shows just how serious the department of justice is taking things, as their investigation speeds up in a major way.

>> do we know why congresswoman laurie released this video clip today instead of if including it in the hearing last week? >> yeah, we do. it's basically because the committee has so much evidence and they do not have enough time to pack them all into these public hearings. more than 17 million people watched on thursday night, but the hearing only lasted about two and a half hours. i'm told that as they planned these hearings, one of the first dress rehearsals, the initial hearing could have run as long as four hours because they had so much content and evidence that they believed was necessary to share with the american people. as a result, they still have a lot that didn't make it into the hearing that they will release at different point. a adam kenz ger released a preview to the hearing. on that day, none of that content was in the hearing itself. we saw this today. there's a good chance we're going to see more examples of this in the days ahead, particularly in the month of august, where the committee plans to do most of its work behind closed doors. we should expect them to release this type of content and

evidence as they lead into these next round of hearings, which will take place in september. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it. thank you. for more on marc short, the federal grand jury, and what it could mean, we're joined by jeffrey toobin. greg jacob, marc short testified in front of a federal grand jury. >> it's a big deal, especially in the big picture. the main criticism of the justice department so far has been that they're unduly focused or exclusively focused on the small fish, the people who were inside the capitol, you know, who trespassed, who committed acts of violence and not focused at all on the people who may have committed the larger offenses, the people closest to trump. this shows that they are looking at what was going on at the white house. plus, you know, the pence officials are part of or witnesses to at least three of

the most important areas of inquiry. one is the pressure on mike pence to violate his oath and stop the certification of the election. the fake elector scheme. and the effort to corrupt the justice department. they know about all of that. so, the fact that the justice department is now -- has those people in the grand jury suggests that's what they're investigating. >> this is a dumb question, but the justice department, do they need to re-interview before a grand jury everybody who testified before the january 6 committee or the main players? >> well -- >> they won't just take the testimony that was given under oath by marc short, obviously, to the january 6 committee. >> they could. and they could just use that testimony in the grand jury. the issue with the grand jury is at some point, presumably, they're going to be asked to issue indictments of someone. they have to have evidence on which to base those indictments. you know, hearsay evidence is admissible in a grand jury. so, they could go play the

videos of the depositions of -- from the january 6 committee. but prosecutors usually want to see witnesses for themselves. they may not ask exactly the same questions as those -- >> would they have to subpoena marc short? >> he said -- >> they did. >> -- that they did. >> what does it say they were willing to subpoena someone as formerly high level as marc short? >> it shows they're serious. this is -- that's why today is so important, this grand jury testimony is so important, because it shows the justice department is not just focusing on the small fish. now, whether there will be indictments of people up to and including president trump, i certainly don't know that. but there certainly wouldn't be indictments of the people like trump if these people were not in the grand jury. >> you did here merrick garland saying, you know, no person is above the law.

pg i guess you could look at this and say this puts this into sharper focus. >> grand jury investigations are, by definition, secret. the only reason this came out is because reporters happened to just see shortcoming out of the courthouse. we don't know who exactly had testified in the grand jury. but, you know, this -- the fact that they are there is a big deal. >> so, we don't know and won't know until either someone breaks it or charges are filed how far advanced they are in their investigation. >> no. i mean, there are several ways you can find out. i mean, you can see people -- physically see them going in and out. all the reporters know which are the grand jury rooms. individuals can say that they testified, but, you know, whether the grand jury issues an indictment or not, that is almost never known until -- it happens. >> if this investigation continues and there's a new

president and that president appoints a new head of the department of justice, does the investigation automatically continue? zblit certainly does not automatically continue. it can continuity. the custom in the justice department, especially with career people, is that investigations continue from one administration to the next. but certainly the senior leadership will change. and i think if didonald trump i elected president in 2024, the odds of this investigation continuing in any form like that, i would say is remote at best. perspective on this and the bigger picture, joined by thomas freedman, author of a virtual library of best sellers, including "from beirut to jerusalem." last time we spoke was right after cassidy hutchinson's testimony. you said the truth is of no value if we cannot act on the truth. does marc short make you think

the truth may be acted on. >> anderson, if you watch every day now, you see not only very senior former administration officials stepping out and testifying. but i would also point to something very important. i think the editorial in the "wall street journal" and the "new york post," rupert murdock's two flagship newspapers saying that donald trump was unworthy of being president again, i think that's very important. and they cited the january 6th committee. that's a direct connection between saying this truth that has been revealed by this committee leads to this action. this man is unworthy of being president again. it is so important. >> it is so interesting that that has occurred. you could make the argument, look, a lot of the information that we saw, the timeline, what the president did on that day was more or less known. but there was something about the sheer weight of hearing after hearing, well-organized in which we, the country, is

