behind the scenes and reveal how our crews battled the elements. to film the animals and the people who live in one of the wildest places on earth. >> stay still. you don't run. in bruce lee's second film, "fists of fury," there is a part where he beats up a group of japanese karate guys. oh, don't worry, they definitely had it coming. one reason is they had given bruce's kung fu school a gift. the gift was a plaque that read -- well, after bruce beats

them, he looks at them in their crumpled piles and says "we are not sick men." as a kid in the '80s, when i saw that, hoo, i felt it. i wasn't chinese. i had no idea of the history of japan and china, but as a black kid in america i understood the need to stand up to your oppressors. and just since the beginning i understand that all people's struggles are connected. it felt like me and bruce were the same. of course, he meant way more to asian americans than he meant to me. but bruce's fights onscreen were nothing compared to his fights offscreen, a fight for representation in media, a fight to end racism by teaching martial arts to everybody, a fight to stand up for his people. >> anti-asian attacks and hate crimes as we know have been rising sharply thinking episode is about how asian americans are still fighting those fights. >> no more hate! ♪

>> is it happening? >> it's happening. >> oh my god. >> that's mine. don't touch it. >> i think we're eating family-style. >> that's mine, don't touch it. >> okay. >> oh you knew what end of the table i was at. the pork shrimp and the pate potato tato. >> as a tv host, you often call people your friend, even if they're not really your friend. but it's a way for us hosts to signal to the audience this person, they're good people.

well, on this episode, you're actually going to meet some of my real friends. so let's start with one of my best friend, kuri. one of my favorite people. he speaks truth to power because he doesn't know any other way. >> people always say you're obsessed with race. you're obsessed with racism. you can't be obsessed with racism in america. saying i'm obsessed with race and racism in america is like saying i'm obsessed with swimming when i'm drowning, you know what i mean? >> i would say hari is one part winnie the pooh, one part piglet, and you know it, another part eyeore. have you ever had dessert somewhere and there was an unexpected flavor in it like jalapenos? that's sophia chang. take her book title "the baddest bitch in the house" now strabl on amazon. >> reporter: sophia is fierce, hilarious and committed to uplifting her people. and for a woman at various

points has managed members of the wu tang clan, she describes the people who brought her most. jenny yang is a stand-up comic i followed for years on twitter. her career got a boost when she engaged in dunking on andrew yang. >> the coronavirus has a lot of americans scared of americans. so andrew yang says we can't make them be less racist. we just have to be more american. >> it was after andrew wrote this op-ed, and jenny went off, hilariously. >> i'm really good at saying woo. i like to ask for ranch dressing where every i go. will you not hate crime me? >> i'm a yang, and i felt like it was within my right to criticize a fellow yang. >> yes, yes. >> you want a block of cold tofu? >> not normally a block of cold tofu person type, but growing up, we definitely had chinese and thai food.

>> asian food is definitely the greatest presence of representation for asian america. >> 245 word representation, what has it meant to you? >> i feel like representation just the beginning, but it's a very powerful beginning, because it's imagery and stories that help to tell us what's possible and to help us feel how we want to feel, even if our material reality doesn't match that. >> were there any asian american things in media that you were sort of focused on then that you look back and go that was all we had? you know what i'm saying? maybe now it doesn't look the same. >> i wasn't that politicized when i was a kid. but i do know when i saw mad tv representation, this isn't it, miss swan? >> oh, no, look, i dropped something. oh, no, no, no. uh-oh. >> ah, yellow face, the hollywood tradition of casting white actors in asian roles. >> call the police department! >> it goes all the way back to the early days of hollywood up through basically the current

days of hollywood. >> someth of you might have hea, but i did make a documentary, apoo from the simpsons. >> voiced by hank azaria, a white guy. >> thank you, come again. >> that was all south asians had in terms of a regular presence. it was this cartoon character on "the simpsons" played by a white guy. initially it was excitement. we exist to white people now. white people know we're here. after a while, it's oh, it's to make fun of us. but initially you're just glad you're invited to the party. >> even if your invitation to the party is not one of you. >> exactly, right. >> the problem with apoo kicked off a worldwide discussion and kicked off death threats at hari. it also led me to get into a twitter fight with a producer from the simpsons.

