that is it for us, don lemon tonight starts right now. hi, don lemon. i am in bright yellow, lemon, hello. >> you make me laugh the way you say don lemon, every night. >> it is always my intention, i like it -- >> i'm good, you have a good show plan, i came into what you, as always will be of coming up? >> i have a lot of folks coming up. i will speak to folks about mike pompeo, which is a big discussion this evening. it seems that they're already in the inner circle. it is to the highest office in the land and former holder

upset office. >> close, but will there be the cigar? that is how you think about that. we will see. >> thanks, bye. so tomorrow. the january six committee may be on hey it is but not the revelations, not at all. the latest is the former secretary of state mike pompeo, who i alluded to laura about, could sit through a closed door deposition with the committee as soon as this week. there is another one in the inner circle, mike pompeo. that according to multiple sources. why do they want to talk to him of all people? it might have something to do the 25th amendment. >> mr. pompeo reached out to have the conversation. in case you have not heard the discussion amongst cabinet secretaries, from what i understand, it was more of a, this is what i am hearing, how much are you aware of it, but i don't think it is worth putting on your radar because you are the chief of staff. if conversations progress, you

should be ready to take action on this. >> that is the star witness at the hearing so far, now cooperating with the justice department. that was cassidy hutchinson, the woman he saw there. working with the feds, according to the source, would knowledge a discussion of people she has been working with. we don't know exactly what she's telling them, but we know what she called a committee here. >> the president said something to the effect of, i am the effing president, take me to the capitol now. >> now, alyssa farah griffin, ex trump official, you've seen on the show and others. there are other white house officials planning to cooperate with the justice department. in the face of all this, there is josh hawley, who raised his fist at protesters, who later stormed the capitol. the committee will tell you what happened next.

>> as you can see in the photo, he raised his fist in solidarity with the protesters, already amassing at the security gates. we spoke with a capitol police officer who was out there at the time. she told us that the senator hawley's gesture riled up the crowd and bothered her greatly because he was doing it in a safe space, protected by the officers and the barriers. later that day, senator hawley fled after those protesters he helped to rile up stormed the capitol. see for yourself.

>> listen, i hate to disagree with the way that she qualified it, you have, well, he fled but scurried is more like it. is it scary? scurried away for the protesters that he riled up himself. that is according to capitol police officer, ran for his life as the mob closed in. let's not forget that those police officers did not have the option of scurrying away from the capital. they ran towards the danger, he ran away from the danger, after he raised his fist. you think josh hawley regrets any of what he did that day. listen to this exchange with armand raju as cnn. >> the january six committee said that they spoke to capitol police officers that you made that fist pump and riled up the crowd, do you regret that fistbump is that? >> no, i don't regret anything out there on that day. it is a privilege to be attacked by the generous

committee. oh thank you for all the help with my fundraising, that's been tremendous. >> a privilege to be attacked by the january 6 committee. i wonder if the officers felt it was a privilege to be attacked by trump supporting insurrectionists, who he, josh hawley, help to rile up and finance. that says it all right there. the grift is real. it certainly sounds like this is a game for senator hawley. it sounds like he thinks it is an opportunity for a joke. but somehow, as you see him scurrying away there, he did not think it was quite so funny when he was running for his life. cnn's evan perez is here, michael moore, as well, a former attorney in the district of georgia. good evening, could you believe this guy? it is a privilege and honor to be attacked by the generous january 6th committee and helping my fundraising. i can't believe people like

that are even in elected office in this land, it is sad. >> he is a pathetic little man, that all it is. >> yeah guys, go ahead. >> it is inconsequential to the american people. >> it is really awful and deserves to be called out. it deserves every bit of calling out. it is embarrassing. evan, i will start with you, another big name cooperating. the january six committee is engaging with a former secretary of state mike pompeo. we know about that? >> we know that pompeo may be able to sit with the committee in the coming days. of course, the importance of pompeo is that he might be able to shed some light on the conversations that you have heard cassidy hutchinson describe a little bit of, this concern inside the white house that there were members of the cabinet and, perhaps, people in the senate, who would cooperate on invoking the 25th amendment and remove the former president from office in the wake of the riot and the attack on the

capitol and, of course, the way he behaved that whole period. i think you might build a shed light on those questions because it might explain a little bit about why trump recorded that message on january 7th. there was concern and which we reported at the time that he was worried that republicans were done against them, including people in his cabinet. we will see whether pompeo dishes on exactly what was going on in those conversations. >> michael moore, i want to know what you think of the committees interested in conversations surrounding the 25th amendment around cabinet members? one of the committee wants to know more about this? >> it is interesting that they are making the inquiry. what is more interesting is that you have cabinet secretaries who are coming forward and are willing to talk about it, at least negotiated talk about it.

