that's it for us tonight. don lemon tonight starts right now with of course, don lemon. hate don lemon. >> hey norah, we'll get the break news mediately. i'll see you tomorrow. that this is don lemon tonight adjusting. new details in our huge news that the united states killing one of the world's most wanted terrorist. al-qaeda leader ayman al-zawahiri. with a 25 million dollar reward on his head. osama bin laden's right-hand man. now president joe biden,

addressing the nation from the blue room balcony at the white house where he is in isolation with rebound covid case. the cleric, that justice has been delivered. and warning that the united states will defend the american people. >> no matter how long it takes. no matter where you hide. if you are a threat to our people the united states will find you and take you out. >> we are also learning some more tonight about how it all went down. ayman al-zawahiri, children what was being called a precise tailored airstrike. using to hellfire missiles fired at the balcony of a safe house in kabul. at 9:40 pm eastern time. it happened on saturday. the president thank you kate final trouble for a patient a week ago after months of highly secret planning. one official is telling cnn that members of his family, who are in other areas of the house, were not harmed. he helped mastermind the deadly terror attack on american soil

alongside osama bin laden, when planes crashed into the world trade center, the pentagon, and a field in shanksville pennsylvania. killing 2977 people. remember this picture? this is the situation group. check it out. 11 years ago. there it is. as the raid that killed osama bin laden was unfolding, vice president joe biden was there in the front row seat. and it took 11 years, for now president joe biden says justice has been delivered so straight now to our experts and our correspond with the white house, jeremy diamond cnn international security iraq quashed. and cnn military analyst, retired colonel cedric leighton. good to have your hair gentlemen thank you for joining. us we want to get to you at the white house immediately. incredibly significant day for the united states and the war on terror. here is more from the president tonight in -- >> our intelligence community located ayman al-zawahiri earlier this year. he moved to downtown kabul to

reunite with members of his immediate family. after carefully considering and clearing convincing evidence of his location. i authorize a precision strike that would remove him from the battlefield. once and for all. this mission was carefully planned. leslie minimize the risk of harm to other civilians. and one week ago, after being advised at the conditions that were optimal, i gave the final approval to go get him. and the mission was a success. none of his family members were hurt. and there are no civilian casualties. >> so jeremy, you're getting additional details about the timeline and precision involved in killing of zawahiri. what are you learning? >> we've got some significant details from a senior administration official earlier this evening about the timeline of how this mission was planned. some of the details about the execution of this mission. this is a painstaking process of intelligence gathering and confirming that intelligence. it's a place over months.

and u.s. intelligence officials were told, we learned earlier this year that his family had moved to a safe house in kabul. they later than learned that ayman al-zawahiri, himself, had moved into that safe. house and over the course of several months, u.s. officials were able to solidify that information. white house officials, top national security officials, here at the white house were briefed in april. the president was briefed. very shortly thereafter. then over the course of may, june, july, there were several meetings involving the president as they worked towards this operation that we are told ultimately took place this weekend. now, one of the key factors in this, we are told, was that president biden was asked about is how they can minimize the possibility of civilian casualties when conducting the strike. the senior administration official says, that all zawahiri was killed while he was standing on the balcony of this safe house with two hellfire missiles. but over the course of the last several months, including during a july 1st meeting

inside the situation room, intelligence officials brought in a small scale model of the safe house. they brought it to the president to describe to him, how exactly, they can conduct a strike with a drone and ensure that the building would remain structurally -- that the structural integrity of the building will remain. but the people inside the building, the civilians, including al zawahiri's family would not be killed. and ultimately, that is exactly what u.s. officials say happened here with these two hellfire missiles striking al-zawahiri while he was on this balcony. and u.s. officials say, that there were no civilian casualties in the process. >> formulated i want to bring you and. because the coverage we're gonna begin in the war in ukraine we learned so much about the military capabilities of the united states military. the weapons that they're offering to ukrainians. so, no civilian members of this family were killed in this one. talk to us about how complex an operation like this would be. especially without having boots on the ground in afghanistan. >> well don, that makes it

