aide to then white house chief of staff, mark meadows, who testified before the january six committee, is cooperating with the department of justice. that's according to a source who acknowledged that discussions. it comes with the caveat. we don't yet know the extent of her cooperation. we are learning, though, that she is not alone. this morning, an acquaintance of hers, former white house communications director and current cnn political commentator, alyssa griffin, said she is, quote, aware of other white house officials who have been reached out to by the department and are planning to cooperate, and quote. she was more specific when asked about it this afternoon. >> there was someone else in the broader network who i consider mid level that could support some of what they are looking into, specifically around similar questions to what's short was asked about, which is the pressure campaign on mike pence in the days leading up to january 6th, those games up things like fake electors, and even some of these creative ways the certain officials at the department of justice wanted to bypass the law to try to hold on to

victory. >> and the short, she referred to their, former pence chief of staff, marc short, who testified before the grand jury, the federal grand jury. greg jacob as well they are on the right of your screen. served as a top lawyer to the former vice president. he also testified. which doesn't confirm the prosecutors are planning to make the former president's campaign to pressure mike pence into doing his bidding part of the case against him, but short and jacob's testimony, also with wet griffin just said, might suggest is, as does the washington post reporting yesterday that federal prosecutors have asked hours a detailed questions about the fake elector scheme. news of cassidy hutchinson's cooperation is also suggested because what you can tell prosecutors about former president appearing willingness to turn a mob, some of them he knew to be armed, on the capitol, and then refused to call them off. consider what she's already said to the house select committee. >> i was in the vicinity of the conversation where i overheard

the president say something to the effect of, i don't effing care they have weapons. they are not here to hurt me. take the effing mags away. let my people in, they can march to the capital from here. let the people in. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto -- that morning. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters have got into the capital, mark, we need to go down and see the capital, now. mark looked up at him and said, he doesn't want to do anything, pat. pat said something to the effect of, and very clearly had said this to mark, something to be effective, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die. the blood's gonna be on your

effing hands. >> that patchy is talking about in that case is former white house counsel, pat cipollone, whose cooperation with the department of justice -- markeese referring to is former white house chief of staff, mark meadows. he is another piece of the puzzle. we already know that mr. meadows has handed over thousands of text messages to the select committee. despite being cited for contempt of congress for refusing to testify, the justice department has declined to prosecute him, which raises questions about whether he two might be cooperating. something legal experts, including harvard law school laurence tribe has been talking about. we will talk to professor tribe about it in a moment. for his part, when asked recently about it, mark meadows literally walked away from questioning. >> have you heard the department of justice -- >> i don't comment on anything about january 6th. >> hearing these hearings, does it change your mind about president trump? you watch the hearings? >> i don't comment on anything on january 6th. i appreciate the job you are

doing. i don't comment on anything. >> today we know that people like cipollone and other people will talk about what you are doing in those 187 minutes leading up to the attack. >> cassidy hutchinson testified against what you said and what you are doing that. it you have any response to cassidy hutchinson? have you spoken to cassidy hutchinson after her testimony? >> as i said, i don't comment on anything on january 6th. i appreciate the job you are doing. >> have you been in touch with members of congress about pardons? is there anything the january six committee is doing that worries you? are you cooperating with the committee? do you believe you should bring more documents to the committee testimony? you think donald trump committed a crime on january 6th? mr. meadows, recently president

trump said he will make the announcement about the next election after january 6th. what about that comment? >> and the president opinions speak for themselves. >> would you continue to work with him? >> again, i am not commenting on anything that relates to president running, or january 6th. >> mr. meadows, we have seen some footage, we've seen your texts in realtime. is there anything you want to say about those 187 minutes and that day? >> obviously, i'm not commenting on anything on january 6th. >> so, he's not commenting. that's what i picked up from that, not to reporters at least. however, attorney general garland, is, and that is perhaps the most significant puzzle piece so far, because whatever happens next would be his call. he is now on the record saying he will prosecute anyone up to and including the former president, even if he is the presidential candidate again. >> we intend to hold everyone, anyone, who has criminally responsible for that then surrounding january 6th, for

