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just in, new details on the united states killing one of the world's most wanted terrorist, al-qaeda leader ayman al-zawahiri, with a 25 million dollar reward on his head. osama bin laden's right-hand man. president joe biden addressing the nation from the blue room on the -- white house declaring justice has been delivered. warning that the united states will defend the american people. >> no matter how long it takes, no matter where you hide, if you are a threat to our people, the united states will find you and take you out. >> we're also learning more tonight about how it all went down. ayman al-zawahiri killed, in what has been called a precise, tailored air strike using two -- missiles fired at the balcony of a safe house in kabul, 9:48

pm eastern time. happened on saturday. president biden gave final approval for a mission a month ago after months of highly secret planning. one -- members of the zawahiri who were in other areas of the house were not harmed. al-zawahiri helped to mastermind the deadliest attack on american soil with osama bin laden when planes crashed into the world trade center and the pentagon, killing 2977 people. remember this picture? this is the situation room. check it out. 11 years ago. there it is. as the raid that killed osama bin laden was unfolding, vice president joe biden was there in the front row seat. i took 11 years, but now, president joe biden says justice have been delivered. straight now to our experts and our correspondent with the white house, jeremy diamond, nick paton walsh, and cnn -- good to have you all here. thanks for joining us. jeremy, we'll get you at the white house immediately. incredibly significant day for the united states in the war on terror. here is more on the president

tonight, and then we'll talk. >> our intelligence located zawahiri earlier this year. he had moved to downtown kabul to reunite with members of his immediate family. after carefully considering the clearly convincing evidence of his location, i authorized a precision strike that would remove him from the battlefield once and for all. this mission was carefully planned, vigorously minimizing the risk of harm to other civilians. one week ago, after we were advised that the conditions were optimal, i gave the final approval to go get him. the mission was a success. none of his family members were hurt. there were no civilian casualties. >> jeremy, you're getting additional details about the timeline and precision involved in killing al-zawahiri. what do you learning? >> don, we got some significant details from a senior administration official earlier

this evening about the timeline of how this mission was planned. some of the details about the execution of this mission. this is a painstaking process of intelligence gathering and confirming that intelligence that took place over months. u.s. intelligence officials were told, learned earlier this month that and al-zawahiri his family moved into a safe house in kabul. they -- and over the course of several months, u.s. officials were able to solidify that information. white house officials, top national security officials here at the white house were briefed in april. the president was briefed very shortly thereafter, and over the course of may, june, and july, there were several meetings involving the president as they worked towards this operation that we are told ultimately took place this weekend. one of the key factors in this, we're told, that president biden was asking about, is how they could minimize the possibility of civilian

casualties when conducting the strike. the senior administration official says that al-zawahiri was killed while he was standing on the balcony of this safe house with two hellfire missiles. but over the course of the last several months, including a july 1st meeting inside the situation room, intelligence officials brought in a small scale model of the safe house that they brought to the president to describe to him how exactly they could conduct this strike with a drone and ensure that the building would remain structurally -- but the structural integrity of the building would remain, that the people inside the building, the civilians, including al-zawahiri this family would not be killed, and ultimately, that's exactly what u.s. officials say happened, with these two missiles striking al-zawahiri while he was on his balcony, and officials saying there were no civilian casualties in the process. >> colonel leighton, i want to bring it. during the coverage at the beginning of the war in ukraine, we learned so much about the military capabilities of the united states military. no civilian measuring --

members of his family were killed in this one. talk to us about how complex an operation like this would be, especially without having boots on the ground in afghanistan. >> don, that makes it really incredibly hard to do. when you have boots on the ground, you've got people who can tell you certain things, everything from the wind direction on a given day, but the weather patterns were light, you know, from that perspective as well as what the pattern of life of an individual's. they could be falling that individual and finding out with a routine fire. if you don't have people on the ground, you can do those kinds of things, but it's a lot harder to do them, because you need to rely on technology. we need to rely on satellites, we need to rely on, perhaps, instruments that are left behind by others. those kinds of things. it's a very difficult thing that relies on the architecture of the intelligence system, and the communications architecture that goes along with it. so it's tough to do, but