really incredible hard to do. because we have boots on the ground you've got people who can tell you certain things. everything from the wind direction, on a given day, and with the weather patterns are. like from that perspective as well as what the pattern of life of an individual's. they could be following that individual and finding out what the routines are. if you don't have people on the ground. you can do those kind of things, but it is a lot harder to do them. because you need to rely on technology. you need to rely on satellites. you need to rely on perhaps, instruments that are a little behind by others. and those kind of things, it is a very difficult thing that relies on the architecture of the intelligence system. and the communications architecture that goes along with it. so, it is tough to do, but obviously it is not impossible. >> he talked was more about these hellfire missiles. district about things not to underestimate building, how does that work? >> that requires precise targeting intelligence, don. and what they did with these

how fires was they gave them the coordinates. they gave them the exact location where they needed to be. they decided exactly what's the impact points could be. that means, where they're going to be hitting that particular structure. and as jeremy mentioned, they talk about and talk and very great detail about how they would hit the buildings so it is not to make the building collapse on top of itself. that was critical if you want to avoid civilian casualties. and the fact that we went through that pain staking exercise to do this kind of operation really speaks volumes as to how the united states conducts these kinds of things. luckily, it work this time. sometimes it doesn't work. but the effort is made very much to use precision intelligence to find exactly where things are, exactly where the vulnerable points are, and exactly the place where you need to target. nick, it is good to have you here in new york. it's been a while. since we've been on the set

together. listen, you spent so much time in afghanistan covering it. i've been with you and anchor desk as you actually in the field covering this. what is to say to that ayman al-zawahiri, was in downtown kabul and not some remote area? >> this is starting, but also not that surprising to. we should be very much in the mind of the taliban have suddenly turned into some lofty institution in which now happens to be in the government. this is the taliban who sheltered al-qaeda as they planned 9/11. putting the same individuals back in a very comfortable area of kabul. as you said, this is not some remote area. he's not hiding in some valley. this is the nice part of kabul. where the fancy villas, where i was talking to a former afghan official, he says this house was a matter of doors down from where he used to live. so yes this is certainly, as one person has said, it is possible for the stock occurred without at least a small number of taliban knowing that he was there. inviting him. putting him there. unclear how long he was there, it sounds like a number of months. it is also startling, frankly,

that united states was able to pull this off. we underestimate these things because we're so sued the ad been flow of counterterrorism operations. because they found this man, the most wanted man on earth, in a country, without having any boots on the ground. they had to leave a year ago in something of a mess. yet still, they're able to take him out on a balcony. without knocking on the rest of the house. so however much i think we need to worry about what it meant for the u.s. to no longer be in afghanistan, and what they would lose that ability to gain intelligence in the way that they needed to, this is an extraordinary feat. >> i think it's last public appearance was on july 13th. do you think that he got over the competent? do you think he let his guard down. >> that's what it seems to be the case. here when l.a. saying there was a sign of these messages that he was more relaxed, he was talking about more recent events, perhaps not feeling he had to delay things to hide his whereabouts. this is possibly part of the reason why he was caught in the complacency. possibly two on the side of those who are looking after

him. maybe they thought were the government here now, we can do whatever you like, we can have i guess is we. which maybe they thought perhaps al-qaeda was no longer target. but certainly they clearly. our u.s. never forgot 9/11, and clearly is still pursuing justice. but is a very important moment for afghanistan here too. because remember, the taliban said we don't have foreign fighters in this country, we will not allow al-qaeda to be here. well, you can't get much more close with al-qaeda then. this they hadn't stopped u.s. going after them but i certainly think women people who are trying to bail the taliban might be something to do business with have another thought. >> let's become something that just talked about about not having boots on the ground. it is, you know, one year since the chaotic and withdraw from afghanistan but is this politically? where does this victory mean for the biden administration? >> well i think to the capabilities of their ability to conduct a strike without boots on the. ground this is a validation of something that biden administration officials and the president himself talked about during that withdrawal