any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another accountable. that's what we do. we don't pay any attention to other issues with respect to that. >> so if donald trump were to become a candidate for president, that would not change your schedule or how you move forward or don't move forward? >> i'll say again that we will hold accountable anyone who is criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer, the legit, transfer of power from one administration to the next. >> that might be, remains the biggest missing piece of the puzzle. still, we begin with cnn's ryan nobles at the capitol. ryan, what are you learning about former secretary of state mike pompeo's interactions with a january 6th committee? >> we know that pompeo and his team have been engaging with a committee. i'm told he could sit for a closed-door deposition with committee investigators as soon

as this week. that is an important development because we know the committee has been especially interested in members of the trump cabinet. i am told that is because they are very interested in conversations related to the 25th amendment after what took place on january 6th. there have been several cabinet members that have already come before the committee. we have seen some of their depositions during the select committee hearings and with some of the video deposition clips the committee has released, including chris miller, who is the acting secretary of defense. they just released some of his deposition this week. of course, the acting attorney general, jeff rosen, and also, that then labor secretary, eugene scalia. we know they talk to cabinet secretaries. they could've talked to cabinet secretaries that we don't even know about yet. but this also shows us, anderson, while the department of justice obviously expanding their investigation, the january 6th select committee is far from being finished. >> what about cassidy hutchinson? i mean, we know about the access she had during her time in the white house. the insight she has provided to

the house select committee already. how valuable a witness gucci before the justice department's investigation? some of what's she said was based on hearsay, things she had overheard other people say. >> it's a great point, anderson. all we know about her engagement with the department of justice right now is that she is cooperating. we don't know she sat for an interview that, if she has appeared before the grand jury. to your point, just what we have seen her already testify to in a public setting under oath to the january 6th select committee, certainly serves as a roadmap for department of justice investigators. it also could lead them to other potential witnesses they could bring in and ask questions to. this subpoena power the doj is a bit easier to enforce and then that of the january 6th select committee. hutchinson, no doubt, is a big key witness for the department of justice. we saw how many of the revelations that the committee were able to bring forward, kind of exploded around the hutchinson testimony and the public testimony provided in that hearing. when you couple that with what

we learned about john eastman, who is the conservative lawyer who had the pressure campaign on mike pence, the committee is not just interested in what they found on eastman during the surge of him a couple weeks ago, but that they now are specifically seeking access to his cell phone. that shows exactly where the department of justice is headed. it couples with what merrick garland told nbc this week, that is not just about the right itself, but also the attempts to stand in a way of the peaceful transfer of power. that shows how serious things are getting in the department of justice. >> right nobles, appreciate it. as always, thanks. perspective now from harvard law professor, laurence tribe, coauthor of to end a presidency, the power of impeachment. professor tribe, thanks for being with us. i want to get to the justice department expended criminal probe intimate. what are your thoughts though on mike pompeo sitting for an interview with a select committee? >> it's clear that the select committees interested in why there was discussion within the cabinet invoking the 25th

amendment, which would essentially have sidelined the former president. that amendment is their only for purposes of removing from power someone who can no longer safely exercise it. what was it that led them to think this man was so much out of control that he could no longer be trusted with the presidency? finding out in detail what he said to them, or what he said in their presence, could be invaluable in deciding whether he is a continuing threat, and what his state of mind was leading up to and during the violent insurrection. >> we have learned that federal prosecutors are investigating the former presidents conversations. they have seized phone records of former top aides. now, as we just heard, they have cassidy hutchinson cooperating with the justice department. we don't know to what degree at this point. what does it tell you, overall,

about the scope, the focus of this federal investigation? >> especially in the context of what merrick garland said to lester holt, but it tells me is that they are looking at the entire scheme to prevent a lawful trust transfer of power. it's a scheme that we now have reason to believe began right at the time of the election. it continued december. it was not simply at or around the january 6th insurrection. every indication is that they are looking at the fake elector scheme, they are looking at the pressure on the vice president, they are looking at the threats to his life, they are looking at the way in which the president encouraged, assembled, and, basically, aimed an angry mob at the capitol. they are looking at all of it. america arland could not have been clearer that he intends, through the department of justice, to completely hold responsible even the former president of the united states. >> do you believe merrick

