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comcast business internet customers. so boost your bottom line by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities. good morning. welcome to your "new day." i'm boris sanchez. >> i'm sara sidner. catastrophic flash floods ripped through parts of eastern kentucky and leave some communities unrecognizable. now, some of the most devastated areas could get hit again as a new flood watch goes into effect. >> and president biden tests positive for covid again. what we know about his symptoms and how rebound cases work. we're going to talk to an expert. >> plus, new york declares a public health emergency over the monkeypox outbreak. what officials are doing to control the spread as cases rise
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across the country. >> and democrats in a race against the recess, trying to pass president biden's key agenda items with the midterm elections looming. how much can congress get done? we're grateful that you are starting your week with us, bright and early this sunday, july 31st. good morning, sarah. >> good morning to you, boris. >> great to be with you. we begin today with an update to the ongoing weather emergency in kentucky. the death toll there continues to rise as search and rescue crews make their way through flooded areas and we are expecting yet another round of heavy rain and flash flooding today. >> at least 25 people are confirmed dead. it is still hard to get the exact number of missing with one local mayor calling the death
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toll only the tip of the ic iceberg. complicating the response, rushing waters washed away roads and destroyed bridges making search and rescue efforts all the more difficult. >> i'm worried we're going to be finding bodies for weeks to come. keep praying. hope there are no more we ought to expect. there will be more loss. and pray for the families that we know have already lost individuals. they're going to need your help and your support and i know who we are as people, we're going to be there for them. >> governor andy beshear there. those in their homes are facing the task of cleaning up. what a mess. thousands of customers in these rural areas are still without power. and water treatment facilities have been knocked offline. >> the main problem is, you know, the infrastructure, water infrastructure system has gone down. i mean, it washed away, the
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plant has broken down. we have no water. we don't have any water coming out of our plant to go to any house in perry county, and we're all relying on bottled water and it is being just -- whoever can bring us bottled water, that's what we're distributing to 25 to 29,000 residents. >> in the midst of so much destruction, we are hearing stories of amazing rescues and neighbors coming together to help each other. a group of men apparently heard a family had been trapped in their home in whitesburg, kentucky. you see how high the water is there. you can make out a person in the distance. the water had gotten so high, the family inside couldn't get out safely and the only way in was to break a window. inside this home were 98-year-old may amber gary, her son and brother. you see there, the condition her home was in. they got trapped when several feet of water rushed in. >> cnn's evan mcmorris santoro reports for us.
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>> reporter: the floodwaters here have receded. that doesn't mean the tragedy is over. crews here in jackson, staging from this parking lot of a shopping center, went out all day finding people, trying to resupply people who might be trapped and recovering bodies that were killed in these historic floods. there is still a lot of work to do and the county here, people here where i am, are wondering what the impact of this historic flood will be and what the future might hold. >> thinking about all the devastation that i've seen, all over the county, there is some things that can't be rebuilt. these people that -- their water got in homes that had never been concerned with water issues. now their homes are gone. where are all these people going to go? where are they going to live? if they don't have a family member that they can go to. >> reporter: now it will be a long time before this place is
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anything like recovery. and before it can do that, it is going to need a lot of help. and that help is coming and we're working out of places like this, but it is going to keep coming to deal with just the scale of this tragedy. boris and sara? >> joining me now, someone who is helping, gary hanner with the cajun navy. where are you right now? >> right now we're in hazard, kentucky. >> okay. so you're in hazard. i see you have a furry friend there with you. tell me a little bit about -- >> yes. >> go ahead. what's his name or her name? >> the dog's name is noah. >> noah. what is noah there for? >> yeah. noah is a cadaver dog. and they have them here to help with the search for the missing people. >> tell me what you're doing. the cajun navy is famous for showing up and doing the job of trying to help people, rescue
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people, and even trying to find missing loved ones, even you've got a cadaver dog there with you. tell me what you're doing and how difficult this has been and what you're seeing out there. >> well, we work with the united cajun navy and it is just total devastation. floods are just, you know, the water is so powerful. it can just basically destroy anything. we have been out there, at this point, it turned into just looking for missing people, so you get a phone call from someone saying that they can't get a hold of so and so, so we have to go out there and try to find that person. so, yeah, it is, you know, been pretty much nonstop with that. now they're looking at more rain coming. >> they're looking at more rain coming. there are, you know, warnings in effect. and we're looking at these pictures out of jackson, kentucky. it is just water everywhere, all the way up to the tops of roofs.