from afghanistan last year. you will recall that at the time president biden was announcing that withdrawal he bowed that the united states would still maintain, quote, overturn the horizon capabilities. what are over the horizon capabilities? it is exactly what we saw this past weekend. with the ability to carry out this drone strike. the president, and administration officials had said, that even without boots on the ground they would make sure that they have the capability to go after terrorists and terrorist organizations that can pose a harm to the united states. that is what he was able to accomplish a. now, i think this is another question that was raising, was the knowledge that taliban government officials had about this. the senior administration official we spoke to this evening actually confirmed that senior taliban officials in particular, officials associated with the haqqani network. they were aware of his presence in kabul, in the capital city, and that spells a whole load of questions. not only did this officials say that that was a violation of

the doha agreement that ultimately led to the u.s. withdrawal of troops. meaning the taliban said that they would not allow terrorists. groups to have a safe haven in afghanistan. but it now raises questions about the future, potentially, of u.s. taliban relations. something that is potentially been on the horizon in the long term. now, all of that even more into question with all of these revelations. >> colonel leighton i see you shaking your head. do you want to get in on that? >> i think jeremy said is exactly right. the thing to talk about here, but it comes over the horizon capabilities, don, is the fact that the intelligence picture has to be well and nearly perfect. in order to pull off an operation like this so the overall isn't capabilities are the operational capabilities that we see with these joint strikes. but also the intelligence that goes into making these drone strikes possible. and the very fact that they did this shows that there is a really robust intelligence architecture that is watching over afghanistan at this point to time. >> we've been talking about this more on terror.

what does this mean for the u.s. priorities when it comes to counterterrorism and look at this mean for the world to have someone like al-zawahiri now gone? >> it is obviously a man who had hands in the operations of al-qaeda. they've had a lower profile because, obviously, the attention focused on isis. i think one important point to make is the last major instead we had like this was baghdadi. the isis leader in syria. that is some video special forces pulled off as they were withdrawing from northern syria because of turkey moving in there. that was remarkable feat. this still occurs, u.s. intelligence leaving this a year after the u.s. was pulled out of afghanistan. so clearly, the reach is pretty remarkable. there is not a question i think as to what's next for al-qaeda? who takes his place? there's a man called abdul who the u.s. is said is in iran, neighboring around. the question of course, for around, if they accept that is the case. does he stay there? are they effectively harboring the new leader of al-qaeda? these are urgent questions, certainly, for the region and

certainly to for what the taliban can do to try and reclaim the idea that it is not going to create another haven for al-qaeda. i think frankly that was a slight fiction, the people who heard it that was convenient to justify the u.s. departure from afghanistan, they couldn't publicly say they're just not them go back to what was pre-9/11. but they've got a very difficult moment here. many other reports about that is still being in afghanistan, for the u.s. departure, we have a lot of pushback from u.s. officials saying. it is really so much the case. now we have something quite as public and blatant has also been hearing living in plain sight, as you said earlier, on and one the nicest parts in the safe house. almost certainly with taliban acquiescence. that is very startling for afghanistan. certainly it won't change life on the ground there for people who are struggling to find food, dealing with the collapse of basic services, but it is a remarkable moment, i think for the biden menstruation. they have to deal with frankly the abject humiliation of what happened in august of last year. and still, this is quite startling. >> we're so grateful that you.

here usually on the ground. as i said before, in afghanistan. we're just happy to have you here in new york. thank you so much for joining us. thank you jeremy. thank you colonel as well. we really appreciate. it will continue our coverage now. we've got a lot more to come on the united states drone strike that killed al-qaeda leader, ayman al-zawahiri, near 21 years after 9/11. does this make american safer? that's a question.