garland would do that? obviously, it's one thing to say it, it's another to -- there's tremendous pressure. it was raised all sorts of political questions and accusations of politics if somebody, a former president, if he's running for office again, who was charged with something? >> do i believe him? absolutely. i've known him for 50 years. he was my student. he is a straight shooter. i believe every word he says. they are very measured words. he clearly believes that it would undermine democracy and not to mention the integrity of the justice department and his own legacy, for him to allow a former president, simply by waving a magic wand and saying, i think i'm going to surround myself with the shield a being a candidate, you can't get me now. he's not going to allow that.

if he were, anderson, then he clearly was misleading the american people, and we are being told, lester holt. it's just not in his nature to be sneaky. >> we heard rhinos reporting about the second warrant to search the cell phone of trump lawyer john eastman. what do you think the significance of that is? >> i think it is significant because, as the u.s. supreme court has said, when you search the contents of a cell phone, you are searching somebody's entire life. you are searching all their movements with people they talk to, they're texts, everything. originally, i think it was on june 22nd, they simply had a warrant to seize the physical object. the only way they could get the warrant from a federal judge to search the contents of the phone is to persuade a federal judge that those contents contained evidence of specific federal crimes. the only crimes eastman seems

to have been involved with are crimes that involve helping donald trump stay in office, by any means possible, however illegal. i think that's a very strong sign that the department of justice is pursuing the entire conspiratorial arrangement. >> finally, with mark meadows. the fact that -- do you think he is cooperating already? you think it's likely he would cooperate? >> i have no way of reading his mind. i can tell you the strongest possible reason, that the department of justice announced it was decided not to prosecute him for contempt of congress, the way they did bannon. they did have higher plants in store for him. that probably means prosecuting him for part of the conspiracy, seditious conspiracy, punishable by 20 years in prison, that would give him

quite an incentive to flip his boss. >> wow. lawrence tribe, great to talk to you. i appreciate it. >> good to talk to you, anderson. >> coming up next, with former acting defense secretary told the house select committee about the former president's failure to order national guard troops into the capital for the sixth. how it stacks up to mark meadows claims that the direct order was given? we will talk to former -- also tonight, cnn exclusively reporting about the biden administration is offering russia for the return of britney griner and paul whelan. a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose.

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undermining this key claim about the sixth. >> as many as 10,000 national guard troops were told to be on the ready by the secretary of defense. that was a direct order from president trump. >> that was former chief of staff mark meadows a month after the assault. here's the former president. >> i definitely gave the number of 10,000 national guards. i think you should have 10,000 of the national guard ready. they took that number. from what i understand, they gave it to the people at the capitol, which is controlled by pelosi, and i heard they rejected it because they didn't think it would look good. >> here is christopher miller, who was acting defense secretary at the time, in a hearing before the select committee. >> to be clear, there was no direct order from president trump of 10,000 troops to be on the ready for january 6th? >> no. that's correct. there was no order from the

president. >> no order from the president. you should know, this story is not quite cut and dry, as the washington post and others have reported. although the former president never gave a direct order, miller told vanity fair that in a meeting on january 5th, he did say, quote, you're gonna need 10,000 people. miller went on to say, quote, and we are like, maybe, but someone will have to ask for it, to which miller says the former president said, quote, you do what you need to do. again, and not an order. as the post fact-checker points out, he certainly did know how to order the national guard into action, as he did in june of 2020, when federal authorities used gas and flash grenades to clear the way for a presidential photo opportunity outside a church across from the white house. joining us now, william cohen, former republican senator for maine, and served as secretary of defense in the clinton administration. secretary cohen, thanks for being with us. are you surprised that the former secretary of defense testimony? debunks the lies from the

