thanks for watching. i'll be back tomorrow night. "d "don lemon tonight" starts right now. >> we're getting close. it's hump day. call it hump night. two more days into the weekend, which we may have to work on anyways, one never knows when you're in this business. >> i don't know. i've already talked my lipstick off so i'm going home. that's the end of my contract. i don't have the guaranteed millions of the nfl but when my lipstick is done, so is laura coats. >> so much to talk about. by the way, i saw the top of your show, that alex jones on the stand today when he found out he's like do you know how we got your text messages and he's like what? >> man. >> that was some you know what? >> that was a moment. if you scripted that i would have been like that's not going to happen but look back to the lawyer who sort of like is

chewing on a nthumbnail at that moment, i want to know what the conversation was like after not because i'm sympathetic in someway to somebody that would have tortured those families for sandy hook for so long. curiosity is one thing but to catch him in the lie they did, unbelievable. >> amazing to watch. see you tomorrow. have a good one. >> good night. this is "don lemon tonight." we'll have more on the fallout from the scandal over those other text messages they were talking about, missing secret service texts. sources telling cnn the secret service may temporarily disable texting over the firestorm from around january 6th. we'll have more on that in a moment. let us not forget there are more missing texts from key trump pentagon officials. the season of the missing texts, right? you know i always say it, i've been saying this for awhile. don't fall for the old

okie-doke. they want to bamboozle you, or eddie murphy said banana in the tail pipe. don't let them tell you the january 6th threat is over. it's not. this is a cancer on the democracy that has gotten bigger, it's a cancer of lies. you see it everywhere. there are the election deniers on the ballot, people who could be in positions of real power the next time. just last night arizona republican shows the leading election denier as their nominee to oversee voting in a state that's been the target of election lies ever since it went for joe biden in 2020. it's all about the big lie. that as the federal criminal investigation of january 6 fth m moves deeper into the trump white house. patrick who was deputy white house counsel has been subpoenaed by the doj. that after we learned last night that his boss pat cipollone was

also subpoenaed. watch. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we're going to get charges every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and we may learn a lot more soon. there are threats to election workers, top election official warning senators are bracing for the worst with the midterms looming. and then there is a new york times reporting that two arizona republicans were so concerned about the fake electors plot that they fear that their actions could be seen as treason. fake electors. missing texts. election deniers on the ballot. fears of treason. it all adds up to a clear and present danger to our democracy. the question is, as always, what are we going to do about it?

straight to cnn jessica schneider with the latest on this scandal over those missing secret service texts. good evening. thanks for joining us. tell us more about the secret service potentially disabling text messages from their agents. what is going on? >> there is an ongoing saga we've been covering for months. we're learning secret service is exploring this possibility of maybe suspending the use of texts temporarily all while they really fix the issues with the way the text messages from the employees are backed up so our team is learning this because it's all being disclosed in a new memo from the secret service director. it's the latest sign the secret service knows it needs to change policies amid the backlash from revelations, the text messages from employee's phones were erase from the crucial time period january 6th. secret service said it was a routine phone replacement but aren't giving all the answers congress wants. they previously said they relied on employees to back up their

own phones and obviously, many of the employees, most of the employees didn't do that so we learned the secret service is actually putting together a plan to make sure that records in the future are preserved and while they're coming up with this plan, they may stop letting their employees text in the meantime but don, it's just a possible plan right now. nothing definite and that's because they need to actually look into how this would affect the agency's work. for example, employees text local police departments so that would be a problem if they suddenly couldn't text. so this is all being looked at. it's all on the table they might suspend this texting while they figure out the best path forward but it's been a mess for the secret service with questions surrounding how exactly they retained data and trying to come up with a way to fix it for the future. >> it's really astaunounding an agency has the importance of the secret service, considering their jobs that they don't have an official way to back up text

messages that they're relying on their employees. i mean, it's stunning to me. >> finally realizing they need a plan in place now but a little late. >> what about the calls on the defense department, the inspector general to invest gate missing texts from top military leaders. where does that stand? >> the newest call tonight is from dick duringban. he wants the inspector general looking into this. the pentagon is responding saying they understand that this is the request, they want to wait until they get the official letter request from durban. durban wants the inspector general to look into the fact the defense department wiped the phones of the top d.o.d. officials after january 6th and the concern here is that those phones held valuable information, valuable insight into why exactly and particular it took hours to deploy the national guard to the capitol and maybe how trump was or was not weighing in on that