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one of the world's most wanted terrorist. taken out by two american hellfire missiles. hitting the balcony of a home right in the middle of kabul. joining me now the former defense, secretary twinkle. and secretary, thank you, i really appreciate you joining us. i should say. ambassador >> good evening don. >> it has been nearly 21 years since 9/11. an attack that changed united states and the world. tell me how significant a moment this is? >> this is a really historic moment. and as you pointed out merely a new generation has grown up since the 9/11 attacks. many of those who were serving in our military today in the intelligence service wasn't even born. that so you got young people coming up who have no sense of history of what took place.

who al-qaeda was, why are we after them, why were they after us. and we had to remind people of what happened during 9/11. show the attack upon them. show the attack on the pentagon. think about flight 93 that the u.s. has called. and i think i remember the father of one of those people who perished and he stood up at the ceremony honoring those sailors. so he said, remember the coal, remember the coal. and this is part of remembering what took place. and why we are still suffering from it. people who are serving today still remember that event and all the events of. followed so it is a very important day for america and for the freedom of people throughout the. world who are under the threat of terror. >> secretary bring a very good point. obviously the most significant was 9/11. and as you mentioned the cold. the cold. there is u.s. embassies in kinsey intends in the who people were indicted for. there was 1981 amar said that.

there have been a number of things that he has been responsible for and. also should be facing or should basic onto his. for now that he's paid open price. my question is, you can respond to that, but are you surprised i hear that al-zawahiri was in downtown kabul? >> somewhat surprised. not really. the taliban is not someone, or a group that you can put any faith and trust in when it comes to holding their agreements. but i want to go back to him, personally, zawahiri. that he carried out mass attacks killing civilians, hundreds and thousands actually here in the united states and what is so striking is the kind of precision and patience and consideration that president biden and our entire intelligence committee emphasized this is what separates us from the terrorist who attacked civilians. it's what separates from, let's

say the russians, who level entire residential buildings. killing hundreds if not thousands without any concern about incidents civilians. and i can tell you from my experience when i was at the pentagon. i would've had regular meetings, almost dating meetings, with president clinton. going over the targets picked out for that day. in -- excuse me for one second. >> picked up for that day. the people took over the targets. lulu over the type of munitions there are being used. with the damage. was with the collateral damage was. because we wanted to minimize the killing of innocent civilians. that is who we are. so we know who al-qaeda is. whoever he re-was. we want the people in this country to know who we are. that is something that we can take a great deal of pride and president biden deserves a lot of credit for the kind of leadership. quite leadership. that he has been emphasizing.

>> why do we listen to what the president said tonight? hair it is. >> we ended our military mission in afghanistan almost a year ago. i made the decision that after 20 years of war the united states and longer needed thousands of boots on the ground in afghanistan. to protect americans from terrorists who seek to do us harm. and made a promise to the american people that we will continue to conduct effective counter-terrorism operations in afghanistan and beyond. we've done just that. >> so secretary cohen, there's a lot of concern after the u.s. pull troops out of afghanistan. and leaving would mean for our counterterrorism abilities. does this answer those questions? or is -- or is there more than u.s. could be doing, if there are troops physically there on the ground? i think there's always better to have troops on the ground. to the extent that you can have them in smaller numbers, if at all possible. but having on the ground presence of intelligence

gathering. i have to suspect that there were someone who was cooperating with our intelligence gathering capabilities. to give the precise indication of what the building was constructed. of where the rooms were? what kind of damage with a hellfire make or cause. if it is pointed at one, just a balcony. you can ask a question, what happens and he was not at the balcony? when we have hit the target anyway? regardless of whether he would've killed his children or his family? so those the kinds of questions. to get back to the questions you has at the close of your previous decade. you said, are we safe? >> the answer is we are safer. but we are not safe. we are never going to be safe from acts of terrorism. it is always going to be with humanity. and it is not in afghanistan, it will be in some other country. and that is that the nature of what we face. historically have faced. and so we have to be, as we say, ever vigilant. and we have an intelligence

