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he knows. we come for you. coy, thank you so much. >> you've got it. the next hour of "new day" starts right now. le good morning and welcome to your "new day." i'm sara sidner. >> good morning, sara. i'm boris sanchez. this morning 16 people are confirmed dead after devastating flooding hits kentucky. the governor there believes the death toll could double. this morning we're hearing from survivors as the state braces for more rain in the coming days. and the january 6 committee is zeroing in on former president trump's inner circle. the former high-level officials now willing to testify, and how significant those discussions could be in the investigation. plus, we have new details on that proposed prisoner swap to get two americans out of russia. how a convicted murderer could be the key to getting brittney griner and paul whelan home.
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>> i don't want go bankrupt. i don't want to lose my house. i don't want to lose my independence or the little moral value that i have. >> changes people are forced to make as inflation continues to squeeze bunts. good morning and welcome to your "new day." it's saturday, july poth. >> good morning, sara. it's great to be with you, even though we have to start with breaking news. at least 16 people are dead in kentucky including six kids. authorities there are warning the death toll is almost certain to rise.
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>> kentucky governor an dy beshear says it's hard to get a correct number with cellphone service out. flooding wiped out parts of eastern kentucky. rescue efforts have also been slowed by power outages. more than 17,000 homes and businesses remain in the dark this morning. >> animals are without people. people are without homes. we just need help. we need as much help, please, i'm begging anyone who sees this. help my town. help my people. >> to hear that desperate call for help. so many people there do need it. the fast-rising floodwaters forced many people to evacuate, but the storms caught so many people by surprise. it happened in the middle of the night. and this heartbreaking anecdote from knotts county.
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four children died when they climbed onto the roof. neighbors say the parents tried to hold onto the kids, but the young ones were swept away. >> there was a house there and this trailer with this family of six, and it just washed them away. our cnn reporter joins us live from hazard, kentucky. now we can see the devastation now that the sun has risen there. can you given us a sense how bad it is where you are? >> reporter: sure, sara. good morning to you. boris, good morning you do as well. it's catastrophic, sara, simply put. this is the home we talked about in the last hour, swept off its foundation, two miles down the grapevine creek, crashing into the bridge, only coming to a stop because this is a sturdy bridge. the back part almost broke in
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two. it's leaving people to try to cart in water, just cases of water during the daylight hours yesterday, even though as the sheriff of hazard and perry county was saying yesterday, the water infrastructure, guys, up and down the roading is simply obliterated. we want to go to our tower camera showing you the elevated pictures of the foundations. you can see seven or eight white lines of the concrete strips showing you where the home was swept, so ferociously off through the floodwaters. it pushed this home 200 yards downstream. guys, three point wes want to get to, as you mentioned, the death toll is standing at 16. governor beshear said yesterday it's possible -- there are possibilities that they're hoping to avoid, that the death
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toll could expand by two. there are still hospital workers who are missing. finally, guys, this will be the best weather day of the next 72 hours until conditions certainly deteriorate monday into tuesday. the fear is that this could happen again, that more floodwaters could encroach here in hazard. guys, let's send it back to you. >> mike valerio live in hazard, kentucky. thank you. let's bring in the emergency director which includes hazard where we saw mike. jerry, it's great to have you this morning. it's unfortunate it's under these circumstances. i'm wondering how are folks in your area holding up? >> well, it's really tough right now. we're just taking it minute by minute, dhour by hour, day by day. >> i understand that there are still a lot of folks that are missing and it's hard to get a
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clear number on just how many. walk us through that difficult process. i understand the landscape, weather conditions is making it difficult for you. >> yes, it's extremely difficult. one of the issues is, you know, you've got communities that don't have fle communication there. it's hard to receive reports from areas where there's no communications. and we're just now getting into some of those communities. we've been cut off. hopefully when we get in there, things don't turn worse. >> sir, have you heard from representatives with the federal government in terms of getting assistance to where it needs to go? have you had any conversations like that so far? >> yeah, we're beginning --
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really, right now, we're so focused just on search and rescue. you know, we still have missing people, so that's where we're solely focused. i have had conversations of what that process is going to look like. so hopefully by the time we get through the initial search and rescue stage and get into recovery, i would expect that we would have assistance from the federal level, i'm sure. >> jerry, i can tell that this is emotional for you. we've heard a lot of painful stories from the awful things some folks have experienced, and i'm just wondering if you could, help our viewers understand what perry county's like. >> it's hard to -- i'm sorry.