former president and mark meadows? what would be the process for a president to actually order it, order troops in? >> sure. a president, at anytime, could order the national guard to be activated as such. the very reluctant to do that, though, particularly we have the law, rules of engagement that happen to be very clearly defined. you can't just given an order and say carried out. you have to have rules in place at some point along the chain of command. dealing with the district -- of columbia is different. it's not a state, it does not have a governor. you would have, basically, the mayor of the city making a request that would go to the joint forces headquarters in d. c., of the national guard, who would reported to the secretary of the. army it's complicated because under the existing structure, the president is the commander-in-chief. he's delegated authority of the national guard to the secretary

of the army, the secretary of defense, rather, then delegated to the secretary of the army. a very complicated. all being changed. here's why i think what's clear to me, at least, with the acting secretary of defense. number one, remember on january 3rd, ten former secretary of defense wrote an open letter to the pentagon saying, remember your oath of office. i do not allow the military to be used for political purposes. your oath is to the constitution, not to any one president. secondly, we are finding out that it's a likely they were ordered to put 1000 troops and because the president didn't want the national guard to foil his plans to have this armed insurrection to storm the capital. if the guard hedman deployed and they would've come face to face with american citizens. they might have had -- that would've been a situation with the president of the united states using military, armed force against peaceful, at least at that point,

demonstrators. i don't believe the president gave that order. he may have done it a year before, back in june, 2020. he made the statement he wanted to have 10,000 troops go into the very cities where black people, essentially, supported by their white counterparts and associates were demonstrating against the police shooting and killing unarmed black men and women. then he said, i won 10,000 troops. he did not, i believe, say it here, or they would have been deployed. >> i want to play something the former president said in a speech yesterday, that the federal government should circumvent governor's use of the national guard to fight crime. let's watch. >> and where there is a true and total breakdown of law and order, where citizens most basic rights have been violated, the federal government can and should send the national guard to restore order and secure the peace without having to wait for the approval of some governor that thinks it's politically incorrect to call them in. the next president needs to send the national guard to the most dangerous neighborhoods in

basic rights have been violated, the federal government can and should send the national guard to restore order and secure the peace without having to wait for the approval of some governor that thinks it's politically incorrect to call them in. the next president needs to send the national guard to the most dangerous neighborhoods in chicago until safety can be successfully restored, which can happen very, very quickly. >> be on his we are teleprompter reading right now, does that make any sense to you? there's a reason, as you talked about, there's a reason that president isn't sending troops into cities at the drop of a hat. >> whatever happened to states rights? i thought that was a fundamental tenet of the conservative parties philosophy, that we allow the states to control their own citizens. in the event that any state governor says, i'm being overrun by protests, i can't control it, civil authorities breaking down, he can then request the president to send in troops to help him out. in extraordinary circumstances, whether there is a flood, a hurricane, whether they are

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a cnn exclusive, sources say that in efforts to secure release of americans britney griner and paul whelan from russia, the biden administration has offered to trump convicted arms trafficker viktor bout. this comes after the ongoing

drug trial. during that testimony she said she had no intention of smuggling drugs to russia and did not understand how it ended up in her luggage. mueller later told generalists that the -- was improper. whelan has been held in russia since 2018 on espionage allegations. bout is serving a 25 year sentence in the u.s.. joining me now is kaitlan collins and cnn senior political correspondent abby philip, who also interviewed griner's wife last month before the trial began. caitlin, why did the administration decide to make this proposal public? >> they said that this was this a decision they did not take lightly. obviously it's where two announce any details of a prisoner swap before it takes place. typically, that is done almost entirely behind the scenes, but very people knowing about it. even at such a sensitive situation but they said that a lot of factors went into this, anderson. i think what it has to do with is the timing here. this was a proposal that the

united states made to russia back in june. of course, it is now almost august and russia has not responded, not in a substantive way. i am told that they only acknowledged that they have received an offer from the u. s.. i should note that u.s. officials have not confirmed that it is viktor bout for britney griner and whelan. they have also not disputed that report. from our state department. the timing of here is of concern because this is somebody that they know russia very much wants. that is why they want to make sure that they are talking about this, putting this proposal out there, maybe it will increase pressure on the russians to accept a deal like this. that remains to be seen, but it is clear that the timing is a consideration here they have not gotten a real response for the russians yet on this front. >> abby, i know you reached out to the griner family to get the reaction, what have you heard? >> i think they are being very careful at this moment. it is partly because of what kaitlan collins is referring to. this particular moment is a delicate one.