they took the same oath as the president. they all take this oath to support and defend the constitution. if their failure to invoke the 25th amendment, to intervene when they saw a president out of control, to me, they may face some exposure. it is a little bit of an interesting twist. i think they are trying to say that we all knew there was a problem, they wanted a higher ups, we heard they were making the calls, we heard he was calling the shots because that is really the link there are investigating here. they are missing the immediate link between trump and the specific direction to do something. my guess is that they are looking to those folks to say i heard trump say this, i heard him write that, i was in a meeting when he told his people to do this because that has been the link that has been missing. there has been a lot of drama, a lot of flair. we talked about people throwing things against the wall and from the criminal side, so what?

that adds color to it. that add some context, but we need to slow down. i think folks right now are headed to tell folks that they may not be able to shoot -- this is a process. this is an investigation, and we need to hear people to put that piece that is missing into the puzzle. >> if at all, listen, it is a high bar to send a former president to jail. he said shackle shuffle, that is a high bar. we will see if we can get there. certainly, it seems that there are mounting evidence because that is leaning another -- in that direction. >> there is clear evidence that there may be people higher up in the administration. i am thinking about lawyers involved, i'm thinking about the doj officials, who trump was trying to use to send fake letters advising about fake problems with the elections. those are people who we may see as ultimately as yours and --

as loosers in the investigation. it is a high bar to get through a president. again, i don't know if we will get there. i have not seen things that we are steps closer to that. i think this is a normal operation. i was interested to hear garland in his interview saying that he would move forward on people who were criminally responsible for the conduct. that is a different thing then being morally responsible, at the clear responsible, politically responsible, misfeance is one thing, criminalities another. that will be a big hurdle for him to cross, and i can assure you that they are thinking about the implication of moving forward possibly on charges against a former president for conduct that is alleged to have been committed. we saw a committed while he was president. >> listen, anything is possible. you never know. no one is above the law. evan, i would turn out to what is going on with the justice department.

their investigation is inside the trump white house. more about cassidy hutchinson and police cooperating with the doj. what do you know? >> we know that cassidy hutchinson obviously has provided all this testimony to the house committee and that is doing the hearings. the justice department reached out to her, and we know that she is now cooperating. we also know, don, that there are others, besides her, in the white house, who have now moved ahead to cooperate with the justice department. what this does for prosecutors is -- beyond people like marc short and greg jacob, who have now sat before the grand jury, what this does is that it helps build some of what, at least a story that prosecutors can use to get other witnesses, some of what cassidy hutchinson has said on the stand or at the

hearings, was secondhand information. this is what she was told by so-and-so. prosecutors can then go and try to get some of that story as a result of what she testified. she could be a very helpful witness, and so can others, because they saw a lot. they were there for a lot of this stuff. unlike pat cipollone, who is hiding behind privilege, they seem to be more freely able to talk. >> michael, you know that americans got to hear firsthand what's cassidy hutchinson witnessed inside the west wing. some of it was firsthand, some secondhand. they got to witness it when she testified publicly. things like trump wanted to get rid of the magnetometer's at his rally knowing his supporters were armed. watch this. >> his response was to say that they can march to the capital from the ellipse, something to the effect of, take the effing mags away, they are not here to her me. let them in, let my people in, they can mark the capitol after

the rally is over. they can march from the ellipse, take the effing mags away, then they can march to the capital. >> listen, no doubt that was a stunning detail that we learned, but there is a lot that she talked about behind closed doors conversations. she testified publicly. how different you take her testimony will be behind closed doors with the justice department and how serious is this? >> i think her testimony will probably track exactly what she told the committee, and they made delve into other conversations. they may try to delve into other things. she saw that people were -- >> do you think the doj will be better questioners than lawmakers? >> i do, i do, because i think they are talking about this as a political case. good lawyers think about how you lose the case, as opposed to, i'm going to have a presentation here? we basically heard an opening statement from one side of the case. we have not heard anything from the other side. that is how the process is set up. good lawyers of the doj are

