good morning. it's saturday, july 30th. i'm sara sidner. >> and i'm boris sanchez. do not adjust your screen, that is the sara sidner, joining us this weekend in "the cnn newsroom." sara, a pleasure to be with you. >> thanks, boris. >> of course. the scene of devastating flooding, 16 people are dead including six kids and

authorities warn the death toll is certain to rise. >> kentucky governor andy beshear says it's hard to assess the exact number of missing or deceased. rushing waters wiped out roads across eastern kentucky, forcing a whole lot of people to evacuate. the storms caught many people by surprise because it happened in the middle of the night. >> listener to this heartbreaking story out of knots county. four kids are dead because they and their parents were forced to climb to the roof of their home to escape rising floodwater. neighbors say the parents tried to hold onto the little ones but the children were swept away. >> it's hard to put into words the amount of devastation that we've seen. you know, you're talking about some really, really good people here in eastern kentucky.

don't have a whole lot. and a lot of them have lost everything they've got. >> cnn's joe johns joins us live from hazard, kentucky. joe, you showed us the devastation earlier today. how are things at this hour? >> reporter: i've got to tell you, we're seeing a search and rescue mission that continues and is expected to continue possibly for weeks, as the search and rescue personnel, including a lot of volunteers, go into all the nooks and crannies, the hollers, along the streams all over eastern kentucky, trying to find out how many people may have been killed, how many people are injured, how many people need to be evacuated over to the shelters. as far as property damage goes, it really just runs the spectrum.

and it's fascinating, because you have hundreds of people who have lost their homes and then you have structures that have gotten major damage but are still standing. a good example here, this general store has been here 50 years. it's still standing, even though the waters came through and did a huge amount of damage. you can see in the distance there, basically took off the floor. and what looks like the inventory of an antiques store, now down on the bank and not much useful to the people who own it. over to the right we see what's left of a house that was essentially demolished as the water came through. if you look right through the tree here, you can see what appears to be a window on a wall. and then to the left of that, what we're looking at appears to be the floor of a house. and what we do know is that just

up the bank here, probably 75 yards, there was a house. a woman lived there. and it was simply taken off of its foundation and pushed down the creek. back to you. >> it's just one of those examples, it's not the wind, it is always the water that does the most damage. joe johns, thank you for that great report. we want to bring in clay and mackenzie nichols now. their home was damaged in the flooding and they are nearby in a car. clay and mackenzie, i know you were having an issue hearing me earlier, i just want to make sure we're loud and clear. how are you doing this morning? >> yes, we can hear you. for the situation, you know, we're doing the best we can. first off i want to say our thoughts and prayers are with our family, our friends, and our community. this is an absolute devastating, completely -- just a devastating

event. we're in a car. there's trees been cut off our house currently. i hope everybody can hear us loud and clear. >> we can. tell us about your community and what you experienced, what you went through when you realized you might have been in danger. >> so, you know, thursday morning when this happened, we woke up to a terribly loud banging sound on what we thought was someone knocking at door. the mountain behind our house had slid off, and it was rocks and boulders crashing into the house. so we got out of there quickly. then we began, you know, there was no cellphone reception, so we had to find family. we waded through creek water to get to people.

it was just a tragic day. all of our family so far has been accounted for. but we have neighbors who have not yet been accounted for. after we get off of here today, we're going to join in the cleanup efforts in the community and we're going to go from there. >> i'm sorry to hear about your neighbors, clay. i'm glad that you were able to make sure all of your family was well. i understand you had to wade through chest-deep water to check in on your grandfather. >> yes. >> how is he doing now? >> you know, physically, emotionally, he's done fine. his house has been pretty wiped out by the flood damage and the rocks and the mud. but his spirits are good. my grandmother's spirits are good. she was not home during the event.

