>> thanks for watching. i'll be back tomorrow night. don lemon tonight starts right now. hey, don lemon. >> we are getting close. it's hump day. we can call it hump night. we have two more days and into the weekend, which we may have to work on anyway. one never knows, do one, in this business? >> i've already talked my lipstick off. so, i'm going home. that's the end of my contract. i don't have the guaranteed millions of the nfl, but when my lipstick is done, so am i. >> there's so much talk when it comes to the nfl and music. by the way, i saw the top of

your show, alex jones on the stand today, when he found out, he was like, do you know how we got your text messages? and he was, like what? >> man -- >> that was some you know what. >> if this script scripted, i would have been like, that's not gonna happen. but then you look back to the lawyers who were sort of like chewing on a thumb nail at that moment. i want to know what that conversation was like after, but not because i'm sympathetic in some way to somebody who would torture those families in sandy hook for so long. kyrgios is one thing but to catch him in the lie the way they did unbelievable. >> amazing to watch. thank you, laura. i'll see you tomorrow. have a good one. >> goodnight. this is don lemon tonight. we will have more on the fallout from the scandal over those other text messages they were talking about, those missing secret service texts. sources telling cnn the secret service may disable temporarily text messages or the firestorm over missing texts over january six. we'll have more about that in a moment. let's not forget that there are

more missing texts from key trump pentagon officials. this is the season of the missing texts, right? i've been saying this for a while. don't fall for the okey dokey. the old okey dokey. that's what they want you to fall for. they want to bamboozle you. remember the old any murphy -- remember what any murray said. a banana in the tail pipe? don't let anyone tell you that the threat from january sixth is over, and it's not, it's not about the past. it's about a cancer on our democracy, a cancer that has metastasized. it's a cancer of lies. you see it everywhere. there are the election deniers on the ballot, people who could be in positions of real power the next time. just last night arizona republicans lead chose a leading election denier in a as their nominee to oversee voting in a state that's been the target of election lies ever since it went for joe biden in 2020. it's all about the big lie. that as the federal criminal

investigation of january 6th moves deeper into the trump white house. first on cnn, patrick philbin, who was deputy white house counsel, has been subpoenaed by the doj. that after we learn, last night, that his boss, pat cipollone, was also subpoenaed. watch. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're gonna get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> we may learn a lot more soon. there are threats to election workers, top election officials warning senators that they are bracing for the worst with the midterms looming. and then there is the new york times reporting that to arizona republicans were so concerned about the fake electors plot that they fear that their actions could be seen as treason. fake electors. missing texts. election deniers on the ballot.

fears of treason. it all adds up to a clear and present danger to our democracy. the question is, as always, what are we going to do about it? show to cnn's jessica snider now with the latest on the scandal over those missing secret service texts. good evening jessica. thanks for joining us. tell us more about this services disabling text messaging. from their agents. what is going on here? >> this is an ongoing saga we have been covering for months. tonight we are actually learning the secret service is exploring the possibility of maybe suspending the use of texts temporarily, while they really fix the issues the way the text messages from the employees are backed up. so, our team has learned this because it is all being disclosed in a new memo from the secret service director. it's the latest sign that the secret service knows it needs to change some of its policies amid that backlash from those

revelations, the text messages from employees phones where waste from that crucial time period around january six. secret service has said it was just a routine phone replacement, but they still aren't giving all the answers that congress wants. the secret service previously said they will rely on their employees to backup their own phones, and obviously many of the employees, most of the employees didn't do that. now we've learned that the secret service is putting together a plan to make sure that records in the future are preserved, and while they are coming up with this plan, they may stop letting their employees text. but it's a possible plan right now. nothing definite. that is because they need to look into how this would affect the agency's work. for example, employees texts local police department. that would be a problem if they suddenly couldn't text. this is being looked at and it's all on the table that they might suspend this texting while they figure out the best path forward. but it has been a bit of a mess for the secret service, with all of these questions sir and