going to be thinking, okay, we are going to put this evidence -- what happens if our dependent is ultimately trump or whoever else, how will the lawyers pushback? what holds do we need to make sure our field before we bring the case? i think that is what good lawyers do. that is what they will be doing with their questionning. they want to know before they get too far behind the road where our answers will be. >> michael, thank you, thank you, evan, as well, appreciate it. the doj investigation is clearly heating up, although it is a long way from actually bringing charges there. just how far is merrick garland r willing to go? but the justice department actually charge a former president? will they actually do it? what would that actually mean for the country? veteran, son, dad. -it's time to get up. -no. hair stylist and cheerleader. so adding a “student” title might feel overwhelming.

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legal microscope mr. nixon white? >> well this means we are in a phase of his story we have never seen before. mainly because it was always presidents who are in office. the last time a former administration came under this and his scrutiny was in the 19 twenties and was the result of something called the teapot dome scandal. >> i remember. >> the presidential was dead. it was warren g. harding. it was he was gone, he was already dead. >> i cover that, by the way. >> you did a great job. you when your first pulitzer prize. >> -- ageless. but i mean, since, that we don't investigate former presidents. they are gone. this is the first time we have investigated a former president, and it raises the challenge because this is a former president who would run again. so it's not just investigating a former. it's somebody who is actually still a political player. >> but let's talk about that, david, because focusing on

trump is a far cry from actually bringing charges. i want to play this to give context. this is merrick garland just yesterday in the interview with lester holt. watch this. >> we pursue justice without fear or favor. we intend to hold everyone, anyone who was criminally responsible for events surrounding january six, for any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another, accountable. >> okay, david axelrod, do you actually believe the doj would really take that leap? >> i really don't know, don, because i think that this is such a hard question on the one hand, if you believe in the rule of law, as the attorney general has said, and that no man is above the law, including the president of the united states, and you have incontrovertible evidence, a

clear case beyond reasonable, doubt. what message does that send if you don't bring the case? on the other hand, as tim points out, this would be unprecedented and would be one administration essentially prosecuting a predecessor. it has kind of a latin on they are akin, you know, sort of feel to it. and i think that they will have to away that heavily as they consider this. but the first issue, is can you prove this beyond a reasonable doubt and get a conviction? because if you have any doubt about that, you should not bring this case. >> you think so? you think that if they -- you, know if it's a mess, then it gives them that much power? is that what you are thinking, david, that it makes them stronger? >> you mean if you try him -- >> if you try and do you miss. >> i think it's a terrible, terrible message.

i think, you know, you saw what he did when he was acquitted after his impeachment. and the first impeachment. he was absolutely without remorse or humility, remember senator collins, i think he didn't learn a lesson. he didn't learn any lesson. the lesson was he got away with it. that's -- entire lights experience. so yes, i think that if we were tried and acquitted i think that there would be ramifications of that. i think you are gonna be very careful about it. >> i think that either, way if you don't do it, he will say that into a president have enough evidence. and if you do it any doesn't stick then they will say, -- if they do, temps they don't. and listen, did you want to say something -- david? >> yeah, i want to say that the american people have a say in this. right? >> absolutely. >> the american people can render their verdict and if he decides to run for president again they when do their

verdict and there is growing evidence that people are slowly growing beginning to be impacted by the evidence as it mounts about what the president did and didn't do, relative to january 6th. so in a democracy, the ultimate authority is the people. and it may be that they are the ones who are the ultimate jury for donald trump. >> but, timothy that's what i wanted to say, because you know what happened with ford. forward when he pardoned nixon. everyone says, they go through this, the country is going to be divided. we are already divided. i don't think it matters either way. if they are going to do it, they should just do it. >> i agree. i am one of those who think the timing for this pardon was not in the interest of the united states and american people. i think richard nixon should have been indicted. because i think it was important to put in one place all of the crimes against the american people. >> he should have been -- >> oh, i'm sure of it. >> i think the fact that he