obviously, it's not impossible. >> talk to us more about these hellfire missiles. to strike a balcony without destroying the rest of the building, how does that work? >> that requires precise targeting intelligence, don. what they did with these whole fires was they gave them the coordinates. they gave them the exact location where they need to be. they decided exactly what's the impact points would be. that means, where they're gonna be heading that particular structure. as jeremy mentioned, they talk in detail about how they would hit the building so as not to make the building collapse on top of itself. that was critical if you want to avoid civilian casualties. the fact that we went through that painstaking exercise to do this kind of operation really speaks volumes as to how the united states conduct these kind of things. luckily, it worked this time. sometimes, it doesn't work. but the effort is made very much to use precision and colleges to find exactly where things are, exactly where the vulnerable points higher, and

exactly the place where you need to target. >> nick, it's good to have you here in new york. it's been a while. i think since syria that we've actually been on the set together. you spent so much time in afghanistan -- you are in the field covering this region. what does it say to you thought al-zawahiri was in downtown kabul and not some remote area? >> startling, but also not that surprising to. we should be pretty much of the mind that the taliban -- have not turned into some fluffy institution, which now happens to be in government. this is the taliban who sheltered al-qaeda as they planned 9/11, putting those same individuals back and a very comfortable area of kabul. he's not hiding in a cave, this is the nice part of kabul, where the fancy villas where. i was talking to a former afghan official who says this house was a matter of doors down from where he used to live. so yes, this is certainly, --

it's impossible for this to have occurred without at least a small amount of taliban knowing that he was there, inviting him, putting him there. unclear how long it was there. sounds like a number of months. it's also startling, frankly, that the united states was able to pull this off. we shouldn't underestimate these things. >> -- >> they found this man, one of the most wanted man on earth, in a country where they don't have any boots on the ground at all. they had to leave a year ago in something of a mess, it still, they're able to take him out on a balcony without knocking down the rest of the house. however much i think we need to worry about what it meant for the u.s. to -- be in afghanistan, and whether they would lose the ability to gain intelligence the way they needed to, this is an extraordinary feat. >> i think his last public appearance was on july 13th. do you think that he got overly confident? do you think you let his guard down? >> that seems to have been the case here. when officers talking to said

there was signs and some of the messages that he was more relaxed, talking about more recent events, perhaps not feeling he had to delay things to hide his whereabouts. this is possibly part of the reason he was top caught. the complacency. possibly two on the side of those who are looking after him. thinking, we can do whatever like, we can invite guests whenever we wish. maybe they didn't think al-qaeda was any longer a target, but clearly there where. america hasn't forgotten 9/11 it is still pursuing justice. -- we don't have foreign fighters in this country, we would not allow al-qaeda to be here. well, can't get much more -- than this. hasn't stopped the u.s. going after them, but i think it'll certainly make people who are trying to -- have another thought. >> jeremy, let's pick up on something that nick just talked about, about not having boots on the ground. this marks one year since the

chaotic and deadly withdrawal from afghanistan. politically, what does this victory mean for the biden administration? >> listen. i think as to the capabilities of, you know, their ability to contract this strike without boots on the ground, this is validation of something that biden administration officials and the president talked about during that withdrawal from afghanistan last year. you'll recall that at the time, as president biden was announcing that withdrawal, he found that the united states would still maintain, quote, over the horizon capabilities. what are over the horizon capabilities? it's exactly what we saw this past weekend with the ability to carry out this drone strike. the president and administration officials said that even without boots on the ground, they would make sure that they would have the capability to go after terrorists and terrorist organizations like pose a harm to the united states. that's what he was able to accomplish here. now i think there's this other question that nick was rage saying regarding the knowledge that taliban government officials out about this. an official we spoke to this evening actually confirmed that senior channel ban officials, in particular, officials associated with the haqqani not

work, but they were aware of his presence in kabul, and the capital city. but settles a whole lot of questions. not only did this officials say that's a violation of the doha agreement that led to the withdrawal of troops. -- not allow terrorist groups to have a safe haven in afghanistan. but it now raises questions about the future, potentially, of u.s. taliban relations. something that is potentially been on the horizon in the long term. now, all of that very much, even more in question with all of these revelations. >> i see you shaking your head. we want to get on that? >> share. i think whatever means that is exactly right. another thing to talk about here when it comes to over the horizon capabilities, don, is the fact that the intelligence picture has to be -- nearly perfect in order to pull an operation like this off. the over the horizon capabilities on the operational capabilities that we see with these drone strikes. but also, the intelligence that goes into making these drone