decision. so now it appears that those texts are gone and you combine that with the revelation over the past several weeks that the secret service texts are gone it has members of congress asking for answers and now they're pressing the pentagon inspector general to look into this just as the dhs ig is looking into the missing secret service text. >> thank you very much. appreciate that. i want to bring in john dean of watergate prosecutor. so glad to have you on. nick, let me just ask you this:you know, listening to jessica's reporting, is it stunning to you that there isn't a better way the secret service has to back up the important work text messages? they are responsible for the leader of the free world for the safety and the life, really, of the leader 0 thof the free world they don't have an official way

to back up information they need? >> that's absolutely absurd. there is absolutely skull dugry going on here. most people don't realize the secret service is the agency that started doing cybersecurity investigations and computer investigations and they really are supposedly the experts in terms of understanding the topology of the government programs and the networks that are out there. so to me, this all sounds like a major coverup, you just don't have the secret service losing text messages when there is a concern about whether or not trump tried to get mike pence out of the capitol the night of january 6th. you don't have messages missing from homeland security when you know that there were calls made to homeland security about seizing voting machines and god knows what they were doing with the department of defense. it all really stinks to high

heaven. >> yeah. john, let me bring you in to get your reaction of this new reporting about the secret service text messages. this isn't a fix for the deleted messages on january 6th but what do you think about the move to disable texts while they fix how they retain these messages? >> i think they ought to be getting answers and responding to congress about january 5th and 6th, which is missing before they start working on their remedies or even announcing what they're doing. they got to get their act together. sounds very premature, don. so i don't know that i can give any guidance on this issue. >> nick, so the bigger picture here, we've been talking about this missing text message from the secret service department of homeland security. how does all this look to you? does it -- i mean, it's a little weird. i don't want to, you know, be so sure on the air that there is something going on here but it stinks to high heaven certainly.

>> well, it's just too coincidental. as john will remember, there was talk during watergate after the nixon tapes came out that some people said well nixon should have just destroyed all the tapes and he would have remained in office and never been impeached. well, the fact of the matter is somebody may have done the same thing here, realized that the information on these text messages are so damming that they had to get rid of them for january 5th and 6th and better to do that and hope nobody discovered what they did or who did it. we just don't know. it really requires a very thorough investigation overall into all three agencies by somebody who really understands cybersecurity and computers. >> so okay, let's just say we don't know if that happened but you're bringing it up here. let's just say that scenario

happened,d john dean. that's serious. what are the consequences for something like that happening, a government agency doing something like that? >> well, if they have deliberately destroyed this material, they probably all were given notice to retain evidence, you know, i don't know if the january 6th committee did that but it's very likely because we know some of those agencies were put on notice. so the fact that they knew that they were to preserve this evidence and let it disappear as it has is just not going to cut it. we also know that the insp inspector's general have been sitting on this information for quite awhile that raises more suspicion. we have a lot of reasons to be concerned and no answers. no, if this was a grand jury or if this were the watergate era, even, you had a judge who as soon as tapes were missing and

inexplicably missing parts of them, he hauled everybody into the court and got right to the bottom of it. we came up with the famous explanation by rose mary woods she believes she accidently erased 18.5 minutes of a tape while that just came out in the courtroom and proved actually she couldn't have done what she said she did. we don't have that advantage right now but this is two conc conspeckous. i don't think you can get away with this today, evidence can be tracked and traced so i think they will get to the bottom of it. >> let's just say, john, you were in front of a normal court proceeding and the person who was -- the defendant was saying well, you know, this happened, this happened, this happened and all these things were erased. don't you think the other side

would say look, we win because you guys got rid of the evidence. am i wrong? >> well, that's very possible. yes, you can default if you destroy evidence. certainly in a civil case and in a criminal case. >> willingly or unwillingly? >> yes, well, if it's whiting, it's probably another crime. if it's unwitting, you know, for example we have alex jones with his texts suddenly showing up and opposing attorneys possession, that's a very interesting situation. he seemed baffled by it but proved he lied and they're not going to be able to get around that. these things can play out in ways we never expect. >> nick, let's move on and talk about "the new york times" reporting, "the times" tonight reporting john eastman sent an email to rudy giuliani arguing they should sue in georgia to keep searching for fraud that he acknowledged they failed to find. he knew that there was no f proof that this was a baseless