wasn't indicted gave rise to conspiracy thinking about, well, richard nixon's activities. so i actually believe that it is very important for our country not to have political amnesia, not to sweep things under the carpet. i think it's really necessary because we want our children and the grandchildren and great grandchildren to learn that in this country, in the end, the flag on the constitution matter most. and that powerful people can't get away with bad behavior. it's extremely important. look at the cost in this country of sweeping under the carpet. what happened after reconstruction. i don't need to tell you. and i shouldn't have to tell this to most people that are watching. but we paid -- we actually, mainly -- african americans bag, an enormous price in this country, for the political amnesia that we allowed after reconstruction. >> yeah. >> and pretending -- so, i think it's very important that donald trump be held to

the standard of justice that is required and that people learn that violent insurrection is not acceptable and it is not just a a walk in the park up at the capitol hill. >> david, i'll give you the last word. keep in mind though that -- go ahead. >> go ahead, don. >> i was going to say, many of the force that helped to fuel big lie including the president, if you watch you know, donie o'sullivan reports, those people are still with us and they still actually believe none of that stuff happened, at least a say they do. but go on, sorry. >> we had different situation then we did with richard nixon, who resigned the presidency, of course. and tim, you've talked about this, i'm sure, 1 million times. if he had had fox news, if he had had social media, i'm not sure that he would have resigned. and if he had been indicted i am not sure that he would have tried to do what donald trump would, which would be to incite his supporters to believe that this was a political prosecution. so, it's a more complicated

situation than the country and prosecutors faced 45 years ago. >> yeah, thank you tim, thank you david, i appreciate it. senator joe manchin doing a one 80, agreeing to a surprise deal on energy and health care bill with senate majority leader chuck schumer. how far will it go in boosting democrats and president biden? we will discuss.

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>> democratic senator joe manchin and senator majority chuck schumer reaching a deal on an energy and health care bill today after more than a year of negotiations. comes to a surprise. among the items in the bill reducing carbon emissions by 40% by 2030 and allowing medicare to negotiate for prescription drug prices. suspected to face theories opposition from the gop, let's bring in now cedric richmond, senior adviser to the dnc, and former senior adviser to president biden. subject, it has been a minute, good to see you, thank you for joining. >> thanks for having me. >> so, this deal is lesson with biden and minute regionally wanted, but it's still a big deal, especially since a major reversal for senator joe manchin. there is still a ways to go. in the congress as we.

no but will doesn't address the satisfaction people are feeling with this presidency? >> well, i don't know about the dissatisfaction, the so-called dissatisfaction, but i will tell you what's it will address. it will address the rising cost that families are facing every month. so it's going to lower prescription drug costs, it's going to tackle our climate. emergency that is out there. and we are gonna continue to work to make sure that we are addressing the needs of working families. look, these things don't come easy. and that is why it took a long time to get it done, but the president never wavered. kept working. league leader schumer kept working. senator manchin kept working. and we're gonna continue doing those things. i think that this just shows what a dedicated focus president can accomplish when you work at it. >> let's talk about.

it the so-called dissatisfaction. but listen, the still comes less than four months away from the midterms. this is the latest cnn poll and. president biden's approval rating at just 38%, cedric, than a month, democratic voters, 75% say they want the party to nominate someone other than president biden in 2024. the white house is saying that they are not worried about it but come on? as biden would say, come on man! how can you not be worried when you see that? >> because what we are doing is making sure that we don't have 3000 people dying every day of covid. like what was going on in january 20th when we took office. we made sure that we had 18 million jobs, brought unemployment to -- a very low percent. one of the lowest of all times. and i'll be added 500,000 manufacturing jobs. the goal is to keep addressing the problems that americans face. look, when it is time to have a referendum on joe biden, we are

ready for that. but right now, we are doing the things to help american families that are busting their behinds to keep a roof over their heads, clothes on their, back and food on the table. come november, of this, year i think that you will see americans make a choice between one extreme party, and another party that is actually looking to make cooperations, pay their fair share, reduce the deficit, and help families. that is go number one, and for the presidents reelection, he is not running against the almighty. he is against running the alternative. and if you look at this party, the alternative is extreme. and we will have a bunch of things to run on that we have been able to accomplish. two executive order, when congress wouldn't act, or through things like the infrastructure bill. where by the way, we are gonna remove contaminated water from 10 million homes in this country, 400,000 schools and daycares, we are gonna bring -- borough band to rura america, and we are gonna invest and committee violence intervention like no one has ever done, and put the comprehensive model