ah, hollywood dreams come true. other white voice actors gave up the roles they have taken from people of color, harry never got the credit for kicking off the discussion. he just got the death threats. >> i know it makes sense, but it feels like the right thing to do. >> erasure. >> independently, i came up with the idea that this is a bad idea. >> right. >> you broke down a wall, right? you have established there is now a dmz. nobody is going to do that [ bleep ] again. >> to me that's why representation isn't just what's on the screen. when you go up the screen, who's making the decisions? because ultimately, as long as the gatekeepers are white folks who even if they're well-in well-intentioned, don't fully get it, don't know when to stand up for you, this stuff is going keep happening. to me, diversification means diversification of power. >> yes.

>> i got lots of friends at all levels doing just that, and they ain't new to this work. they been doing it. uh-oh. >> oh. >> oh, wow. >> aren't you a vegetarian? >> no! when i got to cnn, there was one person in the original series gang that i was intimidated by, lisa ling, because she is an actual journalist, and i just play one on tv. >> as someone who has worked in this business for a long time, the seismic shift that has happened in a very short period of time, just the last couple of years alone, i never thought i would see. >> yeah. >> lisa has succeeded at all levels. it's an honor to be associated with her. helen, from the first time i met her, i was just like this. >> some people you meet and you immediately know you want to be their friend. that was me with helen. i'm not sure it was helen with me. >> can you go to a wide shot,

two shot? can you cut a single shot? just cut him. >> helen has worked in the tv industry for over ten years. >> helen, do you like this stuff? >> you might be familiar with her work. >> i was very grateful that you gave me a shot at directing. i had been producing for so many years. and it wasn't until you demanded that there's diversity in are front and behind the camera and encouraged me to direct. >> and now she is the show runner on lisa's new show, "takeout." it's a crash course on asian american culture masquerading as a food show. >> but, you know, it came out when she came could run our show together, she hired all asian american directors. >> i saw some of those pictures. i know you don't get an all asian crew by accident. just like you don't get an all black camera true krewe by acccrew by accident. >> i read your bio.

it's a bio any parent would be proud of. bing chin lives in the future. when he was a bigwig at youtube, he saw it coming and made sure that influencers got paid for it. asian americans get all the representation they want and more. >> the best i got when i was a kid is walt disney makes dreams come true. how do you make that true? >> it starts with goal house, his nonprofit collective of asian american leaders that basically makes sure when asian media comes out, people are looking for it. >> we're looking at the asian diaspora for the majority of the world. we're the fastest growing population in this country. and yet we are the most objectified in media. so there is this clear disparity. i think the imperative for an institution like goal house goes to the age old adage, you can either take a house or you can build your own house. >> one of its first big successes was getting the word out about "crazy rich asians".

>> the question is how do we ensure this is successful? because the film right now is going to underperform. we said all right. we're going get everyone together in a way they never have. >> for years, black folks have encouraged people to support black movies by buying out theaters. because in hollywood, if a movie has a big opening weekend, more movies like that get made. that means more representation. goal house borrowed that idea for the opening of "crazy rich asians" and it worked, to the tune of almost $240 million. thinking movie is making history. >> a summer blockbuster, "crazy rich asians." >> seeing what gold house did for "crazy rich asians," really, it's showing the power that the community has. >> i had some concerns. is this the movie we want to promote? exactly, exactly. crazy rich asians? how i justified it was it was still a love story.

and you never saw asians in rom-coms. so many of us who have been in the business for a long time have sort of felt like we've been the only one climbing up this ladder. and it was a very lonely ladder. so to know that there are organizations now taking it upon themselves, right, to promote and to build infrastructure. the fact that we're having this conversation right now for television, you know, means we're moving in the right direction. >> yeah. >> "united shades of america" is sponsored by ally. do it right. go to dc universe.com/milestone to learn how ally and dc are championing the next generation of black and diverse comic creators. so we need something super disctintive.