capability second to none. we can pick out a license plate from deep space. that can take a person or a target out from a drone. hovering pretty high in the sky. so we have that technology. would be better if we had on the ground capability? obviously. but i think president biden has kept his promise. said we will go after the terrorist wherever they are, wherever we can. and give due consideration to protecting in a sense of violence. >> in the spirit of educating people who may not remember things as you said. and rightfully. so we all remember this. at least those of us who have had uncertainty. who remember the then president, this photo of then president barack obama, and vice president then joe biden and other officials inside the situation room. and clean that secretary of state, hillary clinton and others. ahmed bin laden was killed. what does a strike mean for president biden and his

presidency? >> well it shows what we can do. what our capability is. but our commitment is. in terms of telling the american people and the world that we will not allow terrorism to go unchecked. i remember that speech i gave an received the bodies of those who were killed and the embassies, and our american embassies in east africa. i remember the speech i gave. i said we are going to reach out, wherever you are, with a long arm of justice. we are going to reach out and touch you. and ways that you can't quite imagine today. and it's a long time for that's where reality. but that is a commitment that every president has made and will continue to make. so joe biden, he gets a lot of credit for the patients, for carrying out and keeping that promise. and so now we go forward saying, there's always gonna be someone out there looking to attack us. to undermine our democracy and our credibility for the world. we have to have leaders who

will point at people. and this comes back to something we've been talking about one of the former president wants to come in and clean out the so-called, deep state. you are seeing the deep state inaction. the kind of military intelligence, intelligence gathering capability, the kind of advisers that are sitting in that white house giving the president council. that is the deep. state that is a state that will protect us. not hiring a bunch of incompetence simply because they've been major contributors for campaign and are jasmyn. so joe biden, and the team is put together. it is great. the team we are seeing in that white house situation room, when they went after bin laden, any of them are still with us. they're still within the white house and they're giving advice to the president. so that is a deep state action. >> grown-ups, adults, wisdom, thank you. >> speaking up, you as well secretary. from monaco ambassador, but your secretary. thank you very much. senator dick durbin is here to

talk about the killing of a man of the hurry what it means going forward. plus, what is going on with a secret service in this missing text? we will talk about that too. that is next.

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we are back with more on the huge news tonight. president biden announcing that the u.s. killed al-qaeda leader al-zawahiri in a drone strike over the weekend. joining me, now senator and chair of the judiciary committee, dick durbin senator, thank you so much for joining me on this night. with incredible news. this was an individual who

helped to mastermind the 9/11 attacks, took over al-qaeda, after the u.s. killed osama bin laden, americans in the world are safer tonight with him gone? >> the bottom line is that he is the number two man who was responsible for 9/11. the fact, is -- have been in pursuit of this man ever since. he has eluded all of the efforts until now. this closes an important chapter, and closes down a terrorist chapter. >> it was a year ago this month that president biden withdrew the u.s. from afghanistan. there was chaos, a lot of criticism, and he paid for it in the polls. do you think this will reassure people that president biden is keeping the fight against terror a top priority? >> i certainly think it does, because he has achieved something that others have tried for years to achieve. i was not one of the critics of

withdrawing from afghanistan. -- we had to be very honest about the prospects of finding and resolving in a way comfortably with the united states. i think the president did things the right way, he might have done it a little bit differently, we can always send second guess it. but taking al-zawahiri out, is an indication that the pursuit of terrorists has not stopped. >> i want to talk about the other big international story, how speaker nancy pelosi is expected to take a trip to taiwan. white house officials are warning that if china escalates tensions over this, it will be entirely on beijing. do you believe that this trip is worth it? >> i can tell you, the trip to taiwan's almost routine by members of congress. i've been invited half a dozen times, but have not taken at the invitation. over the years, it was considered a routine visit, and now the chinese have determined