that empowers people to reach their wildest dreams. i think that is a record we could run on every day of the week. >> you sound like you are so still working at the white house, by the way. i know that you at the dnc now. listen, you mentioned said extremes, some strategist think that democrats can win over midterms swing voters by calling out republicans. calling them extremist. it sounds similar to what biden has been doing in recent weeks. let's listen in to it and we will discuss. >> i don't have to tell you about the ultra maga agenda. attacking families in our freedoms. free hundred discriminatory bills introduced in states across this country. >> i never expected the ultra maga republicans who seemed to control the republican party now to have been able to control the republican party. i never anticipated that to happen. >> under my predecessor, the great maga king, the deficit increased every single year, he

was president, let me tell you about this ultra maga agenda. it's extreme. as most maga things are. >> calling republicans extremists, is that the way to go? >> absolutely! because we have to call it for what it is. and they are extreme. when you start talking about overturning roe v. wade, 50 years, and you start attacking women's reproductive freedom, you start attacking twice, you are attacking voting rights. you are doing all of these things that are so contrary and by the way, they love to talk that they are pro law enforcement and that they love law and order. none of them will call out the president and the lawless acts of january six. and i was in the capitol. it wasn't a tourist visit. it was an insurrection. it was a violent insurrection. and it was done at the behest of president trump. and so, i think that the more that we can call out and show how extreme this party has

shifted, i think it works for us. and the good thing about it, and i think that that is one of president biden's strong points, is that he is telling the truth. and people know he is telling the truth. so when we talk about this extreme republican party led by president former president trump, who is still doesn't realize that he lost the election by almost 8 million votes, i think that people get it. and i think that people realize what direction they want this country to go in. >> listen, i think on the main points, i think most people will agree with you. there are a few republicans, as you, the -- or the liz cheneys of the party. but there are really few in part and farther between, how do you explain that? because they are calling out the president. they are saying no, they did see this as a violent insurrection and that shouldn't happen. >> but they also pay a price for it. the republican party has ostracized them because they are. honest in saying that the president lost the election,

and that the president incited this insurrection. so when we talk about the republican party today, like the president says, it's not your father's republican party. this republican party is extreme, and anybody who tells the truth, who calls out the president, is abandoned and ostracized. >> let's say that president biden had realize that on day. one people have been telling him, this is not your father's republican party. people have been telling him it's not the republican party even when he was in the white house as the vice president of the united states. and now all of a sudden, he realizes that this isn't the party of your father's republican party? that has been happening now for years. and is it all of a sudden instep and has been out of step for the first year of his presidency? >> absolutely not. and i'll tell you, even as extreme as the republican party is, we find ways to work with those people who have the greater good in mind and who will put america first. that is how we passed the infrastructure bill. that's how we are gonna replace lead pipes and crumbling bridges and levees, and protect homes.

and we are gonna continue to do that where we can, with willing partners. and where we can, we will do it by executive order like the george floyd justice and police executive order or the voting rights executive order. or any of the others. and i think that the goal of the presidents, of the united states, not just the democrats, it's a make sure that it's continues to move the ball forward and work with people who is willing to work with him. so we continue to call people extreme, we are gonna work with the people who are willing to do it. >> where has this fire been? you weren't this fire we when you are working at the white house. it's good to see you unleashed at least. [laughs] i know you have been a little bit buttoned up when you're at the white house. but it's good to see. i call it the old cedric richmond that i knew from new orleans. >> don, the fire has always been there. >> all right. >> there needs to be more people with fire like you too. >> but i would just close with don, is that at the end of the day, my children, my child,

will be okay. and for many of us, our children will be okay. but there are children out there that we know, and we will never, know that won't be okay if we don't get this right. and then we owe to keep our heads down and just do the work. that's with the president is doing. and i am out of the white house. now i will have a lot more fire because i go right now is to win the midterms. you can't govern if you can't win in this premature expectation that republicans can win, it's just absolutely wrong. >> cedric richmond, thank you. please come back, i appreciate the candor. thanks. >> we will be right, back. >> anytime!