and she's back home now. you know, material things can come and go, but, you know, human life cannot. and we're just blessed that we still have him. >> absolutely. and clay, for folks that don't know neon, kentucky, tell me what it's like there. >> if you think of mayberry with andy griffith, it's a close-knit community. everybody, whether they're family or not, is like family. in an event like this, typically if one or two people get devastated, everybody joins in to help. and in this situation, everyone is devastated, everyone has been demolished by this. so we haven't seen that banding together because everybody's still trying to dig out of their own house. but i'm sure that will come in the next few days. you know, this community was

flooded like this in 1957 and since then there's been multiple floods but nothing of this magnitude. so i'm looking forward to joining in with the cleanup efforts later today and throughout the rest of the week. and, you know, this is tough, but we will get through this. these people are potters, mountain people have a lot of heart. >> and i'm sure resources will pour in from across the nation to help folks in kentucky. i am wondering, there are more storms in the forecast for the coming days. you mentioned you hadn't seen rain like that. >> yes. >> ever. are you concerned about these next round of storms? what can be done to try to prevent more damage from happening? >> absolutely. you know, everything needs to stay vigilant and aware.

you know, a lot of people don't have electricity let alone tv access. so it's hard for people to see this broadcast, the weather channel's broadcast. but, you know, staying vigilant is key right now, because the ground is so saturated. we had 12 inches, approximately, of rain fall in like an eight to ten-hour period. and i haven't got to look this up yet, but i would imagine that's sort of record for this area. and the createks, it can't hold that amount of water in that short of time, there's nowhere for it to drain. so we're all hoping and praying that we can avoid more excess rainfall at this time, because what happened on thursday could easily happen again. >> and i'm hoping that it shakes out in the best way possible for you. we're glad to hear that your family members are okay. our hearts go out to your neighbors that are still

missing. clay and mackenzie nickles, please let us know if there's more we can do to get a message out there to help you guys. >> thank you all. >> thank you. >> we really appreciate it. >> clay and mackenzie, thank you again. as we noted, there are more storms in the forecast for communities in kentucky that have already been devastated by flash flooding. >> cnn meteorologist allison chinchar joins us live. allison, authorities are calling this a thousand-year flood. explain what that means. >> you would think it would be something simple, but it's not. we had not one but two "one in a thousand-year floods" this week. earlier in the week, in the st. louis area. and then in portions of eastern kentucky later in the week. when you hear that phrase, "one

in a thousand year flood," the odds of having that kind of flood are 0.1% in any given year. take a deck of cards, 52 standard deck of cards that you would have. the odds of having a 100-year flood is about 26%. that's the same odds of you grabbing a heart from the deck, okay? any heart, 2 of hearts, 10 of hearts, jack of hearts, doesn't matter. when we talk about a one in 500-year flood, that's the same statistical odds of grabbing two hearts from the deck. when we talk about what we had in kentucky and sat. louis, you're talking about a one in a thousand-year flood. that's the same as grabbing a red ace out of a deck of cards. extremely hard to do, if that's

the first card you pick up. it goes to show how rare are these one in a thousand-year events. they're becoming more common because of climate change. when you have a warmer atmosphere, that atmosphere can hold more moisture, so as these systems come through they're able to dump a tremendous amount of moisture in a small, contained area. that's what we saw with this particular event. unfortunately, as we talked about, sara and boris, we have more rain in the forecast in the coming days. today the driest of the next three days but then you really see that surge sunday and monday. >> allison, you are doing college level statistics at 10:00 a.m., and we appreciate it. thank you. >> you're welcome, thanks. now to the january 6th investigation. cnn has learned exclusive new details about those missing secret service text messages sought by the select committee. according to multiple sources, the inspector general for homeland security knew about the missing messages months earlier than previously believed. >> and that revelation is adding

to the pressure on inspector general joseph cuffari. cnn foreign correspondent whitney wild has the details. >> reporter: boris, sara, congressional oversight committees said the inspector general was aware of missing text messages as of september 2021 but sources tell cnn the secret service notified cuffari's office of the missing texts seven months earlier. the secret service explained the text messages were lost in a previously scheduled data migration of agents' cellphones. the committee and cuffari are very interested in these text messages because they could shed light on the secret service's response to january 6th and what they may have observed. they say that the problem is the agents didn't know the texts were completely gone and they

tried to go back to the cellphone provider to retrieve the messages but they couldn't do it. in july of 2021, investigators with the inspector general's office told the department of homeland security they were no longer seeking these text messages. cuffari's office then appeared to restart that probe into the text messages in december of 2021. these new details show just how many people realized this information was gone in the months following the riot and further, they go to show if they were gone in may of 2021, it's going to be so much more difficult now, more than a year later, to try to get that information back, meaning what could be important information could very well be lost for good, boris, sara. >> whitney wild, thank you so much. the cdc now says that there are more than 5,000 confirmed cases of monkeypox in the united states. this as experts are warning the window to stop the spread is running out. we'll talk to an expert after a quick break. plus the drought in the west