confronted -- those who watched -- are confronted day of day or session after session with the granular horror of what occurred on that day and in the run-up to it. >> yeah. i think that's what it is. it's been the drip, drip, drip of truth. again, we have to thank every day liz cheney for having the courage to step out and make this, all beit in a small way, a bipartisan committee. it is affecting a lot of principled and moderate republicans, readers of the "wall street journal," traditional or business republicans and whatnot, and take 10% to 15% of the party they represent and you tell them and act on trump is unworthy to be president, and the party has a problem. and you see people acting on the truth, anderson, in that vice

president pence, basically every speech he gives is a critique of his former boss and partner. so, desantis, they're all sort of stepping out here. i don't know when the dam is going to burst, if it's going to burst, but one day, one of them -- not a mitt romney or a liz cheney. but one of them in the center is going to step out and say, donald, it's time for you to step aside. >> we're going to hear later in the program from some of the former president's supporters who believe the lies the election was stolen, despite the evidence to the contrary. donie o'sullivan has that unenviable task of asking those questions time and again. is any of that mallable? can that be changed? or is it too baked in? >> i think i've always felt that a lot of people who supported trump didn't really care that much about trump. they actually hated the people who hate trump more than they actually were focused on trump. and i think we do have to ask

that so deep now into his career in public affairs in our country, how is it that a significant number of people, despite all of the evidence, still see donald trump as a brick they want to throw through a window? why do they feel that way? what is that window? what is that brick? i think, as reporters, we do have to keep asking that question and not just dismiss this. at the same time, i take sucker, anderson, in the fact that people like "the wall street journal" and the "new york post" are basically saying, no, that's the truth. and the truth compels action. and the action is that this man is unworthy to be president. >> and yet so many republicans in the senate, in the house, are claiming they're not even watching the hearings. i saw tim scott say he wasn't watching the hearings. i think he said that on fox news. it's -- the idea -- i mean, maybe they're not. but the idea that they are not -- they don't care enough to watch or just want that as an

excuse that it can distance themselves, i mean, these are significant hearings. >> oh, a, i doubt that they're not watching. but i'll tell you one thing, anderson, they read "the wall street journal" and they read the "new york post" and they know where their bread is buttered from. they know which media, you know, they need in order to be re-elected. and i guarantee you, a lot of them today in the quiet of their conversations were saying, did you see that editorial by rupert? >> as rupert goes, so goes the rest of the republican party? >> well, i think that, you know, rupert murdock's media has been so much the house organ of the republican party. we know when you watch some of these senators how frightened they are if they're criticized by anyone on fox, let alone in the "new york post" or "the wall street journal." i just think it was a very important break in the dam. and it just takes 10% or 15% and

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the house january 6th committee says helped device a scheme to overturn the election. it's unclear what thomas said to eastman in the emails or if she will appear before the committee to try to explain any of it. the committee is trying to investigate more than two dozen text messages thomas sent to mark meadows, donald trump's chief of staff. >> the second reagan revolution is growing. >> reporter: in one text from november of 2020, ginni thomas wrote to meadows, help this great president stand firm, mark. the majority knows bide skpn the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. in another she seemed to embrace a long-held false qanon conspiracy theory that trump had water marked mail-in ballots so he could track fraud. she wrote, it's been part of a

sting operation in 12 battleground states. long debunked conspiracy theory that electronic voting machines had somehow switches ballots from trump to biden. she wrote to meadows, sounds like sidney and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud, make a plan, release the kraken and save us from the left taking america down. ginni thomas urged meadows to watch a youtube video about the power of never conceding. >> if she has relevant information or investigation, we hope she comes in voluntarily. >> in an interview this year with the conservative website the free beacon, ginni thomas said she briefly attended the january 6th rally at the capitol but returned home before the insurrection. a lawyer said he does not believe there is sufficient basis to speak with her. >> reporter: according to clarence thomas' biography,