how they retain data. and now they're trying to come up with a way to fix it from the future. >> it's astounding that an agency that has the importance of the secret service, considering what they do, what their jobs are, that they don't have this official way to backup text messages, that may are relying on their employees, it is stunning to me. >> finally realizing they need a plan in place now. but a little late. >> what about the calls on the defense department, jessica? the inspector general to investigate missing texts from military leaders? where does that stand? >> the newest call tonight came from senator dick durbin, of course, chair of the senate judiciary committee. he wants the inspector general at the pentagon looking into this. the pentagon's responding, saying they understand that this is the request, they want to wait until they get the official letter request from durban. but durban wants the inspector general to look into the fact that the defense department wiped the phones of these top

d.o.d. officials after january 6th, and the concern here is that those phones held valuable information, valuable insight into why exactly it took hours to deploy the national guard to the capitol, and maybe how trump was or was not weighing in on that decision. now it appears those texts are gone and you combine that with the revelation over the past several weeks that the secret service texts are gone. it has members of congress asking for answers, and now they are pressing the pentagon inspector general to look into this, just as the dhs ig is looking for the missing secret service texts. here, don. a lot of questions. >> jessica, thank you very much. we appreciate that. i'm gonna bring in our nixon white house counsel john d. and white house prosecutor nick akerman. gentlemen, i'm so had happy to have you on. nick, let me ask you this. listening to jessica's reporting, is it stunning to you that there is a better way

the secret service has to backup the important work, text messages? they are responsible for the the leader of the free world, for the safety in the life of the leader of the free world. and they don't have an official way to backup information that they need? >> that's absolutely absurd. there is absolutely some skulduggery going on here. what most people don't realize is that the secret service was the agency that started doing cybersecurity investigations, and computer investigations, and they really are supposedly the experts in terms of understanding that the apology of the government programs and the networks that are out there, so to me this all sounds like a major cover-up. you just don't have the secret service losing text messages when there is a concern about whether or not trump trying to get mike pence out of the capitol the night of january 6th. you don't have messages missing

from homeland security when you know that there were calls made to homeland security about seizing voting machines. god knows what they were doing with the department of defense. it all really stinks to high heaven. >> john, let me bring you in to get your reaction about this new report. this isn't a fix for the deleted messages on january 6th, but what do you think about the move to disable texts to fix how they retain these messages? >> i think they ought to be getting answers and responding to congress about january 5th and sixth, which is missing before they start to work on there remedies or even announcing what they are doing. it sounds very premature. , don. so i don't know that i can give any guidance on this issue. >> nick, the bigger picture here. we've been talking about the missing texts from the secret service department homeland security.

and senior trump defense department officials. how does this look to you? it's a little weird. i don't want to be so sure on the air that there is something nefarious going on here, but it certainly does stink to high heaven. >> it's just too coincidental. as john will remember, there was talk during watergate, after the nixon tapes came out, that some people were saying, well, nixon should have destroyed all those tapes and he would've remained in office and never been impeached. well, the fact of the matter is, somebody may have done the same thing here. they may have realized that the information on these text messages is so damning that they had to get rid of them for january 5th and six and it was better to do that and hope that nobody discovered what they did or who did it. we just don't know. but it really requires a very

[inaudible] into all three agencies by somebody who really understands cybersecurity and computers. >> okay, let's just say that, we don't know if that happened, but you're bringing up, you're bringing it up here, so let's say that scenario happened. john dean. that's pretty serious. what are the consequences for something like that happening, a government agency doing something like that? >> if they have deliberately destroyed this material they probably all were given notice to obtain evidence. i don't know if the january 6th committee did that. but it's very likely, because we know some of those agencies were put on notice. the fact that they knew that they were to preserve this evidence and let it disappear, as it has, is not going to cut it. we also know that the inspectors general have been sitting on this information for quite awhile.