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we're seeing basketball, you know, hoops that are almost under water. the devastation is just so widespread, tell me how you go about finding places, because there are no addresses, you know, what we're looking at is just water and, you know, homes in water. what are you seeing? how are you finding people and have you found anyone who has been missing? >> yes. we did locate one person and they were just fine. it is just -- we're seeing a little bit of everything. thank goodness we have had some cell service, so we do get gps coordinates and we're able to put that in our phones and try to go to an address, but what might happen is you start out in the water in the air boat and you're going down a road, literally where you went down a street sign, you know, it might be water halfway up the sign, but and then you go down and you just keep trying to find the addresses and then that road might then go, you know, out of
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the water and then back in the water. so, yeah, it is definitely a lot of -- it is chaos at times, just trying to, you know, maneuver through the trees, the downed power lines, the power lines are probably the most dangerous thing that we have to avoid. >> gary you were also doing one thing that is really important. water is an issue for people. there is no power. often cell phone towers are out. can you tell me, are you bringing people stuff as well when you're going along? >> we are. we're -- we got water always with us and we always have a few meals with us too, somebody just needs something, something to eat, and, but, yeah, we try to carry some blankets and different things if we need to -- if somebody is wet and cold. we try to get them warmed up and stuff. we carry some supplies with us on the air boat. today we'll be taking water and different supplies to people through
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throughout the day. >> gary, thank you so much. you are some of the first responders and i know the first responders appreciate you guys going out there as well. but more so do the people who live there and rely on your help and thank you to your crew out there, and noah, that cute dog that is just taking a little rest right now, we appreciate you. >> yeah. noah is taking a rest, going to have a long day. >> all right. >> let's go to the cnn weather center now and meteorologist allison chinchar. another round of storms in the forecast for the already hard hit areas. >> the last thing this area needs is more water, but unfortunately that's what the forecast shows. not only for today, but the next several days in a row. here is a look at the map. this is the flash flood threat area. you'll notice the town of hazard and much of eastern kentucky is what we refer to as a moderate risk, a level three out of four. national weather service focusing in on the potential for flooding there, saying that this is a, quote, favorable setup for very efficient rainfall.
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they cannot emphasize enough how much rain is potentially going to fall in the next 48 to 72 hours. we have rain right now, focused along northern kentucky and second wave pushing into western kentucky. but that will continue to slide to the east in the coming hours. so we do anticipate more of that rain to start to filter in. here is a look at this afternoon, you can see that's when we start to see the first bands begin to reach eastern kentucky. other cities, nashnashville, memphis, little rock, potential for flooding today because of the amount of rain coming in. this is also concerning. this is the timeline of tuesday. look at the next round of really heavy rain that begins to really focus in on portions of eastern kentucky. overall through tuesday, most of these areas you're talking 1 to 2 inches of additional accumulation. you see some of these yellow spots, that does include eastern kentucky, now you're talking 2 to 4 inches. you also have flood watches in effect for most of kentucky for
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at least the next 24 to 48 hours. >> as you said, allison, the last thing that those folks need. allison chinchar from the weather center, thank you so much. there are a lot of folks in kentucky now that could use a helping hand. and if you're in a position to lend them some help, you can find out just how to do that at cnn.com/impact. now to the white house. where president biden is in isolation again after testing positive for covid-19 again. mr. biden's doctor says the president is likely experiencing what is known as a rebound case. >> hey, folks. joe biden here. tested positive this morning. going to be working from home for next couple of days. feeling fine. everything is good. but commander and i got a little work to do. >> he's got his trusty dog there. >> let's go to cnn white house reporter jasmine wright who joins us live now. jasmine, the president was preparing to spend the weekend
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in delaware. instead he's back in quarantine, at the white house, again. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. certainly not the result that the president or the white house had wanted. remember, that he was released from isolation on wednesday after testing negative tuesday night and wednesday morning. and he resumed all of his events just to be back in isolation yesterday and again today. of course, now, in his letter dr. kevin o'connor when he revealed the test, he said president biden was not experiencing any symptoms like he had last time and he was not reinstating his medical treatment. but part of that initial medical treatment was the president prescribed that paxlovid antiviral treatment, decreasing the possibility of serious illness, but one thing that people found is that they could, again, test positive between a two to eight day window after taking the treatment. that's where the president falls. the doctor says it is likely a rebound case from the paxlovid.
