passed on to you. >> to me, yes. >> what was done to you and others here -- >> was passed on to my children. this is why sometimes i go into my range of anger, and i cry. because it was all done to us. all of us. but it's going to stop now. >> you believe that? >> it is. i'm breaking the cycle with my great grandchildren. >> aboriginal peoples based and ottawa said it welcomed the pope's apology and called for concrete actions to educate them about history. that's it for us. the news continues. don lynn into night. >> thank you for bringing light to that, anderson. great reporting. see you tomorrow evening.

this is on them tonight that we have a lot that we are learning. to top aides to the vice president testified in the doj's criminal investigation on january 6th. and the efforts to overturn our free and fair election. marc short who was chief of staff to then vice president mike pence confirming to cnn that he testified on friday in front of a d.c. grand jury. the new york times in the wall street journal reporting that greg jacobs's general counsel has also testified. and what we are hearing from the january six committee. now maybe an even bigger deal. even more damning. then what they showed us last week. and their final hearing the september. remember they showed us that president of united states, donald trump? the day after supporters attacked the capitol. what does lawmakers in the halls. the police with an inch of their lives. the day after all that. they showed us how he absolutely refused to say the election is over. now the committee showing us more of what donald trump refused to say.

top advisers and his own family begged him, the committee releasing a never before seen exhibit today. i'm going to play it for you. here it is. in its entirety. ok >> i'm not sure when those conversations began, because they could have started early the next morning, but i believe a started that evening, on the evening of the 6th. >> i thought we should give the statement on the 7th, and obviously moving forward on transition. >> i sat with her. i spoke to miller about trying to put together some draft remarks for january 7, that we are going to present to the president to try to say, we felt like it was important to further called for de-escalation. >> from what i understood at the time, and form with the reports were coming in, there is a large concern of the 25th amendment being invoked potentially. there were concerns about what would happen in the senate if there was the 25th that was

invoked. so the primary reason that i had heard -- we did not do enough. we need to get a stronger message out there and condemn this. or otherwise this will be your legacy. think about what might happen in the final 15 days of your presidency if we don't do this. that's when he talks about invoking the 25th amendment. >> do you recognize what this is? >> it looks like a copy of a trapped of the remarks for that day. >> and as you can see throughout the document, there are lines crossed out. there's some words added, do you recognize the hand writing? >> it looks like my father's handwriting. >> in my view, he needed to

express very clearly that the people who made violent acts went into the capital, did what they did, should be prosecuted? and should be arrested. >> it looks like here, that he crossed out, that he was directing the department of justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the lot. we must send a clear message, not with mercy but justice. legal consequences must be swift and firm. do you know why he wanted that crossed out? >> i don't know. >> and that needed to be stated. that did not represent him or his political views in any form or fashion. >> he also crossed out, i want to be very clear, you do not represent me. you do not represent our movement. do you know why he crossed that language out of the statement? >> i don't know. >> can you describe a little more for me about what mr.

kushner was asking you to do? >> i don't remember if it was a video message or a speech he was going to give her something, but booker i know people were deciding when he should say or what he should do. and he knew, since i'm always with him, hey, i asked your opinion. try to nudge this along. this will help everything cool down. >> nudge it along and what we? what does that mean? >> to make sure he delivers the speech, or whatever it was. i don't know if it was a video or speech or something. it was within a few days after january 6. >> was the implication of the president was in some ways reluctant to give that speech? >> yeah. >> okay, what do you base that on? >> the fact that somebody has to tell me to nudge it along. >> no other things he crossed out, if you look at that. you will pay? well, that was the one that said you belong in jail. someone crossed that out as well. think about what he refused to

say, though. he refused to say he was sickened by the violence. he crossed the part about prosecuting the people who broke lost that day. he crossed a, i want to be very clear, you do not represent me. you do not represent our movement. he crossed it up. what does that say? for people who say, this does not represent our party. would he didn't say, when he refused to say tells you everything you need to now. this is what the committee is leaving on the table. you could see why they need more hearings in the fall. committee members now saying that they may even continue their work after election day. stay tuned. john dean is here. he's a former white house counsel to the nixon white house and cnn global affairs analyst susan joins us as well. good evening to both of you. john, you first. that video, it's something else, as they say. seeing trump's reluctance to condemn the violence the day after the insurrection, plus