this raises more suspicions. we have lots of reasons to be concerned, and no answers. if this was a grand jury, or if this were the watergate era, even, and you had a judge who as soon as tapes were missing, inexplicably missing, parts of them, he hauled everybody into the court. he got right to the bottom of it. we came up with the famous explanation by rosemary woods that she believes she had accidentally erased 18 and a half minutes of a tape. well that just came right out in the courtroom and prove she actually could not have done what she said she did. we don't have that advantage right now, but this is too conspicuous, don, that they're not gonna get the answer at some point. i don't think you can get away with this today. evidence can be tracked and and traced. so i think they will get to the bottom. >> let's just say, john, this was in front of a normal --

proceeding, and the person who was the defendant was saying, this happened, this happened, this happened, all these things were erased. don't you think the other side would be like, look, we win, because you guys got rid of the evidence. am i wrong? >> well that's very possible. yes, you can default if you destroy evidence, certainly in a civil case. in a criminal -- >> [inaudible] >> yes, well, if it's whipping it's probably another crime. if it is unwitting, for example, we have alex jones with his text suddenly showing up and opposing attorneys possession. that's a very interesting situation. he seemed baffled by it. but it proved he lied. they're not gonna be able to get around that. so these things can play out in ways we never expect. >> nick, let's move on and talk about the new york times, the

times tonight reporting that john eastman sent an email to rudy giuliani two weeks after january 6th, arguing that they should sue in georgia to keep searching for fraud that he acknowledged he fails to find. he knew that there was no proof, that this was a baseless claim of widespread voter fraud. >> of course. they all knew that. even rudy giuliani told randi bowers that they had a lot of great theories and no evidence. this is the guy who was the speaker of the house in arizona. this whole thing was a tactic to basically try and put trump into office and to stop the peaceful transfer of power. i don't think anybody could seriously say that any of these people could really believe that in fact there was any kind of fraud out there. you know right from the get-go, when trump first ran in a from

publican primary, he had roger stone create the stop the steal problem, which, again, began back in 2016 in the republican primaries. the only reason we didn't hear more about it was because trump won the primaries and eventually won the presidency. but the moment he lost, this was his technique to claim that the election was stolen [inaudible] >> the times we are living, and gentlemen, thank you very, much i appreciate it. voters in a red state in the middle of the country turning out in droves to support abortion rights. are they sending a message to a post roe america? >> the people of kansas spoke yesterday. and they spoke loud and clear. they said this is not a partisan issue. the women of america should not be the subject of partisan debate or perspective. hootie & the blowfish] discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish]

so last night we are here reporting on what was happening in kansas and really all over the election is around the country. but kansas voters sending a message loud and clear last night, overwhelmingly rejecting an amendment that would've said there was no right to an abortion in that state. and that's already sending political shockwaves ahead of the november midterms. let's discuss now, a lot to discuss, with cnn political political commentators and navarro commentators and a nova and -- stewart. good evening to you. miss navarro, we're gonna start with you. this is a state that trump carried by 15 points in 2020.

last night, the pro-choice side one 58% of the vote. that means a lot of republicans had to go out and vote for this. why? >> because republicans like their rights as well. because republicans have young girls, young doctors who get pregnant as well. because republicans have mistresses. be because this is not an issue that is one side of the other. and because this is an issue where people have had rights for 50 years. and taking out a right is one of the most difficult things you can do after people have gotten used to that right. listen -- and i think part of what was so shocking in kansas yesterday. this is a state that has not voted for a democrat for president -- >> for president -- >> in all of our lifetime. our, you, and me. we were not alive in 1964 when