climb of wide spread voter fraud. >> well, of course. they all knew that. even rudy giuliani told bowers that they had a lot of great theories with no evidence. this is the guy who is the speaker of the house in arizona. i mean, this whole thing was a tactic to basically try and put trump into office and to stop the peaceful transfer of power. i mean, i don't think anybody can seriously say that any of these people could really believe that in fact, there was any kind of fraud out there. i mean, you know right from get-go when trump first even ran in the republican primary he had roger stone create the stop the steal program, which began back in 2016 in a republican primary. i mean, the only reason we didn't hear more about it was because trump won the primaries and eventually won the

presidency. the moment he lost, this was his technique to claim the election was stolen from him. >> the times we're living in gentlemen, thank you very much. appreciate it. voters in a red state in the middle of the country turning out in droves to support abortion rights. are they sending a message to a post roe america? >> the people of kansas spoke yesterday and they spoke loud and clear. they said this is not a partisan issue. the women of america should not be the subject of partisan debate or perspective. and for us at booking.com this means - free cancellation on most bookings.. it's a bit functional. but we'll gladly be f functional. so you can be free. booking.com booking.yeah

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so last night we were reporting what was happening in kansas and election news around the country. kansas voters sending a message loud and clear overwhelmingly rejecting an amendment that would have said there is no right to an abortion in the state and that's already sending political shock waves ahead of the november midterms. let's discuss now, cnn political commentator ana navarro and stewart is here. ms. navarro. i'll start with you. this is a state that trump carried by 15 points in 2020. last night, the pro-choice side

won 58% of the votes. that means a lot of republicans had to go out and vote for this. >> republicans -- >> why? >> because republicans like their rights, too. because republicans have young girls, young daughters what get pregnant too and republicans have mistresses, because this is not an issue that is one side or the other and because this is an issue where people have had rights for 50 years, and taking out a right is one of the most difficult things you can do after people have gotten used to that right. i think part of what was so shocking in kansas yesterday, this is a state that has not voted for a democrat for president -- >> for president. >> in all of our lifetime. alice, you and me were not alive in 1964 when lbj were you weren't alive, right? [ laughter ]

>> i was a glimmer. i was a mlmost alive. >> that's the shocking part, the numbers --? you know you were a republican. you know the republican party. you worked republican circles. you were a republican strategists. you know how republicans feel about abortion. >> there are congress people right now, republican u.s. congress people who were p pro anti abortion who was revealed had sent their girlfriends to have abortions. so the hypocrisy, the hypocrisy by so many people who are making these laws and i'm not referring to alice because that's not who i'm referring to but there are many, many people who are incredibly double faced and hypocritical when it comes to this. >> alice, what do you think about these results? turnout was huge for a primary in this red state and red state voters sent a pretty clear message here. >> it was. it was a wakeup call for the

pro-life community in terms of making sure that we don't rest on our laurels in terms of what we accomplished in the pro-life movement. let's take a step back. the pro-life community has been working to overturn roe v. wade since its inception for 50 years and that has been a huge focus. once that was overturned that was the first litmus test or opportunity for voters, the pro-choice community and the pro-life community to really galvanize people. when roe was overturned and the dobbs case was handed down, the pro-choice communique came out in droves angry, frustrated, organized and what we had in kansas, look at the numbers, fundraising numbers, 99% of the money put into kansas to turn out the vote was from out of state to make an example in kansas. clearly, republicans also voted to -- voted no on this issue to

keep things as they were. this was a good litmus test. what i've seen since this came down the last 24 hours, i can assure you those in the pro-life community are doubling down and refocussing efforts to put more pro-life legislators at the state level but also to reinforce the issue in terms of making sure that the pro-life candidates are front and center on the ballot and we work to preserve the sanctity of life at the state level -- >> let me ask you this -- >> the most important think we've always wanted, don, i've always said this since we started talking about this. the point is to take this decision out of the hands of nine unelected justices and put it at the state level. i don't like the results yesterday but if that's what we see state after state after state i'll stand back and applaud the fact -- >> that's my question -- >> by the people. >> let me jump in here. i only have so much time. then what you're saying then is that -- what i'm seeing is that