the handwritten edits, plus when everybody else was saying that he should do because it went to his reputation, his legacy and which is the show about trump's feelings toward the insurrectionists and how damning is this new evidence in your eyes? >> it shows the insurrectionists were doing exactly what he wanted. it played out exactly as he probably assumed it would. from early, i think this was part of the planning and part of the mechanics of how the process would work. that they would scare the vice president into the action they wanted or disrupt the action and prevent him from being able to carry it out. obviously, he has no remorse about it. no concern that he was harming people, that this was nothing short of a riot, and he knew that was going to happen with armed people. so this is about a clear statement, is what was in his

head. immediately after he knew what happened. >> you think this tells you about his mindset that day. it gives you some insight into that? >> yes, it does. >> susan, it shouldn't be hard for any u.s. president to condemn an attack on our democracy. yet, for trump, it is. these were his supporters! >> yeah, it's right, don. how difficult is it to say, i condemn the riot and the people who did violence to our capital should go to jail? i mean that really is not a controversial statement unless you are on the side of the rioters and the insurrectionists. i think the point is, remember the testimony they played the other day at the hearing? trump, in that same speech, as they were taping, and he also said i don't want to say the election is over. yesterday is a hard word for me. he literally, even after everything, even with the shattered glass and the u.s. capital, this has all been crystal clear for a long time.

i think we are filling in the details, don, but are you really -- is any of this evidence surprising in some way to? >> no. not surprising at all. but just to see it, it's important for us to see it and report on it. but to me personally, having reported on donald trump for 7 years no, sitting at this desk, no, it's not surprising to me. it makes sense why the committee needs more hearings. they have a lot of unfinished business, susan. >> yeah. i'm looking forward to -- they said they would release the full depositions. they conducted more than 1000 interviews. i think it's very important for the historical record as well as to assemble a full piece, talking about the reporter possibly doing interim report and a final report. i do feel that it is very important to see all the evidence laid out. in this entirety, we've seen polished and edited excerpts, if you will in these hearings so far of the depositions that .

i think it is important to get the full historical record. where are you more than a year and a half away. we are now hard up against the midterm elections. >> right. right. this came as a surprise to many, if not everyone, john. pence's former chief of staff, marc short said he testified before a federal grand jury. now the new york times, wall street journal, reporting that former pence attorney jacob also testified. we're talking about 2 high-profile witnesses here. why no? it is the say about where this federal and get estimation is heading? >> it tells me that the department of justice is doing a good bit of work with this grand jury to get up the witnesses at that level. there's been a lot of ground lead before they brought them in. they didn't just pop them in the grand jury. they have been interviewed probably weeks, if not months earlier in anticipation of the grand jury appearance. that's the norm.

these are not targets. these are witnesses. i found it interesting that marc short was spotted. and probably revealed greg jacobs as a result of that, by waiting into the crowd that was at the courthouse for the ban and try. he is sophisticated. he knew exactly what he was doing. he wasn't trying to hide the fact that he had been in front of a grand jury. obviously, he had some to chat with reporters. if not greg jacobs as well. we are getting at the stage now where you have adversarial witnesses who made talks and we will learn more about with the investigation is doing and its direction. >> very significant to chat with the cnn reporter, where he was talking with aaron burnett or he made significant comments. susan, we've seen so much movement with the 1-6 committee and the investigation in georgia.

does it seem like the federal investigation is picking it up? >> you, know the punditry about grand juries is a dangerous game, don. i would say it's clearly significant to be interviewing marc short and greg jacobs, because there are very important witnesses who directly saw the pressure campaign that donald trump mounted on his own vice president, mike pence, and by some accounts, when we ultimately find out which marc short testified, but he has told others that pence dozens of times made clear to his advisers he was not going to go along with trump's, frankly, scheme, this idea and notion that was being pressed on pants in the days before january 6, that he essentially would single-handedly have the power to stop the results certifying joe biden from being finalized.