for brittney griner's ongoing. they don't expect that it will conclude until about the first week of august. and they also don't expect, from what i heard from the people in the griner family and the griner camp, they don't expect a whole lot of movement until after this legal process, for whatever it is worth, is concluded. and so they are happy that this is out there, that the offer has been made. they have been pushing for this publicly and privately for quite some time. but also being extraordinarily careful to wait for this process in russia to play out and hoping that at the end of the process, this public pressure now from the biden administration urges russia to come to the table and to do a deal. >> kaitlan, is it clear how much president biden was involved in this proposal? >> he approved it. and something this high-level go go straight to the president for his approval before an actual proposal like this is made.

what is interesting about this is that this is not something that officials at the justice department wanted to see. they are not often fans of prisoner swaps. and you can understand why. preet bharara obviously was one of the people who prosecuted viktor bout, so you can hear from them, the people that work on the case, they don't often want to see this exchange, given that he is serving a 25 year sentence. he's described as this bad guy prosecutors who worked on that case. they don't often like to see something like this, but i think also they recognize that it is a reality. and president biden is the one who weighs the risk there and makes a decision. and he did make the decision to override any justice department complaints or protests of engaging in this and offering victor boot in this prisoner swap. he was involved in that matter. he obviously has a bit of involvement directly in offering it to the russians. which we are told has been made multiple times through several different channels. i ask today, does president biden need to get involved himself? they did not say yes or no yet, anderson. >> abby, i know you spoke with britney griner's wife last

about last month about a potential prisoner exchange. what did she say? >> i raised this very prospect with her, and she answered carefully but directly, that she wanted to see the biden administration do whatever was necessary. take a listen. >> to be honest with you, i don't really listen to much of the talk about the how and measures of what is necessary to get her home. but if that is what is necessary, then yes, do it. i want to be able to say yes to what they want because i want my wife back. so, i am hopeful because our government is telling she is a priority. so i am very hopeful that whatever their ask is, that our government loves my wife as much as i do. that they are willing to say yes because at the end of the day, no russian is worth more than bg to me. >> keep in mind, anderson, that

viktor bout is a convicted criminal. but he is also served a lot of a sentence. the argument that a lot of people make is that while he is a high valued prisoner for putin, he's also someone who is nearing the end of his prison sentence here in the united states. making a swap like this something that ought to be on the table. anderson? >> abby phillip, kaitlan collins, -- just hours ago, a surprise deal was announced in the senate for a bill that was thought to be dead, after a year of negotiations. senator majority leader chuck schumer and west virginia senator manchin reached a deal on energy and health care bill. more from capitol hill, irrational correspondent jessica -- what is this bill? >> that appears to have risen from the dead. what is most surprising about this agreement from chuck schumer and joe manchin is that includes tax provisions and climate provisions. you will remember not too long ago we are talking about that senator manchin saying that he would not be supporting any of those things. so, this agreement that we heard about and reported on

late this afternoon would include a corporate minimum tax at 15%. corporate minimum tax. it would also include climate provisions that aim to reduce garment carbon emissions by 40% by 2030, again things that we did not anticipate seeing in this, and that it would also allow medicare to negotiate drug prices and extend these affordable care act subsidies to americans out there who rely on those to pay for their insurance. but again, anderson, this news into being, we are talking to senators, they were walking on to the senate floor to vote. senate democrats will need all 50 of them to get this through. we are asking them what the reaction was. a lot of them really did not know much of anything about the this deal. there were still getting information. we do know that they will be meeting tomorrow as a group, where they are expected to try to get this all laid out and again, we must underscore that this is a democrat-only bill. they need all 50 senate republicans, and then it has to go to the house, where speaker

pelosi is working with very small vote margin. >> do you know it changed senator manchin's mind? >> at this point, anderson, we know that after he said he unequivocally would not be supporting those climate and tax provisions, that he and schumer restarted their negotiations after july 18th and then came to a deal today. so, this has all been in the last several days that this is all developed. again, it has been something, as we have talked about, negotiated. it is gone from some three and a half trillion dollars build back better all the way down to something that we thought would be even more narrow than what we saw today. and it is worth noting that senator joe manchin has been out of the capitol physically. he's been recovering from covid. so it remains to be seen. of course, we will hear more from him and what changed his mind. but senate democrats hoping for this big boost, as they head into the august recess. of course, a lot of these democrats want to go home and talk about things, as the they campaign for reelection.