that they will dictate the schedules and visits of members of congress into asia. where do they get off doing that? xi as the right to make this decision, and i think we will make the right decision as to what to do. but to think that he will clear the schedules of those that wish to visit taiwan, do you want to see what they're doing to a tiny country like lithuania. who had the nerve that they would say that they were do business with taiwan. they tried to freeze them out on the world stage. they are bullies, and they're trying to push nancy pelosi around, and i don't think that is going to happen. >> usually, they call these summer doldrums, but we have so much news to get to. another thing i want to talk to you about, the missing secret service text. top house democrats are calling on the dome landed spray -- to recuse himself from this investigation. this comes after cnn's report that showed investigators knew more than a year the texts had been a raised. does he need to recuse himself, do you think? >> i think it is time for the

attorney general to point to u.s. attorney to take over this investigation. this is about the destruction of critical evidence. whether it is material to the january 6th episode or not, the fact that this man, the inspector general, could not get the information that should've been transferred from what's administration to the other, and did not report it properly to congress, or to the agency that he is working in. we may have jeopardize some very critical evidence when it comes to the historic record on january 6th. he treated it as a routine event, rather than something that should've been highlighted. >> i want to ask you about the attorney general merrick garland, or anybody at the doj. have they responded to your request to investigate the missing texts? >> not yet. that doesn't mean that they are not on the case, it just means that they do not respond to every congressional inquiry.

i have a good relationship with the attorney general, and i respect him. he is a lot on his plate at this point. with the january 6th committee, giving them a lot to work with, considering the possibility of future prosecutions. but to think that critical evidence from the secret service and the department of homeland security, relative to this insurrection of the mob on january 6th, magically disappears when the trump group leaves the offices. i mean, that raises a lot of suspicions. i'm not assuming that this is relevant or important evidence, until we know that for sure. but at the very minimum, we should have that evidence to take a close look at. >> let me clarify here. you're not assuming anything, but do you think that the ig was acting in bad faith by not telling house select committee sooner? >> he had a choice, -- the bottom line is that when this critical information is not transferred from one intervene stray shun to another, that is not routine, and he treated it as such.

>> another aspect of this story is the writer that carried a gun to the capitol, and threatens how speaker nancy pelosi, getting sentenced to more than seven years in prison. that's two years longer than any prison term for a capitol rioter. do you think that the sentence is fair? >> i'll tell, you when you bring a firearm into the capitol with that kind of attention, or even near the capitol, there is a price to be paid. we have to send a message out, whether the administration is one party or the other, it has to be relevant. the violence is unacceptable, and he never would've brought that to washington. >> senator, thank you so much, we appreciate you joining us. >> thanks, don. >> next, an officer who is in the presidents for motorcade on january 16th, he tells me what he knows about trump's heated discussion with the security detail. this is his first cnn interview since testifying to the committee. after the break.

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more and more testimony corroborating then president trump wanted to go to the capitol after his rally on january 6th. including testimony from retired easy metropolitan police sergeant, mark robinson. who is in trump's motorcade that day. i wasn't asked by the secret service agent responsible for the motorcade said that trump had a heated discussion with his detail about going to the capital. darius, sergeant mark robinson he's here with me now this is first time speaking out on cnn but first i just have a reminder for you. this is the key testimony to the general six committee. watch this. >> was there any description of what was occurring in the car? we >> know, only that the president was upset. and that he was adamant about

going to the capital. and it was a heated discussion about that. so, at the end of the speech, we do know that while inside the limo. the president was still adamant about going to the capital. that's been relate to me by the tsa agent. and so, we did partly ellipse and we responded back to the white house. however, the motorcade was placed on standby. >> sergeant good evening, thanks for joining. >> good evening don, thank you. >> tell us more about how you learn the ben present was adamant about going to the capital. >> i mean the communication comes directly from the secret service agent and the lead officer in the cart. sir consular concerned about the movements of the president. so you need to know. and the communications coming directly from the agent. >> what was conveyed to you?