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the white house had previously downplayed the potential for the president to test positive again, saying that it only happens to a small amount of the population, but they did increase the cadence just in case to catch a potential positive. that is exactly what they have done. now, after that positive, just an example of how they were not expecting this, just two hours before the letter was released from dr. kevin o'connor, they announced now travel to michigan. inn st the white house has done the job of trying to show the american people that the president is doing fine, that he's working, releasing videos we saw earlier, tweets announcing facetime calls he's had with supporters as he isolates. and we'll be waiting here at the white house today for any type of update on the president's condition. sara, boris? >> all right, jasmine wright, thank you so much for that report. the spread of a different
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virus, monkeypox, has led officials in new york city to declare a public health emergency, making it the second major u.s. city to do so. the mayor and the city's health commissioner say 150,000 people may be at risk of exposure. >> they say the emergency declaration will boost efforts to stop the spread of the virus. leaders in the united states and across the globe say infection numbers continue to rise and the vaccine supply is falling short of demand. san francisco was the first major u.s. city to declare monkeypox a public health emergency. still ahead this hour, a surprise deal on capitol hill. revives part of president biden's domestic agenda. now democrats are making a full-court press to get big ticket items done before they break for august recess. plus, on the front lines of the california wildfires. cnn is talking to the firefighters risking it all as they face unprecedented and
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it is crunch time in congress with august recess fast approaching. president biden is urging democratic lawmakers to act quickly and pass the surprise agreement on a healthcare and energy spending bill. >> yeah, that surprise agreement coming last week after a breakthrough in negotiations between senator joe manchin and majority leader chuck schumer. it is a compromise that includes major provisions to address climate change, changes to the tax code as well, and breathes new life into president biden's domestic agenda. let's take you to capitol hill now and daniella diaz. the outlying factor here is arizona senator kyrsten sinema. she could be the deciding vote here and she hasn't spoken out how she feels about this new agreement. >> that's right, boris. she told us repeatedly that she
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is trying to look at the text, read it over before she decides where she stands on this legislation, but, of course, she is facing that pressure from her colleagues, her democratic colleagues, to be specific to support that legislation, that would, of course, if passed, be the biggest climate deal in history. now, this is $369 billion for energy and climate change programs. if passed it would slash u.s. greenhouse gas emissions 40% by 2030. huge achievement, cliktmate activists praising this deal, everything from electric vehicle tax credits to environmental justice communities, also it has got healthcare provisions, it would allow medicare to negotiate drug prices, as well as extend subsidies and to pay for this legislation, they would raise this revenue by imposing a 15% minimum tax on corporations. of course, remember, this is just a slimmed down version now of what president joe biden was
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really pushing democrats to pass known as the build back better act. of course, if you remember, last year, last december, joe manchin torpedoed that saying he wouldn't support it, now he's reached this deal with schumer on this legislation that, of course, if congress passes it, if democrats pass it, which they can, along party lines, they do not need any republican support, just all 50 democratic senators to sign on with vice president kamala harris being the tie breaking vote, if they're able to do that, of course, it would be a huge boost to biden's agenda, however, of course, still waiting to see where senator kyrsten sinema stands on this legislation and another problem is they need full quorum with democrats in the senate and there has been covid cases. dick durbin is out sick right now with covid. and in the senate, there is no remote voting like in the house. so, of course, that math being important to democrats as they go into next week. they're all hoping they can have full quorum and pass this legislation before they break
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for august recess. boris, sara? >> daniella diaz, thank you for that. you can hear directly from senator manchin today, he is going to be on "state of the union" at 9:00 a.m. house speaker nancy pelosi is on her way to asia right now. we still don't know if she is going to visit taiwan as originally planned. up next, how the speaker's actions could impact president biden as china is warning against a visit. we'll be right back. r of many ad pet wrangler, too. so becoming a student again might seem impossible. national university is here to support all o of you. national university. supporting the whole you. i don't hydrate like everyoyone else. because i'm not everyone else. they drink what they're told to drink. i drink what helps me rehydrate and recover: pedialyte® sport. they drink what tbecause it works...k. and so do i. ♪ they drink what tbecause it works...k. hydration beyond the hype. ♪
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but the chinese have warned of resolute and serious consequences if pelosi stops in the taiwanese territory. joining us now to discuss is cnn political analyst and "washington post" columnist josh rogan. always appreciate you being up bright and early for us. so, resolute and forceful measures if pelosi lands in taiwan. what does that mean? >> well, boris, nobody knows what that means. it is intentionally vague because the chinese government is threatening a crisis but they're not exactly threatening what that crisis would be. they have a range of options. they could do something provocative dealing with pelosi's plane, carrying a bunch of congressmen, they could punish taiwan by making some sort of military aggression in the direction of that island, or they could have a range of economic and military responses that are pointed either at the united states or taiwan or both. or they could do nothing. or it could be just fine.