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it's hard to put into words the amount of devastation that we've seen. you know, you're talking about some really, really good people here in eastern kentucky, you know, who don't have a whole lot, and a lot of them have lost everything. it's tough to watch, you know, friends and neighbors go through this. but, you know, we'll get through it. >> and what's your message, sir, to folks around the country that might be watching, wondering how they can help? >> yes. if you can donate, that would be great. there's a foundation.
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appalachian kentucky is a great organization that directly gets money into the hands of people who need it. if you could donate, that would be outstanding. you know, it's just -- we're going to go at this every day and do everything that we can to help our people recover. >> we want the make sure we put that link online and get it to folks so they can lend a helping hand. jerry stacy, we appreciate you taking time to chat with us. we know you have a difficult journey ahead. we want to keep the lines of communication open. please let us know if there's a message we need to get out there to the world. jerry, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> of course. we want to turn over to cnn meteorologist allison chinchar now. she's live for us in the cnn weather center. allison, it sounds like there's immediate relief for these communities, but later on in the
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week there's more rain. >> yes. the problem is it's short term. by short term, i mean today, and that's pretty much about it. here's the radar. you see eastern kentucky, dry, for the remainder of today. you have rain elsewhere across southern missouri, moving into portions of tennessee and other southeastern states, but that system is going to lift. we're going to see more rain return to areas of kentucky in the next 24 to 48 hours. now, you still have flood warnings, and the confusing part is, you say, well, it's not raining. why do they have flood warnings? >> that's basically for the rivers, the creeks, and the streams because it takes time for those waters to recede. it doesn't recede as quickly as on roadways or in homes. notice here it's still cresting at this moment. it's yet to come back down. we expectation it to do so later on today, finally allowing that water to begin to recede, and that will really improve a lot of the cleanup conditions, be
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able to get to the spots they have yet been able to go to. it goes to show you these things take time. you need several dry days to allow the water go back not simply just 24 hours this. is a look at the flood threat for today. again, more of the focus is out in the western u.s. and in the south. this system in the west is going to push a surge of that moisture back into the same spots that had the flooding earlier this week, and that includes not only eastern kentucky, but also the greater st. louis area. both of these regions are expected to see rain return, most likely tonight into tomorrow, and it's likely to continue, sara and boris, as we go into monday and tuesday of next week as well. >> alilison chinchar, thank you so much for that. now as to the january 6th h hearing, we're hearing of text
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messages leaked. they were aware of the missing texts in may 2021. more than a year before he informed the january 6 select committee. it doesn't stop there. cnn has also learned that texts leading up to the january 6th incident are also missing from trump's acting homeland security chief, chad wolf and his top deputy, ken cuccinelli. now they're preparing for a legal fight as it looks to compel several members of trump's inner circle to testify about the former president's actions and the conversations surrounding january 6th. joining me now is a defense prosecuting attorney shan wu. shan, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> let's talk about the court battle by the dojle they're preparing to deal with the executive privilege. what is the chance they can win
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that battle? >> i think it's a very good chance they will win that battle. the president is on their side starting with the landmark case of nixon's preceding back in wate watergate. they say it's going to fail as to a particularized need in a criminal case, and that's what the criminal need would be facing them here. i think also the issue on executive privilege is really -- it's really a question of delay. that's the big problem for the justice department. i think garland is uniquely suited to lead the department on a legal battle. it's going to take time. the other size side is going to try too run out the clock go, district court, court of appeals, and supreme court. i think doj should win in the supreme court, but it's not going to be quite the slam-dunk it was during the nixon era either.