the pro-life movement is then out of touch with the majority of americans including republicans. and what you're saying is we will put people in place, which is basically minority rule, put people in place who are not in step with the republican party, right, with the big tent supposedly of the republican party, the majority i should say is a better term of the republican party because you want you and the pro-life movement want something that most people don't want. how is that okay? >> don, that's not what i'm saying. that's exactly what i'm not saying. if this is the will of the people, if what we saw in kansas becomes a litmus test -- >> i know you said that but then you said we'd work even harder to put pro-life people in positions to be able to make these things happen because you're unhappy with what happened last night. >> we're going to galvanize pro-life voters across the country to elect pro-life

legislators and if there aren't enough pro-life voters to galvanize and encourage that then that's not the will of the people, don, i think most importantly, i think that what makes this country great is a democracy. decisions like this are best handled by the people closest to the electret in this country and if the majority of people do not like these laws and would much rather support pro-choice, then i'm for that. i happen to be pro-life. i would appreciate and support pro-life laws and legislation, but if that's not the will of the people, then that's not what we should have. and that's plain and simple. i've advocated for that since we had these conversations. >> it's not the will of the people. time after time, poll after poll, it's not the will of the american people and what the supreme court did was impose their religious values on the american people and i think people are reacting to that. and yes, a lot of the money they went into kansas came from out of state but the votes were very much from in state.

the votes were very much from kansas and what i think it shows is i think republicans have grossly misjudged the level of anger and out reach and the ability of people to maintain that out reach. the question i have is that same level going to go through november? and look, i think part of it is it's being fueled by these horrible consequences, these stories of the 10-year-old girl raped and i'm prmpregnated and couldn't get an abortion and women with a dead baby inside and can't get a dnc and people that can't get ivf and doctors being prosecuted, all of those things are sinking in to the american psyche that the effects and konsconsequences of this overturning are far reaching the fear that gay people have when

it comes to the slegality of their marriages and those are real fears driving people to the polls. >> did you understand the point i was trying to make with alice? she said okay, then the pro-life movement will continue to work harder to put pro-life legislators but those pro-life legislators aren't in step with who what most people in the country want. down? >> i do. one of things to me is interesting when this decision came down, there were actually very few republicans and so-called pro-life legislators who were celebrating the decision. alice was celebrating the decision but most of them were talking about state rights and talking about other things not really celebrating the decision because they finally caught the bus. because they finally caught the bus. they've been using this -- >> the dog that caught the car. >> there is a small -- i'm from nicaragua, it's a bus. there is a small section of pro-life community committed who wanted to overturn it. for many, many other republicans, this has been a political pawn. a political wedge issue used to

bring out the base that they, you know, that they really want all of this to happen? i don't know. i think, you know, i think the american public are having a very strong reaction to the idea of no separation between church and state, which is such a pillar of our constitution and our democracy. ron desantis signed the abortion ban in florida inside a pent coastal church. what? what? >> thank you both. how long -- we've been working together for what? ten years. >> less than 1964. [ laughter ] >> alice, we've been together for about seven years. i know how you feel about abortion and you said that's the reason that people stuck with donald trump since all of his antics. thank you both very much. this conversation will continue. let's talk now about alex jones taking the stand in the defamation lawsuit against him but his own lawyers are behind the day's big bombshell. wait until you see this. >> mr. jones, did you know that

12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone?

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really stunning scenes in a texas courtroom today. conspiracy theorists alex jones finally admitting the sandy hook shooting that killed 20 children and six adults actually happened and a huge bombshell, the lawyers for the family of jessie lewis, one of the children murdered in the shooting obtaining years of jones' phone records and sharing them in

court. watch how it unfolded. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you've sent for the past two years and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protect it in any way and as of two days ago, it fell free and clear into my possession and that's how i know you lied to me you didn't have texts of sanity hook. >> i told you the truth. this is your perry mason moment. i gave them my phone judge judge mr. jones, you need to answer the question. >> did you know this happened. >> i didn't know this happened. i told you i gave them the phone. >> wow. this trial is the first of three that will determine how much jones will have to pay multiple sandy hook families who sueded him and won over his lies.