ginni thomas was raised virginia lamb and raised in omaha, nebraska. her father was an engineer and her mother was an outspoken republican activist who played a prominent role in her daughter's life. according to "the new york times," she joined her high school's republican club in 1974. later at creighton university in omaha, she earned a law degree. in march, a video circulated on twitter showing thomas speaking at a 1986 cult awareness event in missouri. on the decades old video, she shares her experience of leaving life spring, a controversial group founded in 1974, long considered a cult. >> when you come away from a cult, you have to find a balance in your life as far as getting involved with fighting the cult or exposing it and kind of the other angle is getting a sense of yourself. and what was it that made you get into that group? >> reporter: she reportedly met

clarence thomas in 1986 at a conference on affirmative action. they married in 1987. >> i keep a sign on my desk, don't make fun of your wife's choices. you were one of them. >> i mean, clearly the january 6th committee has a lot to ask her about. has ginni thomas tried to explain herself in any way? she seemed to have bought into some of the craziest -- >> yeah. >> -- qanon and other fantasies out there. >> it certainly sounds that way. she has, anderson, tried to set the record straight on how much she shares with her husband. she spoke to the washington free beacon and told them, we share many of the same ideals, principles, and aspirations for america. but we have our own separate careers, our own ideas and opinions too. clarence doesn't discuss his work with me, and i don't involve him in my work. she also went on to say that she had no role in helping those

that were planning the january 6th events. and she said that the violence she saw at the capitol, she called it, quote, disgusting. >> i'm stunned though that she's texting mark meadows talking about releasing the kraken and white hat military operations. i mean, this is stuff you get off the internet that's just -- >> and that's why the committee might want to talk to her because they have these text messages and emails apparently and they want to know more. >> thanks so much. the biggest test yet of the former president's power of the republican party and the truth since he left office. donie o'sullivan shows us how the reality of the election and january 6th are dividing the gop in arizona. that's n next. it's easier to do more innovative things. [whistling]

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a week from tomorrow, arizona republican voters decide who they want on the ballot for the governor's race this fall. it is a race so bitterly divided that the former president and former vice president went there friday holding dueling events for two candidates. to put joe biden over the top, republicans may have to accept the vote. we warn you some of the language you'll hear may be offensive. >> he just didn't lose. >> do you believe the election

was stolen? >> yes. >> do you have faith in elections now? >> no. >> do you believe the 2020 election was stolen? >> no, i don't believe the 2020 election was stolen. i believe that there are aspects of the 2020 election that were unfair. >> in arizona, a republican party at odds with itself. trump and pence holding competing events for two very different understandings of reality. >> we need a landslide so big that the radical left cannot rig it or steal it, even if they try. >> at trump's rally, a bonfire of conspiracy theories. >> have you been watching january 6th hearings? >> i have. >> what do you think? >> i think they're a bunch of bullshit. >> why? >> well, because you have both sides. you're getting one side of the story. >> you mean, like, the side that attacked the capitol? >> you really believe that happened? >> i was there. >> okay. i have a lot of people that were

there too. >> and? >> and saw things that it wasn't what they say it was. >> but there's been hundreds of trump supporters now charged. a lot of them have pled guilty. >> and do you think it's right for those people to have those people in jail and not giving me justice in our american system? are you kidding me? >> do you think it was right that they attacked the capitol? >> i don't -- they didn't. that was an inside job, buddy. >> reporter: vast conspiracy theory that those who stormed the capitol were not trump supporters is widespread here. >> have you been watching the january 6th hearings at all? >> no. >> we saw it all going down and blm and antifa people in the building as well. >> i think 800 people now have been charged. >> yeah. >> none of them are black lives matter or antifa. >> they're not charging --

>> that doesn't mean anything. >> they have not been brought into court for their due process because they haven't been arrested. >> hunter biden hasn't been arrested. >> trump has told lies about the election in that he said he didn't really lose. do you think that all the lies about the election are damaging for american democracy? >> you believe he lied? >> do you not? >> no, do not. why would -- he won. >> reporter: but these are no longer fringe ideas. a majority of republicans do not believe biden legitimately won the election. the proud boys, who trump once infamously told to stand back and stand by, now a regular fix your outside his events. >> any proud boys want to talk to us today? no. are you watching january 6th hearings? >> no. >> nothing to see. >> cnn, right? >> cnn, yeah. not fans? okay. >> reporter: the former president to campaign for conspiracy theories spouting candidates saying they would have overturned the results of

the 2020 election in arizona, like kari lake, candidate for governor. >> i know for a fact we will no longer accept rigged elections. >> reporter: pence campaigning for her rival. >> reporter: here we met some republicans who are done with trump. >> i voted for trump twice. if mike pence runs, i'm voting for mike pence. >> okay. so, why is that? >> i just think that, you know, everyone's seen the january 6th committee. he stood up for democracy that day. he's like, i'm not leaving the capitol because i need to be here. and he was the one that was making phone calls to the military and trying to fix the situation, while trump was crying in the dining room. >> but even among this crowd, there is sympathy for trump's election lies and support for a 2024 run. >> you're about see pence speak here. trump's not a big fan of him right now.

