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i would make, sure and get those individuals, cuccinelli and chad wolf. i had the department of justice get them before a grand jury. and ask them the question about what was on those zones.

i, mean that specifically, i would ask them, but obviously it's going to take rendered to do that, but i'm compelled by just the motion i see the department of justice. where, the criminal oversight and consequences are much greater than the january six committee. i am bothered, i hope the congressman changed the laws and the consequences of not showing up to congress for a subpoena. because something like stephen, he'll want to go to joe. they would just be a mortar like to gordon. well caitlin, look, you helped break the exclusive about the justice department. so, walk us through what we know. >> so, the justice department investigation has been very busy. the grand jury has been really busy. federal courthouse in d.c. and evan perez and i learned that the justice department is trying, or is getting ready to

engage in the court. fight essentially, with donald trump to try and gain access to information that trump was saying. that he was making around january six to jennifer. the reason this is coming, up is because the two top advisers to the vice president up. they went into this as the january six investigation. it was conducting, and there were certain areas that they couldn't speak about there because at the potential executive privilege claim. so, now, we are looking to see a possible court fight coming. the justice department is preparing to try and go and get that information, so they would continue to get that information. and now down exactly what donald trump said up to and on the 6th of january. >> john, you know, we're also learning tonight that the january six committee shared 20 witnessed interview with doj. how could these help with their

investigation. well, it's hard to know, it even a seems at times that the january six house committee was ahead of the justice department. in terms of their interview. and some of the witnesses i know the justice department is gonna want to interview them. because if they can get a head start, prepared by reviewing transcripts from the house committee, i think that could be very helpful for them. >> so, caitlin, i want to ask you about the january six committee investigation, i understand your information about them. they are focusing on on the former trump cabinet officials. you know who they are looking at the specifically? >> don, they have already spoken to quite a few members of trump's cabinet. the list of names are long. there are already a dumb. john ratcliffe is the director of national intelligence that they are trying to get an interview with now. they're working that out. mike compel, former czech secretary of state, they are trying to talk to. today, they were speaking to mick mulraney. they already spoke to steve mnuchin. there are talks about

chris miller at the defensive department, chad wolf of the d h s, he has been contacted. there is james galina from the labor department. that is a lot of talking people in the cabinet. that is at least a cabinet seats represented it -- that is basically a 3rd of the entirety the presidents cabinet. with the house elect committee is trying to figure out is, were their cabinet members who felt like donald trump was unfit to serve as president after january 6? did they want to invoke the 25th amendment, what happened to those conversations? >> right on, so mark, do you know. as kaitlan just pointed out, that is a lot of folks. you talk to many of these figures as part of the circus. many of them are unlikely to be willing to trash their former boss. what do you think is motivating them to speak to this committee no? >> i think it is moving more towards the department of justice, as i mentioned earlier. the consequences are much greater for perjury, whatever violation there might be. there is really a hard time

consequences. down, let me say, when you net this all up, there is much going on, and there are developments every day, i was shocked by the following things, as a result of the hearings. history will record unequivocally that donald trump lost the election, that trump knew he lost the election, that he tried to illegally overturn the election, and then he encouraged an insurrection at the capitol knowing that there would be weapons. those 4 things will be irrefutable recorded by history. if anybody tries to deny that, of course, at the grand jury hearings, i think they will be in big trouble. >> all the people we mentioned, you know, this green with all the players on, that caitlin talked about, these are not never trump or's. these are part of people who stuck by trump until the very end, even now, and they are speaking to the committee. the committee is trying -- the they are speaking to the dj and or committee, but as you say, there are different consequences, much more serious consequences. don, if i could just interject.

the thing that is compelling about all this too is that all this is not partisan. it is allies of trump and civil servants. >> thank you, all, appreciate it. the january 6 committee wants to talk to trump director of national security, john ratcliffe. with the snow? and what can he tell them? a man who held the job weighs in, that is james clapper, he is here next. choose stamps.com to mail and ship? no more trips to the post office no more paying full price for postage and great rates from usps and ups mail letters ship packages anytime anywhere for less a lot less get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again if you have diabetes, then getting on the dexcom g6 is the single most important thing you can do. it eliminates painful fingersticks,