lbj -- >> you want to live, right? >> i was a [inaudible] , i was almost alive. >> -- that's the shocking part. the numbers. >> you know the republican party. you worked in republican circles. you were a republican strategist. you know how republicans feel about abortion. >> there are congress people right now, republican u.s. congress people, who wear we're antiabortion, who, it was revealed, had sent their girlfriends to have abortions. so the hypocrisy, the hypocrisy by so many people who are making these laws. and i'm not referring to [inaudible] , because that's not who i'm referring to. but there are many, many people who are incredibly double-faced and hypocritical when it comes to this. >> alice, what do you think about the results? turnout was huge for a primary in this red slate, and these red state voters sent a pretty clear message here. >> it was. it was really a wake up call

for the pro-life community in terms of making sure that we don't rest on our laurels in terms of what we have accomplished in the pro-life movement. let's take a step back. the pro-life community has been working to overturn roe v. wade ever since its inception, for 50 years. and that is been a huge focus. once that was overturned, this was the first litmus test, the first opportunity for voters in the pro-choice community and the pro-life community to really galvanize people. needless to say, when roe is overturned in the dobbs case was handed down, the pro-choice community came out in droves. they were angry, they were frustrated, they were organized. and what we had in kansas, we look at the numbers, the fund raising numbers, 99% of the money that was put into kansas to turn out the vote was from out of state. so we have a lot of out of state people galvanizing to turn out the vote to really making an example in kansas. clearly, republicans also voted

no on this issue to keep things as they were. but this was a good litmus test. but when i've seen since this came down, the last 24 hours, i can assure you, those in the pro-life community are doubling down and refocusing efforts to put more pro life legislators at the state level. but also to reinforce the issue -- in terms of making sure pro life candidates are front and center on the ballot. and we work to preserve the sanctity of life at the state -- >> alice, let me ask you this -- >> the most important thing we want, don, and you know this, ever since we first started talking about this, that the point here is to take this decision out of the hands of nine elected justices and put it at the state level. i don't like the results yesterday, but if that's what we're gonna see state after after state after state, i will stand back and applaud the fact -- >> that's my question. let me jump in here. i only have so much time. then what you are seeing, then,

is that -- what i'm seeing is that the pro-life movement is then out of touch with the majority of americans, including republicans. and what you're saying is, you will put people in place, which is basically minority i will, put people in place who are not in step with the republican party, right? with the big tent -- supposedly -- of the republican party -- a majority, i should say, of the republican party -- because you want -- un the pro-life movement -- want something that most people don't want. how is that okay? >> don, that's not what i'm saying. that's exactly what i'm not saying. but i'm saying is, if this is the will of the people, if what we saw in kansas becomes a litmus test -- >> i know you said that, but then he said we are going to work even harder to put pro-life people in positions to be able to make these things happen. because you are unhappy with happened last night. >> we are going to galvanize pro-life voters across the

country to elect pro-life legislators. and if there aren't enough pro-life voters to galvanize and encourage that, that's not the will of the people. don. i think what makes this country great is a democracy -- best handled by people closest to the electorate in this country. and if the majority of people do not like these laws, and would much rather support pro-choice, i am for that. i happen to be pro-life. i would appreciate and support pro-life laws and legislation. but if that's not well of the people, and that's not what we should have. and that's plain and simple. -- >> it's not the will of the people, time after time, every poll, it's not the majority of the will of the american people. but the supreme court date was impose their religious values on the american people. and i think people are reacting to that. and yes, a lot of the money that went to kansas came from out of state.

but the votes were very much from instate. the votes were from kansas. when i think it shows is, i think republicans have grossly misjudged the level of anger and outrage and the ability of people to maintain that outreach. the question i have is, is that same level going to go through november? i think part of it is, it's being fueled by these horrible consequences, these stories of the ten year old girl that was raped and impregnated and couldn't get an abortion. the stories of women with dead babies inside who can't get a dmc. but stories of people who are afraid that they can't get ivf. the stories of doctors being prosecuted. all these things, i think, are sinking into the american psyche. but the effects and consequences of this overturning are far reaching. the fear that gay people have when it comes to the sanctity or legality of their marriage,