joining me now cnn senior investigator correspondent drew griffin and legal analyst joey jackson. good evening. i mean, drew, jaw dropping. i couldn't believe it was true when i was actually seeing it with my own eyes. that was a huge bombshell in court today. what do the sandy hook families lawyers want to prove? >> first and foremost, the obvious, reiterating what the jury has seen in this trial. alex jones is a liar. alex jones lies about just about everything. but beyond that, he also, the plaintiff's attorney mark bankston i believe wanteded to s show the jury why they are here at this point only determining what kind of damages or the penalty phase of this, not whether or not alex jones defamed these parents because that was already decided by a judge and it was decided by a judge by default because for years, alex jones has failed to comply with discovery in this

case and part of the discovery was alex jones saying he had no texts on his phone related to sandy hook. well boom, you lied. here they are. now they have them in his position. shows he's a liar and shows to the jury again why they are here only deciding the penalty portion of this trial. >> joey jackson, let's dig in on these phone records for a moment. this isn't the only case jones was involved in. what is his huge mistake due to the other lawsuits? >> quite a bit, don. look, the reality is under c cross-ex cross-examination, what you do as an attorney is get to the truth and when you attack with specific documents and information relative to what you deny, no, i don't have any text messages that relate to anything that i opined about, spoke about, communicated about, or denied as it related to sandy hook and find two years worth of text messages that expose in

essence that you do have multiple text messages, you have discussed this issue. you have discussed it with multiple parties on multiple occasions through multiple months in two years it opens a can of worms. to be clear and what drew was speaking to, this is called the damages section, the determination was made already as to his liability, you can't say whatever you want in this country regardless of what he believes, it has to be true whether it impairs a reputation and when it's something like this, it's beyond the pail. i think now people know it exists and certainly opens him up to other families he has to account for as it relates to the damages to them for the many lies he told regarding sandy hook. >> i hope other conspiracy theorists and election deniers are taking note of if because if it ends up in court, something like this could happen to them. drew, the jury has the case now. they're going to decide damages, the damages jones will have to pay.

what does jones say about this on the stand? >> you know, interesting. there was a point this judge takes questions from the jury and then reads it to jones or reads it to other witnesses in this case but today was jones and asked the question directly. so this was a question that was posed by one of the jurors and just take a listen to what jones' response was. >> right now, the question is what compensation would be appropriate? >> any compensation above $2 million will sink us and -- >> that -- >> shut down. >> no, appropriate, not to you. appropriate for what happened to them. >> i mean, i think it's appropriate for whatever you decide you want to do. >> this whole trial, jones has tried to slip in how he's going to be have

to be the victim and ruin him. a dollar amount? attorneys, jones' attorneys said the jury should award the plaintiffs in this case a dollar for each claim and that would be $8. >> okay. [ laughter ] interesting. and it's kind of late for him to play the victim now. at one point, joey, a clip was played where jones talked about the jury on his own show. listen to this. >> yeah, a lot of people want law and order but experts in jurisdictions and sending out jury summons and hitting let's just say this extremely blue collar folks. i mean, half that jury panel does not know who i am. >> how does the jury react to that, joey? >> so like anyone else, don, when you have someone who obviously is misrepresenting the truth, when you have someone who has said some things beyond the

pail about something that affected so many lives and so many people, when you have someone who is insulting the people who ultimately are making a determination, right? they're human. i think to the extent he's been discredited and outrageous in his assertions to the extent he's been found to be untruthful, i think it resonates clearly with that jury and i would expect the damage award of just ashuge proportions. he's gone into bankruptcy and attempted to find loopholes to avoid it but i think something big and something big is coming soon, don, in terms of a monetary award to the family that suffered dearly as a result of his statements. >> certainly would be a game changer if all the conspiracy theories would have to face such consequences. thank you both. appreciate it. be sure you join drew griffin as he talks to people who know alex jones. the new cnn special report megaphone for conspiracy alex jones area friday at 11:00 p.m.