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with the former director of national telegenic. john ratcliffe. joining the former generational and national security analyst james clapper. thank you director for joining. the committee wants to interview radcliffe. there is interview from catch the test of been saying that he

won the white house they should not get involved in efforts to overturn the election, here it is. >> doc directly felt that it wasn't something that the white house should be pursuing... he felt it was dangerous for the presidents legacy. he had expressed a made that he was concerned that it could spiral out of control and potentially be dangerous, either for our democracy or for the way that things are going on the 6. >> director, why is it so important for the committee to hear directly from him, and what do you think they should ask? >> i think it is quite important that the committee hear from him. what led him to make an expressed a concern, as cassidy hutchison expressed. if he did so, then good on him for that. i have been in a miss fight about why he might be able to cast on the events of

january 6, but whatever led him to come to that conclusion, it may not have been based on any substantive intelligence, just his view as a citizen, as a former member of congress and as a tee and i, what could happen. it may indicate that he did have insight into what was a foot with the assault to be on the capitol. the other thing i would be interested in is if he was pressed by the white house or the president personally to push these false narratives about the assault being led by nfl or a false flag for the fbi, or had some foreign involvement -- the other thing i think the committee might ask him about is if he was involved in or aware of discussions about

potential invoking at the 25th amendment. >> i want to turn now to the president biden's call with his chinese counterpart today. the major issue discussed was that one, would teaching thing tongue biden, quote, if you play with fire, you get burned. the tensions are clearly high here. what can biden do about that? >> i think, first of all, it is always a good thing when the heads of state of a nuclear powers speak. apparently, this is a pretty thorough, lenghty the discussion, 2 hours plus,

something for translation. that is a good thing. my own view is, i wonder about the maturity or lack thereof of chinese foreign policy, where they get this excited and exercised over a potential trip by the speaker of the house. there is precedent for this. it is an old one, but -- went in 1997, and nothing untoward happened. i don't know whether this is a distraction because of challenges that president xi faces domestically, with covid and a swelling economy, or what. but i hope we don't just roll over and are intimidated by such rhetoric. >> let's turn now to russia. there is no word back from russia about the offered to trade a convicted russian arms dealer for brittney griner and paul whelan. it has been 3 weeks. what is putin up too, you think? >> in my view, don, this is the one area where putin has

leverage -- lately, it has been the other way around, with sanctions and all that. here is one area where he knows he has the upperhand, where we are in a supplicant position. he knows how badly we want our people back. he understands the pressure that the president is under. i would forecasts stretching this out. according to what i understand of the soviet -- excuse me, freudian slip, russian judicial process, brittney griner's trial process would have to be finished before there could be a deal struck to release her for there bout, who by the way, i don't think the russians care anything about. this is yet another demonstration, not that we need one, of russia cynicism and duplicity. >> another subject now, the

saudi-backed liv golf tournament begins today at one of the former presidents properties. we got more on this in a few minutes. but this is trump defending hosting the event, watch. >> what do you say to the family members the protested earlier this week and will be doing so again on friday? >> nobody has gotten to the bottom of 9/11, unfortunately. and they should have as to the maniacs that did horrible things to our city, our country and to the world. nobody has really been there. i can tell you that there are a lot of good people out here today, and we will have a lot of fun. >> remarkablel coming from the former president, who would have access to all of the intelligence. >> he had his chance for 4 years to get to the bottom of whatever mystery there is here. i think it is really poor form, for the sake of 9/11 families and others, for him to host an event that is seldom lee

sponsored and sentient by mbs, who has blood on his hands himself. this is condon to people of president trump's hypocrisy and duplicity, because i can recall during the run up to the 26 dean campaign, where he was berating the saudi's for being guilty of the 9/11 attack, et cetera, et cetera. of course, hosting this event is his little way of getting evening with the pga, who suspended golfing events at his golf course, after general 6. >> director, thank you so much, i really appreciate it. so, the director just mentioned 9/11. 9/11 families are furious with a former president for hosting the saudi-backed tournament. is he turning a blind eye to saudi arabia's abysmal human rights