strikes possible in the very fact that we did this shows that there is this really robust intelligence architecture that's watching over afghanistan at this point in time. >> nick, we've been talking about this war on terror. what does this mean for -- when it comes to counterterrorism, what does this mean for the world to have someone like al-zawahiri now gone? >> this is a man who seemed to have his hands and the operations of al-qaeda. they had a lower profile because of the attention focused on isis. i think an important point to make is the last major incident we had like this was the death of a baghdadi isis leader in syria. that's something you are special forces pulled off as they were withdrawing from northern syria because of that incident with turkey moving in their. that was a remarkable feat. this still carries, u.s. state -- after the u.s. pulled out of afghanistan. so the reach is pretty remarkable. there's now a question regarding who takes his place. -- the un has said in neighboring iran, the question of course for a run is if they accept that's the case. does he stay there?

they would be harboring the new leader of al-qaeda. these are urgent questions, certainly, for the region. and certainly to, what can the taliban do to try to reclaim the idea that it's not going to create another haven for al-qaeda? i think that's a slight fiction. most people thought it was convenient to justify the u.s. departure from afghanistan. they couldn't just say it would go back to what it was prior to 9/11. but we've got a difficult moment here. -- -- we had a lot of pushback from u.s. officials saying, well, that isn't so much the case. now, we have something quite as public and blatant as al-zawahiri living in plain sight, we said earlier on, and one of the nicest parts of town, in a safe house. almost certainly with taliban acquiescence. that's startling for afghanistan, certainly. it will change life on the ground there for -- but it's a remarkable moment for the biden administration.

they had to deal with the abject humiliation of what happened in august of last year, and still, this is quite startling. >> we're so grateful that we're here. usually you're on the ground, as we said, and afghanistan. we're happy to have you here in new york. thank you for joining us. thank you, germany, colonel as well. we will continue with our coverage now. we've got a lot more to come on the united states drone strike that killed ayman al-zawahiri nearly 21 years after 9/11. does this make americans safer? that's a question. in two seconds, a vacationer will say... yeah, i'm going to live here. only to realize... what if i can't sell my place? ♪ don't worry. sell it directly to opendoor and we'll help you buy your next one. aah.

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>> one of the world's most wanted terrorists taken it by two american hellfire missiles hitting the balcony of a home right in the middle of kabul. joining me now, former defense secretary william cohen. secretary, thank you for joining us. i should say ambassador cohen. >> good evening, don. >> listen, it has been almost 21 years since 9/11. an attack that changed the united states in the world. tell me what is significant moment this has. >> this is a really historic moment. you pointed out that nearly a new generation has grown up since the 9/11 attacks.

many of those who are serving in our military today, in the intelligence service, warned weren't even born then borne that. you have young people coming up who have no sense of history of what took place, who al-qaeda was, why are we after them, why are they after us. we have to remind people what happened during 9/11. the attack and peng the towers, show the attack on the panic on, think about flight 93, i -- who stood up at the ceremony, honoring those sailors. he said, remember the goal, remember the coal. and this is part of remembering what took place, and why we're still suffering from it. people who are serving today, still remember that, that event. and those events have that followed. so it's a very important day for america, and for the freedom of people throughout the world, who are under the threat of terror. >> secretary, giving a very

good point. obviously, the most significant was 9/11. you also mentioned the coal. the u.s. embassies in kenya and tanzania that he was indicted for. there was 1981, on i'll sadat. there had been a number of things that he's been responsible for, and also should be, should face the consequences for, and now is paying the ultimate price. my question is, you can respond to that, but are you surprised to hear that al-zawahiri wasn't downtown kabul? >> somewhat surprised. not really astonished by it. the taliban as not someone, a group that you can put any phase, and trust their agreements. but i want to go back to him, to al-zawahiri. that he carried out mass attacks, killing civilians, hundreds of them, and thousands, actually here in the united states. and what's so striking is the kind of precision and patience,

and consideration that the president biden and our entire intelligence community exercise. this is what separates us from the terrorists who are attacking civilians. it's what separates us from, let's say, the russians, who leveled entire residential buildings, killing hundreds if not thousands, without any concern about innocent civilians. and i can only tell you from my experience, when i was at the pentagon, i would have regular meetings, almost daily meetings with president clinton, going over the targets picked over that day, and the -- excuse me, one second. that day, we would go over the targets. we would go over the type of munitions that were being used, what the damage was, what's the collateral damage was, because we want to minimize the killing of innocent civilians. and that is how we are. so, we know al-qaeda is. we know who al-zawahiri was. and we want the people, in this country, to know who we are.