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>> there are several things health agencies need to do. they need to make sure people know where they can access vaccines and testing and for clinicians to understand the system, to know how do i get people tested, how do i look for what this virus looks like. the other thing we have to do is work on getting all of these services better -- make them better available. so we need more testing, we need more access to vaccines. and we really do have to work on this messaging. i think the window is, as we said before, it's really closing, and closing fast. so we must do everything we can to get ahead of it. >> you said an infection anywhere could be an infection everywhere. but the majority of the w.h.o. expert committee on monkeypox voted against declaring a global health emergency. does that send a mixed signal to the public? you have some of the local places where cases are going up,

saying it's an emergency, but you don't have global health authorities saying the same. >> i think the meeting was a very important meeting. i'm a member of that committee. and there was very, very careful consideration of the data. and the vote actually was very, very close. and the director general made the right decision to declare a public health emergency. i think it's very normal to have debate and different considerations among scientists. and so the decision was made based on the very strong recommendations from those who believed that monkeypox did you constitute a public health emergency of international concern. >> i want to talk to you about testing because i could be wrong, but it seems like some of the same mistakes that were made when it came to the coronavirus, the novel coronavirus, as it was before we figured it was covid-19 or named it, now we're having similar issues with testing and with vaccines, with

monkeypox. are we in a bad scenario again here, have we learned anything from covid? >> we've certainly learned a lot from covid. and we do have a lot more understanding of what needs to happen when we have a situation like an outbreak epidemic or pandemic. but the problem is we haven't invested in the research infrastructure, the testing infrastructure, the public health infrastructure in general to be able to move quickly. and until we do that, we'll constantly be chasing behind. it takes quite a bit to be able to stand up all of these services, to get tests that are going to be accurate in place, to get that information in place. unless we start investing in this significantly, not piecemeal, we're always going to be chasing behind it. >> amber, i do want to talk to you about stigma, because this is factually something that has been affecting men who have sex

with men, at least that's who's getting tested, it seems like, more than anything else. is there a stigma where people don't think it can't happen to them or they can't get it, and we're seeing the stigma play out, and there may be more cases than we know of? >> sara, there are certainly more cases than we know of, for a variety of reasons. the first reason of course is the lack of testing. and so testing is really now aimed at sex who have sex with men. the second reason is that the people may feel stigmatized trying to access this testing. they may just feel like, i don't want to share who my sexual partners are, i don't want to share what my lifestyle is. there's still quite a bit of stigma out there. people may just decide, i'm not going to get tested because that might define me as something i don't want to define myself as. but it's really important to remember that this virus can affect anybody. right now it is spreading and spreading efficiently through the social and sexual networks of men who have sex with men but

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three years of unprecedented drowse in california. plus pandemic setbacks and soaring prices have forced farmers to make some difficult decisions just to stay afloat. joining us is one of them, the ceo and president of a farm. i want to share with our viewers a portion of an op-ed for "the l.a. times" that you wrote earlier this week where you said, quote, drought is a silent disaster. most consumers never see this but they witness the fallout from it. the empty spaces on their supermarket shelves and the higher prices at the checkout stand. so joe, share with us what these last few years have been like for you and your family's farm.