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record? okay, so he says that nobody has gotten to the bottom of 9/11. as a way to excuse the anger and fury of 9/11 families at the former president, who's hosting the saudi back liv golf tournament at his bedminster golf course this weekend. a mother of one victim tells our anderson cooper -- >> nothing surprises me about this man now. what does surprised me is that that professional golfers have been morally compromised in my view to breed. that is what really surprises me. >> let's bring in now, sports writer, ric riley. he is the author of so help me golf,

while we love the game and commander in chief, how golf explains trump. they could be joining us. this is a highly controversial topic here. we see these pictures of trump and his political tournament, the glitz and glam for him. people are accusing him and coffers a turning a blind eye to the actions of saudi arabia. why is he doing this? >> because he loves the attention. he had a tournaments that they go at that club, the pga. he got it taken away after a coup thing that he helped incite. somehow, he thinks the pga tour was to blame for that, even though he's getting the mixed up as the pga of america. this is the pga tour. it is not care. by the way, he lives at the golf course. all of a sudden, the guy who was so upset about 9/11, when he ran in 2016, oh, no one has gotten to the bottom, but the reason he's saying that is because he is in bed with the saudi's. the cities are people that sent 15 under 19 turris were not getting reporting that they may

have financially back some of the terrace. they killed gay people, they killed journalists. they disappear dissenters, and all of a sudden, he is forgetting that because it is called sports washing. it is a great way to take your despotic country, who has a horrible human rights record and wash it through sports. aren't we all great because look how much fun we have played golf? -- >> explain that to us, hold on, hold on -- this concept called sports washing, can you explain what this is? is that what this liv tournament is all about? >> not the tournament, the whole tour. they don't play golf in saudi arabia. there are 14 courses the whole country. none of those are sand. half of them are 9 hole courses. this is about coming to america and showing that we are good guys. look, we play in the pro-am with donald trump and are paying these wild salaries. isn't it fun? it is shotgun starts, and we are only playing 3 rounds, instead of 4. what are they going to say, have jared kushner drives the cart?

i'm going to similar gains? this is not golf. don, if we took the nfl and took half the teams, and decided she said, hey, we pay you each 100 million dollars, does not matter how you do, you get the upfront, and we are going to own you, and you are going to play where we see you will play, wouldn't football fans be upset? that is how it feels to a school fence. >> this one thing, you said this is all about attention for the former president and the pga. doesn't it mean money as well, right? you can add that up. >> not only does he have to swamp -- the southeast don't even know what they are doing. they are paying way too much for prices to, players, different courses. he has another one, the big saudi wrapping at a trump draw. he will be there, like you will be there tomorrow on the range going, hey, dj, playing good but you can't beat this guy. a judge the play is crazy. he drives his golf cart right in the middle the fairway to rallies fans for pausing the

course for this helicopters. it is just a disaster. if you love golf, andy dalton a trump, it is the worst in both towards. >> a nice walk would help him out. listen, the former -- speaking at the money, and it is a lot of money, as he said. former nba player and sports commentator charles barkley also teeing up in bedminster. he met with the liv golf ceo as a possible broadcasting role. barkley currently works under the same parent company at cnn, full transparency here. i want to play something that he said to espn last night. >> everybody is making upwards like sports washing and dirty money. i am like, listen, you play sports, we all take money from some sources, that we might not love or appreciate, but i don't want to be a hypocrite. these guys, they are trying to make a living. i missed nothing but the best. sitting with my friends of the pga tour. but everybody are trying to play the moral card.