so the question is, that's always been for me, if pence, again and again and his advisers make clear to donald trump that he was not going to go along with it, why did trump persist even into january 6th itself and his speech? he had just gotten off the phone with mike pence who again told him, no, i'm not going along with it. so, it's really a remarkable set of circumstances, and obviously complicated legally, something like this is never been charged of a former president. >> the fact there was no hoopla around it, we didn't get all the attorney notes, that we object to this, this is executive privilege and all that. they did it, they just went in and did their job. spoke to the grand jury and left. a gift comments afterwards. i want to play more, susan. this is what we heard from president biden slamming trump today for failing to respond to the january 6 plot. >> for 3 hours the defeated former president of the united states watched it'll happen. as he sat in the comfort of the private dining room next to the oval office. while he was doing that, braelon forsman officers subject to the medieval for 3 hours. face to face with creased mom, the police, lies, the police were heroes that day. donald trump lack the courage to act.

>> you could hear the scratchy voice. he's recovering from covid. that's the first thing i noticed. what do you think about biden laying into trump like that and showing the contrast between law enforcement and the former president? >> it is interesting. it's probably a sign of the effectiveness of the january 6 committee in putting these facts, which was already known back in front of the public in a powerful way. in fact, president biden has generally been reluctant to take a punch at donald trump and to bring up january 6. he has left the committee largely to do, businesslike think it's a sign, certainly many of binds own party hoping that he's going to come out with more against an ultra, and it's important to know that trump will actually be back in washington d. c. for the first time. since he left it, so let's just say i'm gracious -- ungraciously -- i do think the timing suggests that biden wanted to make that point before trump was back

here in washington, d. c.. >> why are you shaking your head? >> i was just thinking, she's nailed it right on. susan always does. >> he's going to be back. would you say? ungraciously? unceremoniously. the american people told him to leave. john, the 1-6 committee is a sharpening their focus on the secret service and they feel like they've just been scratching the surface when it comes to uncovering what is behind the missing text. how important is it that they get to the bottom of this? >> i think it's very important. it's important not only for this investigation, they find out if they're his data that somewhere could be retrieved, or if there is something more going on that would suggest the reason they maybe had intentionally erased this material. that is the key, but i think the fact that his has turned criminal, is very telling, that the department, this agency itself believes it's serious and it's only life might be at stake and what's going on here. >> thank you john, and susan. appreciate it. see they soon. the january 6 committee maybe setting its sights on

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two of mike pence's closest aides testified before a grand jury. -- jennie thomas, the wife of clarence thomas. joining me now is john avlon, and cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elliott williams. good evening to both of you, i took a pause when i was talking about her, because she is right-wing activist. that is the truth, that's fair to call it that. it's on to say that about a sitting supreme court justice's wife, but that's who she is.

-- you, before a grand jury investigating the january 6th insurrection. they would have key insights into pence to overturn the election, right? >> it most certainly would. it's really interesting, don, just a week ago, remember the attorney general last wednesday was asked, why is the justice department moving faster? why are you getting left by the january 6th committee. the attorney general gave a platitude, nobody is above the law, will go after anybody. it was sort of unlocked unsatisfying, it is a platitude, who's just a basic truth. the simple fact is, at that moment, there was a grand jury probably talking to either mark short or greg jacobs, the chief of staff for counsel to the president of the united states. the justice department at least

has opened investigation. -- >> why did this happen before the january six committee? >> don, this is not materialize like a clam shell in the ocean with venus being born. it takes a long time to put together a grand jury subpoena, i'm telling you. [laughs] this is like john dean said a little bit earlier, this must of been in the works for weeks, if not months before. >> you think the timing coincides? >> i really do, having worked on this for a long time. i don't think the attorney general got angry one day and decided to bring in mike pence's chief of staff. >> listen, john, the committee already has text between ginni thomas and mark meadows urging him to fight to overturn the 2020 election. how hard should they pursue her testimony? >> i think hard depending on what they see is material.