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♪ a lot of my understanding of the asian american community in an adult way comes through my relationship with hari. and it was the first time i ever understood south asian as being a part of the broader asian diaspora. you're talking about south asian comedians. how about southeast asian? and he goes no, no, no, south asian is different. hold on a second. i'd only heard the term southeast asia. maybe somewhere in my brain, they keep leaving out the word "east." let me help you.

>> this is jackson heights, queens. >> we have talked about you bringing me here for a long time. >> my schedule is free. this part of jackson heights is little india. it's really little south asian now. so many diverse cultures. one thing they have in common is they love gold. you'll see lots of sari shops like silk saris. obviously lots of restaurants. basically, spice, gold, silk. this is what was looking for. it was jackson heights. >> the rewriting of america's immigration laws in 1965 opened the door for educated and skilled professionals, and a new wave of south asians reached the shores of new york city looking for some of that american dream they heard about but isn't actually here all the time for everybody. >> back in the '70s and '80s when my parents moved here,

jackson heights was it for people in like new york, new jersey, connecticut. it was like station one of the diaspora. >> the term asian american has radical roots. it was created by student activist yuji ukioka and emma gi to create a broader community. it was a way of saying look, back in our motherlands, we may have had some problems with each other, but here we have a common enemy, american racism. the asian american identity, there is this constant who is included this? >> ooh, yeah. so here's the thing. for some reason, we had the americans' u.s. census. they decided it needs to be asian american, native hawaiian, and pacific islander all in one because our numbers were so low. >> yes. >> literally, it's a bureaucratic decision that made us all come together. >> to make it worthy of counting you, we need this bucket to be bigger? >> and nnhpi.

who the -- talks like that? i feel like as a reaction we had to unite around it or really hate each other. when you're not in power, you have to form coalitions. you to have power in numbers. >> as the asian american community grew in numbers and geographical diversity, the term also had to evolve. asian american, native hawaiian and pacific islander. that's a mouthful. it represents everyone from recent immigrants to indigenous folks to people whose families have lived in the u.s. for over 150 years. the term define morse than 20 million people in the united states, with roots in over 50 countries and about 25,000 islands in the pacific ocean. hoo! >> you know, i think the term asian american, south asian american, they're political terms, right? they're terms of power. and that is our way of coalition building and creating something. >> as a community, we are still figuring it out.

what's the language you're going use to describe our experience, because we're so diverse. one of the things that was a huge sort of asian american political victory in california in recent years, the state legislature agreed to disaggregate the state data. disaggregate the data means i will count you simply if you are indian, sri lankan, bangladeshi, chinese, whatever. that was just recently. the political victory for asian americans was literally disaggregate the data, disaggregate the data! that's how behind we are. >> it almost feels racist, disaggregate the data. >> just count us simply. that's where we're at. just or very existence hasn't been acknowledged yet. es while . plus avocado, olive and shea. change a little, or a lot. nutrisse. nourished hair. better color. by garnier, naturally!

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they've worked their way past column as and column bs, past no start, please to become our nation's model minority. >> is it because they're naturally smarter or because they're trying harder? >> who things that don't age well, old jokes and old news takes. all right. let's talk about the myth of the so-called model minority. america has made it clear to asians that black people are on the very bottom. and with that comes the directive, don't be like them.