>> this drought has been very severe. and i think this year is the worst. you know, farmers in california are lucky to have hot, dry weather. that's what our crops love. but they've got to have water and we've got to irrigate them. but the past two years we haven't had enough water. so we've had to leave land unplanted. we've had to even destroy crops. >> joe, the last few months, california has tried to deal with the demand for water by essentially restricting water supply. what harm has that caused farmers? >> well, when you restrict water supplies to the farms, that means we plant less. we've had restrictions of our water supplies for years now. a lot of people don't know that, but we've been dealing with this for quite a long time. it's just now that people are

being asked to cut back on their water use. and it affects them. but it's going to affect them in their food supply because we can't plant enough crops here in california. >> what have state and local and even federal lawmakers done to try to help the situation? have you tried to communicate with them about the problems? >> we have. you know, they basically tell us to conserve more water. they tell people to conserve water. but they really haven't done much in terms of trying to do something about our water supply. and that means to try to create more storage so we can save more water during the very wet years like 2017 and '18 were very wet, so he could have water for the dry years. that's the way the system works in california. but we haven't updated this

system in 50 years and our state has doubled in population in the last 50 years. >> and you mentioned the problems that consumers are going to confront not only because of inflation and supply chain issues but now because of the weather and the difficulties that you're having with crops. what is it going to look like a few years down the road for consumers if this isn't solved? >> california produces most of the fruits, vegetables, and nuts in the country. and so this drought is affecting those crops. and it's going to affect those products at your grocery store. >> you have a platform right now, joe, where lawmakers may be watching this, people around the country may be learning that this is as serious an issue as you're presenting it. what's your message to folks at home? >> my message to you is that what happens in california is important to you because it affects your supply of fresh

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pieces of the chinese rocket that launched into space this week are expected to land somewhere on earth in the next few days. the 23-ton rocket delivered a module to its space station on monday. now it's in an uncontrolled descent and it's not clear exactly where it's going to land or when. let's bring in former astronaut terry virtz to shed some light on this. terry, this doesn't sound great, to say the least. how much risk is there, dealing with this debris coming down to earth? >> there's definitely risk. the odds of it landing on someone's head or someone's house are low. the chinese space station stays between 41 degrees north and 41 degrees south which is where basically everybody on earth lives. it's new york city, it's tokyo, australia, all human population are basically in that range.

also there is a lot of ocean there. the rocket is coming down uncontrolled because the chinese just don't have a system. it's a very irresponsible way they launched this rocket, to just let it randomly fall down. it's a big rocket, a 22-ton massive piece of hardware that's coming back to earth and they expect a third of it will hit the ground. in fact in 2020, the same rocket actually landed in the ivory coast and damaged some property. so it's not out of the realm of possibility. it's unlikely but it's definitely -- the odds are higher than winning that lottery. >> much higher, i think. this is the third time since 2020 that china has been accused of not properly handling space debris. why does this keep happening? >> well, it's their way of doing things. they're certainly not going to be told anything by the west. and it would cost money. you would have to build a rocket propulsion system that would target its landing point. that's what america does. we have lots of satellites and space objects that are

intentionally targeted in the pacific ocean, a place called point nemo, thousands of miles from everything. there's lots rockets that land in that area. china has decided not to do it. it's not only china, russia just did a very, very irresponsible and dangerous military test where they used an antisatellite weapon, exploded a satellite. that debris flew at the international space station where their own cosmonauts had to shelter from it. so it's not just random acts of space debris coming back to earth, it's also these irresponsible military testimonials. i had to maneuver the space station from a chinese military test that put debris in orbit that has been there for decades already. >> that's terrifying. russia says it will pull out of the iss after 2024. there's been decades of collaboration with nasa. what does this mean for the space program and for nasa itself? >> well, i think we have to take that with little of a grain of

salt. collaborating with russia was a highlight of my career at nasa, during some pretty tense times on earth, i was there when they annexed crimea. what's happening in ukraine is way beyond anything that's acceptable. it kind of feels like working with germans in 1941. when they say they're going to pull out of the iss, they say a lot of things. normally when a russian government official is speaking, you can assume that he's not telling the truth or what he says is not going to happen. so i've heard some words from some colleagues that it may not be as quick as they say. it's my view that we should probably start the process of disengagement now just because of their actions in ukraine. they're killing civilians today, and that's not necessarily the partner you want to have in space. >> thank you so much for joining us. i know you've taken some of the pictures, beautiful pictures, more pictures than anyone else has been able to take of the earth from space. i appreciate your time, terry. >> it was awesome, thanks for