cnn has the texts, between ginni thomas and mark meadows. they're wildly inappropriate, aside from been wildly disconnected from reality. that's part of the puzzle here, this is by all accounts and intelligent and committed woman. committed conservative activist. in the context of the election, she played a frontline role i think as a cheerleader, or leveraging your contacts in ways that were disconnected from reality. voicing conspiracy theories, and also emailing legislators who are trying to overturn the election. that's where i think a question of colonel culpability. >> why is's been allowed to happen? shouldn't ginni thomas realize, and clarence thomas, he is a sitting supreme court justice. even if you sit down with his wife, and they have a conversation stop it? i mean come on. >> the guardrails have been eroded. >> it's ridiculous this

actually happening in our country. >> it is, i hear you on that. the issue, is the kind of common sense and decency was a key assumed. you supreme court justice, with parkas responsibility, everybody has their own opinions, you're titled here on opinions not your own facts. but if you are the supreme court justices immediate family, you have to rein in then a little bit out of respect for the role he has played. those guardrails are gone, it's a function of hyperpartisan ship in polarization, as made as crazy as a society. >> isn't it crazy that people would just -- as you, said there is no guardrails. we will just do what they want to do, and there are no consequences for it. >> it's particularly ironic from some with the conservative position, given a particularly talk about civic responsibility. >> elliott? >> >> don, i've written about the thomas is i think twice for a scene in opinion. this is bad, and destroying the reputation of the supreme court, where the public already has a

low opinion. she ought to come in as a witness. whether things you said repeatedly is well, clearance and i don't talk about all work at home. you and i, know and avalon knows that's nonsense. all of us who have partners know that you just can't leave these kind of things at home. number one it's bad for the court, and it's substantively important for the committee. most witnesses come in and figure out a way to negotiate the terms. if passed cipollone, the white house counsel who's a senior staffer to the president -- out to be able to negotiate something come in. it's nonsense, as hurting the reputation of an institution that is already losing a lot of it standing in the american public. >> let's turn now to what's happening in fulton county down in georgia, where the da dante willis was told by a judge today that she can't make they have fake elector and state senator bernie johnson target

of her investigation, because willis hosted a fund-raiser for joneses opponent. which is in the georgia and lieutenant governor's race. >> yeah, we were talking about common sense and no guardrails. if you want to be the da of fulton county, you gotta put partisan politics aside. >> i know a lot of these are partisan races for da. you got a hold yourself to a higher standard -- electioneered against subpoena them, even if there's evidence that they are part of those fake electors plot. sending out 16 subpoenas. it doesn't go to her case, but it causes you to question the judgment. you got yourself to a higher standard if you hold office. that includes people have actively campaigned against. >> i do, when i see da's, elliott, or anyone who's in that capacity out doing partisan kind of things. i think, for me, it lowers the credibility.

during protests in that kind of thing, people who are in charge of investigations should hold themselves to a different awful. >> yeah, however done, the overwhelming majority of district attorneys across the states, i like to say is up above 90%, are elected in partisan elections. it's the norm in america that you have people who are elected officials, who are also supposed to set aside. it's this weird gray area. >> i'm not saying you should drop the hammer on people. it started to drop the hammer of people if you are holding a fund-raiser for the presence of ponies >> taking to the extreme, does that mean only democrats can investigate democrats, or vice versa? i don't know how you get this to be work trouble if you have elected officials as prosecutors. i'll say this, this in some cases he did our favor, because if he's indicted it will be by another prosecutor the doesn't, like her deputy or another office. it takes away the sort of

stench politics, and maybe is not about think thicker off. i'm with you both on this, it's a judgment question, and just doesn't work. >> she just got in the last word, john? >> that's fine. do you want to take it? three words, a little justice under law. and a little bit of fairness and decency. >> oh my gosh. >> come on now. >> thank you, jim. >> just having america the beautiful, and the flag waving behind me. >> thank, you the white house trying to downplay fears of a recession, but several top economists fear it. -- let's see if you can tell the last segment, we'll see him after the break, later. you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your discover card.