>> i understand that. i hear that he could have not certified those results, pending all the claims of the fraud. and i wish he would have done that. >> pence had no legal basis to do that. also among those, rusty bowers, a life long republican and speaker of the arizona state house. >> we're talking to a lot of people in here today who say they're not even -- they're not watching the january 6th hearings. they still believe -- >> i know. >> -- the lies about the 2020 election. what is your message to them? >> i have no message for them. you don't want to look, you don't want to see, you won't see. i've seen enough to know. and i know other people right in this room have done their best to count everything and do it all right. >> reporter: he testified before the january 6 committee about trump's efforts to get him to overturn the 2020 results in his state. >> what is these conspiracy theories, these lies about the election, about democracy, what is that doing to trust in this state? >> it destroys it.

it destroys it. we've got to let things go. >> what would need to change for you to have faith in u.s. democracy? >> i don't trust our government first of all, period. and if you don't have fair elections, what good are you they? >> do you ever worry that you're wrong? >> oh, absolutely. >> do you ever worry trump has sold you a lie? >> yes, you start researching and thinking maybe i'm wrong and i'm being brainwashed and believing something that someone's telling me. but then you go in and look the other direction and find lies after lies after lies. >> it doesn't matter if it was stolen or not. if republicans want to take back the house and take back the senate and eventually the white house, they need to move on. >> i've got to say the fact that those two did doubt occasionally, they said, that they were wrong, maybe wrong, that's -- i mean, i think it's a healthy exercise for us all to

go through all the time, like, what if i'm wrong? >> yep. the issue, of course, is that when you go online and do your own research, as many folks do, is there is just such a vast array of bs, right? and there's so many very convincing -- there's a lot of money behind disinformation campaigns to convince people that american democracy is a joke. >> just the logic, as you pointed out. well, there's 800 people that have been charged and none of them -- there is no -- the guy was saying, we saw all these blm and antifa people. they didn't. they weren't there. >> yeah. and, you know, why i brought up the indictments was because that's on paper, right? and then, so when i say, well, why is no antifa or blm -- in their mind, it's not because antifa and blm are not there. it's because the deep state has died we're not going to prosecute antifa and blm. so, it's -- it's a very dark rabbit hole that you go down. >> even at the pence rally, you

were finding people who had bought into the lie. >> yeah, and that's what was -- both these events were on the same day. i went to the pence rally in the morning. pence was there to endorse a candidate who is more pro-democracy, of course. she hasn't quite said she wouldn't overturn the results t but the point being, pence was there to say, we believe in our democracy. even at that event, there were some trump supporters who went along with the pence candidate rather than the trump one. >> the proud boys, are they up late at night on the phone discussing what shirts that they're going to wear? >> i think there is a lot of coordination going on, yeah. i almost blended in there in my black. >> you were wearing fred perry. >> i can't afford it. >> well, the proud boys. donie, thank you. appreciate what you do. california's wildfire fight. the furry of the flames being called unprecedented. plus gary tuchman visits the hottest place on earth, for

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infrared camera. the white area shows the flames. the chief says the fire severity is the direct result of the climate crisis. california's severe drought means little comfort in the hottest place on earth, death valley. that includes a small down in the middle of the desert. gary tuchman takes us there to see what life is like there. >> reporter: if 125 degrees made a sound, this might be it. this siberian husky, far away from the land of her ancient siberian ancestors, living in furnace creek, california, the largest community in the majestic death valley national park, which is considered the hottest place on earth. tourists from italy. >> i think it's a one of a kind place. >> what do you think of the heat? >> it's -- it's a lot. but i think that you get your precautions, it can be sustainable. >> reporter: dee has lived and

worked here for 15 years and knows how to keep it sustainable. >> water, gatorade gorks to the shade when you need to, and take your time. always do a good job. don't rush it. >> reporter: dee is mowing the lawn in the blazing sun at a large resort called the oasis at death valley. she's the lead gardener and moved her from michigan. >> i love the work i do and the job i do, the people i work with. >> reporter: mike also gardens. >> with the heat, you might not realize you're losing a lot of fluids, feeling fatigue. heat exhaustion might set in. i have a schedule on my alarm. it forces me to take a break. it'll start going off -- we were talking, it was going off. >> sorry to interrupt. >> you're good, you're good. >> reporter: he also has one other tip. >> just got to love the heat. >> reporter: and lots of people do. the resort is full while we are