and that's something that we can take a great deal of pride, and president biden sent a lot of credit for the kind of leadership, white leadership that he's been exercising. >> why don't we listen to some of the president said tonight. here it is. >> when i was on a military mission in afghanistan almost a year ago, i made a decision that after 20 years of war, the u.s. no longer needed thousands of boots on the ground in afghanistan, to protect america from terrorists who seek to do us harm. and i made a promise, to the american people, and we continue to conduct effective counter-terrorism operations in afghanistan and beyond. we've done just that. >> so, secretary cohen, there was a lot of concern after the u.s. pulled troops out of afghanistan, and what leaving would mean for our counterterrorism abilities. does this answer those questions, or is there more that the u.s. could be doing, if there were troops, physically they are on the ground? >> i think it's always better

to have troops on the ground, to the extent that you can have them in smaller numbers, if at all possible. but having them on the ground, but presents an intelligence gathering. i'd have to suspect that there were someone who was cooperating with our intelligence capability, to give them precise indications of what the building was constructed of, where the rooms who are, what's the kind of damage would the hellfire make, it's not just the balcony. we could ask the question, what happens if he wasn't out on the balcony? would he had to hit the target anyway, regardless of whether he would have killed his children or his family? those are the kind of questions. to get back to the question you next at the closing of your previous segment, you said, are we safe? the answer is, we're safer. but we're not safe. we're never going to be safe from acts of terrorism. it's always going to be with

humanity, and it's not in afghanistan, it will be in some other countries. and that's just the nature of what we face, historically have faced. and so, we have to be, as we say, vigilant, and we have an intelligence capability, second to none. it can take up the license plate from deep space, that can take a person or a target out from a drone, hovering some pretty high in the sky. so, we have that technology. would it be better if we have on the ground capability? obviously. i think president biden, has made this promise. he said we'll go after the terrorists, whenever they are, whenever we can. and give due consideration to protecting innocence of the u.s.. >> in the spirit of educating people, who may not remember things as you said, rightfully so, we all remember this, at least those of us who are of a certain age. we remember that then president, this photo than president barack obama, and vice president then, joe biden, and

other officials inside the situation room, including then secretary of state hillary clinton and others, when bin laden was killed. what does this strike mean for president biden and his presidency? >> well, it shows what we can do, what our capability is, what our commitment is. in terms of telling the american people and the world that we will not let terrorism go unchecked, i will remember the speech that i gave when we received the bodies of those were killed in the embassies, the american embassies in east africa. i remember the speech i gave, we are going to reach out, wherever you are, the long arm of justice is going to reach out and chew in ways that you can't quite imagine today. and, it took a long time for that to be a reality, but that's the commitment every president has made, and will continue to make. so, joe biden, he gets a lot of credit with the patients, for carrying out, keeping his

promise. so, now, we go forward, saying there's always gonna be someone else there, looking through attack, asked looking to undermine our democracy, and our credibility throughout the world. we have to have leaders who will appoint confident people. and this comes back to something that we've been talking about, where another form of president wants to command and clean out the so-called, deep states. you're not seeing the deep states in the action. the kind of military intelligence, intelligence gathering capability, the kind of advisors that are sitting in that white house, giving the president council. that's a deep space. that's a state that will protect us, not hiring a bunch of incompetence, and somebody, because they are major contributors to your campaign, and are yes men. so, joe biden, the team that put it together was great. the team that was seen in that white house situation room, when they went after bin laden, many of them are still with us, still within the white house, we're giving advice to the president. so, that's a deep state inaction.

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>> we're back with more now and huge news tonight. president joe biden announcing the u.s. killed al-qaeda leader ayman al-zawahiri in a drone strike over the weekend. joining me now, democratic senator in chair of the district community, rick

durbin. senator, thank you, i appreciate you joining us on this night, incredible news. this was an individual who helped to mastermind the 9/11 attacks, took over al-qaeda after the u.s. killed osama bin laden. americans and the world safer tonight with him gone? tonight? >> i think so. the bottom line is that this was the number two man with osama bin laden responsible for 9/11. the fact is that at least three american presidents, and maybe more, have been in pursuit of this man ever since. he's eluded all the efforts to capture and kill him until now. this closes and then important chapter. i hope it brings down terrorist operation, and could still threaten america. >> it was a year ago, this month, when president biden withdrew from afghanistan. a lot of criticism, and he paid for it in the polls. do you think this would reassure people that president biden is giving the fight against terror a type priority?