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all right so larry so summers is here, but hey larry thanks for joining us evening. i know that you disagree with these white house officials, do you think we are heading into a recession, correct? but >> in part i disagree, and in part i agree. let's be clear, whatever thursdays number is, even if it shows some kind of small, negative gdp growth. i think the overall ming way to the evidence is that we are not in a recession now. the negative gdp this in a sense, misleading. people spent a lot of money, so the inventories gotten drawn down. that is a sign of strength, not a sign of weakness. whatever the gdp numbers show. i do think that over the medium term, the great [[8126

likelihood is that we will have a recession, because when we have an economy as overheated as the economy that we have, that has been the almost universal historical experience. so i think the chances of achieving that soft landing with steady labor market strength, it could happen, but i don't think it's the best bet. and i think increasingly, that's the judgment that has been reflected in markets. to be clear, it's a forward-looking judgment, and the white house was right in saying that whatever the thursday gdp number it doesn't look like we are in a recession right now. >> so, do you not think that the white house is moving -- the goalpost of a recession actually is. >> look, i have overtime -- >> is in the thought of as two quarters of a negative gdp growth?

sorry to cut you off. >> i'm sorry, don. don, that is a rule of thumb that has been used to approximate the much broader concept, which is an across the board downdraft economic activity. but it is not the formal definition. it's not with the national bureau of economic research or the economics profession used. i've been plenty critical of the administration about a variety of things. but they are not moving the goalposts here. when they say that whatever happens on thursdays number, it does not prove that we are in a recession. frankly, the people who are saying that are politically oriented people are better, and i say that someone who is no optimist about the u.s. economy. i do think we will get to recession, but the claim that

we are in one if thursday's number is negative, is one that is made by people who are either ignorant of economics already think more frequently looking to make political points. >> i'm glad you said that. thank you for clarifying that, larry. let's talk about what americans are feeling. 64% of americans feel that the economy is in a recession. that's according to cnn's latest poll. i understand what you're saying, and that's technically not subtle, but that is how people feel. we are hearing a lot of spin and fancy definitions but when people feel this recession, why not just tell them which is really happening? i guess we are telling them what's really happening that they just don't feel it. they feel like there is a recession going on. >> look, we can argue about the semantics. people feel bad, because the purchasing power of with they are earning has gone down. the reason the purchasing power

of with they are earning has gone down, is that we have had 9. 1% inflation. that is a lot faster than people's paychecks are rising. the reason that has happened is that policymakers made mistakes. in 2021. they kept speeding even as they light was on. and that's why we are now at more risk. it's a very difficult situation, so people are right to say that they are hurting. but if we want to have a durable cure to their herding, what we have to do is address those very high rates inflation. that there are some things that the administration could do, like what they did with the strategic petroleum reserve, with they're hoping to do with four mystical price reduction. wet -- in terms of tariff reduction.

more emphasis on the government buying things in expansively, but monetary policy and how much money we are printing is ultimately going to be a very important for that rate of inflation. i think it's that rate of inflation that is of the center of why there is so much distress, and that is why i'm glad that chairman powell belatedly, very belatedly, is making, bringing down inflation, is essential priority. i think we've got to kick this inflation, where things are going to get that much more difficult. >> larry, i want to ask you. i think it's an important question. it sounds odd. but there's also a generational sort of feeling, or experience about this. older americans who have gone through this again, who have seen higher mortgage rates,

higher gas prices. a feel a different way about what's happening in the economy. you know, quite frankly, some -- someone my parents age or grandparents says you guys have just gotten used to it for so long, being so good, you don't remember how things used to be. i had a 10%, whatever, paraphrasing, a mortgage really. we used to pay this autumn mount for gas prices. they were pretty high. do you understand what i mean? there is a generational sort of difference about what is happening with our economy, that younger people may feel differently than others. >> i think that's right. look, don, when, i mean i'm hardly someone who anybody should ever feel sorry for, but when i got my job at harvard, harvard offered me a 9% mortgage. i thought that was a fantastic perk, because the mortgage rate