here. >> what inspires you is you're looking at the space and you say, wait a minute, this is a jewel in the middle of nowhere. >> reporter: in fact, most of the year, this jewel has comfortable temperatures. but the summer heat is intense now. almost all outdoor workers start early so they're done before the mercury finishes its climb. outdoor activities are busiest very early too, like golf, and what you're seeing here. >> there are lots of trails here in death valley. hiking is extremely popular. even during this month, july, the hottest month of the year. everywhere you go, you see signs and warnings. take plenty of water with you when you hike, and don't hike after 10:00 a.m. the day is still young. it is still morning, and the temperature is 111 degrees. >> reporter: relatively moderate, compared to the 120-plus which is only a few hours away, which leads to the outdoors becoming rather desolate. indoor death valley coming alive, like at the ice cream

parlor. >> working here, is it the best job or the best job? >> it's definitely the best job. >> dee beachum thinks she also has the best job. does she ever even consider moving back north? >> i never want to be in the cold, ever. >> you're happy with this. >> this is perfect. >> reporter: the sun sets, the temperature goes down to the low 90s overnight. anderson, there's no such thing as a cool summer in death valley. that's precisely why so many tourists want to come here in the summer and experience the intense heat for themselves. it's on their bucket list. that being said, it's nice to see that the tourists here for the most part seem to be paying attention to the residents here, respecting mother nature. we don't see any biking. we don't see any jogging, just slow and deliberate walking and lite of water bottles. up next, new details on the investigation into the robb elementary shooting after the school principal was placed on leave with pay. and the latest from a school

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just weeks until uvalde students are set to return to school, parents are expressing concerns with law enforcement and the lack of answers at the mass shooting at robb elementary school two months ago. >> the rest of the police department that are still on payroll, i don't see how you could expect the families to have the same trust, the lack thereof, to go drop of their kids at school, and the same guys are the same people that are supposed to protect them. >> this comes as uvalde county commissioners voted unanimously to conduct an independent investigation into the uvalde

county sheriff's office just today. what is the latest from the school board meeting? >> i think one of the things that is very clear, there is this disconnect. there is no trust between the school board and the parents. it seems i've been to several of these school board meetings and watching tonight. there's a lack of empathy, it seems, and this misunderstanding. they just cannot connect with the community, so much so that the community today -- they weren't even supposed to have this meeting. they were supposed to have it in a smaller room. the parents put pressure on them to have it in an auditorium. then they had all these police officers there and the parents were reacting in this angry way. take a listen to some of that reaction, anderson. >> and whose job was it to all call all of these lying officers in? i see more officers here than ever have looked over at our schools. what are y'all worried about? our kids are dead. what are y'all worried about? >> this is the thing.

every meeting i've been to, they've had all these officers there. and the problem in that community is they don't any police officers, not the local police officers, not the state troopers, skpernly not the school police officers. they want all of them gone. the school board has a lot of work remaining. >> what about the work on the police chief arredondo. >> that's in limbo. they were going to vote on that and his lawyer is fighting it. it appears there's some kind of fight going on. he's not going to win that fight in the end. but the school says we need to do this due process and this is the law and this is how we need to do things. >> the school principal at the time of the shooting has been placed on administrative leave. >> yes, she's on administrative leave. when the report came back, they listed all the problems at the school between the locks and the lack of security and the issues that the teachers were having with the doors. i guess now had the school is taking action againster had. so, we're seeing slowly some of the people who were responsible that day for taking action.

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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a lot happening across the january 6th landscape lately, including reporting that former vice president mike pence's counsel greg jacob testified last week before a federal grand jury. before jacob and marc short, who also testified last week, they're the two highest ranking officials in the former administration, who are now known to have talked. one more piece in the larger picture, which of course dominated by the fact that more than 17 million viewers watched what's been billed as the january 6th committee's season finale. and interest has certainly been high throughout. the question is whether any of it's changed any minds and whether it could change any votes in the midterms this fall and perhaps 2024. the one and only harry enton. are you seeing any change in the perception of the former president now that the hearings have concluded for now? >> one of the things i've learned covering president trump throughout his history is that the more he is in the news, the worse it is for him.