>> i believe it does. he's achieved something that others have tried for years to achieve. i was not one of the critics of the withdrawal from afghanistan. i thought that after the longest war in the history of the united states, we have to be very honest about the prospects of finally resolving it in any way comfortable to the united states. i think the president did the right thing, you might have done it a little differently, we can always second-guess it. but at this point, taking al-zawahiri out is an indication that the pursuit of tara has not stopped. >> i want to talk about another big international story. house speaker nancy pelosi is expected to take a trip to taiwan. white house officials are warning if china escalates tensions over this, it'll be entirely on beijing. do you believe this trip is worth it? >> i can just tell you that

trips to taiwan are almost routine by members of congress. i've been invited half a dozen times. i've been taken up the invitation, but over the years, it was considered a huge -- routine visit. the chinese have now decided they're gonna dictate the schedules and visits of members of congress into asia. where do they get off doing that? she has a right to make this decision, i think she'll make the right decision as to what to do. but to think that china is gonna clear the schedules of those who wish to visit taiwan, you've got to see what they're doing to a tiny country like lithuania that had the nerve to say they were gonna do business with taiwan. chinese who tried to freeze them out on the world stage. they are bullies, and they're trying to push nancy pelosi around, and i don't think that's gonna happen. >> listen, they call these the summer doldrums, right? we have so much news to get to. another thing i want to talk to you about -- those missing secret service text. the house democrats are calling on homeland security inspector general to recuse himself from this investigation. i mean, this comes after cnn's

report that showed investigators knew more than a year, that texas have been erased. does he need to recuse himself, do you think? >> i think it's time for the attorney general to appoint a u.s. attorney to take over this investigation. this is about the destruction of critical evidence, whether it's material to the january 6th episode or not. the fact that this man -- and spectral general could not get the information that should've been transferred from one administration to the other and didn't report it properly to congress or to the agency but he is working abbott. we may have jeopardized some very critical evidence when it comes to the historical record on january 6th, and he treated it as almost a routine event, rather than something that should've been highlighted. >> i want to ask you about the attorney general, merrick garland, or anyone at the doj. have they responded to requests to investigate the missing texts? >> not yet.

that doesn't mean they aren't on the case, it just means that they don't respond to every congressional inquiry. i have a good relationship with the attorney general, i respect him. he has a lot on his plate at this moment. the january six committee is giving him a lot to work with considering the possibility of future prosecutions. but to think that critical evidence from the secret service or the department of homeland security -- relative to this insurrectionists mob on january six, somehow magically disappears, when the trumps group leaves the offices. i mean, that raises a lot of suspicions. i'm assuming that this is relevant or important evidence, that we know that for sure, from the very minimum, we should have the evidence to take a closer look at. >> let me clarify here that you're saying you're not assuming anything, but do you think the ig was acting in bad faith by not telling the house select committee sooner? >> it's their choice.

it is their incompetence. the bottom line, with this kind of critical information, when it's not transferred from one administration to another, that's not routine. and he tweeted it as such. >> another aspect of the story is this rioter who carried out a gun to the capitol and threatened house speaker nancy pelosi, getting more than seven years in prison. that's two years longer than any other prison term for a capitol rioter. do you think the sentence is fair? >> i can tell you, when you bring a firearm into the capitol with that kind of intention, or near the capitol with that kind of intention, there is a price to be paid. we've got to send a message out, where the administration is one party or the other is a relevant. violence is unacceptable. this man was prepared to use a weapon or he never would've brought it to washington. >> senator dick durbin, thank you so much. i appreciate you joining us. >> thanks, don. >> next, an officer that was in the presidential motorcade on january 6th tells me what he knows about trump's heated discussion with his security