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and we'll find out pretty soon. nancy pelosi and her delegation were in hawaii on saturday. they met with military leaders there. then they left, their plane left and they're on their way to asia. within a few hours we'll know whether or not they're headed to so singapore for a first stop or taiwan, if they're headed to singapore, they could be in taiwan in a couple of days. >> so, something interesting about this was that president biden let slip that the u.s. military does not think a visit by pelosi to taiwan is a good idea. that exposure of a rift between the u.s. military and the sitting speaker of the house of representatives, how does that play into all of this? >> right, well, you know, president biden was right in the sense there are some concerns in the military, but the truth of the matter is that the opposition to speaker pelosi's potential trip to taiwan is white house driven and for several weeks there has been an
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effort led by national security adviser jake sullivan, including some military leaders and some other leaders, to convince whether or not to go because they don't want a crisis now because they have their hands full and don't know what the chinese government is going to do. the biden administration is in the process of trying to tamp down tensions in u.s./china relations, not ramp them up. the ironic thing is the chinese government doesn't believe that the president of the united states can't control the speaker of the house. they don't understand. in their system, when the president says to do something, you do it or you die or go to jail. they don't believe us when they say, we have a system where the speaker of the house can go to taiwan whenever she wants, nothing the white house can do to stop it. that's actually the case. so for the biden people, it is the worst case scenario. when the president blurted it out, he confirmed the trip, which is supposed to be secret and it puts pelosi in a corner where she feels like she has to go, now she backs down, everyone will know she backs down.
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>> it is one of the beautiful things about being in a free society, people can come and go as they please. >> i think so. >> of their own volition. the military also believes as has been reported recently that the timeline for some kind of military action by china in taiwan has shortened. there was a belief it was still years away. i've seen some estimates now that has it within the next 18 months. does that coincide with what you're hearing? >> it seems that the chinese government is putting various pieces in place to give themselves the capability to invade taiwan and take over the island by force. it also seems that they're not there yet. i would put it more at three to four years, by the time they have enough landing ships, missiles, and nuclear deterrent to invade taiwan in such a way we wouldn't be able to do anything about it. they're building that capability now. looking at ukraine, they're not going to make the same mistakes that putin made, that means
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overwhelming force. they don't have it quite yet. but president xi jinping has been very clear. he's setting himself up to do that. we care about the safety and security of taiwan and free and democratic societies, we ought to be helping them to prepare for that and ought to be doing that right now. >> i'm glad you mentioned vladimir putin and the situation in ukraine. you have a new op-ed out in "the post" where you describe a bipartisan group of lawmakers in the united states alongside ukrainian leaders that are seeking to install more u.s. military officials in a noncombat capacity in ukraine to help the ukrainians. i guess my thought is doesn't that lead to a degree of mission creep where the united states has to invest more and more to help ukraine win and maintain territory? >> yes. there is no doubt about it. it is a bunch of u.s. lawmakers and president zelenskyy calling for a little bit of mission
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creep, but their rational is pretty clear, we're sending $40 billion worth of aid and weapons into ukraine, we don't know where it is going and it would be helpful both for the oversight mission and also for the ukrainians if we had people in the embassy, for example, working with the ukrainians to figure it all out and watch it and doo logistics and operatio. everything that makes it work better. the war is escalating. winter is coming. when it freezes over, those battle lines will be hard to undo. we have a period of time and by we, i mean the countries that care about helping ukraine save its country, to surge weapons there, and to help them use those weapons to take back as much territory as possible. but that window is closing fast. and, you know, not just russia that is looking at our actions here. it is also china and they are related. and if we let ukraine be carved up and diced up into a country
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that is not really a functioning country, that bodes disaster, both for ukraine and for taiwan and for the free world as it st stands. >> there is a lot going on in the world. josh rogan, thank you for walking us through all of that. >> anytime. >> of course. stay with cnn. we'll be right back. if you used shipgo this whole thing woululdn't be a thing. yeah, dad! i don't want to deal with this. oh, , you brought your luggage to the airport.. that's adorablble. with shipgo shipping your luggage before you fly you'll never have to wait around here again. like ever. that can't be comfortable though. shipgo.com the smart, fast, easy way to travel. new poligrip power hold and seal. clinically proven to give strongest hold, pluseals out 5x more food particles. fear no food. new poligrip por hold and seal. bath fitr doesn't just fit your bath.