scholars say the myth was first used on japanese americans who were scared of being put back into camps post internment. that means you assimilate, keep your head down, and never complain. and for all that, you get rewarded with being a quote, unquote model minority. which is way for white supremacy to say thanks for making domination easy on us. >> you're a model minority. i'm going to sell t-shirts that say [ bleep ] your model minority on them. >> it restricts our identity. it doesn't let us be our fuller selves. but the fact it exists as a weapon against black people. if we're the model, who's not the model? >> yep. >> after the 1965 hartseller immigration act was passed, prioritizing doctors and engineers, the model minority myth perpetuated the myth that these new americans could succeed by pulling themselves up

by the bootstraps despite the reality of systemic racism. this created a situation where america could point at asians and say hey, black people, why can't you just be more like them? i don't know. hundreds of years of systemic oppression? can't even get a bank loan? >> what is the game? the game is white supremacy. the game is divide and conquer. oh, shit, if we get them hating on them, oh, our work is done here. >> even if southeast asians and black people are the same shade, but white people have decided for whatever reason, visas, higher education status, that you were closer to whiteness. >> yes. it's racial triangulation, right? you have whiteness up here. so black people are seen as inferior to whites. and we're seen as okay, you're not inferior to whites, but you'll never be american. >> right. >> you'll never be here because you have that restriction. whatever way you play it, you're never going to be white. >> the model minority myth also

creates the false idea that asian americans are just generally doing well. meanwhile, they have the largest wealth gap in new york city. >> asian americans have some of the highest poverty rates in all of new york. nearly one in four asian americans live below the poverty line. >> the rich are really rich. but the poor are really poor. and those folks need representation too. i'm not talking hollywood. i'm talking about representation in the halls of power, politics. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the best chai in town. yeah, cheers. >> julie won is a newly elected queens councilmember, and she is here for those people. >> we're in an area in the city called dutch hills or astoria. this area is working class imimmigrants. so we have a huge filipino

population. i have japanese americans, chinese americans, bengali americans and the himalayan population as well. i grew up in korea, and then i moved here with my family, and my parents went from working white collar jobs like my mom was a culinary professor and then she went to being a nail salon technician. >> so you represent the kind of asian americans who grew up in this neighborhood. >> exactly. >> i think of neighborhoods like this being gentrified and being formerly ethnic neighborhoods, but the opposite is happening. >> there is a misconception because you see the fancy high-rises from across the river from manhattan. and actually, when you look deeper, you have queens bridge houses, which is the largest public housing unit in america that get overshadowed by the high prices. the model minority myth is extremely hurtful because in my district especially, people believe that it's all lawyers and doctors, and they're wealthy and they're doing well. but then two blocks down you

have families who are waiting online for two hours to get groceries from the usda. when covid hit, i'll go and do meal deliveries, and i start to see certain children using their phones, like their parents' phones or ipad at a bus stop. i didn't understand what was happening. and i start to talk to them. hey, what are you waiting for? you just missed the same bus four times. >> yeah. >> and the little girl, she looked up at me. she is shh, i'm in school. and that's when i realized especially in the public housing units and lower income families, the parents couldn't afford wifi. and they were using public wifi beacons outside that you can use for free. >> and you're outside. >> yeah. >> in the weather. >> yes. >> in the cold. >> yep. >> oh, man. >> so that's how i ended up running for office. >> so instead of like being on the outside going the government is messing up. >> yeah.

>> there is this idea that asian americans are more successful. but aren't we often talking about certain types of asian americans. we're not talking about asian americans overall. >> it's the true cliche of the tale of two cities. for example, crazy rich asians i think really reinforced the model minority myth for asian americans. i do not want people to misunderstand the asian american experience. it is amazing to have a movie that showcases all asian american cast? of course. but do i wish that it went into more depth of our struggles, of our experiences, of what our current contentions are in this society and country? yes. and i think that actress sandra oh always says it's an honor to be asian. it is an honor to be asian. i am thankful to be asian, and i'm glad we have our representation, but we can continue to do better. and replace your windshield. >> grandkid: here you go! >> tech: wow, thank you! >> customer and grandkids: bye! >> tech: bye!