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>> more and more testimony corroborating then president trump wanted to go to the capitol, after his rally on january 6th, including testimony from retired d.c. metropolitan police, sergeant mark robinson, who was in trump's motorcade that day. robinson testified that the secret service agent responsible for the motorcade said that trump had a heated discussion with his detail about going to the capital. there he is, sergeant mark robinson. he's here with me now. this is his first time speaking out on cnn, but first, i just have a reminder for you. this is his key testimony to the january 6th committee. watch this. >> was there any description of what was occurring in the car? >> no. only that, the only description

i received was that the president was upset, and that he was adamant about going to the capital, and there was a heated discussion about that. so at the end of the speech, we do know that well inside the limo, the president was still adamant about going to the capital. that's been relayed to me by the tsa agent. and so, we did part the ellipse, and we responded back to the white house. however, we, at the motorcade, were placed on standby. >> sergeant, good evening. thanks for joining. >> good evening, don. thank you. >> tell us more about how you learn that the president was adamant about going to the capitol. >> well, the communication came directly from the secret service agent and to the leading officer in the car. so, you are constantly, you know, concerned about the movements, you know, the

president, so you need to know, and in that communications directly from the agent. >> what was conveyed to you? how insistent, just how insistent was he about carrying going? >> i mean, we've heard it several times. while he was on the motorcade, i think, during the speech, shortly thereafter he finished the speech, the president was getting to the motorcade and he was upset. he adamantly wanted to get rid -- he adamantly wanted to go to the capitol. even when we departs from the lives, it was repeated again, that the president, it was a heated argument in the limo. and he wanted to definitely go to the capitol. so, when we arrived at the white house, the motorcade was placed on standby. >> so, how did that -- as we say in the vernacular now, how did that hit with you guys on that day? >> i mean, for me, i didn't know which was -- you know, which was actually happening outside the ellipse. i can hear in transmissions from the radio that, you know,

crawling from the capitol, but i don't know exactly what was happening. so, for me, to know that there are armed subject outside, to know that there are large crowds responding, that was alarming because, one, you weren't prepared to do that, normally when you've a presidential motorcade, you have a secure route. so, we have sufficient personnel to do that. so we were comfortable with that move. >> were you saying, what on earth does he want to go back to the capital for? was that what you guys were seeing? >> absolutely. now, knowing what's actually happened, that would have been horrible. you know, at the motorcade responded to the capitol, they would've been just far worse. >> it's pretty bad. far worse, i mean, responsibly -- >> i think it would, you know, probably encourage the more rioting. and i felt supported to the president motorcade came and supported them. i think the insurrectionists felt as though they had the support of the president.

>> what did you say? you said that you had been in over 100 motorcades with trump before, and never heard anything like that. >> it's not necessarily 100 motorcades with president trump. so, i've been in the motorcade since 2011 -- >> i just mean several. >> yeah, in general, over 100. i'm sorry, what was your question, don? >> i said, you had been an over 100 motorcades, and nothing like that had ever -- >> right, so, when a president is moving, you know, in my experience, if the president is going to destination, we go. and there are some moves that just pop up along the way, and it's always communicating, it's always worked out. and we go. i've never experienced, you know, when the president wants to go somewhere, and there is a heated argument, a dispute, and a debate on whether or not the president can go somewhere, and then he actually doesn't go. i've never had that experience before. >> there has been, you just sort of hold the false

narrative out there about, no one was armed, there were no firearms in the crowd of people who are out there. you mentioned that you heard over the radio that people in that crowd had weapons. wouldn't a president be removed immediately from any situation like that, where there are individuals with weapons nearby? >> i believe the secret service were comfortable, meaning that they had their security, they had the protection, they had a party routes, and that security measures in place to get the president safe. i can hear, over the radio, that subjects are. i can hear officers responding, you know, to that. and there is video footage to support that, which was played during the testimony as well. >> what do you -- i guess, you know i'm asking you to -- let us put it this way. with the experience that you have, why do you think someone would want to go into whatever appeared to be danger on that day? >> i can't imagine anyone,

especially in that position, wanting to go to the capitol. you talk about the president, and i just could imagine somehow, you want to go to the capitol, under those conditions. >> so, despite all of that, him wanting to go to the capitol, the motorcade, wanted to go back to the white house. how is that decision made, sergeant? >> it's always made through the secret service. so, through that, there are managers, supervisors. and so, they are formed, the lead agent they are informed. the tsa agent hole inform the lead car, and that would be myself. so, we informed the motorcade, whether or not, because we have to be prepared, whether or not a movement is gonna be made. so have to be prepared for that, you know, to secure a route, we have to get there and get back, and to keep the protect safe. >> and in the stand by, you are like, what, we're on standby to possibly go back into danger? >> i mean, you know, i'm just so thankful that it did not happen. and so, i didn't, you know, and

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