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>> can i ask you about timing? you said the wheels of justice tend to turn pretty slowly, and we're getting closer and closer to the big 2024 election. how much of this plays a role? people always say politics shouldn't play a role in this, but this is political. how much of this timing plays a role in how they move forward and how quickly they move forward? >> well, i think the big issue i've been worried about and a lot of former doj people have been worried about, it's really commendable that the attorney general is worried about looking at their partisan. but the problem here as others have said, the failure to take steps will end up having a terrible political effect as well. from a pragmatic standpoint, one issue is if the house turns over -- if the republicans are in the majority then, they can try to put up a lot of impediments through hearings and other types of obstruction with the doj's work. i think ultimately the doj can
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proceed forward. i don't think garland can be influenced by that, but they certainly can put up a lot of roadblocks if they take control. >> i'm curious what you think about something that mr. garland said about this investigation, that he was asked about whether or not he was investigating former president trump himself and, of course, those surrounding him, and he didn't say the normal line that you often hear, which is we can't discuss any kind of investigation that we're in the middle of. he said something to the effect of no one is above the law. was that a mistake? because people read that to be that he was in the midst of this investigation into president donald trump's, you know, activities before and after january 6th. >> that's a great point. i think it's really important to distinguish between the fact that we now have reporting that there's questions about trump's behavior, which i wasn't expecting. that was a no-brainer to ask those questions. to distinguish between that
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versus garland saying they're actively investigating trump himself, those are enormously different scenarios. i think garland is trying to be a little more transparent. he feels there's a lot of public need to know. i personally when i was doing his communications, say, we're not talking about it or be specific and say, of course, we're looking at his conduct, but we're not deciding whether to open an investigation on him because the investigative department doesn't usually investigate people. they investigate crimes. i think that's what he's trying to say. i think we can certainly read into this that the department has zbbegun to wake up. that's the good news. the bad news is i think they slept in a little bit. >> shan wu, always great to talk to you. >> good to see you. still ahead this hour, a cnn exclusive. russia requests adding a
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convicted murderer as part of a potential prisoner swap to free americans brittney griner and paul whelan. we have the latest on high-stakes negotiations. >> plus president biden's agenda getting revived on capitol hill. will his legislative wins give the democrats a boost heading into the midterms? and you'd better check your lottery tickets. someone may have woken up a lottery winner. we have the latest and where thinings stand now. purchases on youour discover card. dad, when is the future? um, oh wow. um, the future is, uh, what's ahead of us. i don't get it. yeah. maybe this will help. so now we're in the present. and now... we're in the future. the all-electric chevy bolt euv
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griner and paul whelan. senior white house correspondent joins us live now. natasha, what more do we know about this new request by russia. >> yeah, sara. sources are telling me and my colleague fred pleitgen after the proposal made earlier this month the russians made a surprising counter. they said they wanted this former fsb colonel to be included in that prisoner swap. now, there are a number of problems with this, the first being that he's currently in german custody and he was actually sentenced to life in prisonen in december of 2021 for murdering a former chechen soldier that the russian government had deemed to be a terrorist, so the germans obviously accused the kremlin of having a very direct hand in that assassination. the u.s. government did make some quiet inquiries, we're learning, to the german grft to see if they might include him in
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the trade. but so far the german government has not taken on the bait. they said they're not interested in releasing him earlier and have not seriously considered this proposal because this was such a massive case in germany and caused such a huge rupture between germany and russia. now we're learning the u.s. officials who received the request never thought it was serious. they did not think it was a serious offer by the russians, seriously engaging with the proposal the u.s. put forward because of, frankly, how unrealistic it was. take a listen to what the spokesperson john kirby told cnn's jim sciutto last night about this. >> holding two american citizens hostage in exchange for an assassin in a third-party country is not a serious counteroffer, jim. it's a bad-faith attempt to
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avoid a very serious offer and proposal that the u.s. has put forward. we urge russia to take that offer seriously. >> so what we're told is this is how u.s. officials are per perceiving this quote, unquote offer by the russians. it's an attempt to stall and avoid putting forth this plan until brittney griner is over when they'll potentially have more leverage in a prisoner swap. >> natasha in your conversations with the white house and administration, how would you describe the sense of urgency they have to bring brittney griner and paul whelan home? >> it is really all-consuming. they're under so much pressure to bring these go americans back on u.s. soil, which is underscored by the fact they reached out to the german government, u.s. officials did, to see whether they would be willing to include him in the