at that time was 13% in the market. so yeah, there's stuff that happened 40 years ago that most people do not remember. i think a lot of it, generationally, has to do with what is happening with house prices. if you bought your house 15 years ago, it has been a fantastic source of wealth accumulation. if you don't yet have your house, don't yet have your condo, or whatever it is, and you are seeing them all go up in price, and that is feeling more and more out of reach. i think for the medium term, we've got to work on housing affordability. it's a crucial issue for potential homeowners in our country. >> yeah, he arrived. people are either rent poor or they can't make enough money to put it down payment, because of the cost of housing. larry, thank you. always appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> multiple shootings across several major cities this weekend.

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high temperatures and high crime rates, today over 40 million people under heat alerts and u.s.. that is following a weeks long heat wave that has so far it impacted more than 100 million americans. well the temperatures are rising so is crime. looking at crime rates from last week compared to the same week a year ago, in new york, violent crime is up 22%. and chicago, 62%. heat and crime, are they connected? i know it sounds odd, but let's discuss now, joining now retired captain ron johnson of the missouri state highway patrol and haunts mediums, the vice president of the triage response to the center for policing equity --

let's see what high temperature, what that means. good evening, gentlemen. haunts, you first. was the link between summer and crime surges? does heat have to do with it? >> hi don, thanks for having me. i think the answer is that it is complicated. but there is certainly a relationship between heat or rising temperatures and violent crime. that is attractive in a myriad of ways. what's important to note is that there is a confluence of other factors. violence on its face is more likely in areas that have less opportunities and more depression, or racism. where people are generally oppressed. that is what we know about violence overall. so the same is true for one violence concentrates because of heat or because if there is heat, it's really a confluence

of all of those factors, like opportunity, off of investment. it creates or allows for violence to cause a spike. notably, we are not talking about violence in the suburbs. so there are -- where he causes the concentration of violence. what's other factors we can talk about when we are talking about the impact of heat on violence in our cities. >> so ron, there is this 2019 study from the university of southern california that found that in los angeles when the temperature was above 85 degrees, crime rose by 5. 7%. do policing methods change at all when the season or weather changes? >> they don't really change. we know that crime does goes up, violent crime goes up. we are aware of that. we do try to target those times where we see those crime trends go up. put more manpower out there.

but historically, yes, when it's hot crime goes up. violent crime goes up. like the other gentleman said, we see a difference in some of our urban areas for suburban areas. but we also see it rising in suburban areas also. >> on, can we go back to something that you said, because you say a lot of crime increases can be attributed to opportunity. we know that there are more guns on the streets in america than anywhere else in the world. how big a factor is that? >> yeah, we know america has a gun problem, our cities, that's where we really see this problem. we can't divorces issues, poverty, crime, gun access, et cetera. to turn back to the solution to these problems, we can't say we are gonna put more police there. so those areas with more police. i think we are past that, right? in 2022 there is a couple of things that are true.

violence is gonna spike in the summer, right, we can do with slightly more than offer a punitive response about it. we have a lot more in our tool that. it should be easy to use it. we can allow people to think more about what they can do. there is a lot of programs that think about this way upstream and far-left of punitive response that say, well, let's put police officers there. ideally, those police officers will either use their handguns or their handcuffs to address this problem. we are really beyond that. we need to start thinking about that in a whole different way. this is one of those problems that we need to be far more creative on. >> violence interruption programs, ron, do you find that, do you agree with what holmes said? you find that to be effective? one of the solutions? >> i agree with him. i think putting more policeman is not the issue. i think we need interrupters. but i also think to have more program for youth to be involved in. during the summer months,

winter months. we have to have activities. those activities and mentors within those activities. so actually they have activities and they are also learning skills to de-escalate they're being around each other in a positive way. so policing is into the issue, but it is having programs interrupted and some of the things that haunts talked about. part of conversation we had before, it's also being -- grams of opportunity are a huge problem -- sooner they can take care of their family, violence happens, thank you very much. >> and a state known for wildfires, this one is being called unprecedented. it's forcing thousands to evacuate california's yosemite national park.

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