those are real fears and are driving people to the polls. >> but did you understand my point, that i was trying to, make with alice? she was saying, okay, well the pro-life movement will just continue to work harder to put pro-life legislators. but the pro-life legislators are not what most republicans and most people in the country want? >> yeah. i do, but one of the things that was interesting to me, when this decision came down, there were actually very few republicans and so-called pro-life legislators who were celebrating the decision. alice was celebrating the decision. but most of them were talking about state rights and instead we are talking about other things not really celebrating the decision. because they finally caught the bus. because they finally caught the bus. they have been using this -- >> [inaudible] >> i'm from nicaragua, it's a bus. there's a small section, a pro-life community, committed, who wanted to overturn it. for many, many other republicans, this has been a

political pawn. a wedge issue to be used to bring out the base. but did they really want all of this to happen? i don't know. i think the american public are having a very strong reaction to the idea of no separation between church and state, which is such a bastion and a pillar of our constitution and our democracy. ron desantis signed the abortion ban in florida inside of pentecostals church. what? what? >> thank you both. how long have be been working to get a? four is it ten years? >> less than 1964. >> alice, we've been together about seven years. i know quite well how you feel about abortion, and you said that's the reason why people stopped with donald trump, even through all his antics. thank you both very much. this conversation will continue. let's talk about alex jones taking the stand in the defamation lawsuit against. him but his own lawyers are behind the days big bombshell. wait till you see this. >> mr. jones, did you know that

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>> really stunning scenes in a texas courtroom today. conspiracy theorists alex jones finally admitting the sandy hook school shooting that killed -- actually happened. a huge bombshell. the lawyers for the family of jesse lewis, one of the children murdered in the shooting, obtaining years of jones's texts, of his phone records, i should say, and sharing them in court. watch how it unfolded. >> mr. jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and they sent me an entire digital copy

of your entire cell phone, with every text message you have sent for the past two years. and when informed, they did not take any steps to identified as privileged or protected in any way. and as of today's, go infill free and clear in my possession. that's how i know you lied to me when you said you didn't send text messages about sandy hook. did you know that? >> see, i told you the truth. this is your perry mason moment. i gave you my phone and then -- >> mr. jones, you need to answer the question. [inaudible] -- >> i told you, i gave him the phone. >> wow. this trial is the first three that will determine how much jones will have to pay multiple sandy hook families who sued him and won over his lies. joining me now, drew griffin, cnn legal analyst joey jackson. good evening. i mean, drew, jaw-dropping. i couldn't believe it was true,

what i was seeing with my own eyes. that was a huge bombshell in court. what do sandy hook family lawyers want to prove with these text messages? >> i think, first and foremost, the obvious, reiterating what the jury has already seen in this trial, that alex jones is a liar. alex jones lies about just about everything. but beyond that, he also, and the attorney, marc bankston, wanted to show the jury why they are here at this point, only determining what kind of damages or the penalty phase of this, not whether or not alex jones defamed these parents. that was already decided by a judge. it was decided by a judge by default, because for years alex jones has failed to comply with discovery in this case. part of the discovery was alex jones saying he had no text on his phone related to sandy hook. well, boom you, lied, here they

are, they have him in his possession. shows you are a liar. it shows the jury again, why they are here only deciding the penalty portion of this trial. >> joey jackson, let's begin dig in on these phone records. because this isn't the only case jones is involved in. what is this huge mistake before the other lawsuits? >> i think it does quite a bit. don, good evening to you and drew. the reality is, under cross examination what you do as an attorney is, you get out the truth. and when you attack someone with specific documents and information relative to what you denied, no, i don't have any text messages that relate to anything that i opined about, spoke about, communicated about, or denied, as related to sandy hook, and then you find two years worth of text messages that expose, in essence, that you do have multiple text messages. you have discussed this issue you have discussed it with multiple parties on multiple occasions through multiple