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swap, probably knowing it would not go anywhere, probably knowing that the russians were putting this out to to stall and buy time. but, still, the u.s. government released this information earlier this week saying that they had made this offer to the russians precisely because they wanted the american people to know that they're doing everything possible to bring griner and whelan home. >> natasha bertrand, thank you so much for your reporting. president biden's agenda getting a boost in a flurry of activity ahead of the august recession especially when this summer it looked like it had stalled. here are some of the most recent wins. the passage of the c.h.i.p.s. act to boost the production of semi-conduct irs. the climate change and tax package reached by senator joe manchin and majority leader chuck schumer, and the passage late yesterday of an assault-style weapons ban in the house. >> cnn congressional reporter daniella diaz joins us with
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more. daniella, the president got an unexpected boost between senator joe manchin and majority leader chuck schumer. i think a lot of people were surprised this finally went through. how significant is it? >> some people were so surprised including senators, they didn't know they had negotiated -- started negotiations on a climate package. this is so, so significant, sara, because, of course, this was the goal of the administration to have some sort of climate bill in congress. this is a party bill that could pass party lines. it only needs democratic support. it includes $369 billion in energy and climate change, making it the biggest deal if passed. it would slash greenhouse gas emissions by 40% by 2030. so a uj hu, huge achievement. a lot of climate activists really praising this deal. it also includes health care
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p pp prov provisions. it would allow med carry to negotiate prescriptions and administer a corporate tax on corporations. a lot of democrats praising this deal between schumer and manchin. manchin needed to get behind the deal. all democrats were needed to get it over the finish line. we don't know where kyrsten sinema stands on it, but a major achievement for democrats who were hoping this deal could come together and they're hoping to pass it before the august recess. boris, sara? >> it caught a lot of senators off guard. there were burn pits they had previously voted for. dan daniella, how much is expected to get done by the august recess? >> that legislation was expected to pass this past week. now it's going to be set for a vote on monday. expect it to pass with huge
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bipartisan support. they're trying to get the huge deal passed before the august recess. and then also they passed a u.s. semi-conductor production legislation that we expect president joe biden to sign very, very soon. so lots of achievements that democrats are praising and are a boost to president biden's agenda. >> daniella diaz, thank you so much. california families looking to save money are moving away from the coast, but that new influx is creating problems in their new communities. we'll explain just minutes away. oh, don't worry. bebecome an agent of innovatin with invesco qqq (vo) at viking, we are proud to have been named the worlrld's number one for boh rivers and oceans by travel and leisure, as well as condé nast traveler. but it is now time for us to work even harder,
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governor has declared a disaster. almost 5,000 cases in 47 states. new york has the most. meanwhile cases are increasing across the globe with more than 22,000 reported globally. the united states still with the most cases of any country. [ chanting ] the final patient remaining in the hospital after the robb elementary massacre that killed 19 children and two teachers has finally been released. 10-year-old miya zamora walks down a hospital hallway. you see her walking outside. she's being handed roses. she handed roses to nurses and other staff as she left the hospital. in a tweet, she is our hero, and we cannot wait to see all she accomplishes in the future.
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miya was hospitalized for 67 days. so one of the states seeing the cost of living skyrocketing is california. that's for some who live on the coast to move inland to save money. >> but between inflation and an influx of new people, prices are skyrocketing. cnn's natasha chen takes a look at the impact it's having on longtime residents. >> i was not expecting this, you know. >> reporter: an unexpected car accident, an unexpected loss of her full-time job just before an unexpected rise in food and gas prices have all created an entirely different life thannen what anna duran was used to. she's now turning in cash. >> you can clearly hear natasha but we're having technical difficulties. we'll try to fix that for you. we'll move on to weather and drought conditions. it's prompting new england to
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>> reporter: an unexpected car accident, an unexpected loss of her full-time job just after an unexpected rise in food and gas prices have created an entirely different life than what anna duran was used to. she now turns in recycling for cash and works part-time as a resident caretaker for a senior citizen complex, but that barely pays her bills. those are just some of the fixed costs. she lives in riverside county where the metro area's annual inflation rate in jeune was like will around 10%, higher than the national average. that's because people moved to relatively i more affordable inland empire during the pandemic, driving up the demand for goods and services. >> folks in the empire can't shift and say, well, i guess i'll be able to work from home a
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little more in response to higher gas prices. they're the types of workers who generally have to commute to their workplaces. >> reporter: duran has to drive to her care taking job. filling up was $94. and groceries? >> i don't buy anymore. i eat tuna. >> reporter: she had to take out of her 401(k) to cover her debt and sell jewelry. >> i don't want to go bankrupt. i don't want to lose my house. i don't want to lose my independent or the little morale or spirit i have to make my own payments. >> reporter: but it's hard to keep up good spirits when she has to rely on weekly charity. >> normally i tend to get here in 20 minutes to 7:00 so this way i can be in line. >> reporter: duran is not the only one trying new things to make ends meet.