>> is he right or is he misinformed? when you think of his answer? >> charles barkley is my favorite athlete i ever covered. funny is, kindness, smartest guy. he turned down liv today. he said he didn't get an offer. that is the dumbest argument i ever heard. he is saying so, don't be morrow? charles, you already make kardashian money. why do you gotta go do this? dustin johnson, phil mickelson -- phil mickelson is making 40 million dollars a year. he lost all his corporate sponsors, and now he signed for 200 million over 3 or 4 years, i guess he's happier. how do you look at yourself in the mirror? i am so disciplined about this. >> okay, i get what you are saying, and he said he's making kardashian money. i don't know, i don't know charles barkley makes. >> a lot. >> but 200 million dollars over the course of 3 years, that's a

lot of money for anyone. you said it was phil mickelson who's gonna get much money? >> torture million, we're not sure if is 3 or 4 years, but dustin johnson got at least 150. players that can hardly crack an egg are cashing in for 50 million. it is crazy, stupid money, like you get in a monopoly game. they are doing it to sportswash their image. whether charles thinks i am making up the word or not, it is happening, and it works. by the way, it is going to work. they are here for good, and the pga tour now, they have too many stars now. they are paying too much money, all these guys are jumping ship. we got to split tours, and the pga tour is going to make a deal with them. i think they won. >> wow, if it's here for good, what athletes say, it's here, we may as well do it. i don't know. >> it's here for good, and is bad for the sport. donald trump wins this one. i hate to say it. he subtly just turned and love societies, because they are playing at his courses, which, by the way, he always says they are the greatest

courses in the world. they are not in the top 200 of the country. he certainly gets his attention out of it. >> you can certainly understand how 9/11 families feel about this. >> breaks my heart. breaks my heart. >> thank you, sir, i appreciate it. deadly floods sweeping through kentucky, killing at least 8 people. the state governor saying it is the worst flooding disaster in his through the challenges, the hurt, the doubt, the pain. no matter what, we go on. biofreeze.

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especially scary is that it devastated a lot of land really fast and the winds are not howling like they would've been, right? >> that is correct. we are in extreme conditions but things can always get worst. >> any ecologist would tell you that a healthy force needs occasional fire to rejuvenate itself but, ever since world war ii, smoky the bear has been preaching fire suppression. across much of california, all this has been loading up over the decades a fire drought, really, just in time for an old-fashioned drop. a 22 year mega drought. this combination makes californians reading everything they know about property values, insurance markets and defensible spaces. >> in the course of my career, i have seen the biggest fire happen year at the year after year. it is impressive. >> no offense, you don't look like a grizzled veteran, but it is not the years, it is the fires these days, i guess,

right? >> fires, i guess. >> to that fact, these fires have been happening within the last 10-15 years. you go back to 2003 and, all of a sudden, something happened. >> i wonder about folks who live in amazing spots like this, a great find in the 70s, when the fire like this was once in a lifetime. now, it is once every couple of years. do you see it changing the psychology of the folks in these wild places? >> it takes a special person come live out here. we just hope that if you do decide to live out here, you learn how to prepare yourself, prepare property, prepare emergency escape plan, create some defensible space. as you see here, this person did a great job clearing out some combustable vegetation from the fire. >> bill weir, cnn, california. >> though we are, thank you craig walsh, who was excellent

reporting at the climate crisis at national geographic. com. we are glad to have you, good evening to you, sir. i want to ask about the flooding in kentucky. the governor called it the worst flooding disaster of his lifetime. hundreds of families losing everything, and the death toll is expected to rise. these historic weather disasters are becoming all too common. >> that is true. if you think about the last month, we have had heat wave in india and pakistan. we have had a heat wave in europe and the uk. we had the heat wave across the u. s., and we had flooding a couple of days ago in missouri that the national weather service says was a one in 1000 event. we had nine inches of rain in st. louis in 24 hours, which is the most ever

recorded. >> i've got to tell you, every night this week, we have covered extreme weather from oppressive heat to fires from missouri to kentucky. we've uncovered what happened with former, special cattle farmers. is all this connected to come crisis? >> it is. our ability to share these events to climate is improving by leaps and bounds. scientists are able to point to climate in many of these events within hours. the reality is that in forest fires, you are seeing more heat, more drought, less rainfall all impact forests. that, combined, is helping fuel more fires. heat waves can affect things in a lot of ways. you could see more fires and in themselves increase the likelihood of flooding. the yellowstone floods, we saw rain coming on top of snow which melted out the snow and caused floods in yellowstone. all of this has a climate component. >> craig, until this week, it looked like democratic senator joe manchin was going to block climate action in what many say could be the last window for us to act without more dire consequences. is there enough