months and through two years, it really just opens up a can of worms. to be clear to what drew was speaking to, this is what is called the damages section. the determination was made already as to his liability. you cannot say whatever you want in this country, regardless of what he believes. it has to be true. whether it impairs the reputation of something like this is beyond the pale. i think now that people know it exists, don, it certainly opens him up to those other families that he has to account for as it relates to the damages to them for the many lives he told them regarding sandy hook. >> i hope other conspiracy theorists and election deniers are taking note of this. because if it ever ends up in court something like this could happen to them as well. so drew, the jury has the case now. they're going to decide damages, the damages jones will have to pay. what does he say about this on the stand? >> it was interesting. there was a point -- this judge takes questions from the jury and then reads it to jones or reads it to two other witnesses, in this case.

but today it was jones. they asked the question directly. this was a question that was posed by one of the jurors. and take a listen to what jones's response was. >> right now the question is, what compensation would be appropriate? >> any compensation above $2 million will sink us. >> no, no, no. appropriate not to you. appropriate for what happened to them. >> i think it's appropriate for whatever you decide you want to do. >> this whole trial, jones has tried to slip in how he is going to be the victim. how this is going to ruin him. how this is going to bankrupt him, et cetera. a dollar amount? his attorneys, jones's attorneys, say the jury should award the plaintiffs in this case $1 for each claim and that would be $8. >> okay [laughs]

interesting. and it's kind of late for him to play the victim now. at one point, joey, a clip was played where jones talked about the jury on his own show. >> yeah, a lot of people are [ a week to the new world order. but they are experts in leftist jurisdictions in sending out jury summons and hitting, let's just say this, extremely blue-collar folks. i mean, half that jury panel does not know who i am. >> how does a jury react to that, joey? >> so, like anyone else, don, when you have someone who obviously is misrepresenting the truth, when you have someone who has said some things that are beyond the pale about something that affected so many lives and so many people, when you have someone who is insulting the people who ultimately are making a determination, they're human. i think to the extent he has

been discredited, to the extent he has been outrageous in his assertions, to the extent he has been found to be untruthful, it resonated resonates clearly with that jury. i would expect the damage award of astronomical proportions. we know, of course, he's gone into bankruptcy and attempted to find loopholes to avoid it, but i think that something biggest counting and something big is coming soon, don, in terms of a monetary amount of an award to families who suffered dearly as those who suffered as a result of this is statements. >> a game-changer of all the conspiracy theories will have to face such consequences. thank you both. i appreciate it. be sure you join drew griffin as he talks with people who know alex jones. the new cnn special report, megaphone for conspiracy, alex jones. it airs friday, 11 pm. make sure you tune into that. again, my thanks to joey and drew. when election denier running for governor of arizona, already casting doubt on her own race. we have the latest results, live from arizona. that's next.

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they are still counting the votes in arizona's republican primary for governor, that's not stopping one candidate from questioning the result. kyung lah, live for us in phoenix. hello, back to you in arizona, again, for the reporting, the republican primary race for governor so close to call. tell us more about where that stands right now. >> it is razor-thin. you have less than two percentage points separating kari lake, the file right far-right firebrand, and karrin taylor robson, the establishment republican. we just got a few more ballots from maricopa county, and they didn't move the needle all that much. it was just several thousand ballots, basically we're seeing the same margins -- as we march on, night by night,

we are expecting, don, at some point though, the early votes that were hand delivered on election day that still have to have those ballots signature verified -- eventually, those will be counted. that's more than 100,000 ballots and that could really move the needle. >> let's talk about kari lake. she is trump backed. despite currently being on top, she's still saying there may be fraud. what's that about? >> pull out your pencil and let's see if you can connect the dots of this logic here. basically, what she is saying is that she still believes in the 2020 election lie -- and by the way, she held victory press conference even though she hasn't won yet and the race hasn't been called by any organization. and she says that there was fraud in this election as well. she didn't give any evidence. but here is what she said. take a listen. >> we outvoted the fraud. we didn't listen to what's the fake news had to say.