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>> and in california, the oak fire has already destroyed nearly 20,000 acres since it ignited near yosemite national park more than a week ago. bill weir had a chance to speak with firefighters on the front lines. >> reporter: it actually started right around here? >> it started at this ridge over here, and in the first 24 hours, this fire grew 10,000 acres. >> reporter: to put that in perspective, that's crazy fast. >> that's crazy fast. >> reporter: the oak fire is the biggest fire in california, because fire season winds haven't really started blowing yet, there are almost 4,000 firefighters here from all corners of the state. they managed to keep flames out of yosemite national park, but not the smoke. and they say they won't fully contain this blaze for weeks. so what makes this oak fire especially scary is it devastated a lot of land very fast and the winds aren't howling like they would be. >> that's correct. >> reporter: for santa anas or diablos, correct?
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>> we're in extreme conditions, but things can always get worse. >> reporter: and any ecologist will tell you a healthy forest needs fire to rejuvenate itself. but since world war ii, smoky the bear has been preaching fire suppression. across much of california, all this fuel has been loading up over the decades, a fire drought really, just in time for the old-fashioned drought. a 22-year megadrought. this combination now making californians rethink everything they know about property values and insurance markets and defensible spaces. >> in the course of my career, i've seen the biggest fire happen year after year after year. it is impressive. >> reporter: no offense, you don't look like a grizzled veteran. it is not the years, it is the fires. >> the fires, yes. >> to that fact, the fires have been happening within the last 10, 15 years. go back to 2003 and all of a sudden something happened. >> reporter: i wonder about folks who live in amazing spots
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like this. a great find in the '70s when a fire like this was once in a lifetime. now it is once every couple of years. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: do you see it changing the psychology of folks in these wild places? >> takes a special person to come live out here and we just hope that if you do decide to live out here, that you learn how to prepare yourself, prepare your property, get -- prepared emergency escape plan and create some defensible space as you see here. this person did a great job at clearing out some combustible vegetation and brush away from his fire. >> these guys will take all the help they can get in doing this job. especially when it is 97 degrees outside here as well. they have got a couple dozen helicopters, over 300 fire engines, a bunch of water tankers in all of that. ultimately it comes down to sometimes how much yard work they have to do around the house that hasn't been properly hardened against fire. and, again, this is just the beginning of the fire season now. the deadliest months are in the
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fall, out west, after a couple more dry hot months. and this is a mutual aid state. you put out my fire, i'll help put out yours, at a certain point they worry there will be too many fires to go around. bill weir, mariposa, california. >> thanks to bill weir for that report. a quick programming note for you, don't miss an all new episode of "united shades of ame america" with w. kamau bell tonight. it is relevant to this. here is a preview. >> they never put out a fire. if there is a fire on the rindg, they let it burn down and go out naturally. it is the only way to manage that much land. >> is there a part of this that you feel like if we had been in charge of this land, this would not have happened. >> this fire absolutely would not have happened if it were cared for by tribal people. and we want to be able to share our knowledge and people are continually asking us, you know, can we do cultural burning?
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as its people had successfully toppled one of the longest standing african dictators through peaceful street protests. >> the question is why? sudan is one of the world's biggest exporters of gold and russia has been illegally exploiting and smuggling this resource from sudan for years. nima al bagr and her team visited there to see how they manipulate the sudanese government and how they get around sanctions to hold on to the gold. >> reporter: deep in sudan's gold country, miners toil in the searing heat, barely surviving in what should be one of africa's richest countries, providing gold for a war a continent away. we investigate a force more powerful than sudan's government, controlling its gold. for many, sudan produced the most sought after gold in the
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world, and putin's private army knows it. sudan's government is denying wagner's existence in country, but we're not buying it and we have come to investigate. wagner's tentacles stretch across africa. we discovered some of its most notorious operatives are working on sudan. the head of wagner, the head of sudan opts and the key enforcer previously convicted of kidnap and robbery, working with this man i sudanese general, in a quid pro quo for training and weaponry. we traveled 200 miles north from the capital to gold country, to take a closer look at wagner's main moneymaker, artisanal gold.