time to avoid the worst? >> absolutely. what ended up coming out this week with the legislations being proposed by manchin and the democrats is the potential step forward. >> if this deal passes, craig, it would put 370 billion dollars in climate programs, including key subsidies and it could slash u.s. emissions by 40% by 2030. how much of an impact with this make? >> that's huge. if you look at where we are heading without those kind of legislations, it is roughly half of that in emissions decline. we are moving more towards electric, electrify in the great with solar, wind, and electric vehicles. the problem is we aren't getting there fast enough. the only way to do that is with some sort of assistance. we need subsidies for consumers, you need subsidies for industries. this bill provides a lot of that. >> policy is usually important in fighting climate crisis. how important is it for us, as a

society, to focus on innovation, in order to get us out of this crisis? >> i mean, innovation is essential for a bunch of reasons. if you think about it, solar has been around for 40 years. it was innovation and a little bit of economic assistance that allowed us to start seeing the kind of growth in solar power. the price of solar has dropped substantially in the last 40 years. some of that has been because we have subsidized solar, but it is because the industry has figured out how to manufacture solar much faster and more efficiently. we also will need to find ways to draw co2 out of the atmosphere, and there are scientists working right now on innovative ways to draw carbon from the atmosphere. even the ipcc said something like that is necessary, but right now, the capacity to do that is way too expensive, and innovation is one step towards getting us there. >> craig welch, thank you, sir,

i appreciated. learned a lot, thank you so much. >> thank you for your time. >> shortages of everything, from cars, smart phones, to washing machines, and all because there weren't enough tiny computer chips. what congress just did may change everything. >> it's 9:00 in the morning at

the cutting edge confuted ships and everything from smartphones airplanes. the house following the senate's lead passing a bill to make tens of billions of dollars to manufacturers and researchers with the goal of reducing the chip shortage and ending u.s. reliance on

overseas chip makers like china. . cnn's miguel marquez looks at what the legislation needs for american businesses. >> it is enormous. global foundry semiconductor chip plant in malta, new york. >> in this fabrication unit, how many chips are being made for how many products? >> we can produce roughly millions of chips a day. >> a day? >> the fab, where the chips are made, about the size of 6 football fields, the process so sensitive, a single human hair could gum up the works, even the light has to be controlled. >> any exposure to ambient light will have a negative impact on our manufacturing. >> the chips go into everything, cars, computers, video games, communications technology, defense industry. >> we are at half a chilean right now, our semiconductor industry. and survive estimates by 2030, we will be a trillion.

the -- >> a trillion? >> it's trillion dollar industry we will double between now and 2030. >> they are investing 52 billion dollars in semi conductor production here at home. 18 states now produce chips and benefit from the funding. global foundry started producing chips here in 2012. new york state kicked in 2 billion dollars to help the producing chips here in 2012. new york state kicked in 2 billion dollars to help the company secure another 13 billion to build a plant, today employing 3000 employees with a median salary, says the company, of 90,000 dollars, at just this one plant, the expected effect of the funding -- >> we expect a double capacity in partnership with the federal government, the state government. >> doubling capacity, adding up to 1000 more jobs, many high paying, all of it a boom to the area. in the last decade, how has the economy here changed? >> it has just grown. >> leaps and bounds, booming? >> it almost seems like a

bubble. >> the dividends are felt like a ripple effect throughout the shops and restaurants and all the taverns. >> some conservatives and progressives argue that government should not be in the business of subsidizing private industry. the industry says that a little bit of public financing goes a long way. >> the proof is in the putting. look at this facility we have, the number of jobs, th taxpayer return, 2, 3, 4, x the state. >> an industry started by america, an industry extension to the tech economy, in industry critical to the nation's defense, and industry that the u.s. would like to dominate again. >> industry executives say it doesn't take much government financing to attract lots of private capital. they point out america's biggest competitors in the semiconductor industry, china, the eu, india, korea, japan. they, collectively, have earmarked about 280 billion dollars already to spur their semiconductor industries. it is very big money, and very heavy competition. don?

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