how insistent. just how insistent was he about going? >> we've heard it several times while it was on the motorcade. i think during the speech. shortly thereafter when you finish the speech. that the president was going into the motorcade and that he was upset. that he adamantly wanted to go to the capital. even we departed from the ellipse he was repeated again that the president. it was a heated argument in dilemma. and he wanted to definitely go to the capitol. so when we arrived at the white house the motorcade was placed on standby. >> as we say the vernacular now? how did that hit with you guys on that day? >> for me i really didn't know what was actually happening outside the ellipse. i could hear transcriptions from the radio. that large crowds were going up to the capitol. i did know exactly what's happening. so for me, to know that there are armed subjects outside. to know that there are large

crowds respond to. that was alarming because, one, we weren't prepared to deal with that. normally when you move a presidential motorcade you have a cigarette. so we don't have sufficient personnel to do that. so we weren't comfortable with that. >> were you saying what on earth does he want to go back to the capital for? was that when u.s. rethinking. >> i mean, absolutely. now knowing what actually happened that would've been horrible. had the motorcade responded to the capitol i think would've been far worse. >> this is pretty bad. >> far worse, how so do you mean? lives possibly. >> i think it probably encourage the low riding. and they felt supported. if the presidential motorcade came and supported them. so i think the insurrection probably felt as if they had to support the president. >> why did you say? you said that you had been in over 100 motorcades with trump before but never heard anything

like that ever. with those not necessarily 100 motorcades with president trump. i've been in the motorcade since 2011. i've been in several. and general. over 100. >> well as a question? josh you've been in over 100 motorcades and nothing like that had ever happened? >> right. when the president is moving, and my experience, the president's going to a destination we go. and there are some moves that just pop up along the way. and it is always communicating. it is always worked out and we go. i've never experienced a moment with the president wants to go somewhere and there's a heated argument dispute and a debate on whether not the president can go somewhere. and then we actually don't go i've never had that experience before. >> there's been this sort of false narrative about that no one was. armed there is no firearms in the crowd. of people who are out there. you mentioned that you heard

over the radio that people in the crowd had weapons. would a president be removed immediately from a situation where they're individuals with weapons nearby? >> above the secret service was comfortable. meaning that they had a security. they had the protection. that party routes and had security measures in place to keep the president safe. i can hear the police radio that armed subjects are there. i can hear the officers responding to that. and there is video footage to support that. which was weighed on the testimony as well. >> i guess i'm asking you to. let's put it this way. with the experience that you have. why do you think someone would want to go into would appear to be danger on that day? >> i can't imagine anyone, especially in that position, wanted to go to the capitol. we talk about the president. i just can't imagine someone

wanted to go to the capitol under those conditions. >> so despite all that. him one to go to the capital. take us inside the motorcade want to go back to the white house. how is that decision made? >> it is always made to the secret service. and through them. their managers their supervisors. and so they are formed. the lead agent they form the tsa agent who will inform the league card. that would be myself >> so we inform the motorcade whether or not because we have to be prepared about whether not move is gonna be made so we have to prepare for that. to secure route to actually get there and get back. and to keep and protect the safe. >> so the sample you're like, wait, what? seeing that we might possibly go back into danger. i'm just so thankful that it did not. happen and so, i didn't really -- when we made that move i thought you had been insane movement. i think the sentiment was felt

even with secret service. they weren't prepared for that. so i'm just glad that it did not occur. >> the did you feel pressured? over coming forward? were you worried about the threats from sharing what actually happened? the truth about what happened that day? >> no. the truth is the truth. i don't have any pressure about it. whether all simply. whether are still working. i mean we are called upon some time to give testimony. and so my experience is to tell the truth. to tell what actually happened. so i'm not ashamed of that. >> sergeant mark robinson. i'm grateful that your hair. and before they are safe. and thank you for protecting american democracy. and for speaking out. and speaking the truth. we really appreciate it. >> thank you don. >> you'll be well, you be safe. >> at least 37 people are dead and catastrophic flooding in kentucky. and heavy rains are expected tonight. which could make things much much worse for people already in desperate straits. the latest details next.

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