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dude? but of all the weird, troubling, petty, mean things president trump did, this was among the most recklessly harmful. >> kung flu. >> and at a time when americans felt scared for our lives and we needed to figure out ways to pull together, trump found a way to pull us apart. >> the world is suffering from this china virus. >> and that energy led to a spike in hate crimes against the asian community. >> in 2020 an asian man sprayed with a cleaning product, a filipino man's face slashed. >> it's happening every time you turn around. >> asian americans are under siege. >> and often the people who committed this violence targeted the most vulnerable. >> so we're tracking the latest developments. >> a shooting rampage at three spas in the atlanta metro area tuesday. >> six out of the eight victims are asian women. >> fbi director christopher wray

says he does not think race played a role. others are not as convinced. >> when the atlanta shootings happened, and it was very clear that east asian women were being targeted, hoo, boy. before i needed to know the details, i knew what it was, because i have seen that level of obsession and violence before. those aunties that got hurt, those sisters that got hurt, they were me. they were the people i cared about. and i was working in a writer's room. and one of the older white men immediately started pontificating about it. and he said well, they're saying it's this sort of racism, but that doesn't make any sense. it's obvious this white kid had a lot of issues with his religion. he felt a lot of confusion because he wasn't supposed to desire asian women. >> he was fed up, he was at the end of his rope and yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did.

>> that to me is that's -- upped. this is how -- upped it still is. i'm getting to a point if i'm telling you my lived experience that you will acknowledge it and believe me, even if you have never lived that experience. just because you didn't live it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. wow. to me, it upsets me that it's still so revolutionary to have that happen. >> look, anti-asian sentiment in america ain't new. in 1882, the u.s. created the chinese exclusion act. hoo, they didn't even try to hide the racism. it was america's first law that restricted immigration based on race. and it was supported by propaganda that claimed that immigrant chinese labors were bringing in diseases to white america and stealing jobs. sound familiar? asians across the country were kicked out of their homes, killed, and even lynched in the name of america. as history repeats itself, like

it does, he is using values he learned as a xiaolin monk to deal with racism. >> we start, we say -- that means buddha bless you. we say god bless you in the western world. >> i'll take buddha. >> i first heard about him sheila fang's book. he is a fourth generation xiaolin warrior for reals. >> it's not kung fu. kung fu is respect. it's love. it's courage. it's discipline. >> herbie ku is one of her main students. he has been learning kung fu for seven years. >> we wanted to start a move, kung fu not flu. it's a transformational art. for it to be used in a derogatory manner to perpetuate

asian hate was not something that we could accept. >> you know this guy. bo kingwoodby. you may not know him, he is one of those actors in everything. i started training with shifu in 234 1999. >> it's more about punches and kicks? >> absolutely. in the 21st century, so much challenges. and divided. divided. we need a bridge together. >> i think right now when we think about asians in america. >> yes. >> we can't help but think about the hate that asians often experience in this country. have you experienced any of that, the anti-asian sentiment? >> one time we walk on the street next to the park. guys, i say come on, brothers, respect yourself. come on, man.

>> come on, man? >> you used that new york talk. come on, man. i love the fact you put it back on them, you need to respect yourself. that is some classic redirect the energy. >> tai chi. tie chi. >> take your energy and throw back at you. >> kung fu, buddhism, the peace the most powerful weapon on the planet. >> i didn't grow up with this anti-asian sentiment. it made no sense to me. and there is a lot of cowardly people out there, and they think that people from the asian diaspora are easy target. once you kick somebody's grandmother or you spit on a woman holding a baby or you use a weapon against an elderly person, you no longer have the right to call yourself a man, period. >> i feel like i'm the demographic that people think it's easy to be a victim, you know. asian women, i might be like quiet or subdued. and i think every time you keep

quiet, you carry that energy with you, that burden. >> for sure, for sure. >> and then it just explodes somewhere else. it's something that kung fu also taught me, you have to let it out. you to let it go. >> i call it racism hot potato. people throw the racism to you, and often we're try thoelgd on to it. >> pow. >> no, no, no, that's yours, that's yours. >> this belongs to you. >> hot potato! racist hot potato! >> and to keep my cool during this game of racism hot potato, shifu is going to show me some meditation. good. use your body like a whip. just right here, go. >> mine does make that noise that you're making. >> stop kicking. nice. >> thank you. that seems disrespectful. up. >> for the love of jesus and buddha.