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we're expecting early votes hand delivered on election day that still have to have ballots signature verified, those will be counted, that's more than 100,000 ballots and that could really prove move the needle. >> kari lake is trump backed. despite her being on top, she's saying there may be fraud. what is that about? >> reporter: pull out your pencil and let's see if you can connect the dots of this logic here. basically, what she's saying is that she still believes in the 2020 election lie and by the way, she held a victory press conference even though she hasn't won yet and the race hasn't been called by any organization and she says that there was fraud in this election as well. she didn't give any evidence but

here is what she said. take a listen. >> we out voted the fraud. we didn't listen to what the fake news had to say. the maga movement rose up and voted like their lives depended on it. >> and lake of course, don, says if she'd lost, there had to have been cheating. she's been saying that for two weeks leading up to the election. d i don't know if you have the pencil handy, basically, she's erasing parts of logic where it's comfortable and where it makes sense and it's working for her campaign. but as we stand right now, there is a very small margin of the votes that have been officially counted for both of these candidates. again, that small margin less than 2%, don. >> she's saying all right words for the election deniers and, you know, the sort of fringe maga people, blame the media. you know, fake news. blah, blah, blah. this is what i don't understand.

you say get out your pencil. when i went to bed last night, kari lake was behind much as joe biden was behind, right, in 2020? and then when the votes the day of and counted all those ballots, when we woke up the next morning, joe biden was ahead. when i woke up this morning, kari lake was ahead so then what is the difference between kari lake and joe biden? how is joe biden's fraudulent and hers not fraudulent? did she explain that? >> reporter: again, don, you are using logic. [ laughter ] >> reporter: we're talking about the same system, the same paper. >> the exact same thing happened. >> reporter: the same. the exact same. the exact same. and i'm so sorry to get animated here but i feel like i'm on repeat, people who have been watching these elections, you know, wherever we are, it -- yeah, it's the same. it's the same. it's just the victor that's different here and who it's

convenient for. >> boy, oh, boy. [ laughter ] and people believe it. wow. thank you kyung lah. stay sane. see you soon. >> reporter: you bet. >> bracing for the worst, an expert testifying the fbi isn't built to handle all the reports of threats and harassment against election officials so who will happen come the midterms?

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a stark warning heading into the midterms ahead of a national election officials group telling congress today the fbi lacks the full picture of the current threats to election workers. here's part of her testimony. and i quote here, a common refrain i hear from my members is that nobody is going to take this seriously until something bad happens and we are all braced for the worst. michigan secretary of state josh would incident testifying to, finding volunteers recounting aggressive protests and threats that she faced as she oversaw the 2020

presidential election. >> one night in december 2020, i was about to put my son to bed, when dozens of individuals descended upon our home. -- going throughout the course of an hour, they stood outside my front door, waking my neighbors, shouting obscenity is and graphic threats into a bull horn. my son standing in our driveway picked up a stick, turned to me and said, don't worry mom, if the bad guys come again i'll get them with this. he's six years old. >> congress also warned that some senior election officials have been struggling to get security details from state police, which unfortunately, is becoming more important with all of the false election fraud conspiracies. the fbi tells cnn there's election crime coordinators position in every field office across the country to deal with potential threats. a deep red state saying no to abortion restrictions, what does this say about the post-roe america? senator amy klobuchar is here

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kansas votes overwhelmingly to protect abortion rights, the shocking result in the deep red state already changing the midterm landscape and with just months to go before november, congress has several key bills that could have a huge impact for the country. joining me right away to discuss, senator amy klobuchar of minnesota, so happy to have you on this evening. thank you, senator. >> thanks don. >> the voting in kansas is huge and has won with both democratic and republican votes. what message is kansas sending to the nation on abortion rights? >> the people of kansas, the sunflower state, turned out like no one thought possible. i think it's nearly double or more than double what it was in the last midterm election, don. and it wasn't just democrats,

as you say, independents, moderate republicans, they don't like the extremism. they believe, like i do, that women -- can make their own decision about the reproductive health care, not politicians, not ted cruz, not the republicans and the senate judiciary committee. they do not want them in their house. they want to make their own decisions. >> senator, let me ask you, >> go ahead on. >> could they just believe as well, that there should be some restrictions on abortion, but there shouldn't be an outright abortion? >> i think what was on the table for them, i don't know what they would think about restrictions or these things. i think what was on the table for them are they going to allow any kind of choice in reproductive health care, and when i look at what they were seeing, the extremism, i'm sure many of those voters heard about the ten year old i