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85% of sudan's gold is produced artisanally. this, right here, it may not look like much, this is what is left after the rocks that the miners have brought in is milled. now, they have taken that they can out of it, but this gets sold. and when it is properly processed, with someone who has superior technology, you can make ten times what those miners over there are making. ten times more money without any of the back breaking work. and the only foreign processing plant operational in sudan is wagner's gold. despite a sudanese law limiting ownership to locals. also troubling, they were sanctioned two years ago by the united states for exploiting sudan's natural resources and spreading their malign influence around the globe.
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according to the sudanese government, they officially ceased operations, but they are still here, still evading sanctions. we verified their location with coordinates provided by sudanese anti-corruption investigators and head there to see for ourselves. as we approach, the red flag of the former soviet union blows in the wind. increasingly used by russian nationalists, it brazenly marks the compound, a russian tanker sits next to it. we get to the entrance and decide to ask a few questions. but not before we turn on our covert cameras. well, that's convenient, they just confirmed the russians are at this location. there is a black pickup approaching. okay. guards just confirmed the russian managers in that black
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pickup and is on his way to us. a russian van races to the office, but no one seems to be coming out. seems the russian manager has changed his mind. but others turn up instead. they claim this plant is sudanese-owned and is called al solag. that's important. we head off the property to do some more filming. but we're followed. security approaches. they want us to stop. this is public ground. this is public ground. why is your van stopping here? trying to get us to move on. they're taking pictures of us, of our license plates. the reason they're so nervous, al solag is a front for the russian company, wagner is still operating illegally. a foreign company pretending to be sudanese to evade u.s. sanctions. we obtained registration documents to prove it.
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the document on the left is from the gold, the one on the right, al solag. these show complaints made, and these from al solag is the same. here you can see the judgments against both companies are iden identical. all they have done is changed the name. wagner, hiding in plane sight to avoid u.s. sanctions and keep the pipeline flowing back to moscow and the war on ukraine. a dangerous business to delve into. since we arrived in country, i've been informed by sources of threats that they believe to be credible against me. they say that's what happens here when you look too closely at russia's business dealings. we're off to meet one of the sources and he asked i come alone.
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>> it is a front for the russians, specifically for the forces of wagner, that are working to exploit gold in sudan and its exports. it is a front, it is not a company. it extracts gold and buys gold from the sudanese miners. that's not legal. because the law says that any gold producer supports the quantity it produces to the central bank and to the ministry of mining and that does not happen. >> reporter: inside sudan's central bank a whistle-blower snapped this photo of a computer screen, showing official production in 2021 at 49.7 tons. 32.7 tons unaccounted for by the central bank. but the real figure we're told by whistle-blowers could be over 220 tons. that's around $13.4 billion worth of gold a year that's being stolen from sudan. how has this happened? three years ago the sudanese people successfully underthrew
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africa's second longest ruling dictator. less than two years later, the military staged its own coup, sweeping aside civilian rule. and they did this, we're told, with wagner's support, in exchange for gold. this man had a front row seat to russia's machinations and has evidence to prove it stood to gain by supporting the sudanese military's coup. under threat of assassination, he's been in hiding for the last nine months, moving from safe house to safe house. >> the russians and sudanese officers saw this as an obstacle to the plan, the anti-corruption task force wasn't caving to pressure or threats or even bribery. the armed forces were thought to be complicit in the smuggling of gold by the russians and raised with them. >> do you blame russia for the death of democracy here in s sudan? >> definitely. >> just days later, his nephew was killed by state actors,
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trying to stop a pro democracy demonstration. in the two weeks we have been in sudan, investigating russia's illegal gold mining, ten people were killed. protesting for change. it is not just on the battlefields of ukraine that russia is spilling blood. here too there is a human cost. the cost of russia's support, of sudan's generals in return for its gold. cnn, khartoum, cnn. >> thanks to nima for that report and her team as well. we should note that cnn reached out to the russian foreign ministry, the russian defense ministry and the parent organization for the group of companies run by that organization for comment. we have yet to receive any response. >> we also reached out to the offices of sudanese military rulers, general boron and
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