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oh, wow. you all have literally painted the picture. this is the picture of asian and black solidarity, and it is not two people from 2022. it is two people from the early '60s. this is akimi, an activist carrying on the legacy of her legendary grandmother. >> i'm a big believer in the t-shirt education. >> oh, i have that up in my house. >> you can't talk about asian american activism without talking about yuri. after surviving internment during world war ii, she became a civil rights icon who understood the power of building bridges between all communities in order to stand up to white supremacy. >> she was involved in so much. initially, she got involved with the civil rights movement.

you know, she always says harlem was on fire in the '60s and it was very exciting. >> no man can speak is for negroes who tells negroes to turn the other cheek. there is no negro in his right mind today who is going to turn the other cheek. >> yuri met malcolm in 1963, which changed everything. as she would say, her political awakening. she joked later, you know, that the first thing she did when she saw him is she runs up to him and shakes his hand and says i want to thank you for what you're doing for your people. he said what am i doing for my people? she said you're giving hope and direction, you know. but i disagree with your stance on integration. she said he smiled a really wide grin and he took out his business card and said make an appointment with my secretary. come and talk to me about it. and so they started talking. and over time and after his death, she became a radical

black nationalist. she started working for the organization african american unity. she was supporting puerto rican independence. she was also very involved with the asian american movement at that time. very much following the lead of black people, right, and watching what black people were doing. >> even as someone who grew up reading a lot about malcolm x, her name came up, but i didn't understand the importance of their relationship until years later. it is such a model of sort of this black asian alliance building that keep people trying to figure out how do we do this. >> i think what yuri would say more than anything what she learned from malcolm is how important it is to know your history and other people's history. that's how you learn about where your history intersects, where it connects, where it overlaps. i think it's understanding the near east trajectory in general. she spent -- dedicated her life fighting for the rights of political prisoners. i think it's very connected to her own experience of having been interned, right, unlawfully. everyone had a story, right, and

a background and a perspective, and everyone is a human being. i think if we can begin with that, like really, we would connect more, right. >> yeah. >> and respect each other more. >> i want to skip ahead a little bit to the thing that inspired this episode is the fact that in 2020, first of all we have -- i want to be clear, racial reckoning that america goes through. but you see the protests in the streets that are multiracial protests. and then through covid and through our president and through the gop start to weaponize covid against asian communities. there is all this racist rhetoric first. and then there starts to be these sort of hate crimes that have been reported. and i personally know asian people immediately who are sort of finding their voices in ways they hadn't before. and sometimes stumbling. but then also seeing members of the black community being oh, you want us to care about that, but you don't care about this? i sort of forgot for a second

that that asian-black tension can exist in such a toxic way. are there ways in which the media has perpetuated that asian-black divide that you've seen in the current era, the post 2020 era? >> absolutely. there is a period where i don't even remember last year where i was being inundated on social media and text, family, everybody i know sending videos of asian people being attacked by black people. so you had to think about that. why. why does the media keep showing us black people attacking asians. >> police releasing new details. >> not just new details, but also a picture. >> studies show that the majority of hate crimes are actually by white people. but you know how some people don't like facts, they were excited to have a reason to further divide us, and many of us bought the lie. >> it's because we want to continue to criminalize blackness, right, and show people committing crime and being violent and being dangerous. and asians as innocent victims. it just feeds the stereotypes, all the stereotype.

and this whole conversation about sort of black-asian tensions, it's also an opportunity to talk about the history and show people the history. something my grandmother talked a lot about throughout her life was asian americans and how much more they should understand, you know, where they are in this american system, right. this is the opportunity for asian americans to understand the bigger picture, right. the history and institutionalized racism, why you need to be in solidarity, how it benefits us. all these asian american celebrities and influencers and journalists taking a stand and making a statement. they're outraged about anti-asian racism. i think okay, great. now you can be outraged about racism of all kinds. and as fervently you're fighting for an anti-asian hate act, you can fight for the anti-lynching act. if you're outraged about racism, you should be outraged about racism all the time. >> yeah.