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the ceo knows that high prices may affect donors' ability to give over the next year, so the organization has moved up the start of its gleaning project. >> today we're picking beets, onions, carrots. >> reporter: to pick produce from local farms and neighbors' backyards. >> gleaning dust provide relief for the organization and recipients that do depend on receiving access to produce. >> reporter: shoppers are also finding new ways to get deals in the grocery store. this woman is a brand ambassador for flash flood, a program that announces flash sales with produce reaching a sell-by date. she shows how much she saves. >> mangos, an apple, and all of this fruit was $5. >> it will reduce food waste. so i'm able to help with the climate, which is wonderful, as well as save money. >> reporter: for now she has to drive an hour to nearby
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supermarkets where the flash sales are available, but they're aggressively trying to reach more parts of california. while she's happy to drive her hybrid car, duran has to stay close to riverside because of fuel costs. she's inquiring about jobs that don't require a long commute and still allow her to look after her 82-year-old mother at home. >> i have to be strong fuf for my mom, my girls, and the person that i take care of. >> our thanks to natasha chen for filing that report. right now around 14 million americans are under heat alerts today due to dangerous hot temperatures this weekend, but in the new england region, there's another major concern this morning. severe drought. most of massachusetts is suffering from moderate to severe drought conditions with more than 100 cities in the state currently under mandatory water restrictions like the town of pembroke where water levels are so low firefighters aren't
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even allowed to use fire hydrants and have to call in for backup if they run out of water for their trucks. joining me now is the town's manager. william, this sounds dire, the situation you are in, and you have called it scary. have things ever been this bad before? >> not -- certainly not for a very, very long time. in fact, i don't recall iter being this bad. as you said, you know, 93%, 97% of massachusetts is under drought conditions right now. last year we were at 2.5%. drought in massachusetts is relatively uncommon, you know, and it doesn't last a very long time. you know, over the last 20 years or so, we've only had very short periods of drought in a limited time, so it is a little bit scary. >> we're showing a map of the situation. you know, i've spent a lot of time and lived in california where we're sort of used to hearing about drought in
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california, but in massachusetts? this is just, you know, so seemingly unusual. what are the restrictions that people are having to adhere to, and are they adhering to them? >> so in pembroke, we were forced to put a complete water ban on for any outside water use. people are adhering to them. we are recovering, but slowly. and it's not likely that we'll be able to lift that water ban for a bit, probably more than a month perhaps. >> clie tolmatologists have bee talking to us for a very long time about what is going to happen when it comes to climate change. they're calling it a climate emergency as it is. do you believe this extreme drought and weather can be attributed to human-induced climate change? >> i can't say for sure. what i can say for sure is if we look at drought conditions over
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the last 20 years in massachusetts, in 2002 we had a moderate drought. we had 12 years without any drought conditions. in 2012, we had a drought for about a month. in 2016, a drought, again. 2020, again. and now in 2022 again. so if you look at that trend, we went ten years, 12 to 16, four years, 16 to 20 years, and now two years. certainly the amount of drought we're experiencing is increasing. >> yeah. this is exactly what scientists have been warning of. is there anything more that the state officials can do to help towns like yours prepare? >> so the state's been very good. i mean we've been in contact with the massachusetts department of environmental protection. they've offered whatever resources we need, you know, with potential interconnects and other resources if we get to absolute, absolute dire straits. we're in a scary situation, but
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we're not in dire straits. we still have water within our srjs system, but if residents return to where they were at, we won't be able to maintain the water supply. our water supply won't be able to keep up with demand. that's the key. people in new england are not used to droughts. when things get warm, we had several days with heat indexes above 100 degrees, and people use water. they're filling pools for the children. they're filling pools, you know, watering gardens that typically would have rain and would not have to be watered. so it is -- i understand their frustration. they're not used to it. it's kind of atlanta with a snowstorm. they're just not used to it. when they're asked to stay off the roads during a strong storm in order to be safe, they get frustrated. the residents are frustrated, but they're complying. i want to thank them. it's allowing the system to recover. >> thank you so much.
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i'm sorry the citizens are going through this. climatologists have been warning this might not just be massachusetts. it could be across the country at some point. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. a quick programming note to share with you. cnn's original series "pategonia: life on the edge of the world" continues further south at the edge of antarctica where leopards and seals have found a save hechen in remote southern fee fjords. >> reporter: flying against the wind, they're running out of juice. if the whale doesn't surface soon, they'll have to give up. ♪
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♪ good morning this saturday, july 30th. welcome to your "new day." i'm boris sanchez. >> and i'm sara sidner. >> sara, great to be with you, as always. we begin this morning in kentucky. the scene of catastrophic flooding where at least 16 people are dead, including six children. and authorities warn the death toll is almost certain to rise. >> kentucky governor andy beshear says because cell service is out in many areas, it's hard to assess the exact number of the miss organize deceased. rushing waters ripped homes off their foundations and wiped out roads across parts of easter
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