>> yeah, just couldn't, fda, coming up another cnn exclusive, an interview with the cnn -- robb elementary uvalde principal who has been placed on administrative leave with pay. her reaction to the criticism of her handling of certain security that day next.

another cnn exclusive now. rosa flores had talked with the principal of robb elementary school, who has been placed on administrative leave with pay. her name is mandy guterres.

and its her first interview since the damning report by the texas legislature that included criticism of school safety. >> when i was calling chief arredondo, i heard three shots. the initial three shots. >> the principal of robb elementary school in uvalde breaking her silence and answering questions about allegations of lax security at the school. >> i believe i did my job to the best of my abilities. >> while enforcement's handling of that ill-fated day has seen the most scrutiny up to now, the families of the victims -- >> y'all do not give a about our children or us! [applause] >> turning their calls for accountability toward the school administration, including the principal who says she was suspended with pay this week, pending a performance review relating to campus security. last school year was her first year as principal.

>> every -- starting at that school, robb elementary -- that principal needs to be gone. all the school board needs to be gone. >> i believe they are entitled to their opinion. i followed the training i was provided with to the best of my abilities. >> the texas house investigative committee report revealed that robb elementary had a culture of noncompliance with safety policies, doors to be kept, locked turned out to be fatal. gutierrez responding to that criticism. was there a culture of noncompliance at robb elementary? >> absolutely not. any time that an alert went out, every single teacher on that campus took it to mean it could be a potential escalating situation. and so, every -- everybody follows protocol. >> you disagree with the findings of the texas house investigative report? >> i disagree. >> according to the texas house investigative report, a coach

that was someone school property saw the gunman jumped this fence to use her radio to reported. report. the principal heard the call and try to initiate a lockdown using a software application. but the wi-fi was bad and she did not use the school intercom. >> it could potentially magnify the situation. >> that's the door the gunman used to enter the school, according to the report. the door was unlocked. had the door been locked, as the policy required, it would've likely slowed down the gunman. instead, surveillance video shows the gunman walked into the building through an unlocked door. why was that door unlocked that day? >> i am not sure. why that door was unlocked. >> so that is normal locked during the day? >> always locked. always, yes. >> and then walked into a classroom. the report also states the principal, teachers, and even many fourth grade students widely knew of the problem with the lock to room 111. but no one placed a work order to repair the law, not the

principal, not anyone else. gutierrez said account. >> but i know for a fact is that the door to room 111 did in fact lock. >> it did? >> the teacher has to use the key to enter. >> so, somehow, the report says that it was likely unlocked. so, somehow, it could have been unlocked on that day? >> it's possible. >> some of the families of the victims say any safety lapses were inexcusable. >> what would you tell her? >> you failed our children. you failed our children. >> i'm very close to my staff. and my students. and many of their families. it is an unimaginable pain to know that we don't have those individuals with us anymore and

that there are families missing their loved ones every single day. >> rosa flores joins us. i've got a response from the school district near the texas house investigative committee about your interview? >> you know, the texas house investigative committee issuing a statement to cnn saying that they stand by the report that it is based on multiple interviews with multiple entities. as for the school district, anderson, they responded to our request. but they said they are too busy right now because they've had too many media requests. >> and as the district attorney have any update on their investigation? >> you know, we got an update from her today. the da says the investigation is ongoing. she says that right now investigators are trying to sink all the videos, surveillance videos, body camera videos, to actual time and that that has not been completed yet. anderson, i asked her about seeking justice and she would actually charge won for some