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we're continuing to follow the devastation out of kentucky where at least 25 people including six children have died because of extensive massive flooding. the floodwaters washing out bridges, causing power outages

and sending residents scrambling to their rooftops. right now rescue efforts are still under way to reach difficult to access areas, so it is difficult to get a full scope of the damage. joining us now to discuss is the governor of kentucky, andy beshear. governor, we're grateful that you could spend some time with us this morning. what's the biggest challenge you are facing right now? >> there are so many challenges with a natural disaster of this magnitude. we've got folks in these areas that have seen flooding, have even seen a lot of flooding, but never anything else. houses, gone. and not one wall, not one bit left. and the debris, probably at this point miles away. at least 25 people lost, 25 kentuckians, children of god. and i know there will be many more. cellphone service still not up in some counties.

so think about how many scared family members there are across america trying to reach their loved ones. the water is still high in some counties. it's crested in most. but not all. water systems overwhelmed. so either no water or water that's not safe, that you have to boil. think about restrooms out in entire counties. we have one hospital that doesn't have water. so, real challenges out there. and we're still in this thing. even though it's stopped raining, and thank god it's stopped raining, we're still in search and rescue mode. national guard has made 660 air rescues. and that's our national guard, tennessee's and west virginia's, my goodness, thank you to them. more than 600 water rescues out there and they'll be continuing

today. while we're devastated at what's happened, we're really grateful to everybody out there finding people and bringing them to safety. >> we're incredibly grateful for their outstanding work. any time there's a natural disaster, their brave work saves lives and inspires communities. governor, you mentioned the death toll is at 25. as you noted, it went up overnight. i'm wondering how much worse you think it's going to get in the coming days. >> it's going to get worse. and i think that we will be updating it, maybe even for weeks to come. we don't lose this many people in a flood, yet there are still so many people unaccounted for. and in this area, it's going to be a hard task to get a firm number of folks unaccounted for. we have phone numbers for kentuckians to call to report missing loved ones. we're going to get out especially while it's dry today and find as many people as we can. our challenge is, sunday it's

going to start raining again. while we don't think it will be historic rain, it will be hard. later in this week it will get really, really hot. we have a lot of people without electricity. we're moving as fast as we can. sadly, but i guess fortunately, we learned a lot of lessons in western kentucky on those devastating tornadoes about seven months ago. so we are providing as much support as we can. we're moving fast from all over the state to help out. >> governor, i was actually on the ground in mayfield after that ef-4 tornado hit and i remember how emotional it was for you personally to talk to the families of those who lost loved ones. i'm wondering what your message is now to folks in kentucky who have to pick up the pieces. >> we love you, and we'll be there for you, not just today and tomorrow, we'll be there for you next year. we'll move heaven and earth to try to repair the damage, to repair your lives, to rebuild.

and we know you love where you live and we're going to be right there with you. let me give you a real special story, though. you're talking about mayfield. the fire chief in mayfield jumped in an ambulance, because they knew they would need extra, and drove to eastern kentucky yesterday. the chief, his message, and the mayor, was the world was there for us when we needed them, we're going to be there for the people of eastern kentucky. that's pretty special. >> that is incredibly special. governor andy beshear, we thank you for the time. we know you've got a busy period ahead of you. please let us know what we can do to help to get any message out there you may need and lend a helping hand. >> thank you. people can help by donating to the team eastern kentucky flood relief fund. thank you to your network for putting it out there. >> we'll make sure it's on our website. governor andy beshear, thank you again. >> thank you. thank everyone who's been

watching this morning, we appreciate you making us part of your weekend. >> our coverage continues right now with fredericka whitfield. hello, everyone, thank you so much for joining me this saturday, i'm fredericka whitfield. we begin this hour with the rising death toll after that catastrophic flooding in eastern kentucky, you just heard the governor right there reiterate, 25 people have been killed including four children who were all siblings. but many people remain missing at this hour. you heard the governor say they continue to be in search and rescue mode. right now, rescues and recovery efforts are under way full throttle, days after torrential rains burst river banks. towns are inundated. and they were cut off from resources as roads and bridges were washed away. rescue a