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>> meet chinatown's ps-126 podcasters, the dragon kids. like all 10-year-olds, they got a lot to say. >> do you know it's the first asian super hero in marvel? >> yeah, it was awesome to see a chinese super hero. >> ivan plays the piano. benz likes to play video games. sharon is more of a youtube person. and eden, he collects basketball and nfts. don't spend too much of those. >> why did you come today? >> because we're filming with you. >> oh, thank you. thank you. you're fichling with me. give me some of your favorite topics to talk about on podcasts. >> the first movie, the chinese marvel immediate, shang-chi and the legend of the ten rings. >> oh, have you all seen that movie? >> yes. >> how was it? >> it was really good. >> most superheros are like american. and shang-chi is the first asian

to represent us asian people, the asian class of super heroes. >> it feels like we're actually in the movie. >> one of my favorite movies is one called "the black panther" which it sort of did for me what shang-chi did for you all. i saw a super hero that represented me. i see the black panther and shang-chi as sort of being friends with each other. representation is complicated and ever evolving. while you could technically say that shang-chi and the black panther are both some form of representation when they both debuted in marvel comics, they were both created by white folks who didn't seem to have a lot of interest in authenticity, and sometimes just came off as racist. since then, these characters have both been taken over by asian american and black creators, creators who were able to imbue these characters with authenticity that rings true to the audiences they are portraying. there's been stories how some

people have been mad at asian people about covid. have you heard of any of this? >> yeah, asian hate. like when covid started, it started usually harm asian people because they think they started it, even though they actually didn't. >> how does it make you all feel when you hear these stories? >> american people don't understand how it feels, because they never been through it. >> i heard about something like there was an old person that was asian. like some people were like hitting her. it makes me feel like i'm also going to be attacked because of it. >> oh, no. i'm sorry. >> it feels like if that happens, we're going to feel scared. >> of course. so what can we do? how can we change this? i don't want asian people to be scared to walk around. >> we can't stand up for ourselves. >> but sometimes standing up for yourself makes the situation worse. >> does it help? what if i stand up with you all? does that help? >> yeah.

>> yeah. >> what if me and my friends stand up with you all? it's just that simple. while it's important for us to focus on our own communities, it also really helps if we all stand up for each other. >> you hear a lot about people saying they want to be allies. >> right. >> how do you do this work? you just have to be in community with people. learn your history, you know. invest in learning about someone else's history. just connecting to people as humans is the first step. >> i would love to see a world where there is so much diversity of storytelling that represent me and people i care about. we don't have to be ashamed around the things that actually are who we are. it's all about giving us the room to breathe and letting us be the great mass that we are. >> it never feels enough because it's not. and if we're doing the right thing with the most thoughtful

and inclusive way we cannot apologize for missing people off. moving forward is the only option. >> i'm cautiously optimistic. >> that's big for you. >> that's big for me, asterisk pending results of climate change. >> okay, yes. there we go. that's the guy, though. [ laughter ] good evening. i'm anderson cooper. it's been two and a half months since a gunman murdered 19 children and two teachers in robb elementary school and wounded many others. the families of the dead and survivors of the massacre are still waiting for answers about what really happened in uvalde. it took dps, the texas department of public safety, which is responsible for statewide law enforcement nearly a month after the shootings to finally release a detailed timeline of the attack and the police response. and in mid-july, the texas house investigative committee released their preliminary report revealing a number of law enforcement failures.