the maga movement rose up and voted like their lives depended on it. >> and lake, of course, gone, says that if she lost their had to have been cheating. she has been saying that for two weeks leading up to the election. so i don't know if you still have that pencil handy or -- basically, she's a racing parts of logic where it is comfortable and where it hasn't made sense and where works for her campaign. as we stand, right now, there is a very small margin of the votes that have been officially counted for both of these candidates, again. that small margin, less than 2%, don. >> she said all the right words for the election deniers. and the sort of fringe maga people, blamed the media, the fake news, blah, blah, blah. but this is what i don't understand, when you say get out your pencil. because when i went to bed last night she was behind, much as joe biden was behind. right?

in 2020. and then when the votes, the day, of that they counted all those ballots, when we woke up this morning -- was ahead. kari lake was ahead. -- what is the difference between kari lake and joe biden? how does joe biden's fraudulent and her is not fraudulent -- >> explain that. >> again, don, you are using logic. [laughs] we are talking about the same system, the same paper. >> the exact same thing happened! >> the same! the exact same, the exact same. and i'm so sorry to get animated here. but i feel like i'm on repeat. people who have been watching these elections, you know, wherever we are. yeah, it's the same. it's the same. it's just the victor that is different here. and who it is convenient for. >> boy oh boy. [laughs] and people believe it. wow. thank you kyung, stay safe, see

you soon. >> thank you. >> testifying the fbi isn't built to handle all the threats in her last month against election officials. so, what will happen come the midterms?

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>> a stark warning heading into the midterms, ahead of a national election officials group telling congress today the fbi lacks the full picture of reported threats to election workers. here is part of her testimony. -- common refrain here i hear from my members is, no one is going to take this seriously until something bad happens and we are all braced for the worst. michigan secretary of state joscelyn benson testifying as well, fighting back tears, we're counting aggressive protests as she oversaw the 2022 presidential election. >> when, night in the summer 2020, i was about to put my sound of edwin dozens of individuals descended on our home. growing in numbers over the

course of an hour, they stood outside my front door, waking my neighbors, shouting obscenities and graphic threats into bullhorns. not long ago, my son, standing in our driveway, picked up a stick, turned to me and said, don't worry mom, if the bad guys come again, i will get them with this. he is six years old. >> congress also warned that some senior election officials have been struggling to get security details from state police, which unfortunately is becoming more important with all of the false election fraud conspiracies. the fbi tells cnn it is election crime coordinators position in every field office across the country to deal with potential threats. a deep red state saying, no two abortion restrictions. what does this say about the post-roe america? senator amy klobuchar is here with me next.

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can this photo parolee to protect abortion, rights the shocking result in the deep red state already changing the midterm landscape. and with just months to go before november, congress has several key bills that could have huge impact for the country. so, join me right away to joining me right away to discuss discuss, senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. we're happy to have you on this evening. thank you, senator. >> thank you, don. >> the vote in kansas is huge and was one with both democratic and republican votes. what message is kansas sending to the nation on abortion rights? >> the people of kansas, the sunflower state, turned out like no one thought possible. i think it's nearly double -- more than double -- what it was in the last midterm election, don. and it wasn't just democrats. as you say, independents, moderate republicans, they don't like the extremism. they believe, like i do, that women should be able to make

their own decisions about their reproductive health care. not politicians, not ted cruz, not the republicans on the senate judiciary committee. they do not want them in their house. and they want to make their own decisions. >> senator, let me ask you could they just believe as well that there should be some restrictions on abortions but there shouldn't be an outright ban on abortion? >> i think what was on the table for them, i don't know what they would think about restrictions or various things. i think what was on the table for them was really are they going to allow any kind of choice in reproductive health care. and when i look at what they were seeing, the extremism, i'm sure many of those voters heard about the 10-year-old in ohio that had -- couldn't even get an abortion after being raped and then had to -- went to indiana, brought to indiana and