and. and he replied and said that she will not as a date to indict a law enforcement officer if the law allows. >> all right. or the floors, appreciated. thank you. coming up, on the day the federal reserve announced another major interest rate hike to tackle inflation, carry top gun reports on loan one love american classic that the cheapest it almost was 40 years ago. how will stay the, way ahead. [ engine revving ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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dogs? >> because they are ideologically. if i told you that this hotdog and a soft drink that you can reveal as many times as you want has been i dolefully for almost 40 years, would you believe that? >> i believe that because i've been buying it. >> she is far from the only one. costco says since 1985, it has sold about 1.6 billion hot dogs in those around the world. despite inflation now and in the past, the prices stayed exactly the same for all those years. >> how old are you? >> 29. >> how old are you? >> 36. >>? yeah >> >> these hot dogs with the drink have been $1. 50 for longer than all three of you have been alive. >> we've been going to costco since we were kids with our parents. so that's how we know. >> if the price had kept pace with inflation, by now an 1885, that dollar 50 is offering combo would now cost more than $4. the store alone sold an average of almost 1000 dogs a day in the last week. costco loses quite a lot of

money on our dogs. >> it's the only place i eat a hotdog from. i don't eat hot dogs -- >> anywhere? else >> anywhere else. i don't even buy hot dogs. this is the only place i eat hot dogs. >> the company recognizes the sanctity and symbolism of the when ellen 50 cents price point and now, in this time of high inflation, costco is publicly declaring it has no plans to raise the price of a top dog. >> it's the one thing i can depend on being the same price. >> i think it's great, it's probably the best hot dog of ever had. i don't eat other hot dogs. >> frankly, not increasing the price of their legendary dog looks like a shrewd business move. >> do you think you would do more shopping at costco because you can get hot dogs? and an expensive lunch? >> absolutely. >> it makes you shop at costco more? >> oh, yes, yes. >> the fact they have little hot dog prices? >> yeah. >> first of all, i want to a hotdog now. i want to costco. what i understand it was some discussion about raising the price of the combo at some point. >> right, these executives at costco are very aware would anger their loyal hotdog lovers if they raised the price too

much. we know that firsthand because several years ago there was a very interesting article on business magazine called 4 to 5 business. 4 to 5 is the eastern suburbs seattle area code where cost goes based. it was an interview with the ceo. there's no video of it but i want to read two sentences from. because it's very funny and interesting. >> the ceo is frank jelinek. he was talking about the former ceo and founder jimson occult. what is, i came to him one night and i said, jim, we can't tell this hot dog for a buck 50, we are losing our rear ends. and he said, if you raise the price of the effing hotdog, i will kill you. [laughs] >> and effing, to be honest, is not a euphemism for frankfurter. >> i get. that >> i should tell you, there are other items at costco that say the same for a lot of years. artistry chicken is $4 a nine and since. >> you should be a pitchman. >> i know you are vegetarian, to do we? one because those like big dogs. they look good. >> so, my college career, for

years, i ate more hot dogs and hamburgers and cheesesteaks than i should have eaten. i stopped eating them. but as a reporter, i felt like i had to be the hotdog. it was delicious. >> all, right i'm glad to hear, it gary tuchman, appreciate it. still to come, a special 100th birthday message from some of the funniest moments in u.s. television history. when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling] sorry i'm late! dude, dude, dude... oh boy. your cousin.from boston. [whiff] [water splashes] is it on the green? [goose squawks] i was just looking for my ball. 19th hole, sam adams summer ale. [goose squawks] (here you go.) (cheers guys!)

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finally tonight, we want to wish a happy 100 birthday to a person that has helped shape this country social conscience with some of the most beloved

hilarious sitcoms of all-time, norman layer, who brought us all in the family, the good times, the jefferson's and so many others. he is still working. today, he penned an off head -- op ed for the new york times, it starts, well, i made it. he talked about the career but mostly the current political moment and the current direction of our politics and culture. he then explains how he tries to manage the ups and downs of life, an attitude that he explained to me during an interview last year, just before he turned 99. >> what is your secret? >> if there is a secret, there are two little words that i don't pay enough attention to, over and next. when something is over, it is over? we are on to next. if there was a hammock in the middle, that would be the best way i know of identifying living the expression, living in the moment. i would like to think to live in the moment.