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around the seguin area in the past 128 years. for priscilla, her family have a small operation of about 20 cattle. >> you brought to cattle and a calf? >> to cousin a calf, yes. >> why do you get rid of them? >> we are trying to reduce the number, trying to reduce how many we are feeding because there is no grass, and the hay we have will not last us through the winter. >> she says her farm is running out a grass the keep to hurt properly fed. >> it is hard. our fields are barren. >> you are trying to save the rest of the herd? >> yes. >> marty schwarzkopf has 170 cattle. he brought one to sell today. he says he also usually says 4 to 6000 bails of hay every year to cattle ranchers, but this year, the ground is so dry, he has only done about 300. >> i feel for a lot of people. they have been doing this a for years and years, and now they don't have anything to hold on to. they're having to look.

>> we with these bails of hay out a couple of days ago, and they are already gone. they are $100 a piece. >> wade is a fourth generation cattle rancher, he says that this ranch field should be covered in lush green get as a foot high. now it is a sea of brown dust, the remaining grass crunches under your feet. we talked under the shade of an oak tree, as he explained that he might have to some more of his cows. >> you get emotional thinking about the possibility? >> yeah, i don't want to do it, you don't want to sell. most of these cattle -- all of these cattle we raised from babies. if we have to get rid of all of them, it is painful. >> this part of texas is usually gets 20 to 24 inches of rain each year, and has received just four inches so far this year.

the pond is supposed to be 7 feet deep, upon that the counseling from is usually seven feet deep. there is not even a drop of water left in it now. >> wade will face tough decision soon. he sought off 20 cows last week, and if it does not rain and cool off soon, he will be back in the auction barn sawing off more of his heard. >> i will sell them before they are skin and bones, i will say -- sell them. if we cannot maintain them, then we will get rid of them. >> don, this is an incredibly emotional time for many cattle ranchers across the country. in fact, at one point, when ranchers were here dropping off their cattle for the auction that happened earlier today, one richer was in tears. we actually talk to him. he said he cannot bring himself to talk about with this moment was like for him, as he was selling off much of his herd. >> it is so awful, and. it is a great report. let's talk about it. i also want to introduce you to clay bertram, he owns a cattle business in nevada tonight.

he's with the national cattleman business meeting. welcome to the program. i appreciate you joining us. we just saw ed's in-depth report on the pressure texas ranchers are under, and you ask oklahomans to pray for rain. how tough are the choices that you are being forced to make the summer? >> thank you, don. it is very tough, considering the lack of rainfall that we have, the shortness of grass, the costs to feed, the cost of hay to provide for animals, and some really tough decisions that we have to make on the farms and ranches today, as being the best stewards of the land, cattle producers, it is very tough. >> obviously, ed, cattle ranchers are struggling right now. what does it mean for consumers at the grocery store? of course, it will affect the price of things.

>> well you -- >> go ahead, ed. >> sorry, i was just going to say quickly, there is a cycle to the way that all of this works. the cattle are supposed to be brought to market much later. if everything is being sold off earlier, that means it will take a while to replenish the herds, which means that about this time next year, we will start seeing from everyone we talk to, a shortage in the amount of cattle come into the market. this means that when you go to the grocery store, the prices for the beef there will be much higher. >> do you want to weigh in on that, clay? >> as cattle producers, we produce the most wholesome, nutritious product that we can. we see the effect on the grocery stores and the amount of supply in there. we are just doing the best we can produce the most wholesome product. >> clay, we want to put some of these photos of your farm that you sent us from this week that shows just how dry the

conditions have gotten there. you have been farming for decades. how have you seen the conditions change? is becoming more common? >> yeah, the past few years, we have seen the onset of drop. these pastures you see in the background should be lush and green. you see the levels upon our low. you see the calves are some of the cows right now. we are going to have to pull these calves off about two months earlier. we have not been able to plant winter wheat. you see the cracks in the ground that we have. we are praying for rain. we just ask the nation to continue to pray for rain for oklahoma and texas and central u.s.. these pastures that you see here are supposed to be cover in hay. we cannot afford the fuel to cut those hay pastures because they might spark a wildfire, as you see in northwest oklahoma in the past few days. >> listen, you can pray for rain but there is a lot that needs to be done. of course, we hope that would work, but they have to do something about this climate change, we ought to do something about climate change. clay, i appreciate you joining us. best of luck to you.

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